A great visit to Newcastle on the east coast mainline seeing services from Cross Country, Northern rail, VTEC, First Transpennine Express and freight from DB Schenker. Thanks for watching and enjoy :)
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@geoffbarry95408 жыл бұрын
Just listening to your comments about the Leylands and the comments written by others, the point that has to be borne in mind is that all railway rolling stock is necessarily long lived, and you can't just replace it because there are better units now available. The best argument for dumping the 14Xs was the safety one - bus bodies don't stand up to collisions as well as heavy rail does (as witnessed by the instance when one body of a 14X was knocked off its chassis by a heavy unit, fortunately an ECS for the 14X). Given that even such an extreme event didn't lead to withdrawal on safety grounds (even though this was at the time that the HSE was demanding withdrawal of Mk 1 stock for precisely that reason) then we end up stuck with 14Xs until they become genuinely life-expired simply because that's where the bucks are.
@michaelascott4149 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Well done.
@nathansrailwayphotography81253 жыл бұрын
Great video
@theenthusiastictrainspotte57309 жыл бұрын
Nice video as always!
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much
@MrKashmire1239 жыл бұрын
Well your anger about the Pacer's must of been listened to as it state's within the bidding documents for the next Northern Franchise that they have to go by 2020. Completely agree with you-I can't wait til their history!
@RyutoOfficialYT9 жыл бұрын
That 91 that did a loop's coaches looks good in that livery... dunno why, just does :P
@britishairwaysfan62358 жыл бұрын
Another great video,I hope that you will revisit it at some point. D
@frankslife3573 жыл бұрын
Northern should keep the pacers i love them i grew up riding them 🚅 🚎
@HSTWilliam9 жыл бұрын
Regarding to your question about 91116 doing a loop. If I'm correct that set went to Heaton to sit at Heaton then come back. Northern Rail do it every so often up there.
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
William Saynor Ah right ok. Thanks for clarifying that for me
@HSTWilliam9 жыл бұрын
***** anytime
@thomasmahoney49918 жыл бұрын
Yes, the "Buses" are horrid, they're incredibly slow, and the breaks make the worst sound
@thomasmahoney49913 жыл бұрын
@Brysen Kalel isn't that a bit of an infringement of privacy
@ryanstransport75745 жыл бұрын
The point of the loop is to make it look like a different set working the train back to London I believe
@Tornado9225 жыл бұрын
I would have to believe you on that one. The way I see it they use the loop to have the train sat there which allows extra space in the station to be made available
@ryanstransport75745 жыл бұрын
@@Tornado922 it still does it to this day one train sometimes goes round via Sunderland and Darlington god knows why
@keiranclarke29556 жыл бұрын
This station is quite nice architecture wonderful it has very frequent services calling there and the high speed trains are quality if the 142s get scrapped asap then it would be 1000000 times as good
@Tornado9226 жыл бұрын
The station is very welcoming but because it's so open it also means that it gets very cold very quickly. Especially when you've been on a nice warm train for about 4 hours from Peterborough. The 142's will be removed from service by 2020 because of the new units currently under order from Northern
@bradleylangton42969 жыл бұрын
I like the pacers because they give you a feel that your in a city or on a older line if you know what I mean mate
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Yeah i know what you mean but i just feel like their time is up
@danielmartin45167 жыл бұрын
My idea is that the NR buses should be replaced by class 180s or hsts cuz there be more room and less standing for people and of course less bounding
@mjsdecember19908 жыл бұрын
Would love to see a 185 in northern rail livery
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
I imagen that would look rather good
@tesslewsey82194 жыл бұрын
At the time, no one knew about the 195. But now we do. I suppose that IS you're point of view of replacing pacers???......?
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
They might not be but they might be adding Virgin Trains West Coast 390's onto the ECML as well as the Class 800's and 801's
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
The Great Eastern Trainspotter I can't see that happening in all honesty.
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
***** The Enthusiastic Trainspotter said that they might be adding the Virgin 390's as it's now Virgin Trains East Coast
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
The Great Eastern Trainspotter the 390's are staying on the WCML. The new Hitachi units are going to be replacing all of the HST sets and all but 5 of the 91's. The rest are going to be shipped elsewhere either on the MML or the GEML
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
***** If they don't have the 390's then will the 390's still be on WCML?
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
The Great Eastern Trainspotter yes the 390's are going to be staying on the WCML
@rlproductionsyt4 жыл бұрын
No bordam yet
@RedfernModelRailway9 жыл бұрын
I think the issue with NR pacers is that NR can't afford a brand new fleet to replace both 142 and 144 fleets when a refurb is a much cheaper option?
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Redfern Model Railway A refurb is probably the cheaper option but there must be something they can do
@danielhughes36489 жыл бұрын
NR just brought 316s and apparently there's no more stock to lease it would be good if they had turbostars
@unofficialleeds90848 жыл бұрын
Northern rail have been bought by Arriva now. By 2017, all the pacers should be phased out. Thank God.
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
+Chris Holloway It'll be nice to see the new rolling stock that is going to be introduced, and it will also be interesting to see the livery they decide to apply to their new trains
@unofficialleeds90848 жыл бұрын
+Tornado922 Arriva are buying transpennine too so hopefully some 185's will replace the pacers
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
+Chris Holloway from what I understand all of the 185 units are being kept. Arriva are buying new trains to run alongside them. Apparently the 185 DMU'S will be working mostly on the South Transpennine network
@benwilson4288 жыл бұрын
+Tornado922 The pacers are ok trains. They are trains that you love which Tornado922 likes or you hate
@tesslewsey82194 жыл бұрын
91114 has its pantograph the wrong way round! What on earth...
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
Nice vid! Are you going to be doing Chester-le-Street?
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
I might be
@class56trainsrock623 жыл бұрын
@@Tornado922 hello
@joebaker11459 жыл бұрын
I think that NORTHERN RAIL should get rid of 142 and have 170
@benwilson4288 жыл бұрын
Its not cheap its alot of money and northern don't want to do that. But will they get the money back from buying the 170s
@benwilson4288 жыл бұрын
Have Vergin bought east coast trains and will they bring class 390 onto the ecml
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
Virgin Trains won the bid to run services on the East Coast Mainline, taking over from East Coast back in march. They trailed a class 390 but won't be bringing them to the ECML. The new IEP trains will be taking over all of the HST's and all but a handful of the 225 sets
@benwilson4288 жыл бұрын
What are IEP trains are they the new class 800
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
Ben Wilson yes
@lctrains83708 жыл бұрын
Old underground stock is replacing the pacer.
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
Yeah I've seen that, hopefully they will be better
@connorwatson78237 жыл бұрын
That scheme has been scrapped. Northern are getting brand new units in 2018.
@dalecroll78719 жыл бұрын
the pacer looks old fashioned
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Especially when you put it next to a HST or Class 91
@bahnspotterEU8 жыл бұрын
+Tornado922 Especially ironic since the HST was built more than 10 years before the first Pacer ever bumped over some points. I've read that they plan on replacing the Pacers with units built by Swiss manufacturer Stadler.
@matthewavery8508 жыл бұрын
+danl33ds you'd go on a rattly old Pacer over a fast, modern and comfy class 91? (You're entitled to your opinion)
@benwilson4288 жыл бұрын
+Tornado922 The pacers were not meant for speed like the hst is so dont expect them to be good now when they are 30 ish years old
@sgkingly83927 жыл бұрын
ITS A BUS
@Kwebbel489 жыл бұрын
HST sneaking up on me, where did you miss the sound of it lol and the busss again and yeah it is ugly like some trams in amsterdam lol always a party here when you uploaded your video(don't come here your are done in one day with our trains, not much types)
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Debski Huis I had such a fun time in Newcastle :D I'm glad you and other are enjoying it :)
@bradleylangton42969 жыл бұрын
what are yoir Ideas about the class 800 and how they are gonna replace 91s and hsts, it will the worst day of my railway life :/
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
Im to understand that 5 of the 91's are gojng to be staying with VTEC and the HST sets are mostly going to be used up in Scotland so they aren't going to be scrapped. The other 91's are hopefully being sent to either the MML or the GEML. I'll need to see the 800's on test before really saying anything about them
@bradleylangton42969 жыл бұрын
All I know is its not long until 91 or a ec hst are gone
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
GA170208 I think the 91 sets are being split between the MML and the GEML but I'm not 100% sure. I'm to believe the HST sets are moving into Scotland from all of the stories I've seen. I think it's either 5 or 6 of the 91's will be staying on the ECML to work along side the 800's
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
GA170208 Yeah I can certainly film there. I've been meaning to for a while now. After I've done a few different stations once I've finished on the ECML I'll go there
@louisgraham76488 жыл бұрын
+Tornado922 hi my name is Louis can you go up to. Darlington again and could you try get to go in some of the cabs
@jacksparrow31838 жыл бұрын
they should get rid of the buses because they look old and not surpised one hasnt just blew up
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
Well they have gone way past their time now
@Zackb395725 жыл бұрын
THEY SHOULD GET RIDE OF THE BUSE TRAINS[pacers] THERE USLESS EXEPT THE SPRINTERS there fine right???????
@RyutoOfficialYT9 жыл бұрын
The new Virgin Trains East Coasts should definitely have been the old virgin colours not the new colours, especially on those new 43s... the new colours sort of work in the new colours, but not the 43s, am I the only one that feels that way?
@RyutoOfficialYT9 жыл бұрын
o iiRyuto Also, anyone know why on earth First are loosing all their trains and buses? no first buses operate in london anymore and FCC went to Thameslink, ScotRail is Abellio, I really like the First colours.... Maybe NR should get some 175/177s instead of the pacers... they're good trains for companies like them
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
o iiRyuto Anything to replace the pacers in all honesty. Even if you were to give them a refurb they can't be improved
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
o iiRyuto I really am hoping the 43's get the old virgin colours
@britishairwaysfan62358 жыл бұрын
I have to say that every time i see a "BUS"at first it did not appeal to me but it is starting to grow on me. I would not mind going on one just to experiance it. D.
@matthewavery8508 жыл бұрын
No you wouldn't they're horrible!
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
Ok, BTW, What's happened to ScotRail?
@RedfernModelRailway9 жыл бұрын
The Great Eastern Trainspotter Abbelio run it now, but they're keeping the same livery
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
Redfern Model Railway Then why is there an Abellio Greater Anglia?
@Tornado9229 жыл бұрын
The Great Eastern Trainspotter Abellio won the bid for the Scotrail franchise. Just like Virgin trains took the ECML.
@RedfernModelRailway9 жыл бұрын
Companies can run loads of franchises, just think about First!
@thegreateasterntrainspotte87609 жыл бұрын
***** If ScotRail have been franchised then whats happened to Greater Anglia If they've won the Abellio franchise?
@smithers2309799 жыл бұрын
Was tumnated sivce
@bentarpey97368 жыл бұрын
build new DMUs to replace the pacers and call them 152s
@Tornado9228 жыл бұрын
well the pacers are getting scraped at the end of 2017 now
@connorwatson78237 жыл бұрын
The new Northern trains will be Class 195.
@fynheydon-stuckey38018 жыл бұрын
I think Northern Rail should completely refurbish pacers to make them more comfortable and less noisy. But not get rid of them.
@fynheydon-stuckey38018 жыл бұрын
Or replace them all with 319s.
@callumatkins8409 жыл бұрын
I may not be a train fanatic but even i agree the pacer must go, its ugly and has nothing good about it
@caleblindley71428 жыл бұрын
Northern trains look so dated. Looks like a slug on the railway and goes the same speed.
@karloschaos3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy your videos very much but I wish you'd stop saying "she" all the time. "It" is fine but please not "She".
@Tornado9223 жыл бұрын
I will continue to refer to them as 'she'. There is nothing wrong in doing so. It's just down to personal preference