TRANE VOYAGER NOT COOLING

This was a call for no cooling on a Trane Voyager unit I found a few issues and got the unit back up and running.
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[@2020romania]

I appreciate you showing the drop of the condenser fans. It’s the reality of how things can just happen. Great video 👍

[@fitybux4664]

It also shows poor design/lack of serviceability. 😆 Come on, we can't get some gas shock struts on there?

[@MatthewMattoxcube8021]

Yeah, it’s like maybe if they put some hinges. It could solve a lot of problems

[@stillthakoolest]

This looks like a video game! REPLACE THOSE FILTERS! CHARGE THAT R22! DO YOUR WORK! CLEAN UP OTHER PEOPLES MESSES! GOOD WORK CHRIS!!!

[@cameronvanrooyen1114]

I’m still a college student and I’m working towards a engineering degree, your work amazes me. Your always so accurate and meticulous with your work. I love your KZbin channel, keep up the amazing and informative videos

[@hvacir9176]

the only thing I look forward to during the lockdown. is your videos .

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

thanks so much bud!

[@quertize]

Sir, can I see OSHA approval certificate for that cinder block?

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😁👍

[@MalleusSemperVictor]

Look closer and it might hit you.

[@tjworgull9831]

GOT EM!

[@jonnywilson9117]

OSHA approved cinder block. Obviously. Eric O over at South Main Auto LLC has an OSHA approved bucket. Would ya believe it ;)

[@HappilyHomicidalHooligan]

The Approval stamp you want to see is the CSA or UL Stamp, not OSHA...

[@georgecurtis6463]

Learn to carry a long 2x4 for dropping fan shrouds ! Just a hint. Fun to watch ! As i was in the automotive field, i made a tool out of largish brake line so i could reverse flush with air the radiators and condensors while they were in place. Never needed to make one for water. Amazing how much junk that got blown out.

[@FerroequinologistofColorado]

I don’t know a whole lot about HVAC but I learn so much from your videos. Keep up the great work

[@connorshaw3715]

Started watching these videos because I like to repair random stuff. These videos have taught me more than my high school class about how electronics work. Now I’m learning how to diagnose electrical Problems on my car and some other small motors. Thanks man!

[@GoCoyote]

Your perspective on diagnostic tools is well said. My apprenticeship instructor told us that you have to know enough about the fundamentals of your trade to be able to tell if the wrong values were used, or if a probe is bad, or the tool is failing. Your life could depend on it.

[@ed6837]

Naw, that condenser didn't need to be cleaned. Not much LOL. I have seen plenty of guys who would have slapped gauges on and said everything is good just changed the cap and left. Good job Chris

[@wolfgangunger217]

I don't live anywhere near you nor do I do AC work for a living (I was a commercial electrician and now a Construction Project Estimator) but I love watching your videos! You are have integrity and are dedicated to quality work, yet you also consider customer restraints and needs. Your explanations are clear and I learned a lot. I know how to install and repair home AC units from my years in the construction industry and have wired a lot of 3 phase commercial units so your examples are giving me new information. Keep up the good work! Thanks.

[@roygronholm2753]

I definitely dropped a cover on a residential unit and fan blade caught the coil. Unfortunate, but its the human aspect of our job. Anybody who says different is a super tech and deserves a gold star. I'm glad you show the human aspect of our job. Great video.

[@mdt1993]

Love your videos and how thorough you are on every single service call! Thank you!

[@jamesboberg]

You really a good job taking care of it and everything made sure that it is running smoothly. Also, your background in the mountain is so beautiful to view.

[@theothermikeg]

What a coincidence, I was dealing with two units just like this today. The whole building was single phasing because of some blown lightning arresters. A duct smoke detector went off and you could smell burnt electrical equipment in a few rooms. I'm not an hvac tech but I was able to check them out thanks to your videos. I was suspecting a blown motor but in the end all the motors fuses and belts were good. I played it safe and recommended they have an hvac tech check out the system before starting them back up.

[@bradwilmot5066]

That condenser is going "Um, sweetheart, Sassy can't breathe..."

[@TheWoodman064]

So enjoyable watching you! Seeing professionalism and humanity working together!

[@wickylopez8867]

I’ve had units that were undercharged not due to a leak but because the previous tech thought it was over charged and took refrigerant out, when it was just a dirty evap coil. Great video Chris !

[@Jehty_]

You saying "we are in the middle of Covid" brought a smile to my face. How naive or hopeful we all were back then :) Little did we know that April of 2020 was just barely the beginning of Covid 😢

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

Very true..... little did we know

[@joelsadowsky3436]

Great content!!....love the old “dial a charge” and “Simpson 260” on the shelves

[@ninamcclure2193]

The mountains in the background, perfect touch. Being from Ohio I don't get to see the mountains very often. I drove a semi truck for a few years and loved going bbn out west. Thanks for the great video.

[@MrJwinne]

Thanks for your videos dude . I hate those metal electrical panels on Trane Rtu’s . That transformer on the left , I’ve seen completely destroy those panels because of rub outs . I just wanted to mention and not criticize your video ( because you’re one the best out there on KZbin ) that we can always check that UCP status light port hole in the panel before touching anything . Trane also has the test pins on the terminal block for any guys that are new in the field . Just a safety measure if there’s no obvious signs before going nuts ,l. Thanks as always from Long Island New York . Stay safe out there everyone .

[@Jay-ik1pt]

RE: Your comments about software - you're absolutely right. The Computer Science industry has a saying: "Garbage in, Garbage out". It's a tool like any other, your results will only be as good as your ability to operate the tool and the material (data) you feed it. You can cheat a lot of the requirements (such as having your sensors in non-ideal places) successfully so long as you know how doing so will skew the result and account for it. ...and just like any power tool, you can multiply the amount of damage you would have done by hand if you're using it thoughtlessly and/or recklessly.

[@tomasjosefvela1]

Nice tech tip about brushing the schematics, i have definitely ha that disappointing moment after wiping the ink off of an older furnace.... lol, i have a dust brush too, don't know why it never occurred to me. Thanks!

[@chriscooley906]

Great work Chris, Love your approach to service

[@SaltyTubers]

Ok, I know I have a problem, but @ 9:36 when I saw that dirty old condenser I realized we'd be CLEANING!!! Great work man, you're tops.

[@gsxrsquid]

When Trane built their plant in Panama City Florida they cooled it with Voyager units. The roofs were covered with the damn things and we had the service on them. I don't know if they have changed but then the heat pumps had a spun copper filtrate/mesh. It would plug up with crap and was a PITA to replace. I guess the idea was to collect any manufacturing debris and boy did they. The first time I went down to the factory and told them I needed one. They told me no way. I said you have hundreds of them in the bin right there! Nope. But it will take a week if I order it and you won't have AC. nope. SMH.

[@cnyhvac-bms2963]

Always a great video. Once the weather breaks up here in Central New York. Can start some coil cleaning in my many rtu units.

[@Guillotines_For_Globalists]

I have heard that failed capacitors can cause the fan to blow in the wrong direction. I believe it's because the fan starts spinning up very slowly and if it's already spinning due to a breeze will just keep on spinning in that direction.

[@d.redenius5639]

The operating motor causes the one that is not operating to turn backwards. Wind can play a factor in it as well.

[@andrewrowzee5411]

Anytime a capacitor is mushroomed don't even waste the time to check it lmao

[@d.redenius5639]

Yeah as soon as the panel was opened that was the first thing that caught my eye lol.

[@MrHVAC503]

Another great video Chris - really look forward to seeing your approach to troubleshooting RTUs. Appreciate you brohamm

[@ares3914]

Good work on condenser. 3 rows most techs would've just washed from outside only and getting that dirt further in the condenser

[@madeofscars9355]

That poor condensor couldn't possibly be any more blocked. I honestly wish we had a system in the automotive industry like measure quick although automotive systems are simple on the mechanical side the electric side can be.... Interesting, especially with everything going electric using electric variable displacement compressors. I love you're videos mate especially with how you don't just single out the one fault and run with that and call it a day I've always had a fascination with a/c & refrigeration systems, I've actually been building a refrigerant recovery machine in the little time I've got spare just to keep my mind busy from other things. it's built from bits and pieces I've had laying around it automatically shuts off at 1psi when in recovery mode and can vac systems down and charge them, the next thing on the cards is refining the recovered refrigerant mainly 134A so that's going to be interesting.

[@randyscrafts8575]

We have 28 Trane units of 4 different sizes covering 2 buildings. Enthalpy economizers really screw things up but over all Trane units are very dependable but "must" be maintained. Ours are 1995 and 2007 models. I work the 1995's mostly. Three most replaced parts are belts shives and condenser fan caps.......sometimes compressor contactors. The dual cond coils are a big pain and need cleaned every other year even with screens. We have lots of cottonwood trees.

[@newedgemadness6502]

Picked up ballooned cap at 1min 34 seconds I just started going threw all your videos I know this is probably old but I really enjoy your content!

[@youngjohn5076]

Love all your video . 6 yr tech , and learning so much from you . Great work explaining thing.

[@wnchstr156]

Thanks for all the great info you always have. I work on restaurant refrigeration also. Watching your videos gives me great ideas sometimes. I really try to sit through the ads to support your channel but over 20 minutes is getting to be too much.

[@Eddy63]

Good vid Chris ... I'd be proud to call you back ...

[@andreaudio]

Always great input regarding the software!

[@abynoura7253]

Last time when i learn aircon n refrigeration, damn!!! This is sooo hard!!! How do u even remember all parts/component.. ?? Even doing troubleshooting is a headache.. u are soo good!! Guess it ur passion :)

[@mc-sp8zr]

Hearing you talk about your preference on Trane vs Lennox at the start is so true. Never really had a major complaint with Lennox units like I would with Trane or York (even Carrier to a smaller extent). How do you feel about the Prodigy controllers? Have you ever dug in deep to look at the ECTO parameters on them? It's wild how detailed they can get.

[@kendobass]

I just check the same model than this one, and had the same issue. I just follow your tips and got it ok and running.

[@tommyb8046]

i really like your take on software diagnostic tools since i have the same stance on them. i don't work hvac but worked on equipment that had a manufacturer supplied diagnostic tool. too many technicians would get totally lost when they replaced a part the diagnostic tool told them was bad and couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work. i had to explain that the tool wasn't suppose to do your job for you. it's only there to give you a direction to go in but you still have to use your brain because it can and will lie to you.

[@johnwalker890]

Having the right tools and equipment, makes a big difference.

[@homarkbeer]

Profissional work as usual love your educational vids. All I need is hands on to be more comfortable doing this kind of wor.

[@gregbrown5920]

Good job man, watch out for partial restricted fixed orifices on those junk tranes.. usually thats how they start to show signs of troubles superheat high, subcool high, you can over charge and get it feeding better but eventually they plug up ..trane will sell you a 900 txv kit with like 24 circuits to braze on the evap after you pull out all the fixed orifices...

[@mrodriguez4829]

Your line of work is very interesting. It makes me want to do a career change.

[@d.redenius5639]

I agree with you on the software comments at the end of your video. Its a good way to back up your diagnosis but by no means should you be dependent on it.

[@Cash8503]

I love the vids keep up the good work

[@scottbustamante]

hey good stuff im over here in eastvale i worked for provent/Ruskin in mira loma as a supervisor dont know how this video came up on my feed but good stuff man be safe at there with the covid stuff!

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

Right on I live in Jurupa Valley

[@kyleh1974]

Thank you for some deeper dive into MeasureQuick.

[@erikkovacs3097]

Nice view of Baldy and Mount Wilson.

[@HVACRSurvival]

Great job as always man 👍👍

[@Jimddddd1981]

I noticed the swollen cap as soon as you removed the cover.

[@stevengasssr3010]

I will soon post a video on hoseless charging using the Field Piece hoseless Gauges.

[@jhhawaii8]

I got the same umbrella! Good on you!

[@billsherman6129]

Thank goodness you've got good water pressure up on THAT ROOF!!! When you're using coil cleaner is it bad if the cleaner hits and/or sits (puddles) on other items or surfaces on the roof?

[@justinscott6228]

I've seen on more than a few occasions where the condensing motor wires are not tied off correctly and are touching refrigerant lines rub through happens because of vibration and it will eventually get down to the copper causing an arc and blow a hole in the lines also I seen where a liquid line was touching the wall on the second stage compressor side anywhere where the circuit lines are touching each other or a wall it will cause vibration rub through and cause leaks just letting you know through experience bro have a good one

[@JohnnyJr396]

Great video. I’ve always used the old school equipment. When you’re looking at your phone/tablet for pressures, sub cooling and super heat, is that app measure quick or is it the app from the brand you’re using? If it’s the brand , what brand are you using?

[@jhonatanoyarce4488]

great video! I appreciate the training

[@justincanterbury2561]

Cool next time i order from trutech ill click your link! Keep up the great content!!

[@willyhoogs]

I really want to get one of those umbrellas. Thank you for linking to it in the description.

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

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[@georgebrabec7138]

Am I the only one who saw a Copeland scroll on stage 1, the cfh for moving refrigerant is different between a Copeland and a Trane compressor.

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

@George Brabec the Copeland is actually a factory compressor. Trane actually has some of their compressor made by Copeland and others made by Danfoss. You can usually tell by the orange paint on the braze joints at the compressor. The orange paint is factory

[@biglick92]

Epic view of the snow capped mountains

[@zekenzy6486]

Great Video. Thank you for sharing. How do you know it was low on charge for add more refrigerant ? Thank you.

[@gregbowman3598]

Good one Chris

[@nickespo89]

Thank you for sharing, brother.

[@LMSILVIA]

Great vijeo, any thoughts on using pressure washers vs tap water pressure to clean coils? I always use a pressure washer but it burned out and i'm weighing on buying another one or not...

[@RayRay-nb7tn]

Placing your probes into the compartments beware you don't drop them into the duct drop. I didn't know if you got permission to clean the cond coil 1st or you told them about it when you went down? Once they are on their feet they will call you back. Great video thank you.

[@yuxiao3549]

Very nice video to understand the diagnosis process of an HVAC unit. May I know what's tool on your samsung tablet for data reading functions? Thank you and keep your excellent work!

[@johnrece6622]

good video. I've never been a fan of the digital gauges and stuff I like the old school gauges and manually checking temps and etc. esp on refrigertion equipment

[@mrgreen2646]

What shoes do you use? I do a lot of PMs and whem i clean coils my feet get wet and its annoying i usally have three pair of socks in my toolbag when i do clean coils lol

[@josephibarra7352]

I am from philippines thanks for sharing some informative videos

[@shadowbanned69]

I have those 10 ton carrier rtu and there just horrible for holding dirt in the condenser coils...

[@actechformallyyomama746]

I had one of those units. The condenser motors were shutting down. I checked the caps. Rated for 25 and they were good. I pulled a motor and found the motors required 10uf. Trane would only warranty the caps. Well just after the warranty expired so did the motors.

[@mikebateman8021]

Technology is unreal We didn't have that fancy Tools back in the 70s

[@johnt7502]

Reliatel: yep, it’s broke. Yelling at the screen “Chris, it’s the capacitor, look, it’s swollen.” Lol.

[@arcadeuk]

I've watched alot of your videos. 100% of the time so far, the economizer units are always disconnected 🤣

[@snoopyjc]

Amazing there are still so many R22 systems out there!

[@Goobermint]

Turbo 200 is a permanent replacement capacitor, it says it right on the capacitor label. the only reason you would use an oem is for special mounting or if you happen to have it. the turbo 200 is nice too because it has a 5 year warranty. you might also use the oem because it is cheaper.

[@sterlingarcher46]

Boy that was scary to drop that lid on the coil ey ! I almost punctured a micro channel condenser once , almost had to change my underwear afterwards !

[@joshl.158]

Had a voyager a year back that was running 500 head due to the split coils being blanketed. R22 system

[@jm69charternet]

I saw right at the start of the video the run cap looked like it was popped up on top with the coil being so dirty it caused the run cap to go bad..

[@EnderMalcolm]

So just an idea for those schematics and such. After you clean them up, is there like a single sided lamination material you could stick on them? Clear tape is an idea of course, but I think they might make self-sticking lamination sheets for stuff like that, to protect the schematics, and then you can write on them with erasable marker.

[@wades623]

you can actually buy it in a roll. not sure where, probably an office store but we used to have a whole roll of it and it was just basically a big clear sticker

[@antoniovillegas168]

Good job, sir

[@watomb]

Is it me does that thermostat board have a bad electrolytic cap 2:43 to right of finger second one up(next to top micro relay). Could be optical allusion or its dirty/shadow. Unit worked so it’s just me. Great video thanks

[@jeffgrant6914]

Good point Chris Good trouble shooting video

[@ariasworld2808]

Great work dude to be by yourself

[@douro20]

A good coat of fast drying varnish will also help preserve those diagrams. Have you tried 444B as a replacement for 22?

[@prettycureforever7102]

I think something more usable or what everybody knows an whats their you should replace it with say 404a or 410a thats what everybody is using now

[@FlyEaglesFly19111]

7lb added on a 13-18lb circuit....hmm that's a good leak. A quick check of say an infinicon hand held while you checked the blower.. and a quick fix by the compressor section. It could have been as simple as a Schrader valve. No maintenance.. yeah I always hated walking into those..at least the last tech dated filters.. hope the belt was dated too. Be safe chris.. have a great night.

[@HVACRVIDEOS]

It held 26 lbs in the 1st stage if I remember correctly ..... still its a bigger leak for sure

[@mr.c3928]

Thank you!

[@Georges3DPrinters]

That condenser fan deal is a situation that I would have added a couple of cheap 3 and 1/2 inches or tape to try to make the job easier for one person but considering you're actually adding holes adding Hardware got to be careful with that sometimes, but the Gorilla Tape goes a long way to helping big flappy panels and I already have Gorilla tape on me usually to tape filters together.

[@hobbymadness]

Where did you get that wand attachment for your foam cannon!!! Saw it and immediately had to ask... Btw love the vids man!

[@ADM_NEIL]

Great video bud!!

[@winch1587]

Maybe a couple of sturdy door hinges might help on next service call? Guess they are not that expensive.

[@38911bytefree]

The electronics cabinet at least have a door that makes a decent job .... looks clean inside, no dust nor rust. So this guys are not interested in the aftermarket bussines selling boards .... Other user just pointed that has no sense to name a RTU "Voyager" ... but what about this condenser lid ?. Good vid man as usual.

[@lawnmoose]

I like those Bomber safety glasses but they are $80 plus in Canada smh. Good vid.

[@HVACRNorth]

Good job & well said 👍👊✌

[@adamhvacr6536]

AWESOME VIDEO MAN!

[@JanKowalski-hk5cg]

Hi ! I enjoy all your HVAC videos as I am a maintenance administrator in my country. I have a control board to be replaced as it does not send a signal to the second or third fan when cooling stage 2 starts up (that's what the service says). Do you know how long does it take to replace control board in Trane Voyager III EYKH -350 with gas heating and what to pay attention to when replacing the control board ? I will appreciate your comments. Thank you once again for great videos.

[@markcaldwell1245]

Another good job. Those jobs can be tough when you see all the problems but have been given a cap before you even arrive on the job. You at least were able to clean that filthy coil. Like the umbrella magnet shade that seems like it would come in extremely handy.