Trainz: Dry Brook & Esopus Valley Railroad #21

What would the DB&EV look like in 2019.....
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Some things I forgot to mention in the video:
Industries out of service: Fleischmanns Gravel and Herzog Scrap
The RS blew its' prime mover and is out of service. The SW1500 is no currently not needed leaving only the GP9 in service. Since there are only a few industries remaining, this isn't much of a problem.
The caboose is also mostly out of service, only being used for long reverse moves or MOW operations.
Freight operations on the remaining industries is now dwindling so the future of freight operations on the DB&EV is not certain. We may see passenger excursions only in the near future.
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[@ApproachMedium]

I'm giving away TWO copies of Trainz 2019 once I hit 5,000 subscribers. We're *so* close!

[@MasonFowlkesKenneth]

Just subscribed! I haven't played Trainz since 2004, but your channel inspired me to jump back into the game and take a whole new creative approach now that I'm older. Would you be able to make a follow up video to your Trainz 2019 early access review? I would love to see if N3V improved the game since then. Let me know if there's anything else I can do to help improve my chances of winning a copy of T19 (I would love a physical box copy of the game 😅😁). PS: I just started on reviewing your P&B route videos. Can't wait to see how you revisit the route! 👍

[@Interesting_Banana]

I would want it if my computer wasn't older than me...

[@capefeartrainsandsirens]

Thanks for the favorite, here's the link: narailm.wixsite.com/narm/diesel-page-3

[@JonHammastix5643]

This is why your work is always amazing. It's not just another route. It's the history and legacy of the line that hits home to so many people. This stuff is happening all over the Northeast.

[@ToddReuterOutdoors]

This route had really hit home for me, as in my area, a large section of out of service track was turned into a rail trail. Sauk City, WI. "The great Sauk Trail."

[@jclassfan]

I've been hype for this episode, and honestly, this has made my Friday 10x better!

[@ChrisJones-gx7fc]

Timber Heritage Association in Samoa, CA is working to one day reopen the 16 miles of former NWP track between Samoa and Eureka for their proposed Humboldt Bay Scenic Railroad, which will be paralleled by the Arcata Bay Trail, and part of the plan is for the rail and trail to share the Eureka Slough bridge in a design that I'm sure will be similar to what you came up with here for the gauntlet bridges.

[@darthmichaelstrainz1519]

This route reminds me of the former Maine Central's Bucksport Branch. The railroad served a papermill in Bucksport until it closed in 2014

[@railsofthenorthland1181]

You should make a custom Mining Iron ore mining railroad in Minnesota

[@Sofaoffiziell]

I like the idea to change the appearance of a route to a more modern variant. In the end you could potentially end up with two different routes, a version from the past and one in a more modern shape. There's a German Trainz route which started to resemble the east of Germany prior to the unification, another version of the 'same' layout was turned into a 2000+ kind of route, i.e. DB AG Stations and Trains replaced the DR ones. Keep up the good work, I really enjoy your videos. :-)

[@844SteamFan]

The DBEV has inspired me to make my own route on Trainz 2 (IPad) that is run with the two Fairbanks-Morse locomotives we have, a CN Trainmaster, & a MILW H-10-44.

[@productreviewandrailfaning2925]

love how number 13 is just passing by

[@WITSimulations]

Beautifully done, loving the visuals!

[@realMrHudson]

Please release this modern version sometime! I am VERY obsessed with it and i love the modern-day revival additions to it 😍

[@LDOG951]

Great vid as usual...always enjoy watching you create. Looking forward to seeing the next phase of the P&B as well!

[@robkrasinski6217]

Oh, I just heard on your video that the railroad scrapped the idea of rebuilding the bridge and going beyond Fleischmanns but restored the track to Fleischmanns. But on my copy, I was going to rebuild the bridge and extend the route several more miles.

[@844SteamFan]

I remember watching this when it came out while eating lunch!

[@benharleman587]

My childhood railroad is right now getting ripped up being turned into a trail... watching you put the trail next to the rails is very nice to see instead of ripping tracks out... I was hoping Fishers, IN would have done the same but they didn’t and I’m very heart broken about it the whole event...

[@stuartthurstan]

Amazing build and very enjoyable video series. Now I'm going to watch them all again and have a drink every time you say "tiny little bit"! :D

[@CP_Trent]

This looks amazing!

[@rileyhogan8248]

I know of at least two places rails and roads shared bridges. One is in Tallassee Alabama in the 1880s the city did not want to build another bridge, so the railroad let the city build a road on the already existing bridge, with the railroad putting in tastes to keep people from getting in the tracks. Now that bridge is pedestrian only, with the road and railroad both using different modern bridges.

[@cupofcoffeeproductions6676]

Very nice episode. Liked how you made the debev in 2019. Cheers

[@ITrooper089Productions]

I absolutely love your route. I made some changes to a version of the original route based off of this video

[@josephchavez91]

It sad that the gravel industry shut down. Wonder what will be next for the DBEV?

[@Ronnie_GT1000]

Yeah ;(

[@MattChaffe]

Oooo a modernizing the DBEV episode 😂 Those are some pretty cool changes you made! Most of the rail trails we have around here are so old themselves that there is barely any remnants of the line other than a few old telegraph poles.

[@robkrasinski6217]

I decided to use a little real life inspiration for my mod of the route. I looked at the general area on a map and saw a town called Esopus. I measured the distance west, in Trainz 5 baseboards is 2 miles. I measured 12 miles west, a little further is a town called Whitfield and a bit beyond Mettacahonts. I might take the route as far as Mettacahonts. Where “Fleischmanns” is on the route I’m going to rename High Falls. Beyond Mettacahonts probably won’t be modeled but I’m going to imagine that the route once made its way toward Liberty, NY and connected with the NYO&W which is long gone. Also, my version will imagine that past Mettacahonts, it went through Kerhonkson, Wawarsing, Napanoch, and Ellenville which the NYOW also went through, and then headed west toward Liberty with the NYOW to the south through Fallsburg, and the fictional (NYC?) route through Greenfield Park, Woodbourne, and Loch Sheldrake. I might imagine that the track was removed west of Mettacahonts. So, the current tourist operation is between Esopus Valley and Dry Brook, with a phase 1 extension planned to High Falls, then a rebuilding of the washed out bridge and a phase 2 extension to Whitfield, and possibly Mettacahonts as a final extension. After that will possibly be a rail trail on the old grade. I added baseboards to my copy past the washed out bridge at the same height as that end of the route to extend it several more miles.

[@blujitsu2180]

This is a really neat idea! Glad you decided to share with us. Plus, it’s always a good day that you upload. Just keep your real life in order before the channel 👍

[@PC81101]

That looks amazing.

[@robkrasinski6217]

I just recently got back into this and yes, I would like to lengthen the route beyond its current end. I already did several miles so far, to a town called Whitfield. I have rusty rails in place from the other side of the washed out bridge to beyond Whitfield. I looked at a map of the area in New York, and mapped out where this fictional rail line would have went. Fleischmanns I decided to rename High Falls because there already is a Fleischmanns on the Delaware Ulster tourist line east of Arkville, NY. Unlike your vision for the route in the future, in which the line is ripped up past the washed out bridge, my vision is that the rails are left in place and that tourist excursions are extended beyond Dry Brook to High Falls, with a plan in place to rebuild the bridge and extend the operational track to Whitfield with a future extension a few more miles to Mettacahonts, with the line gone beyond that point. For Whitfield station I used Tidewater station by JR with a NYC freight station from the DLS with PC, NYC, WM, and NH box cars parked on a spur track at the freight station since rail service ended that far out in the PC era. They just left the box cars there and never picked them up and now they are stranded with the bridge out.

[@imagreatbigman]

Id love to have a copy of this route. It looks amazing!

[@Joshua31301]

This is honestly really cool seeing you edit this route to a modern version even if it looses all the character you gave it you still do a amazing job modernizing it well done can’t wait to see what you do next

[@consolidationproductions]

Joshua31301 Hey a railroad never loses it’s character.

[@128wk]

I'm currently developing a fictional route called "Burnside Suburbia" that is set in the late 2000's/early 2010's. It focuses on a suburban area with a company called "Burnside Municipal Transport Co." operating in it. It owns 3 trolleys. Like the DBEV, the future (2019) for BMT is looking pretty bleak. They began to experience their downfall due to two factors: 1. The opening of "Burnside Car Sales" crippled BMT's ridership. 2. The three trolleys are old and are nearing the end of their life cycle. The CEO has tried to get larger companies to buy them out, but his efforts so far have been unsuccessful. Unless one chooses to, BMT may have to close soon and the rails they ran on would be torn up...

[@ApproachMedium]

Love it! Good luck with your build ;-)

[@128wk]

@@ApproachMedium Thank you!

[@128wk]

@@ApproachMedium I also wish you luck in your future projects.

[@robkrasinski6217]

I’m also adding more equipment to my route, I built a stub end yard at Esopus Valley in the grassy area between the station and road crossing and fenced it in for security. Now I have a place to store coaches and other equipment. I added some heavyweight steel open window coaches to the fleet and a couple more steam locomotives and diesels. Is there a reason there is an an abandoned track going straight in downtown Esopus where the interchange track branches off? Was that the main line continuing East?

[@anthonyangelici2963]

So the line west of Fleishmann's Curve will never be double tracked again? I still feel the second track could have stayed, been rebuilt and used with the railroad and rail trail alongside it.

[@westernwashingtonrailprodu6339]

A Gauntlet Track is rail-only. It's a bridge with two full sets of rails, turning a double track mainline into(technically) a single-track bridge. The rails use modified frogs at either end that negate the purpose of switches, so crossing between tracks is impossible. So you still have two sets of track, but you've made them fit the confines of a widened single-track bridge. There are none still in use IRL that I know of.

[@ApproachMedium]

Good to know! I had the concept mostly right lol

[@TNRailProductions_01]

This series was great in my opinion! I would like to see some more fictional shortline routes from you! I have one suggestion, if you were to do some more shortlines, Here in East Tennessee there was a railroad constructed during the turn of the 20th century called the Knoxville, Sevierville and Eastern Railroad (AKA) The Knoxville Slow and Easy. Sadly the tracks were ripped up in the 60s, But I would love to see you make the KS&E as if it were a still operating railroad. Thanks

[@capefeartrainsandsirens]

Trainz Narm Group has a DBEV GP38-2, just in case you didn’t know. Link: [Will be here soon]

[@natestrains1166]

Were are the TRC safetran crossings from, or did you make them? Maybe Ryan made them?

[@imagreatbigman]

I just got the route for myself and I love it! I was unaware that I could make changes of my own to the route which kinda surprised me, but I tried to clean up parts of the route to how I would like it but to no avail. I just simply don't have the knack for cleaning up the line like you do.....:p Would you consider releasing an updated version of the route in future, or maybe perhaps give me some tips on how to clean it up myself the proper way? Hope to hear back from you. Enjoy your work! Mike

[@robkrasinski6217]

I have a question, did you ever have any plans to extend the route further beyond the washed out bridge? I am doing that on my copy, I made a few changes on the existing route as well like I placed a Jim Thorpe station in downtown Esopus and pretended it didn’t burn down, but that the city owns it and that it is currently unused. I changed the station for the tourist trains to a different station and named it Esopus Valley. I cleaned up the track to Dry Brook with the smooth tool. Now I’m trying to figure out what the route would look like if it were extended.

[@Strangekabuki]

Is there an episode that covers the DBEV from the beginning? Something with the initial layout ideas and implementation? This is sort of like picking up GOT in season 2. ;-)

[@ApproachMedium]

Not really. I started the project during a few live streams so you could dig those up. Otherwise I tried to cover my ideas in the first episode of the series.

[@exw.r3669]

Fun fact: 1993 is around the time conrail abandoned the Maybrook line

[@Flightman87]

Maybrook as in like the New Haven Railroad and Lehigh and New England Railway?

[@thejamfactory3248]

You should make a route with the railtrail and keep the route without the railtrail

[@rockyfanatic6846]

How were you able to get the route to be accessible with all of the engines I tried installing it earlier with the deps correctly and it didn’t work

[@tehangrybird345]

Maybe what it would look like in the far future. Maybe it will be upgraded to high speed, maybe it will be gone, maybe it will be a heritage railroad who knows

[@trxift]

Yo Approach Mediun where do you get your scenery assets buildings the scenery used in the video I really am I route builder too but I dont have alot of scenery us stores or nothing but your are amazing at building routes but yeah plz awnser thanks!

[@ApproachMedium]

Jointed Rail or the Download Station

[@trxift]

@@ApproachMedium thx il your videos!

[@philkirman8957]

quick question how were you able to run the whole thing i installed it yesterday and couldn't run it due to missing deps

[@St.LouisMadeNike]

I love your vids dawg

[@dannyU2g]

Next2? Just found out about this game but i'm huge c:s fan, in c:s next2 is a pack of networks, is that the same thing? If so can I use my c:s assets in trainz?

[@Ronnie_GT1000]

this is epic

[@railfanmcneal2527]

Where did you get you trc crossing from

[@Uboat65]

Something Tennessee like the TVRM line to Summerville would be awesome or if anyone looking at this comment likes the idea. Because I am terrible at creating good quality routes

[@consolidationproductions]

Alright boys time for a steam route lol.

[@DatTrainGuyProductions]

where can I get those rr crs trc gates?

[@trs-no8lm]

I had to get a new computer. Do I have to buy a new trainz or can I redownload what I have I got 2019 thank you

[@M1chael42O1]

So what happens to the PC RS-1 and the Conrail SW engine? They put into storage for being more motive power then the line needs right now?

[@ApproachMedium]

I forgot to mention it during the video but the RS1 blew its prime mover and the SW1500 is just not needed right now. Both are stored with the caboose in the DBEV yard.

[@M1chael42O1]

@@ApproachMedium alright, what's the story behind the line getting the NYC Fairbanks Morse at the end? I take it the railroad is mostly a tourist line now?

[@ApproachMedium]

Basically. The FM was acquired to handle additional tourist trains. Since the line was extended another couple miles from Dry Brook to Fleischmanns, it allowed for a mix of longer and shorter rides.

[@ITrooper089Productions]

Who took over the Conrail tracks, Norfolk Southern or CSX?

[@ApproachMedium]

CSX

[@ITrooper089Productions]

@@ApproachMedium Okay

[@Boxcar_Productions]

Will there be a new route in the future?

[@KG-qk1qp]

Just a suggestion that's probably too late, but could you have created a copy of the DBEV route so that you would have two of them and named one 1993 and the other 2019? Then you could have made all the changes in the 2019 version so that all of the work you removed/deleted from the 1993 version wouldn't be lost forever. At any rate, I've immensely enjoyed your videos. I had just begun my train sim experience almost 3 years ago by purchasing TS2017. I've gotten a lot of enjoyment out of it, but trying to create new routes is not user-friendly and can be very frustrating; heck, just trying to run trains like you would during a model RR ops session is like hand-to-hand combat almost. I happened across one of your videos at the beginning of this year and watching how easy (compared to TS) it is to create/develop a route as well as run trains convinced me to buy T:ANE back in April. As expected, my current PC isn't able to handle the graphics very well, so I've been waiting until I was able to replace my PC so that I can run the game w/o any issues. I was finally able to do so 2 nights ago, so once it arrives and I get it running I'll finally begin getting familiar with T:ANE and begin creating my own fictional route--The East Jade Falls Railway (EJFR). Thanks for being an inspiration and hopefully I'll catch the next livestream you do.

[@zackbobby5550]

Does anyone know if it's possible to run a multiplayer session with stuff downloaded off of Jointed Rail? Thanks.

[@ApproachMedium]

Technically it’s not possible BUT a lot of freeware JR stuff is now on the DLS so it *might* be possible eventually.

[@zackbobby5550]

@@ApproachMedium So if I find something in JR I like, and whomever made it also happened to upload it to the DLS, then I'm good as long as I use the DLS version?

[@ApproachMedium]

That’s the idea. MP sessions require only DLS or built in assets so in theory this should work.

[@capefeartrainsandsirens]

Where did you get the roads from?

[@JeremiahTrane]

Where do we get a copy of this version of the route? The 2019 version that is?

[@ApproachMedium]

I don’t have a release of it posted anywhere and probably won’t end up sharing it. Was more of a thought experiment than a serious build.

[@JeremiahTrane]

@@ApproachMedium Oh darn, lol, looked pretty neat, and would of been fun to see

[@marcoplier1511]

Does anyone have 30 kuids for this route?

[@robkrasinski6217]

Did you get the inspiration for the washed out bridge from this www.google.com/maps/place/Arkville,+NY+12406/@41.9990521,-74.2701346,254m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x89dc603c2a2fa47b:0xc103f33190d78ada!8m2!3d42.1478659!4d-74.6198771 This is located just south of Boiceville, NY. Actually, the county won and ripped up the tracks along the Ashokan Reservoir for 11 miles severing Kingston from the rest of the railroad. But there's also the washed out bridge, and a few other breaches including erosion under the tracks north of Boiceville (Cold Brook station) and a washout where the ground was washed out from under the tracks. Maybe the track from Highmount to Phoenicia should be saved and restored.

[@NERRP2017]

DBEV Dec 29 2019 update story We run gravel but we utilized and rebuilt the old bridge line, we own our own gravel company, we run the tourist excursion, we know do scrap runs but we get scrap from a CSX connection at the end of the line, CSX comes in, and drops off 2 hoppers or gondolas a day, and they run local freights with drop off loads for us through here often with gp38’s and gp40’s, and we run connection forgets to the old Conrail yard now ns owned and area update this now set in and around fictional Pennsylvania towns, Dry brook PA and Esopus Pa, and we now own another 2 steamers, ex usra ex b&o 2-8-2 mikado #4500, now DBEV #14 and a 4-6-2 Pacfic ex nyc #593, sister to B&A 595, which has the last copy of a streamlined nyc j3a Dreyfus Hudson whistle, #15, 15 and 14 handle revenue freights and 14 does photo charters to recreate original freights of the 1910 era, to 50’s and we own a old Guilford rail gp-38 and got with it old penn central pan am rs-1 parts and a prime mover and rebuilt that rs-1 and gave it a repaint of our prototype scheme New haven black, Sliver lettering, CN style & Orange stripe with green trim, & Faded red lettering. We rose back up and now acquired 2 more diesels Ex Gatx, Ex Mec, ex CSOREx up ex sp sd40t-2 #3428 and ex BNSF ex ATSF sd45-2, #5342 and a seaboard air line transfer caboose for small mainline runs and thanks to non profit organizations and contributions from people of the towns, the old bridge line and the old right of way and the tourist line are all connected and we run a museum now the dbev rr museum with all of our history and locos from years past

[@nathanhoener4501]

Oh shit Y’all

[@bochaaula4968]

90% of the material offered as freeware in JOINTED RAIL, has faults, payware dependencies, or, obsolete. It is funny that, in each dependency we are invited to "make a donation"... Really... Funny!

[@mrelvispresley6977]

Hi Joe nice video! Thanks for sharing. Even though I still don't understand why exactly you decided to to this experiment on this route, destroying all the hard work you had done. Maybe it would be better do to the trail on new routes. Just saying, nice anyway!

[@southernsignalfilms4157]

I have a route request. 1. it’s a EX-SAL Route 2.The Date Is The Early/late 1960s/1970s 3. It’s on the Brink Of Abandonment 4 It Was Abandoned in the 80s

[@arcticshark1808]

Second

[@fhp2024]

First

[@arcticshark1808]

GG you beat me