Training VS expensive guns (Ft TheFatElectrician)

[@freedmansjournal]

The gap betwwen the guns is not big enough, PewView should have had a Hi Point.

[@spfadden082711]

Agreed. The prodigy is actually pretty good gun

[@mulattodame1]

Best comment on the thread 🪡 🎯

[@soulshot96]

@@spfadden082711 When it works...it's still a bottom of the barrel, entry level 2011, full of MIM parts, with a shit finish, mediocre included magazines, and 'safety' selectors that have a habit of coming loose / falling off. But yea, other than all that...pretty good!

[@trump45and2zig-zags]

He'd still nail em all. Insane

[@MrKKUT1984]

Sticatto = caviar and a5 waygu Prodigy = new York strip Hi point= spam

[@Absaalookemensch]

When I competed, the pros said they weren't worried of the newcomer with a $5,000 rig (this was 30 years ago). They were worried about the newcomer with a decent gun with finish worn off from putting $5,000 worth of reloads through the gun. That was the kid to keep an eye on.

[@RodneyGout]

This. ^

[@jackburton5483]

Exactly!

[@lilasmith32]

Yup! This reminds me of that one Bruce Lee quote “I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times.”

[@nichmiller4251]

Word. When the distal end of the slide is permenantly slightly rainbow coloured from all the heat I'm gonna wager that person has shot the shit outta that gun and is about to work circles around me.

[@Vance78106]

This video is not for me......when the $1000 pistol is the poor mans pistol. lol

[@misteroneautumnleaf7374]

Agreed. Not sure when 600 dollar pistol stopped being the average pistol and 300 being the poor man's gun. Lol. Can't you get p10cs for 300 on sale actually?

[@OTTO_Man]

I was thinking he needs a taurus g3c 😅

[@mikejaan66]

I was expecting Glock 17 vs Staccato.

[@skrawny-clown-snatcherofth8651]

I took it as more of a video on a expensive primo gun vs a moderately expensive but obtainable gun that's bein heavily but poorly modified gun lol 350-850 is wat ill pay for a pistol but over time with optics light springs mags and grips lord only know wat I'll have spent

[@christopherscott932]

​@@misteroneautumnleaf7374SAR B6 it's CZ 9mm clone and it's about 300

[@russfinley7674]

2 years ago a meth head in Ottawa in Canada robbed a coffee shop. He got $37! However the gun he used was one of the first 20 Singer 45's ever made! So he got 15 years for $37 and had almost $100,000.00 in his pocket before he walked in!

[@andrewcramer7214]

That's definitely the most insane thing I've heard in a while. Thank you!!

[@Bignis805]

What happened to the pistol

[@russfinley7674]

@@Bignis805 it was DUMBASS Canada! They destroyed it!

[@alexithymia6288]

@@Bignis805 Given that it's Canada, it probably got destroyed.

[@Bignis805]

@@alexithymia6288 🤮

[@Melly556nato]

Pewview for John wick 5

[@adfadgaqgv]

John Thick

[@ethan5.56]

That would be a cool cameo with some fun bullet tricks

[@MRsolidcolor]

not intrested... mr wick is dead

[@semtex6412]

@@MRsolidcolor john wick 2.0 then. way better

[@Magueyes0604]

John Quick

[@FixTheLaws]

He's absolutely the best history teacher ever. He can get more people to actually want to know what he's talking about.

[@billywillhite7682]

I love history but his history is addicting. I love it

[@daltonszwalker6026]

i immediately said Singer as soon as you brought up sewing machines.. my mom has several sewing machines from ancient times made by them and they all still work flawlessly

[@DannyDeVTOL636]

Expensive vs cheap should not be $4200 vs $1400. Bit out of touch if $1400 is a budget gun😂. Maybe $4200 vs $600 with a Glock

[@SteveoRay]

Exactly what I was thinking

[@blythewurster9182]

Came here for this comment as well. Missed opportunity

[@ronaldraygun2639]

This comment is going to have the most likes

[@jackpleb2360]

Amd the glock is just as good. No capp

[@lupusebrius]

That's more on the fault of the 2011 market being absolutely ridiculous. The Springfield prodigy is a budget 2011.

[@arsenal_616]

You talked mad shit on the 320 without making a "don't drop your Sig" joke and I respect that.😂

[@DeadGothicRed]

Oh shit you have a KZbin channel? I'm subscribed just cause

[@ericwhite4941]

Kinda funny when Garand Thump did a pretty good drop test on lots of pistols. Sig passed but every 2011 failed. Don’t drop your 2011

[@johnhatchel9681]

​@ericwhite4941 Yep just watched that one.

[@randye.lawrence2740]

I have NO idea what this proved about anything except the "gas station knife" analogy is pure genius.

[@sekoncen9559]

I don’t understand the dislike for Shadow Systems

[@jjfearz6605]

@@sekoncen9559same here me and my wife have several shadows and have been nothing but reliable other then one had an overpowered spring

[@ungabunga115]

No, I don't wanna spend 5 grand on a pistol. I hardly wanna spend $600 for a painfully average gun.

[@bracoop2]

@@drivenbullet260to be fair I love the Taurus G3C. Good trigger, okay capacity, nice grip, it is better than my p320 I know that for sure. It’s better than my Ruger security 9, my dagger, my Springfield xd, I could go on.

[@xXDarthBagginsXx]

@@drivenbullet260 still have a PT145 Millennium Pro that I paid $300 for 12 years ago.

[@leojamesclune1730]

Same boat. All of mine have a sticker price of under 400

[@jordanevans1224]

Would love to see Nick running the XR920P. Love my Shadows.

[@920WASHBURN]

Of coarse.

[@Quality_Guru]

I believe a lot of us would like to see a redo with the expensive pistol costing $1,000-&1,500 and a moderately priced pistol north of $500. We are not eating, breathing, and working within the firearms industry. Perhaps the applicability of this test is lost on us as we can’t relate to this video.

[@MotoNoir86]

Pretty much. Inflation being what it is, it’s still alarming how many videos and comments are coming out where people are pumped for a new Sig over $800 or 2011 for $2k

[@Quality_Guru]

@@MotoNoir86 Being excited about a new pistol is easy. Actually affording it and paying for it is a different story.

[@bracoop2]

100% correct. These gun guys often forget that we have to afford groceries, gas, rent, cars, we can’t all afford a “cheap” $1,500 pistol let alone a $4500 one.

[@bracoop2]

Also, we’re not all given free guns by gun companies who also supply all the ammo.

[@Quality_Guru]

@@bracoop2 You got that right!

[@zacharyfett2491]

“Legalize the Hilux” Yes yes yes!

[@HoneyBee-p1l]

We need to be able to buy this shirt!

[@The_Wizard_of_Naz]

And the skyline too while we're at it

[@mikibiasion4634]

yeah you missed the point with cheap gun that should be below 700$ .

[@joshuawillingham6363]

​@@mikibiasion4634They were wanting yo use the same basic platform, and a $1000 is in the cheap side for a 2011. I think theu just explained the concept poorly.

[@daveoconnell3992]

I love my Gas Station Gucci Glock... I'm too poor for the Stacatto... I chose a few different options and continue to invest in training! Great video guys!

[@johntimmins5564]

Nothing or No one on earth can justify 4k for 2lbs of metal. Idc if it shits golden twinkies

[@RamikinHorde]

@@johntimmins5564 Depends how much money you have. Same idea with expensive watches/cars/knives you're paying for extreme diminishing returns. When you make 80k? Definitely not worth. When you make 400k? different story. Also competition shooters often buy guns way more expensive than that

[@gk5891]

​@@johntimmins5564Sure you can if you shoot for a living.

[@Mrjohnnymoo1]

@@johntimmins5564 I mean, if you're to the level that you are shooting significantly faster with the 4k pistol it can.

[@markevans658]

@@johntimmins5564it’s all perspective, I know people who make significantly less money than me who have Harley’s and dirt bikes, and jet skis, etc. Suddenly a $4k 2011 isn’t all that expensive if it’s your main hobby.

[@miketaylorID1]

In 1925 Singer wast tasked with making what amounted to 500 guns in the lead up to WW2 to determine the feasibility of how difficult /easy it would be to convert existing manufacture into manufacturing war material. Those 500 examples are unicorn gear.

[@deenyc1049]

I looked it up, one sold in 2018 at an auction for $414,000

[@miketaylorID1]

@@deenyc1049I remember. That’s amazing. It was a very early serial number

[@itscoldinhere]

And close to them are the Union Switch & Signal 1911’s, made in my hometown of Swissvale PA. Just outside Pittsburgh.

[@miketaylorID1]

@@itscoldinhere also highly sought - almost had one in my grubby mitts Was a mismatch at auction. Even then too rich. For my blood. btw have a mate in Youngwood PA not too far off!!

[@ryanhart7392]

Omg, get Honest Outlaw in there for the Iowa Trifecta! Cedar Rapids area checking in!

[@vipe650r]

DO IIIIITTTTTT

[@jeffcornett4290]

Agreed

[@pranc236]

Outlaw released a video with pew yesterday.

[@jonnyfreedomseed1499]

CR here too

[@matthewbaker5359]

That SDI into was smooth AF. 🤣

[@vipe650r]

Sometimes your own guns write your ad pieces for you.

[@bracoop2]

I think it’s spelled intro, but I don’t know.

[@clintnieves]

True. The only history I can pay attention to is from the fat electrician

[@pranc236]

Count dankula is fun too. Different but fun.

[@clintnieves]

@@pranc236 thanks for that

[@philipschofield7105]

Remington made typewriters before pistols. They also were tasked with making the 1911.

[@CivilizedWarrior]

The ww2 1911’s were made by Remington-Rand, a related, but different company. Basically, the Remington family started Remington & Sons in the early 1800’s, which made BOTH typewriters, and firearms. Then, in the late 1800’s they sold off Remington & Sons and it merged with another typewriter company, which became Remington-Rand. The family then started The Remington Arms Company, and continued making just firearms, while Remington-Rand kept making typewriters, and later on, computers. In a random weird coincidence, Remington-Rand, the typewriter company, (which coincidentally had a gun making lineage) was pressed into service by the gov’t to make 1911 pistols during WW2, simply because they were a big company with a big enough factory, and the tooling necessary to quickly and easily shift to building pistols. And they built a lot of them. Remington Arms, meanwhile, was producing ammunition for the war effort, as well as M1903A3 bolt action rifles, and other more complex parts for various other guns, which were then shipped to other factories with less machining capability for assembly.

[@Phordee_Phyve.45]

@@CivilizedWarrior History in itself is great. History, complex & detail-oriented history about a topic or subject a person's fired-up about; it becomes enchanting & inspiring to say the least. 😉

[@Marcusaurelius_a]

I like this fatelectrician. I petition he is in more content.

[@secretmountainlaboratory]

Should have been forced to use a $400 Rock Island 1911

[@DLFerg0369]

I really want to see you run a Hi-Point one day.

[@pranc236]

With a extendo! You know how to hold it!! 😉

[@bigfuzzy84]

The best history teacher, I present to you airborne beavers. Never a better history lesson

[@RosticArms]

I’m convinced they made this video to piss people off. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@richardthornton-dn4gs]

I’m over here with my $650 Echelon thinking the same thing lol

[@MGTexan47]

Them rubbing it it thinking "damn poors" I bet.

[@ryansommerfeld2098]

Singer 1911s were a prized find back in the day.

[@sheilaward8915]

I can hear the difference in quality. I never heard that before.

[@yonaklein]

I went in reverse for the last few years, from expensive Staccattos to Glock and a few Shadow Systems guns. I agree on P320, got rid of it. I am officially a Glock fanboy. Never in my life, I thought I would say that.

[@phenomdevon1846]

Brother, fire video as always. You’re killing it, congrats on 1 MIL. A comparison between the Staccato XC vs The Bul Armory TAC Pro would be nice, seeing as they’re within the same price

[@robinpressey6393]

Glad Nick was there aka TFE and making me feel less insecure about my performance with hand guns ... Side note of all firearms hand guns by far are the most difficult to master

[@willthethrill4394]

Training, vs expensive or cheap guns is so nuanced. Training definitely is king, but if someone trained for 10 years on glocks and is insanely good with them then decides to switch to a staccato they may shoot it poorly until they trained enough with it. Which is why it’s best to train with a very few different pistols until you become a proficient shooter. Then the other side is a new shooter, put a glock in their hands they may suck with it. Put a staccato or any pistol with a great trigger in it and they may shoot it very well. They might also suck even aith every advantage possible. I had a 320 and it always felt soft recoiling to me. I never had the skill at the time to shoot it fast so I can speak on the muzzle flip and returning to target. I personally hated the trigger the most on it. I tried many apex combinations and also stronger and lighter trigger springs and never could like the feel of the trigger. Then it had extraction issues so I traded it in for a p10c and haven’t looked back

[@wizzle2222]

I love that yall still do the Dickens drill. I also still do it as a drill as I'm on church security and the avg distance across the sanctuary is roughly 40ft

[@PkwyDrive13]

I have a Prodigy that's been fully built up, ported and all the goods. I'd be willing to bet it'd keep up with the XC in PEWs hands.

[@willbar1961]

Singer yep. I have a late 60's Singer sewing machine still runs like a top.

[@HenkduPlooy-ym3ed]

Love the video - Greetings from South Africa

[@hogan7356]

The collab we all wanted

[@vipe650r]

I clicked on this IMMEDIATELY

[@nicholasdangelo8174]

I almost cried… Both my Shadows run flawlessly! Cmon man we all hate P320’s… They’re like the new XD…

[@jackgreenstalk777]

Timers don't lie. Love seeing these drills run by multiple people on multiple guns. Great video ❤🎉

[@hankjackson7312]

I have an MR 920 w 5k plus rounds and I have never had an issue one. Have it checked by my gun smith regularly and haven’t had to replace a thing. Friend has a CR and same experience.

[@chriswoodward5020]

Same here. 10K + rounds through MR920 No problems.

[@ThundershaftTheGreat]

Almost 6k through my mr920l, she hasn't missed a beat.

[@joelschultz3652]

I’d agree with you. My 920 is a tack driver and has never had any issues!

[@nicholascalderon2168]

Mr920 go hard, I had about 5k on mine but sold it for my dream gun. I regret it

[@lucasschmitz4588]

Ya bullshit boss you had some sort of issue may not have been gun related may have been ammo related but you had some issues be fuckin honest

[@chef_hood]

that SDI ad was the smoothest ad placement I've ever seen 🤣 Brandon wishes he could

[@edwarddennis9008]

I hope you two keep doing these videos together.

[@JSF15th]

8:01 I like how you can actually see the bullets fly to the target.

[@Sopeth]

Love the collaborations with these two. Would like to see a video on someone starting out at steel frame/ practical shooting comps and recommendations on starting pistols to get them rounds down range and improving the skills. Aussie here btw, to get a pistol takes some time for us.

[@DeenoDice]

The prodigy is still incredible lol, honestly PewView with a stock Glock 17,19,45 would still be able to perform at these levels

[@Azrael713]

Prodigy is a fantastic gun when it's not ruined with broken aftermarket parts like that one. Idk why some people are missing that part of him talking

[@markevans658]

He wouldn’t be as fast with the Glock, it’s simply a matter of physics, but he’d still be better than all of us.

[@Zach-ov1cd]

Yes, please legalize that truck!!!

[@mr.nobody68]

I've corrected Nick before, and I'll correct him again AFTER the Soviet Union fell, the interim government put on a free concert for the youth who had a big hand in helping the Soviet Union fall. AC⚡️DC was the headliner with Metallica, PanterA, and The Black Crowes opened the show.

[@crowasylum7390]

Awesome video. Love the fact yall had Gvan such a great dude.

[@gvan7007]

🫡

[@chrish1585]

Yes! Singer sewing machine company tooled up and made the finest 1911 ever created by man!! They are rare as hens teeth and are exceptionally expensive! Collectors hoard them and very few ever come up for auction!

[@cwiemers5037]

Springfield 1911 or M9... used both in navy... nothing fancy but they both work every time

[@nahvr]

The sewing machine company is called Singer. I had the pleasure of holding one of these. It’s the smoothest thing I’ve ever felt in my life.

[@badassdahn654]

I was waiting to hear quack bang out! 😂😂😂😂 at the end of the video lol - Best outro in all content creator history on KZbin

[@ChristopherAlford-dm3li]

After watching the Springfield so glad I bought a Bul Tac Pro.

[@JJSWEATBulkTool]

Love seeing you guys together. Thx for introducing to the Fat E

[@botkill3635]

No a high dollar gun will not make an average shooter better than a great shooter, however if the more expensive guns didn’t make you faster than you with the cheap gun they wouldn’t exist.

[@thorrwtla1864]

No science needed for a mathematical formula but the Chubby Electron Guy would have to use the metric system for the answers.

[@stevenkrycho5780]

The Singer 1911 (the sewing machine gun) is an amazing piece of history and a personal unicorn.

[@MrMattyoshea]

Great pairing here… the more vids you two do togetheh, tha bettah

[@mbailey1023]

A friend of mine actually owns a Singer 1911. His dad wound up with it just out of dumb luck & he inherited it when his dad died.

[@steelvalleysportsmen7737]

The chubby sparky guy is actually a fantastic shot.

[@hellhoundserviceforce5694]

Anyone else always hear "In the air tonight" when they hit the targets? My ocd is yelling at them to finish the beat😅😂😂

[@SpicerDesignsLLC]

You guys are both pretty damn entertaining. Keep killin it.

[@mulattodame1]

Best Segway to a plug I have ever seen PewView is pimping his sponsors 😂

[@yudaliu725]

The "buy the cheaper gun and spend the rest on ammo!" folks are in shambles. As if the folks buying expensive guns only have that much budget and buying an expensive gun and training are mutually exclusive of each other. Bonus points for mentioning the skyscraping bore axis on the P320... the "bore axis doesn't matter you just need to train" geezers are also in shambles. If bore axis doesn't matter we wouldn't be trying to get as high of a grip as possible.

[@ericbrower9118]

Lot 1954: Singer 1911A1 Pistol - Price $80,500 was auctioned off in 2010 by Rock Island

[@DeanCalaway]

If you're not picking up what I'm putting down, just invest in training because an ace will make a $400 gun look like a million bucks.

[@alphahotel3446]

So glad that i bought the KDS9C instead of the Prodigy. Lol

[@frankensteinracing3520]

Do it properly compare a high point. With a staccato. But as I always tell people buy what you can afford and what fits best. Personally I like deagles. As the heft helps with recoil

[@cbulldog22]

i feel like i got pew'd in the nono spot with that SDI plug

[@thforres]

You can absolutely pay your way to success in the shooting world. While I understand to a degree, why the two 2011’s were chosen (they’re the current hotness, and these were at both ends of the price bracket) I think that we need to see the actual disparity between extremes. A cheap Armscor 1911 vs a Nighthawk Custom. Show us the $500 pistol vs The $5000 pistol.

[@ManOfTheNoldor]

3:56 🥁🥁 i can feel it Coming in the air tonight

[@gibster9624]

The shot at that Moscow event where there were so many people they needed a helicopter doing a pan shot just to show how insane the crowd size was.

[@markevans658]

In practical performance the guns are very close to each other, particularly if they hadn’t put the aftermarket guide rod in the prodigy, or already put it through a torture test and damaged it.

[@EricTheOld]

Following for a while, you guys are a riot 😂

[@aydwon3461]

As a 320 simp I stand with Gvan… supposedly only .030” different bore axis vs the beloved 1911…. And let’s see, does that 2011 come with the drop fire option like the P320? I think not…

[@gvan7007]

🫡

[@jeffreypeterson3072]

I have a 320 and a Prodigy I like them both.

[@wethepeople4762]

EDC is the Hellcat OSP, my budget is 200 rounds every 2 weeks. Would I love a Gucci level gun fuck yes, but what I have I trust with my life and that’s what counts at the end of the day. Got a red dot, going to get a light as well and that’s it. When I’m not at the range I’m using my Mantis system for dry fire at home and on my lunch at work.

[@thibert35]

That SDI segue was smooth

[@TheMeanGreenDetroitThing]

I carry a Beretta M 1951 cheap surplus gun. But I feel it could keep up with. With most newer handguns only downfall is 8round. Mag

[@snappeddegree7]

5:23 “I can feel it coming in the air tonight ,oh lord”

[@olivergiroux517]

if @thefatelectrican was my history teacher i would have pursued it in college, no joke what kids need!

[@Ihasanart]

Next ep should be Pew has to shoot a Hi-Point and TFE gets to shoot a SVI, then you'll have a proper dollar difference.

[@samleary2733]

SDI plug was very smooth

[@donaldist7321]

first thought I had: he is slower this time. Amazing that he can do that!

[@lexkahala666]

This is so cool my two favorite KZbinrs made a second video together! Only if they had Mrballen come shoot with them that would be so cool haha

[@aaronwsadler]

This is the collab we needed!

[@erggml1887]

A good spot between the Stacatto and the P365 is a CZ Shadow 2. At $1200 ish (MSRP) the Shadow 2 costs a lot less than the Stacatto, the SAO version has a lovely trigger and with the added mass it handles recoil nicely.

[@cbinder46]

Singer manufactured 1911s with the original blued finish can go for over $100k. If parkerized, they are still a 5 figure gun, but far less than $100k.

[@randykoster6587]

Staccato vs Yeet Cannon. Now there's a demonstration of skill vs price.

[@shanecoleman]

Im still getting a g19.. especially for 500 bucks.. fuck im still running my g19 from 2017, got about 3000 rounds through it with not a single change from stock. Thing just runs, 50 meters hitting a paper plate all day. Never took it out to 75 + but honestly that's a bit lame with irons.. oh wait plastic sights! YUP STILL RUNNING THOSE.. anyway my dudes just run what you brung, as long as its not a malfunction factory!

[@Millzspec]

If you like these two guys and historical content you guys should check out Wartime Stories!!

[@jackusmc2542]

That was the Singer and they are stupid expensive. They made, I think, 500 and they are really prized. The last one I saw for sale was around $5000. Great video.

[@MGTexan47]

Heck yeah. Nick up on the range.

[@BillythePastor]

give him a freakin rock island and try that crap again!

[@JohnHerman-x7l]

Would love to see hear your thoughts on the Tisas and or MAC DS1911 9mm pistols. Thanks for another fun video!

[@fatkido1369]

1100-1400 isn’t an inexpensive gun for the majority of us. That’s an expensive gun. Should have used a Rock Island arms 1911 lol

[@torvahnys]

My roommate and I have a range in the back yard and we host a bullets and BBQ with friends and family. We often joke that some day archeologists are going to dig up the house and say "wow, there was a really one sided battle here".

[@evanranson1512]

You've been hammering the hell out of that steal. Thinking you need to prove your worth. On a John Wick style course with good and bad guys. Against some real world snake eaters🤠

[@d.r.bladeworks9025]

I rock a Taurus gx4 AND I train with it. 😂 sweet little cheap piece. It’s gone boom every time I booger hook the bang switch. I honestly love and trust it.

[@willj1355]

Do a video with a 92x performance v anything. Honestly just want to see a video that has a 92x performance in it lol

[@crappie2048]

Love these videos way more with fat electrician