TRAINWRECKORDS: Run-D.M.C.'s "Crown Royal"

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[@sovietcanuckistanian]

I have to admit, saying "I'll only rap on the songs I like" and then appearing on no tracks is a harsher burn than any diss track.

[@Cdr2002]

I would have 100% agreed with you in a pre-meet the grahams world

[@romankotas448]

There was no Vaseline to be sure

[@Dethmaster64]

All of DMC’s songs disappeared into the Ether

[@jam_plays_games]

Personally, I feel like this album would’ve done much better if Run had added more verses about how he was a legend who started hip hop and ruled the world in the mid-80’s

[@jngr1]

Or if Fred Durst shouted "Them girls!" about 50 more times.

[@therpgerer]

admittedly that was the one thing I felt was missing from the album.

[@prettyshinyspaghetti8332]

Glad someone said it. I had the feeling that THAT was missing

[@matthewwhitaker8283]

😂😂😂

[@NoobToob2014]

Or if DMC was on the album even less than he was already

[@MP-kw5ud]

Fred Durst standing in the middle of the street in a blue longsleeve yelling "THEM GIRLS" while flailing his arms is my favorite moment in history.

[@lizbarr7002]

Watching that, I had a disturbing realisation about the origins of my dancing style...

[@drygnfyre]

Maybe he just had one of those days Where he didn't want to wake up And he realized everything sucked And he didn't really know why But he wanted to justify Dancing with his arms out But no human contact Or else their life might be on contract So our best bet Was to stay away Mother fuckers

[@VIMaggotVIBrainzVI]

I really wanna know where Todd got that clip from because the synergy between video and song during that moment is just too magical. It gives me goosebumps

[@phantomdriver2010]

I can't think of a funnier rap than "The girls might get naked but they won't get laid" What a dad move lmao

[@MikeMozzaro]

Honestly there's kind of a Chad Energy to the line just on its own. Like saying "Yes: Girls will literally throw themselves on me; but I don't fall for that type of behaviour" In context about being a reverend though is a different story.

[@joemomma3648]

Big asexual energy.

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Sigma male grindset?

[@mandalorian_guy]

It's some straight up Fresh Prince bars.

[@judgesaturn507]

@@mandalorian_guy Nah, it's more like Lost and Found-era Will Smith

[@onsonsweemy]

We're the kings of ROCK There is none HIGHER DMC's just standing there like a FIFTH TIRE

[@LoakaMossi111]

You say you like this album, then you're a LIAR We're down a member and things are DIRE

[@quajamil1636]

MC's sparks, but has no FIRE! Crown's been clashed, can't restrap those WIRES!

[@etiennekosa]

I'm the king of Boggle There is none Higher I gets eleven points off the word Quagmire

[@emilyadams3228]

If this album was ROCK And not a dumpster FIRE Maybe it WOULDA Had more BUYERS

[@sirjer73]

​@@etiennekosaclassic

[@extremechampion00]

No lie, when the mention of Limp Bizkit toys came up my mind immediately went to action figures instead of adult toys. That's how much of a boy-vibe Fred Durst carried back then.

[@DestinyKiller]

That's what I thought too. A tiny little Fred Durst that you could interchange the hats on

[@RadikAlice]

@@DestinyKillerHonestly sounds kinda cool, I imagine something like MECA's NES Jason

[@x_VineM_x]

​​@@DestinyKiller A Wes Borland action figure would go hard as well

[@carybeweary7209]

Finally,I can make that tag match with ABA Undertaker I've been dreaming of for 23 years!

[@Champiness]

Is there even any precedent for major popular rock bands having tie-in sex toys

[@TheTemujin27]

"Featuring Sarah McLachlan" What? "Cat's in the cradle and the silver spoon..." WHAT?!?

[@IsmailofeRegime]

At that point it's akin to someone on KZbin intentionally creating a bizarre mashup in a music editing software.

[@kyliethelittlespider-mangirl94]

I first heard those song lyrics in an episode of Family Guy

[@daelen.cclark]

@@IsmailofeRegime those are honestly better.

[@cannibalisticrequiem]

I actually remember when that music video first aired! I was actually kinda excited for it! It really helps if you know the context behind the video - which goes beyond just being about DMC wanting to try out a different genre of music. You see the MV premiered after a VH1 produced special about D learning that he was adopted, and going on a journey to reconnect with his birth mother and find out the why of it all, while also writing and producing a song about this and sampling/covering(?) Harry Chapin's "Cat's in the Cradle" for the song. D got in touch with Sarah McLachlan because he was a big fan of her music and felt that her voice would bring something that would tie the song together (this was also like 2003 I think, and we had the precedent for it in place with Eminem's "Stan" where he samples Dido's "Thank You" and has her do a feature for the song, so that likely had some influence on D), and she said yes because she's a fan of him as well, and while they're recording together D learns from Sarah that she is also a child of adoption which inspires him to write the lyric "There's a lotta people just like me" for the song.

[@DiamondAxeStudiosMusic]

"Santana got a big hit with Rob Thomas, so Run DMC will be able to get a big hit with the guy from Third Eye Blind" sounds like something an AI came up with

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

And both songs were released by the same label, no less!

[@JustJosko]

Hello sfw ❤

[@heymistercarter.]

That’d be almost as weird as Evanescence trying to make their big comeback with a song that features Billie Eilish.

[@TheAlexSchmidt]

​@@heymistercarter. I mean I'd listen to it though I have no idea what that'd sound like, probably not great.

[@scarletbitch866]

​@@heymistercarter. Uh, that'd be awesome?

[@SomeDumbKid1]

Ad-Rock taking his name off the song after he found out Durst was going to be featured on it is based as hell.

[@phillipwattsjr.4714]

Instead of calling in Durst, there should've been a Run DMC/Beastie Boys colab, especially since they made the track.

[@JJ-fg2wd]

@@phillipwattsjr.4714 they should've just scrapped the entire thing and done a full album DMC/B-Boys collab. That would've fucking ruled. Heck, they could've remade 'Slow and Low' with a couple of the original lines back in since the Beasties said that 'Slow and Low' was initially a Run DMC song.

[@SavageGreywolf]

@@JJ-fg2wd it would have been legendary, unfortunately the bossman wanted moar collabs and he didn't mean two rap groups working the whole album together. Also I don't think D and Run really would have been able to work out their stylistic differences there though. Darryl wanted to make a much poppier, rock-style record and Rev wanted something more on the pulse of harder hip-hop. Neither of them was super interested in reminisces of their heyday in the 80s, and you can say what you want about their solo works as far as perceived quality goes but I feel like they just drifted apart musically. It was Jay's murder that really cemented that Run-DMC was over, but I suspect if he had lived it wouldn't have saved the group (though there might have been a few more albums, maybe with a couple gems on them).

[@rogerbee1234567]

beastie boys are even worse at rapping than fred durst

[@vaelethun]

My god, DMC is killing me in that "Rock Show" music video. Arms folded, smiling politely, tapping his foot and completely tuning out Stephan Jenkins. Funniest shit ever. Why record anything when that just says it all?

[@NEEDbacon]

Brad Jones "take a Shot every time someone crosses their arms to look badass"

[@nejdalej]

It really gives me 'Brian Wilson in the Summer of Love video' vibes lmao xD

[@pyramidschema8668]

He looks like he's waiting for the bus.

[@SpyHunter89]

"He's just standing there..." MENACINGLY!!

[@deserteagle6428]

It's like Coolio in that godawful Falling in Reverse cover of Gangsta's Paradise. Only I can't tell who looks more lifeless though

[@chris_troiano]

Darryl credits Sarah Mclachlan for saving his life when he was suicidal, which I think colors my feelings about their collab. Of course his style is dated and he was well aware he wasn’t well suited for newer trends. But I am sure recording with her meant a lot to him, so I’m happy about that.

[@daelen.cclark]

It’s a better story than a song.

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

Seems many of these albums being created save either a band or artist: 1. St Anger is a necessary evil of practically no good songs from sessions of a now sober James Hetfield feuding with Kirk and Lars over feeling unappreciated that he’s cleaned up but in the end, it kept them together to continue music 2. American Dream is created on a promise by Neil Young to David Crosby that if Crosby got clean, he’d rejoin CSNY. Granted it seems to suffer from identity crisis but it probably contains more good tracks than St Anger

[@ilshyf]

Well, a good intention doesn't automatically guarantee the good results.

[@junebunchanumbers]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral I'd argue that Metallica continuing to make music hasn't been a good thing.

[@chrisgoblin4857]

@@junebunchanumbers I liked Death Magnetic and the new singles are different but I still think they're decent.

[@heymistercarter.]

15:53 I swear, fewer things on this channel have been this awkward and hilarious as a clip of Fred Durst awkwardly dancing while “THEM GURLZ!” plays SIXTEEN TIMES in a row. That’s one of the most embarrassingly weird things that man has given us, and he’s the guy who directed the John Travolta flop The Fanatic!

[@daelen.cclark]

Wait… HE directed that? 😳 Fred Durst directed that? 😵‍💫 I hope he’s a good person, at least.

[@HS_Gomikubi]

I was fully convinced upon noticing the loop (about 4 reps in) that Todd was pulling one on us, couldn't believe my ears when he finally said he hadn't edited it at all.

[@Samael1113]

I mean... he's also the guy that thought a speak and spell needed a featured verse. Or has everyone forgotten the "Discover -L-I-M-P- Say it" (repeated 4 times) solo in their cover of "Behind Blue Eyes? Totally drives home the inner torment and mental situation and cry for help the song is describing about a person who feels like a massive pariah and outcast for reasons they can't fathom.

[@geoffreytbaker8724]

In fairness, I don't think the direction was the Fanatic's biggest issue...

[@heymistercarter.]

@@geoffreytbaker8724 he also wrote it.

[@gordonstearns2232]

Underdiscussed Todd in the Shadows running gag: finding a way to mention the Black Eyed Peas regardless of the topic of the video

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

I expect similar treatment for Maroon 5 in the future from Todd. If you're a nemesis of Todd, you're there for life.

[@emilyadams3228]

It's like the Well There's Your Problem engineering disaster podcast channel. They call people, and even things, that they despise "Friend Of The Podcast [name/thing]".

[@AbteilungsleiterinBeiAntifaEV]

​@@emilyadams3228i think that's just a general podcaster thing. The cool zone media hosts say it often on their podcasts

[@drygnfyre]

"BIG IN JAPAN" is another great running gag, even if it's more called out.

[@corncake4677]

Moral of the story: Run was a legend who ruled the world and started hiphop in the 80’s

[@alex_flamer267]

And that in the end, it's just a rock show.

[@emilyadams3228]

I don't know what video you're watching, but nowhere in this one did I hear any mention of Run ruling the world and starting hiphop in the 80's. Excellent work. Keep writing fantasy stuff like this, and before you know it, nerds will be all like "Lord of the What?" tee hee

[@dickhandsome6579]

I will say, the story behind DMC and Sarah McLachlan is legitimately touching. Apparently DMC was suicidal and then heard her song 'Angel' and broke down from how much it touched him, so he reached out to her to thank her. So whatever their output was, the inspiration behind it was at least inspiring.

[@robjgolde3221]

I’ll take a million sad, Sarah McLaughlin pet adoption commercials if it means that song kept DMC alive tbh

[@maverickREAL]

Aw, that's beautiful.

[@melchiorhoffman]

Sarah McLachlan covered "Dear God" by XTC. Plus the first 45 seconds of "Sweet Surrender" is pure gold. There's always some reason to feel not good enough; every day, I love Sarah McLachlan just a little bit more...

[@bigstupidgrin]

Thanks so much for sharing this.

[@NarutooftheRasengan]

It gets better! DMC learned he was adopted later and decided to write a song coming to terms with it (the one Todd showed) and hoping to find his birth parents (he found his mom). He asked Sarah to be on it and she gladly jumped to help because she was also adopted.

[@Biggerbadderbabes]

*Folds arms in B-Boy Stance* *Nods approvingly* These were DMC's best lyrics off that album

[@applemask]

Probably THE best lyrics

[@storingjazzinmycheeksforth5319]

i can imagine todd giggling to himself after writing the "its tricky to write a rhyme thats RIGHT on time" line

[@DaveS71]

That was hilarious.

[@daelen.cclark]

@@DaveS71 Tricky to write, but definitely worth it.

[@jbwarner8626]

That's right up there with "A-ha!" as one of the most perfect jokes Todd has ever made 😄

[@expansivegymnast1020]

Such a good joke.

[@justincoleman3805]

Is it really writing when it’s that obvious?

[@griffindor65]

I know we had a LOT of WTF crossovers in this video, but "DMC ft. Sarah McLaughlin" might be one of the most insane things I've seen in an artist credit.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

The only way I can explain that was due to them coming from a similar background of being adopted.

[@Lowlander2]

@@pervertedalchemist9944 There’s been a story floating around for years that DMC was on the verge of suicide until he heard Sarah McLachlan’s Angel, and in reaching out to her to thank her, he found out the two of them were adopted and they went to start a charity for children.

[@sirgemini5743]

what also shocked me is that it samples cats in the cradle by ugly kid joe

[@juliagoodwin9510]

I like that song... mostly for personal reasons.

[@TehAwesomer]

@@sirgemini5743 That song is originally by Harry Chapin from 1974, the UKJ version is a cover.

[@SivleFred]

DMC standing like a dad waiting for the plane at the airport is both gloriously funny and age-revealing.

[@jonsrecordcollection7172]

DMC's musical tastes (Sheryl Crow, Eric Clapton, Sarah McLachlan) are pretty dad rock too.

[@SuperJNG18]

@@jonsrecordcollection7172 Yeah, he definitely is more a Fresh 102.7 than a Hot 97 kinda guy

[@lemonfortyfive]

oh hey sivlefred didn’t expect to see you here…holy mangal…

[@SivleFred]

@@lemonfortyfive Hello! Not surprised to see a Sample Hunter here, hehehe.

[@zygbeee8563]

@@jonsrecordcollection7172im not caught up, but what makes Eric Clapton cancel matterial?

[@theangryholmesian4556]

"The 90s were not kind to them" the show in a nutshell.

[@lexxypillz633]

aka "Nirvana killed my career"

[@drygnfyre]

@@lexxypillz633 That's like a sub-set of what could be called "The 90s Killed My Career." Because it wasn't just glam rock, almost ANYONE who was big in the 80s didn't seem to survive the 90s, with rare exception. Even Michael Jackson was a has-been by the 90s, which was unthinkable a decade earlier. (Granted he ran into some issues unrelated to his music).

[@slimbo3774]

I need to make an hour-long loop of "them girls" so I can take my friend-annoying game to the next level

[@iamhby]

Do it.

[@ddjsoyenby]

i'll sell it to foreign dictators and make billions :D

[@ulls66]

Me: Wait, is this part looped over and over in the video just to be funny, or is it actually... Todd: I have not edited this song, one bit. Me: ....I see.

[@Anomaly188]

If you do that you deserve to get punched in the dick. With spiked knuckles.

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

If you want to monetize your hobby, I bet you'd make some bonkers Escape Rooms. That genre of entertainment desperately needs your genius + whimsy.

[@flannelgay420]

The way you built up to the eventual reveal that D didn't actually contribute anything new to the album made me feel pretty similar to how I imagine fans felt listening to the album itself at the time

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Being that I had the album, I would wager that DMC wasn't on that album at all.

[@jamesatkinsonja]

I knew nothing about this album so didn't think much of him saying 'D's raps sound like there from the 80's' but when he reveals they literally are samples from the 80's-mind blown!

[@judgesaturn507]

Reminds me of the ending song from Be Here Now (though this time I didn't know about it)

[@Jurgan6]

As the Third Eye Blind clip played, my mom was walking in and I paused because I knew if she heard it she wouldn’t be able to resist singing along. So your “mom rock” call was dead-on.

[@richardgadberry8398]

"The thought of Limp Bizkit sex toys is too horrifying for words."--Quote of the Day.

[@p0werfu11]

The opposite of Sophie or Rammstein

[@davidl570]

Those toys are probably shaped like chocolate starfish.

[@rubywest5166]

@@p0werfu11 That aged well

[@emilyadams3228]

So if craving a real dick means you're "thirsty", would craving Limp Bizkit toys mean you're Dursty?

[@PhenomenalJec]

Nothing brightens up a day more than Todd breaking down musical disasters, feels like it's been ages since the last

[@gasolinekiss]

Almost 8 months since the Generation Swine video, I almost thought this series was done. So glad this came out today

[@jluchette]

Todd uploads are always worth the wait.

[@jup1188]

It's the evening for me and my gawwwd, a new train wreckords is just what I need tonight

[@strongxhands]

Honestly he’s my fav channel on KZbin rn, and has been for like 4-5 years now at least. Since he posts videos in such a infrequent, quality-driven manner I think it creates a longing for a new Todd product. Truly a master of his craft.

[@ChromeDestiny]

I like too with Trainwreckords that sometimes he goes for disastorous albums I already know about and other times he uncovers ones I had no idea about.

[@HueyRocks23]

Laughed harder each time I heard "Run raps about how he's a legend who started hip-hop and ruled the world in the mid-80s".

[@YukaTakeuchiFan]

Yeah, brought back memories of "David Banner will kill you" from the Rap Critic, though I think it needed three more reps before I collapsed from my chair with laughter like I did with that one.

[@lmnisop5516]

The Ready Player One approach

[@Anomaly188]

I got annoyed by the 2nd time because it made me think Run was either completely dry on ideas for the verses or he was so used to having DMC to bounce rhymes off of that he became a crutch and Run forgot how to rap without him.

[@michaelboydston313]

When he said it a second time I thought, oh no, he's going to run it into the ground

[@ddi_spec]

todd may be in the shadows, but he let juuust enough extra light in so we could see how he’s dressed like an artist who started hip-hop and ruled the world in the 80s

[@thehopeofeden597]

I genuinely think this is one of the funniest episodes that Todd has ever made. The reveal of D’s songs, the cut to The Pips without Gladys Knight, Smash Mouth - all of them genuinely made me laugh out loud.

[@dn22pkkdd476]

Also "THEM GURLS! THEM GURLS! THEM GURLS! THEM GURLS! THEM GURLS!...." Todd- "...I did not edit that one bit"

[@clwireg]

Also: ”Run’s verse is about how he’s a legend who started hip hop and ruled the world in the mid-80’s”

[@YouCantDeleteDenzelL]

SOME

[@williamd2989]

also 22:52

[@missybarbour6885]

The Sarah McLachlan jump scare

[@syria0110]

As much as I love and appreciate One Hit Wonderland, there's something about Trainwreckords that draws me in

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

For me, it's the factor of the artist trying to do too much.

[@yudhabagaskara98]

TWR is more complicated to review than OHW

[@kokotheclown2588]

Same I’m just fascinating of how many factors,incompetence or outside forces can destroy a album and artist

[@JetstreamGW]

Honestly tho? I kinda want a series where Todd gushes about shit he likes. Just, like, rapturous freaking out over albums that he thinks are the best. Especially if he thinks it's really embarrassing.

[@cityboy2092]

Often times, the One Hit Wonderland subjects don't have a hit because they either try to repeat the success of their big hit to no avail, or the trends change and they get left behind. It's fun to go back, but it doesn't always make for the most interesting story. I've yet to watch a Trainwreckord with a boring story, other than maybe the Hootie & the Blowfish one. There's just so much to unpack with these failures, especially one as misconceived as this

[@khaotix64]

"Ad-Rock made the beat and then took his name off when he found out Fred Durst was the feat." 😂😂😂

[@TheSpacekatz]

Was not prepared for the existential crisis I had of seeing what Fred Durst looks like now.

[@Azul721]

Truly, time makes folks of us all

[@hello_alpine1693]

tbf I think it's a wig

[@CoingamerFL]

I was aware that there was someone in Limp Bizkit that looks like that but I HAD NO IDEA IT WAS FRED DURST WHAT

[@Thor-Orion]

It’s a costume.

[@kunglaoshat1250]

This whole video was a banger, but the clip of the guy confidently introducing “Third Blind Eye” was the cherry on top 😂

[@TacticusPrime]

Like he thought it was about the Three Blind Mice.

[@ianlampe1502]

Yeah, that was Jim Nantz, longtime CBS Sportscaster. I'm surprised that no one proofread that lead in for him.

[@Mr96POP]

TRAINWRECKORDS has become my favorite Todd series. It’s entertaining to learn about an artist’s fall from grace, and it also gives me an opportunity to learn more about music history from before my time. Sure, _Crown Royal_ may have been during my lifetime, but Run-D.M.C.’s prime was before I was born, so I was very excited to learn more about hip-hop’s early years.

[@InkAndPoet]

Same here.

[@paulienuti8031]

Me too Mr 69

[@rjjm88]

Before your time? Oh god, I am so old.

[@digamejh]

@@rjjm88 I mean, Run-DMC's heydey was well before my time.

[@kareepan3382]

​@@rjjm88 Indeed you are

[@SmarkAngel]

It probably says something about me how much we all run to see Trainwreckords lol. Todds ability to break down the scene AROUND albums that aren't successful is the best stuff.

[@applemask]

I'm just hoping he gets to Birdmaniax before we all die

[@tafua_a]

"The king's a ruler, the ruler rules" Wow, D... what a great hook.

[@philly_sports1558]

Run-DMC was a lot like the Beastie Boys in the fact that not only were they both rap groups that crossed over to the rock crowd, their members also traded rhymes and subverted the rap group formula of each member getting a full verse. If you take one of them out of the equation, their entire formula gets messed up. That’s why this was the final Run-DMC album and the Beastie Boys never released any music after MCA passed away. For both groups, their whole was greater than the sum of their parts.

[@Delightfully_Bitchy]

very well put.

[@judgesaturn507]

Do the Beastie Boys have a Trainwreckord of their own?

[@philly_sports1558]

@@judgesaturn507 Not really. Closest one I can think of would be 2004’s “To the 5 Boroughs”. It’s probably their weakest non instrumental album but it still has some good songs and it’s a decent 6/10 album in my opinion. It also went to #1 on the Billboard 200 so it wasn’t commercial flop at all. And 2011’s “Hot Sauce Committee Part 2” went to #2 on the charts, was received well, and some of the singles (mainly “Make Some Noise”) were decently popular. So I don’t think the Beasties ever had a Trainwreckord.

[@judgesaturn507]

@@philly_sports1558 Good. Speaking of 2000's rap albums an album with potential for this series could be Blood In My Eye by Ja Rule. That was around the time of his feud with Eminem that caused him to lose his popularity with the general public.

[@jk844100]

I’d say The Beastie Boys are the opposite. They started out as a Hardcore band who started rapping as a joke but then accidentally crossed over into the rap scene.

[@doclank3d6]

Fred Durst yelling about "Them Girls" is an unique experience to say the least

[@Conklestothemax]

Ending an album with the vibes of this one with a cover of "Take the Money and Run" is certainly a choice.

[@mandalorian_guy]

Especially when the only reason they are covering it is because "Run" is in the song title. It would be like if Snoop Dogg did a cover of "Snoopy and the Red Baron" but changes it up to be about him devouring a frozen pizza.

[@johnindigo5477]

This video highlights every music trend from the Y2K era that ages horribly.

[@daelen.cclark]

Some of the Y2K stuff still holds up, just not the stuff in this album.

[@artry93]

​@@daelen.cclark Agree.

[@LindsayEllisVids]

How dare you invoke my name after slandering my husband Freddy Bear like that

[@dw89music73]

Hello Lindsay.

[@BluMndy]

Har har har har har

[@TJfromEarth]

who?

[@charlottecorday8494]

Shouldn't you be kneeling to cross dressers instead of posting on KZbin?

[@Zomdra]

@@TJfromEarth Fred Durst.

[@daishoryujin95]

One benefit of listening to the Song Vs Song podcast is you get to hear topics that Todd is thinking about and see them form in his mind and then, when he makes a video about them, you feel like you’ve seen an arc complete.

[@flannelgay420]

I was just thinking about how they had just talked about "It's Tricky" on there when I started watching this! I only recently started listening to the podcast so it'll be interesting to try to guess if any artists from future episodes will be featured on Trainwreckords eventually

[@becauseimafan]

Ooh that's neat! I haven't checked out the podcast yet, didn't know much about it, so thanks for sharing that! Cool to know we could get a sneak peek into his brain and see where it goes 😁 What do you like about the podcast? How would you describe it? ⏪ Anyone else can answer too! 😊

[@daishoryujin95]

@@becauseimafan I like Song Vs Song because I just like to hear Todd and Lina analyze songs. They start by just saying everything they like about the song, their experiences with it and the context around them, and then after that they ask these 4 question about them 1. Which of these songs has more of a right to exist? 2. Which of these songs would you want to see the creation of? 3. Which of these songs is ✨hot girl shit✨? 4. Which of these songs should be covered by William Shatner? And then they reveal which song won the patreon poll Overall it’s a good time

[@spaceghostandy]

Which episode does he talk about this?

[@daishoryujin95]

@@spaceghostandy it’s tricky Vs no sleep till brooklyn

[@DocSkribblez]

I always called this album "Rev. Run and Friends" more than a Run-D.M.C. album.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Pretty much. It's also worth noting that Arista Records literally copied the formula that made Santana's "Supernatural" successful. They forgot that lightning rarely strikes in the same place twice, SMH.

[@NJGuy1973]

Kinda like how Van Halen III was actually an Eddie Van Halen solo album with Gary Cherone as featured vocalist.

[@TMC1982Part2]

@@NJGuy1973 Or how the Beach Boys' Summer in Paradise was pretty much, a glorified Mike Love solo album, since it was really the first Beach Boys album without Brian Wilson's input.

[@saj8]

Clive Davis was the one who told Run, D, and Jay to redo the album, thinking that they were going to have the Santana effect. D's voice was already shot as it is.

[@gagadreams]

Isn't it insane how Carrie Fisher's first ever appearance in a Star Wars movie is a hologram and her final appearance in a Star Wars movie is also a hologram?? 🤯🤯

[@gregorymelissinos337]

Technically not true but funny joke either way.

[@MARCIE12ification]

😊😅😅😅😅😅

[@spaceashes]

A Trainwreckords episode on The Beginning by The Black Eyed Peas would be super entertaining.

[@daelen.cclark]

One of the most infamous.

[@AvatarSmurf]

That, and The Chainsmokers’ “Memories…Do Not Open”, are the 2000s era albums I really want him to cover.

[@416nWild]

Omens by 30H!3

[@GigasGMX]

Isn't Todd allergic to black-eyed peas?

[@LordArikado]

Genuinely surprised he hasn't done one of Guns 'n Roses' "Chinese Democracy" yet.

[@DiamondAxeStudiosMusic]

I was once looking through old VHS footage from the 80s for a video I was making, and I found one of some white teenagers chilling outside a high school wanting to make a music video to test out their new VHS Camera. One of them said "let's make one of those rap videos" and another said "yo yo yo we're Run DMC and we are black," and everyone burst out laughing like it was the funniest thing they have ever heard. THAT is the environment that Run DMC broke out of. The fact that they were able to sow the seeds for the 90s hip hop explosion in that kind of soil is a feat that cannot be overstated.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Not only that, but relaunch a comeback in the early 90's.

[@ibn1989]

yikes

[@jcstides]

@@ibn1989 “erm yikes!”🤓

[@scarletbitch866]

They didn't sew the seeds, they sowed them. To sow is to plant seeds, to sew is with a needle and thread.

[@dumbumbumbum8649]

@@jcstides you know, it’s a shame chud and chode are such similar words, because I’d like to have a nice portmanteau to call you both

[@cartmann94]

Turns out releasing a new album with two legends, one of whom does not agree with the other’s vision, is tricky. *TRICKY, TRICKY, TRICKY, TRICKY*

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

And the other member barely shows up to record the album. DMC appeared in the videos from the album, but never showed up on the songs.

[@esbenm6544]

Especially to get it out right on time It's Tricky... Tricky (Tricky) Tricky

[@nomobobby]

Am I the only one who just found out were that tune came from after hearing it in a snowboarding game from the time? Tricky... Tricky (tricky) tricky

[@digamejh]

Todd makes that exact joke.

[@maad1670]

Trrrrrrrricky!

[@mightyfilm]

The worst part about "Them Girls" is that, by repeating the same phrase over and over for an extended period makes "Them Girls" turn into "Demgirlz" and eventually into "stemkurrz."

[@kommissar.murphy]

It's worth noting the boys were only in their mid to late 30s when they did this, but they looked in their 50s. Oldest looking brothers in the game!

[@EpicBeard815]

I was the biggest Run DMC fan in high school, dressed as DMC for Halloween, had all their lyrics down cold. I had no idea this album existed until now.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

I did...and I wish it didn't, SMH.

[@emilyadams3228]

I'm from 1965, which means I was alive and aware of things when every Trainwreckord came out. The only awareness I've had of any of them before I found this channel two years ago, was exactly this: 1. I knew CCR: Sweet Hitchhiker existed when it was released in 1972, but didn't know it was from an album called Mardi Gras. 2. I knew Styx: Kilroy Was Here existed when it came out, cos you basically would've had to go to space to avoid it. 3. I knew Cher and Gregg Allman were a couple in 1976 (same reason as in 2 above), but not that they made an album together. So for all the people out there is thinking they never heard of these albums cos they plummeted into a well-deserved obscurity decades before they were born, I can tell you that they were already deservedly obscure at the time. Imagine being alive in 1977, and finding out that two music legends, that you knew about, made an album that year, but you find out in 2021. That's the truly shocking thing about how bad these albums are.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

It's weird how in the 80's Run-D.M.C. had to save Aerosmith career and now 2 decades later they have to be saved

[@ChromeDestiny]

How the turntables.

[@MikoyanGurevichMiG21]

It's even funnier how Aerosmith's career lasted through the decades much better than their other peers. They survived hair metal and grunge at the same time! Only the Stones and AC/DC were the other peers who'd stay as consistent as that

[@EclecticoIconoclasta]

@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 They just did amazing since the late 80s, probably riding on the hair metal trend and then riding in a flawless fashion the alt rock grunge phase in the 90s and by the end of the decade they even had a number 1 billboard song when things became more pop

[@antibishonen]

Why they didn't go for Aerosmith and go with Fred Derp, Kid Schlock, and The Blind Man went beyond me.

[@anthonyrowland9072]

@@MikoyanGurevichMiG21 it's crazy how they had relevant mainstream hits in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and 00s.

[@StormEagleCH]

I can’t get over the clip of Fred Durst dancing in the studio. It looks like an idle animation

[@WolfHreda]

I love that you used the example of Johnny Cash dressing like Harry Styles, considering Johnny Cash and Elton John once traded looks for an event.

[@SVNBob]

Not an event, but an episode of SNL. Cash was the host; Elton was the musical guest.

[@emilyadams3228]

​@@SVNBobThank you for the search idea.

[@cremetangerine82]

Great choice for a Trainwreckord. In the video for “Black Beatles”, Todd mentioned about who would be considered the black version of the Beatles. To me, Run DMC would count as one of the most groundbreaking rap artists and influential musicians (like The Beatles, minus the rapping). They were the first rap artist to perform at the Grammys, first to have a corporate endorsement with Adidas, and the only rap group to play at Live Aid in 1985, among the other pioneering events mentioned by Todd. It’s amazing how much they accomplished that even this pile of “how do you do, fellow kids?” mediocrity still doesn’t stain their stellar reputation as an essential part of the history of rap as this genre turned 50 years this year. R.I.P. Jam Master Jay (January 21, 1965 - October 30, 2002).

[@southsider3542]

James Brown and The Famous Flames are the Black Beatles to me

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

And the corporate endorsement came AFTER they made the brand famous!

[@cremetangerine82]

@@pervertedalchemist9944 Great point!

[@cremetangerine82]

@@southsider3542 I see your point, but frankly, that was James Brown *and then* his sidemen. Of course, some of those sidemen went on to be famous (Bobby Byrd, Bobby Bennett, “Baby Lloyd" Stallworth, etc.), but the focus was always on James. My opinion is that Run DMC were the “black Beatles” because you knew both of the MCs’ names (Russell “Run” Simmons and Darryl “DMC” McDaniels), DMC) and the DJ’s name (Jason William Mizell, a.k.a. Jam Master Jay, R.I.P.). and their distinctive yet cohesive personalities.

[@WyattWillis88]

How about the Beatles were the white little Richard? Hahaha

[@ParsnipPizza]

I was not expecting the twist about D's songs. Well done

[@jonhanson8925]

Also, after a whole video of building some sort of hope for D's taste and artistic vision it was quite a blow to actually hear one of his solo songs at the end.

[@ParsnipPizza]

@Jon Hanson For sure, and it's well hinted D's taste is more boring old head, if he's disdaining Reasonable Doubt era Jay-Z, and upholding Unplugged era Cl*pton

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

I was actually ready for some epic disaster when Todd was talking about D's "contributions". I was genuinely disappointed when he revealed the twist

[@animerocksautistic]

DMC standing there in the Rock Show vid doing nothing now has me imagining Homer insisting to Marge "Look at him. He's gonna do something and you know its going to be good!"

[@chavesa5]

You can really tell how quickly people can fall behind the times with this story. Sugar Ray, Third Eye Blind, Kid Rock, Fred Durst, like these would have been solid gets in 1998-1999, but even by 2000 they were all having their moments end very, very fast. It doesn't help that nu-Metal and rap-rock as a whole always felt like an unstable hybrid, and then there's the Napster in the room everyone is ignoring which threw a lot of style plans out of whack I'm sure. To quote Todd himself from an earlier video-- "it's like I watched the fall of the Roman Empire."

[@dw89music73]

Speaking of Fred Durst, I hope Todd will eventually cover Limp Bizkit's Results May Vary on this show. I mean, considering the troubled production that the album went through, how the band lost guitarist Wes Borland, and how critically bashed it was when it came out, as well as serving as a giant killer for nu-metal, that album was basically made for this show.

[@NJGuy1973]

Woodstock '99 ended the era.

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

You know it's bad when you have to be saved by Kid freaking Rock.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Even worse is when Kid Rock acts like he is a savior of music - then and now.

[@the-NightStar]

I'd honestly rather just retire if I was anyone that made a career only to fall THAT far to the point of needing to associate with that smoldering trash ball.

[@ddjsoyenby]

that's a new low point.

[@MaxOfFewTrades]

@@the-NightStar Hard to argue with that.

[@jamescook5783]

@@MaxOfFewTrades Hey you're here! I didn't know you listened to Todd in the Shadows!

[@brendanb2982]

Considering Sugar Ray started as rap metal, the Mark McGrath cameo honestly isnt TOO farfetched.

[@JoshuaFagan]

As different as Run DMC are from Crosby Stills Nash & Young, this episode reminds me of that one. They're both about groups past their prime, trying to come together for one more album, only to fall apart because the members are not on the same page.

[@RichV20]

Rap is a young man's game and no one over 35 seems to make it. RUN-DMC had this album handed to them on a platter. It would've been one of those cashing in on nostalgia albums with their nu metal disciples at the height of their powers. They pissed away their opportunity of one last good album. Trust me, the hunger was there to hear old school Run-DMC in 2000.

[@andrejg4136]

​@@RichV20 every old rapper knows you have to go away for awhile when you hit 35, then hit the nostalgia circuit after 40. It works for Ludacris.

[@ChromeDestiny]

Jefferson Airplane did a reunion album in 1989 that pretty much has that same storyline too.

[@demoleramera]

​@@ChromeDestiny As did The Byrds in 1973. Which means that David Crosby was a part of two hyped-up, but ultimately very dissapointing reunions in his lifetime

[@iam9991000]

​@@RichV20 pusha t is 46.

[@cryptiddmashups0011]

I eagerly look forward to when enough time has passed to cover Green Day’s “Father of All, Motherfuckers” because that is an episode just waiting to happen

[@fbrown9861]

I can’t wait- I don’t know how old an album needs to be to be considered a trainwreckord, but since he covered Witness 5 years after its release, he can do FOAMF soon enough. everything from the boomer marketing, to the weird falsetto, to the 100% pure uncut rock stuff, to the mediocre songs that didn’t sound like them at all, to the gary glitter scandal, to the horrible album art, to the fake leaks, to the “contractual obligation” conspiracy theory, is just perfect. and after that was released it really feels like green day were fully put in the past tense, no chance of a real comeback. no buzz around them anymore. I feel weirdly privileged to have seen all that go down in real time.

[@sixoffcenter80]

It's hard to say how much it qualifies. They're still doing good as a touring band, and I don't think expectations were particularly high for a studio album at the time. Although it might be interesting to contrast FOAMF against the other album they put out the same year (as The Network). Especially because Money Money 2020 Part II does have a Swedish producer on it.

[@Call_Of_Cuchuco]

@@fbrown9861 Also, just 26 minutes! I already get big Mardi Gras vibes from it - whose Trainwreckords episode i rewatch often. I’d like to listen to the album but, will I regret giving up 26 minutes of my life? I have liked Green Day stuff from their salad days just fine but, I dunno…

[@OrgaNik_Music]

@@Call_Of_Cuchuco Well, if you want something from Green Day that sounds nothing like Green Day, you're in for a treat. Otherwise don't bother.

[@happygosunday]

Trainwreckords has to be my favorite series on KZbin. Todd never misses

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

It's mine as well. I like that more than the One Hit Wonder series.

[@ddjsoyenby]

ikr.

[@kittykittybangbang9367]

Still hoping for man of the woods this year

[@BigHeadDeadass]

Trainwreckords is such a treat, we only get, like, three a year but i think thats good. Makes it special. I still want a Black Eyed Peas Trainwreckord

[@Jovian12]

I feel like it's only a matter of time given how he always takes a potshot at them when given the chance 🤣

[@Anomaly188]

It makes sense for him to do a BEP episode, but when he was regularly covering BEP in his early days he really unloaded on them for how lazy they had gotten on The END album. Plus he's make it no secret how much he couldn't stand will.i.am as a producer for being a bad one trick pony.

[@Topcaller]

"These sound like the lyrics that Anthony Kiedis threw out" is my new fav lyrical diss of all time!

[@Anomaly188]

Lyrics that late 80s Anthony Kiedis would throw out, cause that was when he would skip recording sessions to go get heroin and nobody would know where the hell he was.

[@Arrowdodger]

It's a rough one. I am not sure when/if you plan to do "Man of the Woods", but I eagerly anticipate you tearing Justin a new one if you do that sometime.

[@antibishonen]

Just Timber to the Lake was a premonition. After he tried to become Steve Jobs, only to end up as Elon. PLEASE TODD, GIVE US EXPECTATIONS!

[@lydiavalentino]

Man with His Wood will get its Trainwreckords at some point after Timberlake's next album (though who knows when that will be). 2000s nostalgia could revive his career.

[@aacproductions996]

He is Waiting for Justin to release another album so we can be sure if he is done or not

[@ShadowSorel]

@@aacproductions996rumor has it that JT is working on a new album. i genuinely wonder if it’ll have him make another comeback, but maybe this will be when we’d call time.

[@OrgaNik_Music]

Well, you got your wish

[@bencrowe8823]

I love these videos. I hate “hate watching” like cinema sins. This series doesn’t feel like that. It feels like he’s criticizing without being mean. Will always enjoy this channel/series

[@freyav.5500]

Cinema sins is just an exercise in poor media literacy

[@daelen.cclark]

Well said. We need more criticism like that.

[@davidl570]

Well, if nothing else, the Justin Bieber film that Cinema Sins did DEFINITELY deserved his signature mean criticism. Check that one out--it's hilarious!

[@samuelstensgaard4828]

I think that's because of the subjects of his Trainwreckords videos are almost always artists who he liked prior to the bad album in question. So it always comes across as: "You're better than this" rather than "you suck"

[@patrickmack9462]

Well, from what I gathered, the problem with Cinema Sins wasn’t so much that it was mean per say and more to do with the fact that it just offered nitpicky/shitty criticism to movies that mostly didn’t make sense or anything that resembled actual film criticism

[@ultranaticproductions3103]

I guess it''s heartwarming that, as far as the folk rap album Darryl wanted to make was concerned, Reverend in fact included that "Cat's in the Cradle" send-up he did in the album (although he possibly was just using any scraps he could find), but hey, it's the thought that counts. Also...that Black Eyed Peas' Trainwreckords of "The Beginning" is happening for sure, I can feel it. I don't care if they've had a few hits in the meantime, their relevance as the biggest stars of the late 2000's has faded like a pair of jeans washed 50 times too many.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

Personally, I think he got a pass for that song due to the subject matter. It's not everyday that you hear a song about adoption.

[@Zezlemetkun]

Remember that Trainwreckords are the end of *something* in a artist career. Not only is the "The Beginning" the end of the "Fergie Era" it's the end of the real cultural relevance because while they may have had hit's they are not nearly as big as the were before

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

@@Zezlemetkun they scored their first year end hit in 2020 in Ritmo for Bad Boys 3’s song list and a J Balvin feature might be another reason it scored high. Though the public collectively rejected Girl Like Me in 2021 and it barely charted much.

[@uglyaniimals]

@@Thomasmemoryscentral their lead single off their newest album also BOMBED, not even bubbling under despite making it well into the top 20 on pop radio

[@nv52895]

nah, the beginning does qualify for the trainwreckords series. yes, they had ritmo back in early 2020 that cracked the billboard top 40 but that was for two reasons, A. j. Balvin (j. balvin that time was the hottest latin trap artist out there and getting him to spit a verse totally made the song have energy and B. because it was in the bad boy 3 movie and soundtrack (a movie that has been anticipated for years.) that's also the reason why onerepublic garnered to have a short lived revival last year after not having a hit song since late 2013. their song i ain't worried was on the top gun maverick soundtrack and movie, one of the highest grossing movies of last year. maybe if (let's say) katy perry, jessie j, ellie goulding (pop stars who haven't had a big top 40 song for years) had a song on the super mario bros movie (that's currently owning the box office), they would also have that short lived revival relevance right now because that seems to be the formula for pop stars with dead relevance to have a small revival career. but anyways, back to the black eyed peas, their other songs didn't crack the billboard top 40 (mamacita and girl like me) and i remember pop stations trying hard to make those songs successful.

[@HipsterShiningArmor]

it just occurred to me that the entire reason they probably went with "take the money and run" as the rock cover for the album is because it has the word "run" in the title

[@peterelpanda2]

I can't think of anything funnier to describe Crown Royal than the official ad for it saying "The album of their career" at 10:41. Yes, Crown Royal was an album of the career of Run DMC.The lyrics were written, the beats composed, and the mixing was done.

[@654jimbob654]

There's no disputing that sounds come out when you put the Crown Royal CD in the player.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

it sure is music

[@Thomasmemoryscentral]

​@@iwakeupandboomimaratUnfortunately all the sounds you hear isnt full of DMC

[@OrgaNik_Music]

Out of all the albums made, this sure was one of them.

[@erickent4248]

Ice T jumped on the rap metal train and recorded one of the best rap metal albums in history, but of course he did it in 1992 when rap metal still mattered.

[@Samael1113]

Judgement Night? Back when the genre still had a lot of promise, and everyone loved the collabs for a mediocre movie. (Though Judgement Night was 93, so maybe he did it twice)

[@freyav.5500]

@@Samael1113 Body Count. A legit metal/hardcore punk band he did with his buddies from high school. Still going strong to this day.

[@noesunyoutuber7680]

​@@freyav.5500 I was gonna say - Body Count's not really a rap metal act. They're a Crossover Thrash band fronted by a guy who's also a rapper. They got all the anti-Gangsta-Rap buzz for "Cop Killer," but there's not that much actual rapping.

[@atlasking6110]

I remember back in the day everyone laughing at the line "There's three of us but we're not the Beatles!" Apparently, they thought there were three Beatles.

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

I could see why they said that. When people mention The Beatles, Ringo's name barely comes up, LOL!

[@risboturbide9396]

Maybe because, at the time, there was 3 Beatles left, John being deceased. Just maybe...

[@Tzilandi]

@@risboturbide9396 That feels like a very generous interpretation.

[@ChaosoneX]

I think that's the joke. Not sure how it's supposed to work, but that's the joke.

[@DarkmanPoe]

@@risboturbide9396 That's the reason they gave in an interview.

[@TuesdaysArt]

"Third Blind Eye" from the half-time show announcer was a brutal blow.

[@lancerutt9936]

I knew nothing about DMC before starting this video and now he's one of my favorite people you've covered. His music opinions, his refusal to have anything to do with this awful album, his bizarre role in the music videos, his insane solo album. It's all comedy gold

[@lancerutt9936]

Everyone's talking about the video where he's just standing there but the video where Run has to serenade him into taking part in this album (and fails!) is also hysterical

[@clwireg]

@@lancerutt9936 the former (Rock Show) also has a verse that was obviously written *for* DMC, but that Run ends up having to rap himself (I’ll assume DMC flat out refused to perform it). Run introduces himself as ”An MC like D” in the second verse

[@joaoassumpcao3347]

@@lancerutt9936 I swear the way he's laying on the couch looking at pictures and making the funniest faces had me dead

[@lancerutt9936]

@@joaoassumpcao3347 it's so funny

[@zachstolpa6521]

@@lancerutt9936 in his book “10 ways not to commit suicide” he goes very more in depth in all around this era, highly recommend it if you want to learn more about it all.

[@pabloaguirre7472]

I'm surprised that "Dancin' Fred Durst" is not a popular gif meme.

[@kylehegedus5498]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@Caernath]

Run-DMC were one of the few who could make wearing a fedora look cool and collected.

[@wolphintv]

14:36 - This whole episode is an adventure but I especially was not ready for Old Man Fred Durst.

[@SkorpTS]

I just looked up the circumstances of Jam Master Jay's murder, and apparently the trial takes place in November of this year. It still has not been solved!

[@atlassolid5946]

looks like they finally got convicted

[@WhaleManMan]

Spiritual successor to Clashs "Cut the Crap". You just *immediately* know it's a disaster.

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

Yep. Also shares the 'core member and songwriter not involved on the album' trait, given the Clash fired co-songwriter and founder member Mick Jones right before they made that record. Whereupon Jones ironically went in a very hip-hop influenced dance-rock direction with Big Audio Dynamite. And the Clash themselves just...sunk without trace.

[@alejoparedes2388]

The reveal of D.M.C.'s songs was brilliant.

[@emilyadams3228]

Not appearing on your own record is insane. Clearly, D's nuts.

[@CoingamerFL]

who tf is "Clearly"

[@NJGuy1973]

ICWYDT

[@sleeplessindefatigable6385]

If I've learned nothing else from this series, it's that the early 2000s did, in fact, blow as hard as I remember.

[@Oceanmachine27]

We were all in musical hell, I will never forget living in that fucking wasteland.

[@emilyadams3228]

​@@Oceanmachine27Try being a teenager who didn't like hair metal...in the early 80's. I was the only one my age who liked The Doors, Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin, and Jefferson Airplane. Chicago, with its club scene full of great music, was only 50 miles up the road, but without money and a car, it might as well have been on the moon. The only reason I knew about the 60's stuff was, my social studies teacher told me he'd donated all his records to the school library. My neighbors showed me AC/DC and Led Zeppelin in 1979. I got 30's dance music and country from my grandparents. None of my contemporaries knew what any of this stuff was. But when I moved to California in 1984, my neighbor got some Doors and Hendrix tapes, and loved it. He played them for his friends, and one of them said "I feel bad for making fun of her for liking this, it's fuckin great!" It was cool to come back and see Hendrix and Doors shirts on people who weren't me, or 40. Good times. One neat thing: I first heard Jimi Hendrix: 1983...a merman I should turn to be... in October 1983.

[@mariuspoppFM]

​@@emilyadams3228I know that feel

[@koneheadcokehead4981]

It honestly feels really sad this was the way Run-D.M.C. went out as a group

[@samcrider9746]

I thought for sure he was going to say "Well, Daryl did eventually drop that solo album and you can hear what that would have been like ON THE NEXT EPISODE OF TRAINWRECKORDS!"

[@AvatarSmurf]

The buildup to DMC’s lack of involvement was absolutely perfect.

[@habadasheryjones]

Respect to the Beastie Boy who took his name off the track after he found out Fred Durst was gonna be on it.

[@nikguimont8546]

I like the idea Darrel wanted to make a folk rap fusion song and when he got the chance he just interpolated Harry Chapin and didn’t have any folk instruments on it

[@Aforementioned]

*Harry Chapin ;)

[@nikguimont8546]

@@Aforementioned thanks dammit I should slap my myself in the face for that

[@kylebowen7177]

Can't wait to watch this 10 times over the next 3 years

[@daigneauray7087]

10? I’ll watch it 30 times.

[@becauseimafan]

Same 😁

[@ChromeDestiny]

"I'm in this photo and I don't like it."

[@poihpioakarp8845]

This record proves once again that it is, in fact, tricky to rock a rhyme that's right on time.

[@samuelstensgaard4828]

I dunno why but Todd saying that he loves Third Eye Blind makes me really happy for some reason

[@soulbrother5435]

You can't hide from Music from the Elder and Lulu forever Todd

[@GrafVonTirol]

Or Calling All Stations

[@PMelling2293]

If you need your Elder fix, I’d recommend Rezi Orenji’s video

[@soulbrother5435]

@@GrafVonTirol this album is not the trainwreckord because Genesis were already wrecked after Collins left

[@Bigones111]

I will never understand anyone who defends Lulu. The album was badly mixed and mastered and Lou Reed’s constant droning is exhausting to listen to.

[@zombiedodge1426]

@@GrafVonTirol The "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" movie soundtrack is the one I pray for every night. The Bee Gees were too big to fail in 1978, but it finished off Peter Frampton (whose previous album, "I'm In You," is arguably a Trainwreckord in its own right) for good.

[@SylentVoidkeeper]

Still waiting for that Man of the Woods Timberlake Trainwreckords, years on...

[@yudhabagaskara98]

Quite ironic and fitting if he reviewed it before his new album comes out later this year

[@Bigones111]

I do like the JT was trying to do something really unique with that album. It’s just that Pharrell was the wrong person to produce the album

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

@@yudhabagaskara98 I wonder if he's holding off until after that album at least, just to give JT one more chance to duck the Trainwreckords label. xD

[@HeyItsAJOmega]

Doesn't Todd have a rule that it takes a certain number of years until an album can be considered for Trainwreckords? Just to avoid sudden career resurgences? If it's five years, then good news - Man of the Woods is eligible as of February this year. If it's more than that, say ten years, we've still got a little while longer to wait.

[@williamd2989]

@@HeyItsAJOmega 5 years. 'Paula' by Robin Thicke and 'Witness' by Katy Perry were covered 5 years after they dropped and no resurgence came from the artists. I'm surprised he hasn't gotten around to MotW already, honestly.

[@WereDictionary]

...I get the faint impression that Run considers himself a legend who started Hiphop in the 80s.

[@e11aguru]

This is basically Run DMC's Cut the Crap.

[@NeverFirst1]

Todd can break down the most disastrous albums and still make a positive opening. A skill I think that only he and maybe 3 other people on KZbin

[@picahudsoniaunflocked5426]

His ability to convey costuming while literally in shadows is another very specifically Todd skill.

[@elmomachete5897]

A Run-DMC cover of "All Star" actually sounds amazing (from the two seconds of it we heard!)

[@Lyendith]

3:59 My god… I hadn’t heard rock this pleasant to the ear since Cut the Crap. It’s marvelous.

[@dollartwentychickentendies]

1. Todd just made my mourning the Bruins' elimination a whole lot easier 2. absolutely savage Vikings diss (and timely considering the draft just happened)

[@heymistercarter.]

Already in this video, you gave us three other options for future TrainWreckords episodes: The Beginning by the Black Eyed Peas Results May Vary by Limp Bizkit Blue by Third Eye Blind (or was that another Fairweather Johnson-type case?)

[@andrewpappas9311]

I agree with Results May Vary and The Beginning, RMV went downhill from the beginning since that was their first (and only) album without guitarist Wes Borland (who's a criminally underrated player, I don't listen to LB but man his riffs are insane) and plus their cover of The Who's Behind Blue Eyes is just kinda weird. As for the Black Eyed Peas, the only decent song off that album imo was The Time (which itself sampled a song from Dirty Dancing) but I don't listen to them so I don't know anything else about the album tbh

[@K.J.S.est1994]

@@andrewpappas9311 not to mention that RMV was one of the two major albums that were responsible for killing the Nu Metal genre once and for all. The other album being KoЯn’s “Take a Look in the Mirror.”

[@pervertedalchemist9944]

"Blue" was actually good - it was the album that followed it that was bad.

[@Lowlander2]

@@pervertedalchemist9944 Not just that, it was right after Blue that their guitarist quit and sued the band for redacted songwriting credits and unpaid royalties…which would happen again with his replacement. I dunno if I’d consider Out Of The Vein a Trainwreckord in the commercial sense because very few of those alt-rock bands stayed mainstream into the 2000s, but it could be argued it creatively killed the band and they never really got their spark back.

[@andrewpappas9311]

@@K.J.S.est1994 I didn't think Mirror was that bad but I do get what you mean, yeah

[@JadeCryptOfWonders]

To this day, Rock Box by Run DMC is one of my favourite songs period, that guitar riff accompanied by rap was a game changer.

[@andrewpappas9311]

That, It's Tricky and King of Rock (the first DMC song I learned on guitar) are all total bangers and those riffs are all fun as hell to play. Fucking love those those

[@jamesharding322]

So now here are the categories for the albums on this show: *Sophomore slumps a.k.a. "Post-flash in the pan" flameouts* : Turn it upside down, Fairweather Johnson, Zingalamaduni *Trend-riding that backfired on them* : 0304, The Funky Headhunter, Crown Royal *Band drama* : Crash, Van Halen III, St Anger, Mardi Gras, American Dream *Ego-stroking* : Generation Swine (Nikki Sixx & Tommy Lee), Mission Earth (L. Ron Hubbard), Summer In Paradise (Mike Love & John Stamos), Cut The Crap (Bernie Rhodes), Be Here Now (The Gallagher Brothers), Paula (Robin Thicke himself), Two The Hard Way (Cher & Gregg) *Personal drama/insecurities* : Lost & Found, MTV Unplugged 2.0, American Life, Witness *Bizarre changes in direction* : Cyberpunk, Passage, Funstyle, Kilroy Was Here Plus we also have Todd's guilty pleasures: Chained To The Rhythm & Pendulum (Witness) Calling Occupants....... (Passage) My Big Mouth (Be Here Now) Ease My Mind (Zingalamaduni) Fairweather Johnson (Fairweather Johson) Someday Never Comes (Mardi Gras) Got It Made (American Dream) Die Another Day (American Life) Pumps And A Bump (The Funky Headhunter) Joy City (Mission Earth) The Opposite Of Me (Paula)

[@lillianward2810]

I think Paula should be in the Personal Drama section.

[@freakfoxvevo7915]

Nah, Paula's guilty pleasure was Living in New York City

[@littlekingtrashmouth9219]

Generation Swine should be on trend riding that backfired because Crue didn’t know what trend to ride

[@billding6032]

“Stephen Jenkins of Third Blind Eye” literally spat out my water