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[@personanonmaga5178]

dude's first two responses being "yes sir" and "no sir" already tells you he's more respectful than the majority of people who would sit down opposite of you for such a convo. and I can repsect that

[@Ben1010101010]

Based

[@brando3342]

Agreed. We should be quick to point things like this out, and let him know it is appreciated.

[@Globeguy1337]

The kid’s brainwashing is the fault of his brainwashers; his cordiality and openness to discussion is his own.

[@levi5459]

@Globeguy1337 True

[@brando3342]

@@Globeguy1337 The foundation of cordiality, and openness should be at least partially attributed to his parents as well.

[@serinaz1922]

He was brainwashed to believe and not trust himself. Sounds like terrible therapy.

[@paulcolburn3855]

When Jordan Peterson says you can blame all this insane hysteria on the faculty of universities, this guy who tried to get Knowles cancelled was who Peterson was thinking.

[@nyyommm9640]

Take a look at what Alcoholics Anonymous makes people do. These therapy groups are wild.

[@larryisdead429]

the place sucked, i went to one of the places he was at aswell and the way things were ran you HAD to conform/ mold urself to how they wanted you to be / the "ideal person" place should be shut down n places like it

[@Tyxg11]

Jxws hate Christians

[@williamdv94]

Yes, it’s probably his first time taking the time to make an opinion on his own about this topic, but to be fair, it’s also probably his first time debating in front of a camera

[@LM-qe3fr]

Daniel deserves a lot of credit for being willing to actually have a discussion.

[@user-jf9ff5gq8u]

Optimization tells me this young man will find his way to reality... of truth!

[@peoswriter1]

Yeah, and even more to his credit, he was willing to thoughtfully consider Michael’s position and try to make up his own mind, not just stick to his guns and object reflexively. Very admirable.

[@iloveNgany]

That’s a very low bar to set

[@LM-qe3fr]

@@iloveNgany But it all starts with a conversation. I believe there is hope for him.

[@thomassidebottom7923]

His description of therapy is the biggest takeaway I have from this. He didn't go through therapy. He went through indoctrination. His experience can be summed up as "believe what we tell you to or you will be punished." I really hope he can break free.

[@Kurt77777]

It's tragic that so-called "adults" are indoctrinating our children with so many lies and garbage knowing how easily and strongly they believe in what they're taught.

[@delicious_seabass]

"as a straight white male", "as a Jewish person"... dude, stop with the self loathing. it's just so BORING.

[@DanielGurrera]

no one asked for ur opinion lol i dont self loath

[@tidepride86]

"As a" comments are always the worst. Generation ME

[@scottymackay1801]

@@DanielGurrera Have you been on campus to cheer for Hamas?

[@barbrothers2]

what part of that is self loathing? its just labeling. at least he didnt say cis.

[@larryisdead429]

@@DanielGurreralet em kno🔥

[@Dan-ji4db]

He's 21. Just about everything i believed at 21 is the opposite now. Him agreeing to debate shows he has an open mind and sometimes thats enough to let the light in.

[@calebscovers4714]

Right there with ya 🤙

[@garethmccartan3636]

Ehhh, no! When I was 21, a woman was a woman and a man was a man and that was 30 years ago and its still the same today, the only thing that's changed is that Satan knows his time is short and he's ramping up his campaign of death and destruction.

[@Dan-ji4db]

​@@Ashe_Glowhe said 21

[@barrasdh]

Life experiences can be the best teacher.

[@gooble69]

It's ok to be young and stupid, we all were once. He was more mature than me at 21. So there is hope.

[@joshkirkwoodrealty3643]

Slightly hypocritical to have a sign reading “respect existence” followed by signs reading “eradicate Michael Knowles from public life”.

[@myth8176]

exactly, and that part those "protesters" never understands, NEVER.

[@leahcantwell5185]

As a progressive it grinds my gears! I think it does a massive disservice to the cause and is as contradictory as it is authoritarian.

[@jimlidgard8295]

Slightly

[@sdm1568]

Well considering Michelle Knowles is actively calling to eradicate trans people from existence, it's appropriate to call for an end to her.

[@peoswriter1]

@@leahcantwell5185I respect that. I think that when progressives get it wrong (and they don’t always - I’m not trying to group you) it’s often because they have good intentions but don’t know when to say enough is enough. They find a direction but not a destination and inevitably end with extremism, having progressed right past the sweet spot between of idealism and pragmatism (a both high-minded and stable/achievable goal) and begin advocating for unreasonable or unachievable extremes. Being able to say “that’s enough” and “the only way to continue in this direction is to violate my OWN principles” might be what sets you apart from that group. And certainly the same criticisms need to be leveled at the conservatives as well so we don’t have the opposite problem when the pendulum inevitably swings back.

[@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics]

Freddie Mercury seems pretty polite. I'm glad he sat down.

[@chrish9762]

Lmao. That was my very first thought too

[@catanace1741]

He was very polite, and kudos to him for being willing to have a conversation. Having said that, he had some really weird and inconsistent arguments. It seems like he didn't even bother to study what each side is arguing before making up his own mind. He was just told by his environment that this is the side he's supposed to be on, so this is where he stands.

[@clescell6587]

​@catanace1741 most of the protestors were protesting based on what they were told and how it was framed. Perhaps his inconsistencies were him opening his mind and coming to terms with his cognitive dissonance.

[@nightowlme]

Was trying to figure out who he looked like. lol thanks

[@Kurt77777]

Freddie Mercury wearing a Nirvana "T". 🤣 Will have to say that Daniel is one good-looking young man who would be a pretty cool friend to have. 👍

[@roxikoko3744]

You don't tell a schizophrenic that the voices in their head are real.

[@DjNaste]

Bingo.

[@christopherstone4336]

But they are really nice to me and are very supportive of how I feel 🤪

[@radiantshay2146]

Exactly! We don't affirm an anorexic that they're fat do we?

[@darthpoop444]

I do to mess with them

[@Winterbaby1977]

Sometimes you do to keep things from escalating

[@monsieurcharcutier4490]

He literally admitted to being brainwashed. I honestly just feel bad for that guy, got to give him credit for having the guts to talk to Michael though

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

And didn’t even realize it…

[@GigaTyGuy]

11 weeks in the desert where they "taught" him all about "therapy and blah blah blah" JFC therapy is sounding more and more dangerous when it's administered by the wrong people.

[@adrianharry5336]

Absolute twit he was

[@nealorr5086]

Don't feel too bad for him. He makes good money as a Freddie Mercury impersonator.

[@Muskeljudentum]

1950s: “in 75 years we’ll have flying cars!” 75 years later: “men are women.”

[@OvidiuAlex28-vb5hq]

We also have many tech revolutions. Every direction is seeing massive improvement (the negative kind aswell)

[@Kekaler]

Correction. Men are men who think they are women! xD

[@bengalvin6976]

this comment is hilarious

[@rokko_hates_japan]

Mostly negative. Every "innovation" promised to improve the human experience and bring people closer together, has basically done the opposite.

[@albuquerquehotspot7835]

It really blows my mind people still consider trans a real thing 🤦‍♂️

[@proselytefever]

You boomers have it so easy it's unbelievable. You guys gave us a world where we grew up with trans people in our classes and we never got to see a world without them. Of course people think it's real, your libertarian and liberal ideology brought it into our lives when we were children!

[@justiceForAll316]

"cancel me if I said it wrong". This is so subtle that you hardly notice it. But this little phrase right here examplifies exactly what is wrong with the whole woke movement - at its core it is fasict. No argument, no discussion. Just canceling. It is so ingrained that it is already used as a a slang.

[@Matthew-mf6xg]

I'm glad I didn't grow up with this generation. They're so confused and they wear their confusion as a badge of honor.

[@gr33dyglutton]

Bringing up Israel for no reason shows he lumps every far leftwing idea together like a doctrine he needs to subscribe to or he'll become a pariah.

[@danieldarby9953]

Also at the end when Michael was imploring him to tell the truth. "Would you pay my bail if I go to jail?"

[@MyShadow2468]

​@@danieldarby9953it's going to suck for future generations

[@buzztrucker]

@@Matthew-mf6xg For most its not even confusion. Many are coherent with regularly functioning mental faculties. It's a revolt against reality and many just get sucked into the current because they don't want to be canceled. It's just go with the flow thinking/acting.

[@arkitekbeatzify]

This is so sad. You wouldn't stop your friend from unaliving themselves? That's a terrible sign of where society sits.

[@t_chak]

Fr

[@billyfaulk6789]

Why are you censoring yourself

[@zackwalker1721]

commiting to a trans gender lifestyle is one of those things that's perfectly normal and healthy until it involves someone you actually care about.

[@chrisk1180]

Unaliving is more jarring to hear than "killing". Let's stop with these weird new terms

[@JS-jn8ku]

I just believe in attacking the problem behind the belief. Why has this person come to this conclusion? This involves years of therapy. If, as an adult, this conclusion is still the only conclusion in order to live a peaceful life, havevat it. It is when a certain ideology and a known non fact, is pushed on others and their children, that is my issue. It is hard to demand acceptance from others, when the person could not accept themselves to begin with. I have no hate, just reality.

[@gavinthornton704]

"A lie you truly believe, is that truly a lie?" Man thats a statement that wouldve made Orwell shudder

[@alexisj3087]

Yes. Pure solipsism. Imagine what damage can be done to a population who thinks this way. How easy is it to manipulate people who think this way. Scary.

[@A94music]

The fascist propagandists ran on that very sentiment

[@olemew]

Not really. By definition, it is NOT a lie

[@TheAyurvedic]

@@olemewa lie is a lie whether you believe it or not.

[@olemew]

@@TheAyurvedic no, a lie is only a lie if you don't believe in what you say. That's the literal definition. It has to be intentional and you have to know that you're saying something false.

[@SunnysMom777]

What a sweet and caring young man, but so lost. Poor kid sounds like he was sent to some weird cult in the dessert. He needed good guidance (and still does) but didn't get it. Thank you, Michael, for being so kind and thoughtful in how you engaged with him. Seems you were a better father figure and friend to him than anyone else in his life!

[@Ocean_Jack]

Michael should have asked him, if he has a friend that is severely anorexic, would he affirm her delusion?

[@DanielGurrera]

no bc i don’t believe being transgender is a mental illness

[@ryanblueeyes9939]

He’d probably would have said the same stupid answer “yea I’d go along with it if that’s what my friend believes” I can’t understand how these people get jobs or diplomas…. We need more common sense classes in schools and colleges. The fact that he said he’d stand back and watch his friend harm themselves…. Is just…. Absurd….

[@Ocean_Jack]

@@ryanblueeyes9939 The saddest thing is that he seems like a kind young man, but his kindness and compassion has replaced all other virtues.

[@amandar.9872]

That's a good one

[@catholicguy1073]

💯

[@empiricalpurity]

Poor guy. His parents got scammed and he got brain washed.

[@chuckhoyle1211]

I think he is trying to be a good person and do the right thing. It is just that nobody has told him or shown him what being a good person or what the right thing is.

[@johnnunn8688]

@@chuckhoyle1211, Michael just did.

[@chases3314]

He was probably raped as well I've heard horror story's about those wilderness camps

[@bruhcsp]

It’s funny because he can speak for the trans woman, but he can’t speak for an actual woman, because he is not one of them! Interesting!

[@Citizen876ix]

So he feels sorry for men wanting to go into women's bathrooms but cannot speak on the rights of actual women and little girls not wanting men in their spaces. SMH

[@silverglitchproductions]

Hearing him say he couldn’t say If Michael was a black man or not hurt my brain so badly… the left has completely lost any sense of reality

[@hayfieldhermit9657]

Inside that young man's head, he knew Michael was white. He just outwardly responds with uncertainty to try to keep his position consistent. And these types of things can work for a while, as long as you are not faced with something that forces you to be correct or face a bad consequence. Rocket scientists cannot function this way, or they would be out of jobs quickly.

[@Mannie.Simeon]

loll shockingly funny since Knowles always says he's Sicilian. But never know who's biracial or multiethnic tbh it's the least controversial point he made. Gender is binary, race is a spectrum

[@Thetruthiscosmic]

All part of the plan

[@joshuab79]

He hasn’t been programmed to have a response…! Intellectual diversity is not allowed…. You don’t even question the doctrine because you’ll be cast from the group… he said that himself

[@theramblinmahoney2316]

I give this guy credit for actually having a humane conversation. He needs to grow a spine and think for himself though, you can tell that he lets others drag him to wherever he currently stands.

[@emmanuelginikanwa283]

And he needs to say no to drugs😊

[@jerdazzo]

"Respect existence or expect resistance" is actually a very clever slogan, which would apply much better to the existence of women.

[@greciadelgado21]

it’s incredibly alarming how they are literally brainwashed to lie

[@florenciaguarino5135]

He’s one step ahead of his peers by agreeing to this, he’s just a little confused

[@sug1733]

A little?

[@HasiramaSenju-sd9fl]

That's what happen when you put kids in "reeducation camp"

[@dylanschrom1230]

Dude literally described cult-like behavior and said it was therapy. That's so crazy. And it sounded so normal. I felt so sorry because he was sent there by his family. That was literally brainwash with a mask of therapy.

[@larryisdead429]

yeah i was there with him the whole place was you having to act/ conform to their "ideal person" was and if you didnt comply you'd be punished and even restrained/ put on protocol for SMALL things such as not getting out of bed ontime or even cursing it was dog 💩

[@cabun_copy]

Thats so concerning because he really is behaving just the way they intended. Its like they programmed him and he thinks exactly, like a copy paste. I'm fellow genz and this scares me because the fight will be between us tomorrow when the present adults are gone!

[@DJC3PO]

​@@cabun_copyread "1984" and "Animal farm" by George Orwell and start making causal connections. Good luck 👍

[@m.at.the.w.]

"I would get a consequence... " where ever he was, they were pro's at brainwashing..

[@Domak04]

Honestly kudos to this guy for having the guts to step forward and have a reasoned and respectful conversation! He didn’t interrupt, or throw around internet buzzwords. I hope he doesn’t face any backlash from the other liberal students, especially the friends who brought him to the protest!

[@TBDS1990]

"I don't have a problem with someone pretending to be something they're not." 3 seconds later.. "I can't relly speak on that because I'm not a woman." Dude, you just did speak on it.

[@TBDS1990]

"I don't identify as a woman." So because you don't identify as a woman, you can't speak for woman.. You realize that being born with a peñis and balls is your body literally identifying as a male from the moment they developed right?

[@smc8144]

Wow. Daniel, if you are reading this, you were brave enough to sit down and have an opposing view conversation with Michael. You are brave enough to sit down and have an opposing view conversation with your “friends”. You are obviously a kind, compassionate, and caring guy. Please understand that if you truly care about someone you will do what is in their best interest. Tell them the truth!

[@jillianbaker3260]

I don't want to share a bathroom with men who think they're women. the truth of the matter is they are not women

[@Damien-ry1ko]

Truly sad to see such a seemingly good guy having been brainwashed to believe false nonsense And of course being stuck in it because his entire social circle demands that he keeps prescribing to the idiocracies

[@bunille]

Bring back friendships which weren't just circlejerks.

[@robertmckinney9776]

This poor guy had his head filled with nonsense at his most vulnerable stage of life.

[@Jezzastaalman1]

The discussion was great, but the thing I admire most is that this guy was willing to have a civil conversation. We need more of this!!

[@angelicakaufman7183]

How am I supposed to come out of a bathroom stall and see a dude in there and inherently know whether or not he truly truly believes he's a woman inside? That doesn't make me safe

[@jugz9130]

lol yeah as a man it makes me cringe so hard

[@karenc2837]

Those are my thoughts. You can’t know if they believe or are just faking so they can have access to women. Total chaos.

[@faithbaasch4415]

Yeah and like with the sports you don't see women walking into the men's bathroom and when they're asked about it say..."oh dude I'm a man." "You have to accept that" 🤦‍♀️

[@angelicakaufman7183]

@@karenc2837 we'll see here's the thing as I logically know that there's a minority of people who would be doing it to get access to women. Far more likely it's just some entitled ass that thinks there's better amenities in there or is trying to avoid something in the men's room. And even if predatory is not the reason for them to be in our bathroom it doesn't mean that we're going to be comfortable with all the things inherent to maleness in there with us. And it doesn't mean he won't start looking or doing something creepy even if that wasn't the original intent

[@ncorp2668]

It wouldn't matter whether he believes it or not. A man is a man is a man...all day, every day.

[@WhereIsTheBourbon]

Respect to this guy but he’s twisting himself into a pretzel trying to please other people.

[@sigururolafsson2257]

Well said!!

[@MrMudslap]

It's because there is a camera, the "other" people will crucify him if he deviates from the cult narrative.

[@marlin3043]

This poor guy! His parents tried to do the right thing but were scammed by the company providing the therapy.. and Daniel was brainwashed I wonder if his parents are asking themselves.. what happened to Daniel? I hope this conversation brings some light to their relationship with their son ✝️

[@Womb_to_Tomb_Apologetics]

He said he's Jewish. Ya know there's an old Hebrew proverb: "Better is open rebuke than hidden love. Faithful are the wounds of a friend, but the kisses of an enemy are deceitful." Proverbs 27:5-6

[@Drummerchick2003]

He was taught to be a follower not a leader as a man. They metaphorically castrated him.

[@MyShadow2468]

Yup

[@graceniehaus]

We've all been propoganized, but this "camp" brainwashed him........😬 Yikes! Praying for him, seems so sweet & SO misguided. Scary mixture, they use our empathy against us!

[@geeboug]

Gay camp these days are to straight up make you gay

[@cindihunter9119]

Love is always based on TRUTH! Without it, there is nothing else to seek here...

[@mikedogbit2656]

Yeah those "therapy" places indoctrinating kids

[@plamenpenkov2865]

'They use our empathy against us' is one of the deepest, most truethful phrases, with one of the most profound consequences! It is pure truth!

[@HasiramaSenju-sd9fl]

South park: death camp of tolerance is from 2002, about 2 decades early from this reality

[@KingKoopa1]

Oversized Nirvana shirt, overpriced Nike shoes, weird moustache, and confused opinions... Definitely a gen Z.

[@stevek917]

Bottom line is this, who has more rights, 15 women in a lockreroom who don't want men in there with them? Or some guy playing make believe? Obviously the 15 women. Do these people not hear themselves?

[@baptist1644]

What about a women's right? "Well I am not a woman so I can't speak to that" He is also not a trans person but has no problem advocating for their rights.

[@sidwhiting665]

I wonder what he would say, "Doesn't a woman have a right to speak to that?" Knowles asked that question but didn't press him when he evaded it. Basically what Lefties logic boils down to is, "All people are equal, but some people are more equal than others." - Animal Farm

[@rtyria]

So I can only advocate for something which impacts me specifically in a specific way, but cannot advocate against a specific thing if it impacts me in a different specific way even if it harms me? Who decides what specific thing is acceptable and what is not? On what basis? How are they not tyrants for demanding conformity in such an underhanded way? It sounds insane and I suspect it is designed to promote insanity. Therefore I expect this to get much, much worse before any of it gets better - if society even can recover that is.

[@yhonatangoldberg4101]

I was saying the same thing! I wish Knowles responded with that

[@newmoon0928]

I caught that as well. My exact thought. I wish Knowles had caught it and called him on it.

[@BIG-BOWSER]

100%

[@Jdockery007]

"doesn't a woman have some right to reality?"

[@tidepride86]

not if it hurts the feelings of a dude pretending to be a chick

[@hyperteleXii]

or if it would hold her accountable for bad behavior

[@bustercellillidari5325]

What is a woman?

[@joonalehtinen8041]

That hit me🎯

[@meganluck4352]

@@hyperteleXii Every one should be held accountable for bad behavior. My concern is, when they talk about human rights, they leave out all the people who are biologically male or female. They completely disrespect us for being actual women and men as we were created and think that they deserve better treatment.

[@crashtestdummy2337]

This poor boy admitted to being brainwashed to deny his facilities of reason.

[@redredred1]

"I'm a black man. Do you believe that?" "Well.... I don't have any ancestry data.... and if I don't agree with you I get a consequence. I don't wanna get a consequence." It's like he's a mixture of a semi-functional college student and a 5 year old boy.

[@KMM61873]

This made me cry at the point where he said he was at that wilderness camp and if he didn’t agree with something he’d be punished. That’s really sad. It’s no different than what’s happening in regular life though where if you misgender someone you get cancelled or even worse go to jail.

[@JenniferoftheSea]

It's incredibly abusive. Isolating and punishing for not confirming to group think. What's next? Struggle sessions?

[@arsondarksea]

I was that way (T) for 24yrs & Jesus Christ set me free as soon as I fully believed in Him. He can do anything & change anybody! Jesus Christ is God and the only way to Heaven. Follow Him today!😊

[@raeannaroylance5401]

Testify! 🙌

[@Janieandtheboys17]

Congratulations!!! Amen ❤

[@k-ozdragon]

Glad you could learn to love yourself as you are. The current "movement" is more towards adhering to the social premise of the opposite sex, & is nothing more than a caricature. Our own innate biology influences our world greatly, & no amount of acting like something you are not can change the truth. You can embrace who you are, while admiring what you aren't. We all have strengths & weaknesses, & others will also admire your own unique powers that they do not possess. It's what makes life interesting.

[@TBDS1990]

"we're trying to throw everyone into a category of acceptance." There are views, opinions, beliefs, that i will never accept. I will never accept pedophilia. I will never accept rape. I will never accept bullying. These things are naturally wholly wrong. Anyone who thinks otherwise has never been on the recieving end of horrible acts like these.

[@Resell123]

"Respect Existence or Expect Resistance" Aren't these the same people who are anti-abortion... MAKE IT MAKE SENSE.

[@Nanerbeet]

When did society begin to expect each of us to validate the thoughts and feelings of everyone else?

[@hyperteleXii]

That's exactly what a mind virus would want from us, by the way. To be validated.

[@carolynesoucy6658]

It has been happening little by little over the decades. That line just kept being moved a little bit at a time and people simply didn't realize it was being moved. Now, people are actually confused about where the line between rational and non rational actually is.

[@MetaNavigator]

It’s the work of demons to convince people that they are above God

[@kursor52]

It's the kind thing to do. What most people say.

[@k-ozdragon]

It's utter insanity. People have many internal thoughts that are objectively bad. Both for themselves & society.

[@fitnessbearsmirnov17]

When he was losing the fight about "Why can't real women have their own spaces," he switched right over to Israel and human rights. Poor kid is very brainwashed.

[@DanielGurrera]

womp womp

[@tinahochstetler2189]

@fitnessbearsmirnov17 His answer to the question of women having any rights at all is always no, because he believes in human rights. He does not even see women as human. I wish Michael had called him on it. I pity that man for the brainwashing he went through. But it's disturbing that he and others like him are running loose in society.

[@jugz9130]

Not poor kid he looks pretty grown to me

[@gr33dyglutton]

Israel has nothing to do with transgenderism, he brings it up because it's like doctrine he has to subscribe to or become a pariah and so he lumps it all in together. Wokeness is a cult.

[@samwillard5688]

Kudos to this student! This is what a HEALTHY debate IS!

[@mookiethedoggy4368]

dont do drugs kids

[@nickwilliamson6726]

Sad. Being a yes man isn't being a good friend.

[@watchingthewheelsgoround260]

Good on him. The seeds are planted.

[@Publius106]

The guy that burned himself in front of the embassy wasn't a Marine. He was Air Force.

[@stephylynnpatch]

I think Michael planted some seeds tonight. He didn't want to concede but I believe something good will come of this for this young man.

[@peninagreenspan9878]

Amen!

[@gainsofglory6414]

Great conversation, he was very easy to listen to and spoke in good faith. Moral of this story is never send your kids to wilderness therapy in Utah.

[@raeannaroylance5401]

Moral of the story for me is to be the kind of mother and wife that enjoys the wilderness with my family.😅

[@Mannie.Simeon]

lolll he asked great questions

[@chrisb3892]

When he said, "I'm 21," I was expecting to hear glass breaking and Stone Cold Steve Austin music as Ben Shapiro walks out and asks, "Why aren't you 60?"

[@richardh7231]

Brave guy for going on stage. And clearly struggling with what he's been told as teenager growing up. Not easy to reverse it. Wish him the best

[@rebeccajohnson3402]

He cant speak on what women believe because he’s not a woman but he can speak on what trans women believe because…..?

[@kingsleyoji649]

They are marginalized and oppressed and anyone who claims such has experiential precedence in their worldview. Its the need to supplicate yourself to the weakest and most confused among you to justify and absolve all of the evil acts in the world which are the fault of the oppressors.

[@rebeccajohnson3402]

@@kingsleyoji649 What?

[@rtyria]

He can't speak on behalf of women because the same people who taught him what to say about trans beliefs do not believe women have a right to an opinion on this matter. They are only allowed to affirm the accepted narrative. Independent thinking will be punished.

[@Thexdmattx]

@@kingsleyoji649 What a bunch of gobbledygook.

[@calbar8793]

Because they his frans

[@jessicabodhaine6314]

I'm so glad people are willing to have these conversations. I know it took a lot for him to speak to Michael.

[@kellylott9296]

Respect to Daniel for having this conversation. Regardless of his beliefs, it was cool he met up and spoke

[@tigrouthetraveler5334]

Michael's patience with this poor little dude, who's been brainwashed, is commendable!

[@kirsty9572]

Nice guy, VERY naive. He's still in a stage where he has lots of friends around, goes to college surrounded by peers, etc. Yeah that shit changes when you get older. Friends aren't the center of your world anymore, and when that reality sets in for him, so will the truth.

[@abrareads]

That camp needs to be investigated!

[@mottgirl13]

lol.. yea .. “are you saying that camp is a lie?” Yes.. yes young man... You’ve been hoodwinked big time!

[@joshuab79]

What camp? there is no camp, if you keep talking about the camp, you’ll no longer be allowed at the camp ….!

[@leilav2976]

The admission that he was brainwashed in therapy, seriously seeming to believe that its was not only normal, but good, is insanity!

[@shauna3742]

He said he can't answer because he is not a woman, ask him what he'd feel if he had a daughter.

[@Rul_27]

Isn't it more disrespectful to assume that your loved ones aren't capable of withstanding honest criticism of them regarding their reality? Treating them as if they were kids.

[@kingsleyoji649]

They want to be treated as kids though.

[@Rul_27]

@@kingsleyoji649 True.

[@toddtravis2596]

It's not "their reality ". There's simply, reality.

[@derpderpderpPSN]

Imagine you’re Daniel’s friend and you are addicted to drugs. You ask him for help and instead of taking you to a rehab he brings you a giant bag of cocaine, meth, and fentanyl.

[@DanielGurrera]

brother i been to rehab terrible point LOL

[@chases3314]

Daniel would do that by how he described other things

[@Jonny-pl6qj]

People standing by their friend’s delusions is a huge reason why things are so screwed up

[@cheeky8015]

This poor man was sent to indoctrination camp

[@microsoftpain]

These videos are always some of my favorites from Knowles. More conversations need to be had instead of dunking on people all the time.

[@arsondarksea]

Ditto! God bless you in the name of Jesus Christ, who is the name above all names & the only way to Heaven❤

[@shaunkellison1761]

“… But, a lie you believe… Is that really a lie?” LMAO!!!!

[@SpeedyGoneFroglegs]

30 years ago George Costanza was comic genius, little did I know he was also prescient!

[@sidwhiting665]

"What is truth?" - Pontius Pilate "Did God really say you should not..." - The serpent As the writer of Ecclesiastes said, "There is nothing new under the sun." Self-delusion goes back to the dawn of humanity.

[@GodisthewaySU]

These people will question God’s existence and say “ theres no evidence or proof “ but want us to believe a whole male is a women WITH NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE! Make it make sense please.

[@skaterman8180]

The questions he’s asking shouldn’t even be questions. It’s pure insanity

[@upstatelynchmob]

This was so good. Pray for this young man.

[@raedorin979]

Oh my gosh. This guy is literally describing being forceably brainwashed as an adolescent. He got consequences for telling the truth!!!!

[@Mannie.Simeon]

so dystopian, reminds of "the ministry of truth" in Orwell's book; they tell lies and call it truth

[@jamesbennett5189]

Im glad Freddie Mercury found time to sit down with Michael Knowles.

[@ksturn6664]

😅

[@samapak7]

He needs a refund on that therapy.

[@dandwyer5491]

I wish you had asked him more specific questions to try and disabuse him of his relativism. Like “What if your friend wanted to kill the president to impress Jodie Foster? Would you back that truth?” Or “What if you friend was responsible for serial murders in New York at the behest of a demon taking the shape of a dog? Would you back that truth?”

[@brainchildguru]

Same. Like when the kid said he doesn’t identify as a woman so he can’t speak on their position on trans in bathrooms. So ask him why he identifies as a trans woman in this instance, but not the woman?

[@jeannestewart3636]

You can snip the snails and puppy dog tails, but it'll never make you a woman.

[@MrSophire]

True and adding sugar and spice will not make it every thing nice.

[@jonathanliddane4144]

A Eunuch is still a man :)

[@Celtic_Iron]

How are they intelligent enough to get into college ? It's like prepubescent levels of self awareness

[@grantstratton2239]

The whole conception of "your truth" and "my truth" really makes it impossible to have any conception of enabling bad behavior.

[@EdiGjon-yz3ek]

You're onto something good, keep it rolling

[@rosezingleman5007]

GK Chesterton said kindness leads to the cemetery. That’s what this guy Daniel is advocating. He thinks he’s helping them find their “truth” but it’s actual evil.

[@Ana_1980]

As the saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

[@Kirbykracklegirl]

@@Ana_1980Amen to that.

[@reliantncc1864]

I looked for the GK Chesterton quote, and I couldn't find it. If he said it, please let me know. I've read a lot of Chesterton.

[@lindse8922]

I feel for this student. He seems genuinely kind and is trying to be accepting of everyone as society tells us now that we have to accept how someone "identifies" and if we don't, we're cruel. He's buying the lie, which is sad. You can tell he's struggling to counter the truths that Michael Knowles is telling him. I respect him for stepping into this debate and doing so respectfully.

[@user-pj6mg9kf7e]

keep the kids safe from these lunatics

[@czikkanhardt4750]

He's 21? You kids are aging POORLY.

[@amusementevents4087]

😂😂

[@everykneeshallbowzao]

He looks 30 at least.

[@raphaelloferrer220]

Gen Z are overly exposed to blue light from phones and computers. A lot of research stated that blue light accelerates aging process.

[@everykneeshallbowzao]

He seems pretty mature with his thinking at some moments. Other moments he seems super confused about reality. He’s probably had a challenging life and maybe drugs.

[@michaelfranciotti3900]

He did admit he had drug problems. That shit adds mileage. A lot of kids these days are also depressed from social media.

[@emilys5024]

I have great respect for that young man that was willing to actually dialogue, unlike so very many that yell cliché mantras to others. Thank-you good sir!

[@goatitisful]

Daniel is a future conservative. He showed a shocking amount of tolerance towards opposing ideas. He probably lost a lot of friends just by having the conversation.

[@obi_onekenobi5322]

"Cross the Picket Line" is the Best idea any conservative Podcaster has ever come up with. It is a chance to have a civil dialogue and let both side actually understand where the other one is coming from. Hats off to Michael and his producers for coming up with this format,...and hats off to Daniel for having the courage and compassion to meet up face-to-face with Michael to have a civil discussion. Please have more of these!!!!

[@lordhoratio]

"He truly believes she is" ...

[@Mannie.Simeon]

He (truth) believes she (lies) is... the issue is precisely highlighted in this sentence

[@Vidya740]

Your identity is who you are. You can't "identify" as something you're not.

[@mrbigglezworth42]

Well that's clearly not true. The students are pushing an ideology that fundamentally believes that you can be things you're objectively not. Like a man identifying as a woman, for example.

[@Lethal_Bite]

The problem is that some parts of your identity can change. I can identify as a golf fan one month and then as a gamer the next. I can be atheist and then be converted. And that's valid. However I can't identify as 6'5" if I so choose. I'm 5'6" and that's just how it is. People are mixing up parts of their identity that are changeable and that aren't.

[@barbrothers2]

but if i dyed my hair blonde, then I'd be "identifying" as a blonde. it would, at that point, become part of my identity. I would be identified as, and described as as a blonde woman by other people who I encounter. their side has a lot of holes, but you absolutely can identify as something you are not. your own self identification matters to no one, what actually matters is how society perceive you.

[@Vidya740]

@@barbrothers2 That's a completely different scenario. You're talking about cosmetic alterations to your appearance, not your identity. Your identity consists of factual particulars about yourself. If you were asked to identify yourself, would you say, "I identify as a blonde"? You might say, "I'm a blonde Caucasian woman", in which case, you would be lying. But that aside, "identifying yourself", is different from saying, "I identify as...". You can't "identify" as anything. You're either that thing, or you aren't.

[@Lethal_Bite]

@@Vidya740 Nah, she said what I said in a different way. You absolutely can identify yourself, and your identity can change. Identity isn't set in stone. And blonde is a factual particular. And if your hair is dyed, are you lying by describing it as such? If I dye my hair purple, is it lying to say I'm a purple haired Caucasian? Everyone else would call me that. Your blanket statement has a lot of holes and needs revision. Perhaps gender and sex exist outside of identity? No matter what you identify as your sex is beyond identity?

[@raybojr1]

B: Buy L: Large M: Mansions

[@shottgunD]

Oh I just can't get over the fact there are still people wearing masks, outside.

[@manana5412]

"If your friend jumps off the bridge, would you do it too? " "It depends" 😧 The kind of question that until 2024 was easy to answer!!! What?!!! Naww man, heck no. What's happening to you guys in America ?

[@mcthunderstick2374]

There is such thing as too much freedom. A society must have some frame of reference to be objective and properly integrated. The freedom to do and believe whatever you want is dangerous when it hits extremes. This is modern America.

[@truthonly7699]

when i was a teenager, i had a lot of friends who got tattoos, did hard drugs, stole stuff, had sex with many people, colored their hair etc. I di not do those things and after a few years gave up those friends. It became easy to see they were not good people and many could not be trusted. What if i followed along and did all the same things, what kind of damage would that have caused me? I am glad i thought for myself.

[@marine296]

Parents aren't allowed to be parents anymore. If you don't affirm what your child comes home from school and says they identify as, the parents are demonized as bad people. Meanwhile, there are people in the education system telling children, whose minds are already susceptible to being molded, that gender is a social construct so they come home from school saying they think they're non binary and it spirals from there

[@sivad1025]

I thought it was a stupid question for Michael to ask and the kid proved me wrong with that twist ending

[@SaxSpy]

i watched this live. he was a polite guy, pretty chill. i think hes found himself in a spot where he has pressure from social circles. there were some parts cut at the request of the protester where he started to say stuff and didnt go anywhere and looked a little dumb (speaking on camera is hard) and then said can you cut that - which is fine. i think it was nice that michael didnt dunk on him when there were a lot of chances.

[@DanielGurrera]

thank you

[@natalievu4399]

​@@DanielGurrerawas that you in the interview? Love the shirt. I have a similar one. I saw Nirvana in NYC, in the 90's It was a great time. I really liked your discussion & hope you gave some thought to the things Michael said. Good luck!

[@chrystiafreelandscankles548]

Daniel, if this is YOU- PROPS for being willing to have a conversation. Take care!

[@DanielGurrera]

@@chrystiafreelandscankles548 it is me and thank you

[@craigrookie]

@@DanielGurrera Incredibly courageous conversation, Daniel. Truly. And a pleasure to watch. If you take one thing away from this experience, I hope it is this. - We, on the conservative side, are not the monsters they like to say we are. I wish you all the best.

[@Dirtdiver325]

I don't agree with the ways he sees things, however, props to this gentleman for stepping up and actually having a conversation. It was done in respect, with the best of intentions, and with curiosity.

[@tracyg2627]

Can't speak for a woman because he is not one...but can speak for trans? Such a weak, lazy argument. So if I see someone getting hurt, I can't speak on it or do anything about it unless I identify with that person? But kudos to him for sitting down and having a conversation.

[@ytmndan]

Daniel seems like an honest dude, and a good friend (other than supporting pointless martyrdom). But he needs better friends, and better mentors. He's not a lost cause. He deserves our prayers and support.