Britain's BRAND NEW High Speed Train - The Avanti West Coast Class 805 "Evero"!

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OM the Rails

OM the Rails

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Up today I'll be taking you inside Avanti West Coast's brand new "Evero" train on its very first day in passenger service - this new Hitachi bi-mode train will be replacing Avanti's diesel Super Voyagers in the coming months and I was fortunate enough to have the timings work to allow myself to ride the very first train. So are these trains an improvement? Find out in this video!
Journey details:
Date of travel - 02 June 2024 (inaugural ride)
Operator - Avanti West Coast
Class of travel - First
Origin - Crewe (originally Chester)
Destination - London Euston
Price - £84/€98.64/$107.02
(Advance first single)
Duration - 2 hours
Distance - 169 miles
Thanks for watching and I hope you enjoyed the video!
Music from EpidemicSound and is used under license.
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@wolvolad25
@wolvolad25 3 ай бұрын
I dont understand how anyone looked at that interior and thought mmmmm yes this is a premium experience
@Morning404
@Morning404 3 ай бұрын
Corporate greed.
@thegrowl2210
@thegrowl2210 3 ай бұрын
The GWR first class in the Mk3s looked pretty good. Now we have… this.
@sparkyUK
@sparkyUK 3 ай бұрын
I was just thinking this. Very boring. LNER's first class looks much nicer.
@alexpeak16
@alexpeak16 3 ай бұрын
@@sparkyUK Only on their 225s. The Azumas are hopeless in both classes.
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 3 ай бұрын
​@@Morning404 Incompetence. These trains cost a fortune. The entire concept is flawed.
@StephenSmith-ge1qf
@StephenSmith-ge1qf 3 ай бұрын
I've booked an Avanti trip from Euston to Liverpool in July. It's class,( because I like 1st. class train travel). I was shocked by the fare - £118. I live in Italy, where for far less I can get a premium class return from Milan to Rome and home again, on a Freccia at 300km. per hour .
@racelox
@racelox 3 ай бұрын
I've booked an Avanti in June from Manchester to Euston and it's cost £45. Try split tickets?
@slavvy.mp4884
@slavvy.mp4884 3 ай бұрын
Pffft, just wait till you pay for a Liverpool to Euston return ticket. even with a railcard and off peak ticket, it cost me 144 gbp 2nd class. I despise the railway operators in this nation.
@racelox
@racelox 3 ай бұрын
@@slavvy.mp4884 Lime Street to Euston, leaving tomorrow morning (Saturday) and returning later in the day. £38...
@azza5332
@azza5332 3 ай бұрын
Right? £84 quid for a 2 hour journey in not even the most luxourious first class is a rip off! The only other country where first class is overpriced is Switzerland, but everything is expensive there!
@RECHARGED77
@RECHARGED77 Ай бұрын
thats england for ya
@grahamandrew907
@grahamandrew907 3 ай бұрын
Nothing beats mark 1 coaching stock, pulled by a class 52, happy days!!!!
@pitbing
@pitbing 3 ай бұрын
If you really want bog standard accommodation, WCR are still operating MK1 coaching stock.
@AymanTravelTransport
@AymanTravelTransport 3 ай бұрын
That was quick! Incidentally, I've noticed XC have already started operating some of the ex-Avanti Voyagers, as one of them was working Edinburgh-Plymouth according to RTT.
@_ajf
@_ajf 3 ай бұрын
FYI for the wireless chargers, in the clip you showed at least, you just missed the pad. The coil in the phone is in the middle not the bottom. Thanks for the coverage of the new trains!
@damiendye6623
@damiendye6623 3 ай бұрын
Should matter it's meant to be wireless, as such its a point less wasteful tech
@_ajf
@_ajf 3 ай бұрын
​@@damiendye6623 I mean I agree it's inefficient and slow, but I'm not sure it's pointless
@joemercedeschannel196
@joemercedeschannel196 3 ай бұрын
They along with Lumo improved the quality and decreased the hate on the modern IET's which had very poor seating. Great video mate.
@MattJames2211
@MattJames2211 3 ай бұрын
I still find the refurbished avanti seats not very comfortable
@joemercedeschannel196
@joemercedeschannel196 3 ай бұрын
@@MattJames2211 But they're better than the GWR and LNER (Azuma) seats. And the GWR and LNER (Azuma) units have poor ride quality at top speed. I haven't tried out the Avanti IET's yet but I will do sometime and see if they have poor ride quality or not.
@simonsv9449
@simonsv9449 3 ай бұрын
And EMR promised great seating on their 810 ”Aurora”. We’ll see if they kept their promise.
@cameronallan5624
@cameronallan5624 3 ай бұрын
Agreed they are better. But we shouldn’t be aiming for minimal viable seating comfort. We should be encouraging people onto trains with comfy seats. Europe doesn’t seem to have this problem. Why does the UK always go for such hard seats on its new trains. The only exception to this is Lumos trains which despite having the same seat shape have much more padding and are much more comfortable. Why can’t everyone just copy Lumo?
@CityWhisperer
@CityWhisperer 3 ай бұрын
Seating is always selected by the operators and not the manufacturers, so congrats to them and shame on the rest.
@ejc7129
@ejc7129 3 ай бұрын
Excellent appraisal of yet another Hitachi AT300 variant 🙂👍🏽 The GWR ones on my region are truly awful and after nearly 7 years in service for the GWR 800/0’s, most of the interiors are now looking worn with badly rattling plastic panelling, stained carpets and some seat bases (even in 1st class) sunk so far, you can feel the metal bar underneath 🫣 The one good thing about these 805’s is that they were not DFT specified like GWR/LNER, so there is better seating, better lighting and they seem to be fitted out better inside 🤔 Lets see what they are like after a few years in service and lets hope they are not in a sorry state, like most of the GWR AT300’s 🫣
@Anonymoususer_8823
@Anonymoususer_8823 3 ай бұрын
I like what Avanti West Coast have named their new trains “Evero”. Be looking forward to seeing the Class 807 electric IET coming into service in the next few months.
@kitspackman3994
@kitspackman3994 3 ай бұрын
If they get dispensation to run the 805s at 125 on the Trent Valley passengers will discover exactly why I spent the 1970s getting tilt systems to work, as their coffee slides sideways off the tables! It's about 'passenger comfort' and no amount of extra acceleration out of the curves will cancel out the lateral acceleration during the curves.
@ce1834
@ce1834 3 ай бұрын
Quite a step up from the Voyagers, even without tilt imo. Great sets! Going to be interesting to see if they'll be allowed to run at 125mph at some point in these sections
@123penfold
@123penfold 3 ай бұрын
The announcements make the guard and buffet staff sound like they are down at London Euston . Hope they sort that out .
@NorthernFail852
@NorthernFail852 3 ай бұрын
So I recently went on the 805 to London and boy was it a nightmare, the train I was meant to get had been cancelled at Crewe after coming fresh out of the depot, and by the time I made it to Chester from Runcorn East, I had no time to make a connecting service down to Crewe, luckily though a 58 minute late 805 was nearly at Chester and would give me about 15 minutes connection time, or so I thought, the train ended up getting to the station 67 minutes late and had to join another 805 whilst sat at the platform, this made the train so late I missed the connection at Crewe and had to end up getting a pendolino down to the capital, to say the least u was not happy On the otherhand after a lovely day in London I timed it just right to get an 805 back to Chester, this only being 10 minutes late on Arriva at Chester due to speed restrictions on the 805’s I give the whole experience an 8/10, would’ve been 10/10 if they were able to reach full line speed, and the morning run I’d give a 2/10 due to how late the trains were
@michaelbirch8666
@michaelbirch8666 3 ай бұрын
Not really bothered what equipment Avanti uses; I just need a TOC that operates a regular, reliable service with next-to-no cancellations. Come back Virgin; all is forgiven.
@maly2ts408
@maly2ts408 3 ай бұрын
Yes I agree virgin did ok , bring him back
@brian402
@brian402 3 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upfront honest good review here!, always awesome watching your videos., last time i was in the UK & that was like..... i travelled around on British Rail Intercity125
@745ga
@745ga 3 ай бұрын
Nice Job you reached 20k subscribers, I thought you were someone else, then I recognized your nice thumbnail design style, really like it. Good Job your videos
@CarlSmith-bs4qx
@CarlSmith-bs4qx 3 ай бұрын
Why order 5 coaches, a single 9\10 coach version would make more sense with reference to capacity planning
@Jstransporthub
@Jstransporthub 3 ай бұрын
Ik assuming that these Evero/ class 805s run as five cars because they will take over the voyager route to Maidenhead. 807s will be 7-9-11 cars I do not remember..
@mikefish8226
@mikefish8226 3 ай бұрын
The trains they replace are usually 5s or 2x5s.
@damianc.0.681
@damianc.0.681 3 ай бұрын
@@Jstransporthubto Maidenhead??? What r u on?
@thomasjones5566
@thomasjones5566 3 ай бұрын
To begin with they will run in 5 or 10 car formations, 6 805s will be in service first while 6 221s temporarily remain in use. 14 805 services will run per day and 18 221 services will run per day
@hydrogenvshelium6851
@hydrogenvshelium6851 3 ай бұрын
*Holyhead via North Wales Coast Line and Wrexham General, all via Chester
@redgoon698
@redgoon698 3 ай бұрын
I still think the HSTs or 91s are superior. Good vid though. 😁
@shihanthetrainspotter
@shihanthetrainspotter 3 ай бұрын
These Brad new Avanti trains are amazing I can’t wait to ride one I hope to also do a trip report on it
@rantingyoof6960
@rantingyoof6960 3 ай бұрын
So these HSTs are currently limited to the Class 350's top speed? That's a shame.
@realkasumi5443
@realkasumi5443 3 ай бұрын
A new MU speed profile is being introduced to allow non-tilt stock to reach 115/120 with some sections of 125. However, this speed profile hasn't been comissioned yet, so trains are currently running to PS speeds (max 110), with the exception of the Stour Line which has MU limits already.
@downonthestour
@downonthestour 3 ай бұрын
Great Video as per OM!
@MylesHSG
@MylesHSG 3 ай бұрын
Ok, let me get this straight. Pendos and Super Voyagers tilt to allow 125mph running on the WCML, however these new trains cant tilt and therefore will be limited to 110mph on a lot of sections...unless the WCML has had some sort of massive stealth upgrade in the last few years that I have missed.
@rthoc71
@rthoc71 3 ай бұрын
It was cheaper for Avanti order non tilt trains, plus any Tilt order trains would taken far longer to build as no production line platform anymore for tilting pendolinos have redesign new fleet. Where as Hitachi fleet are tried n tested later generations of IEP only downside can't run at 125mph everywhere no tilt. Hitachi fleet production line still rolling so far easier to add new trains to the current build than start from scratch something totally new
@MylesHSG
@MylesHSG 3 ай бұрын
@@rthoc71 Don't get me wrong the Voyagers needed to be replaced, and god it was terrible when they ran to Glasgow completely under the wires. Just worry about the impact on not just journey times, but pathing, no doubt these will spend the vast majority of their time on the fast lines, potentially holding up Pendos if they start to fall behind the WTT.
@rthoc71
@rthoc71 3 ай бұрын
@@MylesHSG having ridden few times on tilt voyagers they weren't best thing switching between tilt mode to non tilt little uncomfortable at times, tilt system on pendolinos more smoother transitions. Acceleration is quick on 807 bit similar to issues we had on ECML when Mk4 91 full fleet ran main service Edinburgh to London at time hired 2 class 90's run with mk4 used on Leeds runs with 110mph it worked but only because 90 was superior in acceleration than 91 at the time. So getting back to WCML if 110mph Avanti Evro good accelerating only way work is restrict where they operate ie not North of Lancaster, where track speeds greater on straights be not lot diffence when hits tilting sections where anything slower will impact 390 schedules
@kieranstravels
@kieranstravels 3 ай бұрын
They look decent! Great video OM.
@petermc7098
@petermc7098 2 ай бұрын
Hi There, a great and insightful Video on some of the new Avanti West Coast fleet and it definitely looks like a welcome replacement to the voyagers, feels a lot more fresh etc. Thank you for sharing your thoughts it's greatly appreciated. Cheers Peter :)
@itsthatsebguy93
@itsthatsebguy93 3 ай бұрын
If it was up to me this line would still be using locos and mark 2 coaches.
@Pbuntu
@Pbuntu 3 ай бұрын
Maybe Mk 3 or 4 But I Get You.
@Pbuntu
@Pbuntu 3 ай бұрын
And Class 91 Or 86. With DVT
@GreatEasternMainlineSpots
@GreatEasternMainlineSpots 3 ай бұрын
Your extremely delusional
@whatdoyoumeanbro4964
@whatdoyoumeanbro4964 3 ай бұрын
it's 2024 not 1998
@Pbuntu
@Pbuntu 3 ай бұрын
@@whatdoyoumeanbro4964 sure but in an alternate universe when privatization never happened
@FromtheWindowSeat
@FromtheWindowSeat 3 ай бұрын
Good review. Keen to try this train next time I visit the UK.
@IScreamer
@IScreamer Ай бұрын
Nice new trains for sure. 1st class passengers having to pick up their meal from the café is not so nice. Like you, I just love the Avanti livery - very slick indeed!
@acfbrown1
@acfbrown1 3 ай бұрын
Looks interesting I travelled on a 9 coach Avanti 390 earlier today between Haymarket and Preston.
@Ztbmrc1
@Ztbmrc1 Ай бұрын
Nice train. Hope I will be able to travel on it one day on my next train trip to the UK. That echoing on the pa system was quite funny. It seems at the end they got rid of it, but that were automatic announcements no live spoken pa's.
@trianandacaesaryandasril786
@trianandacaesaryandasril786 3 ай бұрын
0:06 i like your vlog. You should try riding Whoosh in indonesia, the first high speed train in southeast asia with a speed of 350/KMH. There are still many more trains in indonesia that you can make your youtube video. greetings from indonesia, Keep spirit and keep healty😊
@KirkChester
@KirkChester 3 ай бұрын
Will they provide hot food/seat catering in First Class in the future, like they do on the Voyagers and Pendolino's?
@BensPlanesTrainsProductions
@BensPlanesTrainsProductions 3 ай бұрын
Sounds like the trains have gone backwards compared to the 221 Voyagers, limited to 110mph, wasn't the 221's already fitted the titling equipemnt prior to entering service on the first day?
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 3 ай бұрын
There is work underway to raise the speeds for these trains. It should have been completed by now but it’s been delayed
@tonys1636
@tonys1636 3 ай бұрын
Although modern EMU's are designed to be more aerodynamic but at the expense of through connectivity for passengers when two or three units connected. Being close to the barrier at destination means boarding the right unit, not always possible with a reserved seat.
@journeysofjames1116
@journeysofjames1116 3 ай бұрын
It just makes me question why they couldn’t put these type of seats in the previous 80x trains from the very beginning. Great video
@chrisnightingale6917
@chrisnightingale6917 3 ай бұрын
Hopefully there'll be a mid-life refurb due at some point...!
@audigex
@audigex 3 ай бұрын
There was a period of a few years where a weird quirk of overlapping UK and EU regulations made it VERY difficult to design fire-regulation-compliant comfortable seats for the UK
@MrJimheeren
@MrJimheeren 3 ай бұрын
@@audigexoh really. Interesting. But to be honest I like a little stiff seat, nicer for my back. So all these people who are complaining about it, know that lots of people actually like it
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 3 ай бұрын
Sims Metals of Newport would make a good job of them.
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 3 ай бұрын
​@@MrJimheeren Firm seats are fine if the profile is correct but they almost never are, even though the information has been available since the 1950s. They also mean that the ride quality must be good, but it is not.
@stephenharper9961
@stephenharper9961 3 ай бұрын
The first booked service ended up being the 10.36 from crewe to holyhead with 805001/805004 but was meant to be that chester to euston but it was restarted at crewe
@Fitlad75
@Fitlad75 3 ай бұрын
never understand in this country why they don't just reduce the prices to fill the seats, it's a win for everyone
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 3 ай бұрын
I live along the line & can't understand how YT content creators always manage to find quiet trains. I always find it hard to find a seat.
@josephinebennington7247
@josephinebennington7247 2 ай бұрын
To get a reduction in ticket prices, what part(s) of the whole system would you reduce? Wages (whose?), safety (yours?), frequency (more or fewer trains?). Come on, be part of the solution, not part of the problem.
@TheRip72
@TheRip72 2 ай бұрын
@@josephinebennington7247 It depends which ticket prices. The structure is very weird. On longer journeys, advance tickets can be pretty cheap. Standard fares are often huge & ridiculous. A few years back, I did a 1 hour journey on a Virgin service & the cheapest option was a first class ticket. Standard class was not sold out, it was simply more expensive. How crazy was that?
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 15 күн бұрын
Exactly!
@Alex-cw3rz
@Alex-cw3rz 15 күн бұрын
​​​​​@@josephinebennington7247 there were about 270 empty seats on this train, if they cut that 1st class ticket from £84 to 48 and all that you'd need is 3 people (which let's be honest at that price it would more likely be at least half full) to make more money than they are now. This is such a basic concept which seems lost on the modern world. They could have charged £10 a seat which would garentueed be a full train and made more money than they did on this journey with these ridiculous prices.
@thomasfy4
@thomasfy4 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I loved the onboard shop on the WCML - after about 10 mins, I needed a wine
@91Durktheturk
@91Durktheturk 3 ай бұрын
Its so 'high speed' that a diagram from Euston to Liverpool takes 2h20 mins instead of 2h10 mins on the 395s
@jay-xo9dx
@jay-xo9dx 3 ай бұрын
That’s also because the service will stop at more stations. I’m sure you mean 390s
@91Durktheturk
@91Durktheturk 3 ай бұрын
@@jay-xo9dx Well spotted, 390s indeed. I don't believe it's because of that, but simply because they are limited to 110mph, which on such a distance does make a difference.
@jay-xo9dx
@jay-xo9dx 3 ай бұрын
@@91Durktheturkthe same timings can be achieved at 110. Look at the stopping pattern planned for these extra service to Liverpool and you’ll see they’re booked to stop at more stations
@coastermad13
@coastermad13 3 ай бұрын
I remember being on a class 125 and one power car failed and we ran at like 35 mph getting later and later and later. Another time, idiots stole the overhead and signal cable between Newcastle and Edinburgh. Whilst a lone train sat in the station, packed, waiting thankfully i was with a train manager so i got live updates of where the driver and crew were for that lone train and caught a bus instead and got into Edinburgh before it even left Newcastle. Fun times
@ispi_video_photo
@ispi_video_photo 3 ай бұрын
Being Avanti, how long before it's branded "Nevero"?
@Keikdv
@Keikdv 3 ай бұрын
Someone did a video on rinding 805 009 on 2nd of June in first class Euston to Crewe and had no issue with the sound from the speakers...
@Dan-cd6hm
@Dan-cd6hm 3 ай бұрын
Lovely overview. Wish the bike storage on the Hitachi's wasn't so terrible!
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 3 ай бұрын
There is a new ‘MU’ line speed profile that is yet to be commissioned, under which the new trains will be permitted to run at speeds between 110 and 125 mph for much of the route
@brickleyyard4966
@brickleyyard4966 3 ай бұрын
I also think if the lner and gwr iet could refit there iets at the first re fit then the iets could be seen as a some what decent trains
@henrybn14ar
@henrybn14ar 3 ай бұрын
Refurbishment will not cure the bad ride quality, which is almost certainly smashing up the track at the same time. 26 metre vehicles with 17 metre bogie centres and 80 cm wheels is asking for trouble, as is the 1 metre gap between vehicles. A visit to Sims of Newport would be needed to fix these trains.
@tenny_tenten
@tenny_tenten 3 ай бұрын
​@@henrybn14arlol scrappers torch and you have no services - "You'll be going nowhere" - Paul Tyreman
@threesixnine369six
@threesixnine369six 3 ай бұрын
I know flush surface doors are more expensive and technically complex but they just look better on a fast train. Much sleeker.
@darksars3622
@darksars3622 3 ай бұрын
Ok, it was not as bad a I first thought, though it can't tilt and the reliability could be a problem, OH and build quality, that is a serious concern
@bikerguychris33
@bikerguychris33 3 ай бұрын
Great video pal 😁, Judging by what I've seen in your video, I'd say in one way they're a step forwards from the voyager and in another way they're a Step backwards, The lack of tilt and reduced power sockets are a Step Backwards, but everything else is a step forward. You'd think Hitachi of all companies would have built all their trains to tilt wouldn't you? Especially since the Japanese are well known for their cutting edge and reliable technology.
@3506Dodge
@3506Dodge 3 ай бұрын
I didn't know Chester was in Wales.
@jacobporrett
@jacobporrett 3 ай бұрын
They look good. Will have to try one at some point.
@patrickwhite3127
@patrickwhite3127 3 ай бұрын
Has Crewe moved nearer to Liverpool?
@malins12345
@malins12345 Ай бұрын
Sorry couldn't see it in the comments, what was the name of the speedometer app you used? It seemed clever that it told you the line you were on!
@Dinoteddi
@Dinoteddi 3 ай бұрын
I wonder what the time difference between these and voyagers are, as the 805s have far better acceleration than the voyagers iirc, which should make up for the 110MPH speeds on the WCML instead of the 125 seen on Voyagers
@91Durktheturk
@91Durktheturk 3 ай бұрын
For Liverpool diagrams they will take 10 mins longer. But perhaps on some avanti routes with many intermediate stops, their acceleration might mean diagram times stay the same. Not sure though.
@andrewreynolds4949
@andrewreynolds4949 3 ай бұрын
I believe it will be 5 minutes slower than the 390 once the new line speed profile is commissioned, something like 8-10 minutes slower currently
@kermito3659
@kermito3659 3 ай бұрын
They used to use class 390's through to Holyhead dragged from crewe by a class 57
@tiago58
@tiago58 Ай бұрын
Quite a good looking train! Strictly speaking, this would be a MST (medium speed train), capable of attaining max operational speed of 250 km/h . HSTs (high speed trains) are capable of attaining max operational speeds of 350 km/h (China's Fuxing, France's TGV, etc.) .
@Spacebug111
@Spacebug111 3 ай бұрын
Next time i go to london ill try to get one of these new trains
@danielnesbitt9565
@danielnesbitt9565 2 ай бұрын
With better seats the Class 800/801/802s could be perfectly decent trains. Sadly the convoluted contract arrangements for the 800/801s likely mean we are stuck with seats until the contract ends, which I bet results in them going straight to the scrapyard as I doubt GBR would be able to get a good deal on a buyout/leasing deal with Agility Trains.
@robertp.wainman4094
@robertp.wainman4094 3 ай бұрын
Like most trains in the UK - it's not BIG enough!!!
@leonidmironov2546
@leonidmironov2546 3 ай бұрын
Great Video! thank you! did they mention anything on the timeline for Pendolino updates after teh current refresh? in the 2030s?
@MartinDonkin
@MartinDonkin 20 күн бұрын
Nice trains, but I see there is no fixing the cycle provision on the 80X trains. I just went from London to Manchester on one of the Voyagers, and it was so much easier to get a bike on those older trains.
@s125ish
@s125ish 3 ай бұрын
The seats in first class seem low down compared to the pendolinos and standard section.
@michaeljohndennis2231
@michaeljohndennis2231 3 ай бұрын
Avanti need to take over and massively overhaul the current SailRail product offering, with direct services from Manchester Victoria to Holyhead, timed to meet ferry check-in times to and ferry arrivals from Dublin - in fact, there should be a dedicated SailRail service starting at Hull, via Leeds, Manchester Victoria and onto Holyhead
@foobar83
@foobar83 2 ай бұрын
wow first class looks dire vs pendolino I wonder what weekday catering will be like
@jessicamorgan3073
@jessicamorgan3073 3 ай бұрын
Good video, but why wasn't the echo identified/corrected earlier?
@danielmkandrews
@danielmkandrews 17 күн бұрын
Hi, what music did you use at 5:20? Thanks
@timbounds7190
@timbounds7190 3 ай бұрын
Normal Bizarre UK rail journey - track faults / cancelled trains and a seemingly entirely pointless diversion through Northampton! At least the seats and windows line up much better than most modern UK trains.
@stellwyn
@stellwyn 3 ай бұрын
I was supposed to take this train home from Chester to London... of course it was cancelled! (not because of the track fault, this was later in the day) No new train experience for me. This happens so often with Avanti it's almost a disappointment when I don't get any delay repay lol
@sidney001
@sidney001 15 күн бұрын
Have they toned down the lighting?
@_RandomPea
@_RandomPea 3 ай бұрын
Wonder if the xcountry trains through the entire heart of the country will ever get increased coaches to handle the demand or preferably something new entirely to travel on. Maybe where you can find your seat not being sat in when you get there...maybe one day 😂🎉
@SWTROfficial
@SWTROfficial 3 ай бұрын
9:59 285 miles from Glasgow although avanti don’t run to Glasgow with stopping Lichfield T.V trains anymore
@Charlizzie
@Charlizzie 3 ай бұрын
Never thought Midland London handle just changed overnight.
@Pilloledisaggezza_italy
@Pilloledisaggezza_italy Ай бұрын
Brit here living italy, I get uptight thinking that the UK cannot get it's act together on real high-speed trains >=250 km/h. Another thing is the pricing, absolute cr@p...way too dear. The recent governments really have lost the plot.
@juliemarriott7395
@juliemarriott7395 3 ай бұрын
Do you know if, on the wheelchair accessible carriages, is the ramp integral to the train, or do you still need the old style ramps to board?
@mudchute4dlr
@mudchute4dlr 3 ай бұрын
need the old style ramp to board
@Jnthnpg
@Jnthnpg 3 ай бұрын
I slightly disagree with “all British trains” for catering in FC; I think LNER do a good service for FC, pretty good hot food and free drinks.
@LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy
@LBG252_TheEastLondonBusGuy Ай бұрын
The Class 805 Has Great Features, It Is Better Than The Diesel Class 221 Units.
@ace-paidinfull5240
@ace-paidinfull5240 3 ай бұрын
The avanti livery is ok, but im sorry with regards to other iets, hull trains has to have first place, second is probably lumo, then transpenine, then emr, then avanti, then lner and then gwr. I didnt miss any did i?
@Dreamweaver787
@Dreamweaver787 3 ай бұрын
Giving them pointless names to make them sound fast and punctual, when in fact it will be the opposite of this. The UK rail infrastructure is a joke and trains make in the far East when we once had a world beating railway manufacturing industry sums this country up at the moment.
@craighobbs3708
@craighobbs3708 3 ай бұрын
You hit the nail on the head in your comments, Northampton, with such a large population, is badly served by rail.
@michaelweinberg4073
@michaelweinberg4073 3 ай бұрын
In contrast I think the Avanti livery is awful. Great blocks of colourv in no particular pattern with blobs of orange here and there. Trains look far more elegant with stripes along the length rather than perpendiculer. Cf Azumas, Rail jets, Swiss inter-cities and German ICE's.
@roybabbs9766
@roybabbs9766 25 күн бұрын
Evero? No Everard - meaning the seats. A real pain !
@soundseeker63
@soundseeker63 3 ай бұрын
Well it's not exactly awe inspiring. But that interior looks MUCH nicer than the rather horrid LNER ones with the ironing board seats and everything in garish bright red. Glad to see some of the complaints about the earlier IETs have been listened to and acted upon. Is the refinement any better than 800/801s? They have a rough ride and are rather noisy at times. Perhaps the 805 has better suspension and a bit more soundproofing? Voyagers could be a bit noisy but always had a decent ride from what I recall. I suppose it's perhaps and improvement over a 220/221 but still nothing to rivals a refusbished HST or a MK4 set or even Pendolino! Ok, but nothing terribly special.
@Chico838
@Chico838 3 ай бұрын
I saw one of these in northallerton a few days ago
@buffalo6524
@buffalo6524 3 ай бұрын
Anyone know what's happening with all those renatus 321s at 16:24 ?
@jameskenny4455
@jameskenny4455 Ай бұрын
Lack of tilt is a big no no in passenger experience.
@ianwalker2250
@ianwalker2250 3 ай бұрын
This white elephant started service betwen Holyhead and London Euston on 2nd June. I travelled on one on 3rd June - its buffet was broken and couldn't serve hot drinks......the seat I sat in was uncomfortable for anything bar a short journey. frankly I am glad I won't be using them often. they're crap.
@GraySkull289
@GraySkull289 3 ай бұрын
Virgin shouldn't have lost the contract. And Avanti should have their contract pulled.
@neilburns8869
@neilburns8869 3 ай бұрын
At first glance I am not really that impressed with the Evero. In fact it doesn't really look too different from the Trans Penine Express Novo 1 or 2, inside or out. The train and the train company who run it, have no real soul.
@imsbvs
@imsbvs 3 ай бұрын
I usually use these Hitachi trains at 140mph along HS1. Just shows what couls be acheived if there was the political will.
@martinsaviationlife2690
@martinsaviationlife2690 3 ай бұрын
I have to ask, can you hear the difference between them changing between deisel and electric?
@davidaarthur
@davidaarthur 3 ай бұрын
Could do without the brand name, but the trains look nice!
@MPDTransport
@MPDTransport 3 ай бұрын
Amazing Video
@kevinbeasley946
@kevinbeasley946 Ай бұрын
Ohh wow another slow train, I saw the Maglev line recently in Japan that’s being built at present ok it won’t fully open until 2034. But in tests the train has reached 603 KMH. (375 MPH) I think they are restricting the speed when it opens to a slow 505 KMH (313 MPH) ,
@jermainec2462
@jermainec2462 3 ай бұрын
only 170 miles ? uk is smaller than i thought...
@tomhague1
@tomhague1 3 ай бұрын
Is this train now in full service now
@AlvaroALorite
@AlvaroALorite Ай бұрын
I don't wanna by "that guy" but 177 kmh is not a high-speed train by any standard. In the rest of Europe and Asia, is its generally established that a train must be operated at least at 250 kmh to be considered high speed. Calling 177kmh "high speed" is very generous.
@wolvolad25
@wolvolad25 3 ай бұрын
That’s got to be the most awful first class cabin I’ve ever seen, it’s so clinical and bland, no luxury at all
@philhunter9158
@philhunter9158 3 ай бұрын
Let's hope that it's better than the brand new aircraft carrier's!!!
@Garylpool1
@Garylpool1 3 ай бұрын
Still strange seeing British trains without yellow fronts
@nottinghillad
@nottinghillad 3 ай бұрын
universally, train passenger coaches (ie, the interior) have become the standard by which all train journeys are tedious, even if they are swifter than the road. 1st class doesn't exist except in name.
@joyjeetpaul2218
@joyjeetpaul2218 3 ай бұрын
Bah . Besh valo
@paulhill3622
@paulhill3622 3 ай бұрын
I think it's a 'National Public Transport Scandal', ie: the Quality of Comfort we are literally 'Stuff' by the train company's, for Not 'Stuffing' ie: Padding comfort on new stock is not much better than 'Stevenson Rocket' 😮😢
@graemebowyer4901
@graemebowyer4901 Ай бұрын
An interesting video. I use GWR trains several times a year and fine the latest rolling stock to be half decent, with the exception of the seats. They can only be described as dreadfull, both 1st & Standard class. Whoever decided they were fit for purpose should be fired.
@briansmith9926
@briansmith9926 Ай бұрын
Agreed. They are awful.
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