This is my favourite episode of Chilling Adventures of Sabrina
@alexanderhernandezdiaz66524 жыл бұрын
the one who plays Sabrina in the series is called kiernan shipka
@youngphenom30284 жыл бұрын
Lmaoo brooo😂😂 underrated so much
@markfanning7414 жыл бұрын
Alexander Hernandez 🤦🏻♂️
@Alxon793 жыл бұрын
Bro 💀
@pooryavalii92423 жыл бұрын
فاک یو
@Peter-lp7xi9 ай бұрын
Amazing channel! Would love to see some more interviews. Kora del rio. Brittney kade. Kimber james. Kimber lee. Lucylux. Love hearing all these beautiful ladies stories❤
@lsd3583 жыл бұрын
She's so honest and open and well down to earth. Plus beautiful with a funny nice postive personality.
@Hunkyger3 жыл бұрын
*he
@mihaicraciun86783 жыл бұрын
@@omnisystem6030 you re wrong. they have they/he listed as the preferred pronouns on twitter.
@sodiumchloride82732 жыл бұрын
She has a nice ass too
@buffkonradin2 жыл бұрын
@@mihaicraciun8678 LMAo
@Papa_Straight Жыл бұрын
@@mihaicraciun8678it's a dude
@deep___bot60444 жыл бұрын
I like how most comments still say she even tho they said they are non-binary big thonk
@qnote7294 жыл бұрын
deep___bot her insta bio states she uses she/they pronouns, just not male pronouns
@polifonikastudio3 жыл бұрын
@@qnote729 their Twitter bio says they use he/they so *they* is a good middle ground
@F_wan10 ай бұрын
She's taking about this very thing. She prefers she, as she understands that being feminine is in reality making her a she. At least when she's working. In the podcast 'they' present a very different personality.
@BillSchillaci4 жыл бұрын
Ella is so nonjudgmental and comes across as honest and sincere (and sweet of course!). I think I read that they would like to get out of their current line of work, but need the income. I hope they can be happy wherever the road takes them.
@nakmuay77055 ай бұрын
Honest and sincere? Well he's lying about his gender and he also doesn't tell people he's a pedophile. That's not me calling all trans people pedos because they're not. "Ella" is. Look it up.
@lorenzodeblock2 жыл бұрын
Ella Hollywood doesn't exist anymore. He changed his name to Jean Hollywood and regards himself as a femboy.
@My_Lacrimosa Жыл бұрын
He was always a man, chromosomes don't lie
@emmanueljames1329 Жыл бұрын
Jean-Luc Michelena
@TheSMR1969 Жыл бұрын
@@My_Lacrimosa gender identity is different from biological sex 🤦🏻
@Alex-fv2qs Жыл бұрын
@@NatalieMars-lj2de Seeing as he no longer goes by that name and used to have "not a woman" on his Twitter handle, I'd say it likely matters to him
@DonJohnson-x3r Жыл бұрын
They also didn't confess about their affinity for child pornography 😊
@johnmike1214 жыл бұрын
Ella is the best. What a classy gal, likable.
@Stanly-u6q5 ай бұрын
Это Мужик
@alcryton65152 жыл бұрын
She is so confident. I like that.
@sean91774 жыл бұрын
Straight guy saying she is hot, cute and nice
@damonmebane4105 жыл бұрын
Man she is super pretty
@cstodd43635 жыл бұрын
He
@Nintendont645 жыл бұрын
@@cstodd4363 You okay?
@con20275 жыл бұрын
>she Implying
@Henryduckfan635 жыл бұрын
Self sacrificial hero Neo nazi
@con20275 жыл бұрын
@@Henryduckfan63 Original, really cuts deep bro
@kachchannel_1584 Жыл бұрын
Whether she goes by Ella or Jean, she is absolutely beautiful and absolutely stunning. Happy new year.
@amlisvess67853 жыл бұрын
She is my first ever trans crush! Absolutely love her. I've seen a lot of transes before, but none of them as pretty to me as Ella. p.s. I'm all straight guy btw, and it's totally fine with me!
@babbisp12 жыл бұрын
@John Doe Really? So he/she identifies as a man? Do you have a reference you can direct me to?
@josearias23762 жыл бұрын
Totally normal phenomenon. Straight dominance of anything eith femenine traits
@GAY.MUHAMMAD12 жыл бұрын
Gay
@kadrick4446 Жыл бұрын
Which proves trans identity is a fantasy. Like some deep cosplay.
@Alex-fv2qs Жыл бұрын
Jean's nonbinary, in fact they've always ID'd as non-binary
@gamertime49494 жыл бұрын
okay all “stuff” aside shes legit a lovely person her twitch streams are amazing
@nirvanaguitar Жыл бұрын
I know he's not a she anymore, but I'd love to see Jean back on the show.
@matt_bln_yg Жыл бұрын
Can you explain to me the situation please ? Im lost
@nirvanaguitar Жыл бұрын
@@matt_bln_yg Ella is now Jean and is more of a gender fluid he/them. Still makes great porn though.
@ChefDansHookahАй бұрын
They are one of my favorites to watch. Seems like great people that likes what they like. Looking forward to the day they decide to do waist high pantyhose and heels content. Them, Natalie Mars and a few others are such a pleasure to watch. It is also very nice to just talk and learn about them. Thank you for the video!
@miklosmelion98815 жыл бұрын
My favorite trans. I love it. :)
@hollywoodcena6384 жыл бұрын
@Andrés Maximo Rojas me too
4 жыл бұрын
❤👌😘
@useratecuador2 жыл бұрын
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
@ANGELEstaban-d8n Жыл бұрын
I love mine too, what's more, I would like to marry her to spend my whole life with her, she is perfect, divine, an angel, and I dream of one day marrying her so that we can love each other throughout our lives
@joezilla101 Жыл бұрын
Damn pedos be getting love these days. I’m not making this up search up gigglyclown. I’m dead serious
@zrkons17774 жыл бұрын
The most beautiful trans ever!
@salintium3 жыл бұрын
Have you seen chanel Santini or abrey Kate. There are a few others I think are far more beautiful
@airpoc98043 жыл бұрын
@@salintium well, i cheked them and they not that cute to me as Ella
@amlisvess67853 жыл бұрын
@@airpoc9804 same
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
@@salintium Chanel Santini was stunning when she first started, all natural, beautiful, fit. Then she got implants, tatted up a lot more, and gained weight. Also overdoes the makeup. Aubrey Kate never did much for me. Too tatted up, huge overdone breasts, overdone stereotypical "trans" makeup. Ella has stayed scorching hot.
@MisterFull66915 ай бұрын
@@salintiumNathalie Mars
@madtiboysen53974 жыл бұрын
*beginning of interview* "I'm actually Non-binary, I use they/them pronouns" *everyone in this comment section* "she is beautiful" *every asshole* "He"
@techmarine834 жыл бұрын
It's a he. You can turn your genitalia inside out or have an addadicktome surgery and pump whatever hormones you want into yourself but DNA says XX or XY. Given what they were before this nonsense they will either NEVER have testicles producing sperm or ovaries and a uterus to carry a baby. This dude still has ALL of his man parts. For those wondering this is from a porn series called transconfessions.com so yeah...everyone is 100% sure HE still has a penis.
@Spiri7ualShi74 жыл бұрын
The fact she is trans indicates she TRANSITIONED from one gender to another. I can respect her female pronoun if she wants, but I don't believe in things such as "non-binary gender" and I won't pretend I do. To me human gender is related to sex, which is just binary.
@kheldaur21074 жыл бұрын
But he is a he.
@Spiri7ualShi74 жыл бұрын
@@kheldaur2107 So? I can respect if she wants to be a woman despite being born male, specially if she makes the effort of transitioning and getting female features. Of course you can think she is still not a female and you are not obligated to refer to her as such, it would surely be nice to her that you respect her decision though.
@Bellitchi2 жыл бұрын
This comment section is where your brain cells go to melt away lol it’s not even worth arguing.
@pandaland14 жыл бұрын
She’s a 10/10
@ergh993 жыл бұрын
This is fantastic content. Please improve the audio quality!
@BurningtunaDC11 ай бұрын
Absolutely cannot record audio with the built in mic of the camera or phone.
@nia2323 жыл бұрын
She's really pretty
@josefharvey56144 жыл бұрын
Ella is pretty cool. I'd support them as an artist (I hope I'm addressing them correctly, it's confusing)
@Patchw0rkx3 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love Ella.
@comvyx864 жыл бұрын
She always hard in every scenes😘❤️
@chronicle2434 жыл бұрын
he
@chronicle2434 жыл бұрын
@Construct Dawn the fact is, that he was born a dude, there is no changing that at all. quit lieing to yourselves
@jawatdennjonge98934 жыл бұрын
@Construct Dawn Youre wrong. As long as he has a dick i wont say she is a transgender or Female
@jawatdennjonge98934 жыл бұрын
@Construct Dawn Are you from the USA?
@jawatdennjonge98934 жыл бұрын
@Construct Dawn because you sound as stupid as your country is
@TrapMasterHoujou5 жыл бұрын
She's Wonderful
@emptiness25385 жыл бұрын
OMG she looks just like Kiernan Shipka!!!
@mattnsg134 жыл бұрын
She really is!
@galiciaspaceoddity27604 жыл бұрын
La actriz trans favorita por preferencia, sí! jodeeer💦😳🔥💗
@cristianamador22774 жыл бұрын
Quien es ella we??
@galiciaspaceoddity27604 жыл бұрын
Ella Hollywood
@Martin-cn3by4 жыл бұрын
le actor* es no vinario
@Edith.G.G.4 жыл бұрын
Junto con Nathaly Mars 🥰
@norrinRadd21493 жыл бұрын
Siempre me masturbo con sus vídeos es mi favorita la amo
@Fl0yd-5 жыл бұрын
4:20 Did I hear something ?
@Moulews5 жыл бұрын
Deady DeadSh0t theodd1sout?
@richardsimmons28865 ай бұрын
Luv your online videos they are amazing ❤❤❤❤
@lynette82995 жыл бұрын
3:41 lmfao she's so lovely
@Tixcizz5 жыл бұрын
Finally An interview with clothes on
@milesromanus70415 жыл бұрын
@@Tixcizz lmao
@coolmediaz35825 жыл бұрын
*he xd
@TheMrAdhitya3 ай бұрын
@@coolmediaz3582 looks female enough xddd
@carlborman51653 жыл бұрын
Gorgeous. You should post more please
@theta2delta6 күн бұрын
Ella deserves a better interviewer
@EllaHopkins-i5k2 ай бұрын
That is on of my best interview
@EdoardoLusuardi5 жыл бұрын
Wait, how old is she?
@fuseeon7275 жыл бұрын
20
@deadartist88274 жыл бұрын
Old enough
@EdoardoLusuardi4 жыл бұрын
@@deadartist8827 Put a dot at the end of the sentence, it will make you look smarter.
@PedroSoprano-x7d4 ай бұрын
Dude jimmy knew
@babbisp1 Жыл бұрын
He doesn't identify as a woman, and prefers he/they pronouns. Though he's still on HRT. From what I've heard
@jun013laconsay54 жыл бұрын
Beautiful Ella🤗
@wyyrdojim5 жыл бұрын
She was a cool kid in the A.V. Club?🤔 Southern California is different than when I was a kid!😹
@emmanueljames84044 жыл бұрын
She reminds me of a trans Renee Young!! 💚💜💚💜💚💜
@subscriberswithOnlyonevi-zm2ix4 жыл бұрын
Kieran shipka is more accurate
@SamantaUwU_97 Жыл бұрын
I love Jean 💕 such an inspiration ^×^
@capn2k6204 жыл бұрын
I didn't know Lena Kelly runs the interviews.
@virgiliopulido7058 Жыл бұрын
Ella Hollywood is another terrific,highly professional porn actress. My respects from Venezuela.
@Prodbysomari Жыл бұрын
hes a pedo
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
@@ProdbysomariNot really. The Clown is. Apparently they were into some weird hypno brainwash hardcore fantasy stuff and actually dipped when they saw what was happening on that server. That's actually coming from Turkey Tom.
@roberthipolito13514 жыл бұрын
both Ella & Lena make me question my sexuality
@DescendIntoTheAbsurd5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Lena Kelly doing the interview :)
@transconfessions37735 жыл бұрын
Good call :)
@DescendIntoTheAbsurd5 жыл бұрын
@@transconfessions3773 i'd give her the biggest hug. she's bloody lovely.
@tonyhalfast1615 жыл бұрын
Yes the interviewer is Lena Kelly , who is arguably the face of transgender porn.
@EllaHopkins-i5k2 ай бұрын
Yes
@NickCADA3 жыл бұрын
Ella you look gorgeous in that black dress. The perfect woman
It's crazy how they went from looking super feminine/pretty to looking like one of the boys.. lol I still watch the videos though no hate here.
@thekingoffilmmaking78532 жыл бұрын
she is a beautiful trans girl
@johnmike1214 жыл бұрын
She is my favorite
@ajogoz Жыл бұрын
Great performer but they always had equally masculine and feminine energy. The change wasn’t a surprise.
@chadtrickthereal4 жыл бұрын
I'm the 1000th like
@lucktanapah41463 жыл бұрын
She looks gorgeous 😍😍😻
@yourloveismyeuphoria85784 жыл бұрын
Les juro que me caso con ella 😔👊✨
@Martin-cn3by4 жыл бұрын
ellle
@Martin-cn3by4 жыл бұрын
y tiene pene
@GAY.MUHAMMAD12 жыл бұрын
Kind of gay
@onnnbbb Жыл бұрын
Can we also mention this animal is a proven child predator
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The Clown is. Apparently they were into some weird hypno brainwash hardcore fantasy stuff and actually dipped when they saw what was happening on that server. That's actually coming from Turkey Tom. Not saying I'm really personally in favour with that type of roleplay, I believe it's pathological to a certain extent, but in a case involving actual abuse and abuse material, in which they not only did they not partake, was never even "trustworthy" enough to be let in on the shady shit, and actually left that place when they believed that place was unhealthy (even without knowing about the factuality of the more hidden stuff), let's make a clear differentiation between roleplay which, even if fucked up, didn't abuse or wrong anyone in anyway and at best would warrant monitoring and not combative action, and actual abuse. Fantasy is fantasy, and people have the right to do it as long as they don't wrong anyone. Abuse is abuse. End of story.
@billyhunter14410 ай бұрын
@@Varkhal218nice cope
@Varkhal21810 ай бұрын
@@billyhunter144 cope about what, you moron? He didn't prey on anyone. To be a predator you have to prey on someone or something.
@Varkhal21810 ай бұрын
@@billyhunter144 cope about what? To be a predator you have to prey on someone or something.
@petazeta98537 ай бұрын
@@Varkhal218 groomer
@mitchellcrane98096 ай бұрын
Downfall of a sane society
@xThePrinceOfPeace2 жыл бұрын
Look at her eyes trying to roll to the back of her head, she got used before this video
@Bishidonscare2 жыл бұрын
What do you mean used
@ok-rf7fm2 жыл бұрын
@@Bishidonscare yk.....
@kbrewski1 Жыл бұрын
Huh??
@rpcarnell4 жыл бұрын
she is like an improved version of Kirsten Dunst.
@Gemma_Gee4 ай бұрын
Absolutely beautiful, inside and out. Off the scale cute 😍🥰❤
@cj_shortsongsforsocialmedia11 ай бұрын
She seems cool❤
@GabrielAstorga4 жыл бұрын
My favorite 🥰❤️
@GianniTati-pn5in4 ай бұрын
Sei positiva...sei una bellissima persona...nn solo fisicamente 👏😘
@LateNightSummerRain3 жыл бұрын
I love ella ❤️
@jonathanmkrtchyan7526 Жыл бұрын
Creepy what did Ella hollywood look like before the transformation was Ella a guy or a girl before I’m confused someone tell me I’m lost I don’t get lgbt people
@wolfgang65175 жыл бұрын
I ain't gay *but.............*
@renanlima92534 жыл бұрын
She is a woman
@skeletonfilms36504 жыл бұрын
@@renanlima9253 kinda
@renanlima92534 жыл бұрын
@@skeletonfilms3650 respect her please, she is a woman!
@skeletonfilms36504 жыл бұрын
Rmusic BR well yes but actually no
@mattnsg134 жыл бұрын
My straightness is being challenged now.
@andrzeju28134 жыл бұрын
Gdzie ona streamuje
@TheBaconBean1 Жыл бұрын
Kiddy diddler along with Chris Tyson
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The Clown is. Apparently they were into some weird hypno brainwash hardcore fantasy stuff and actually dipped when they saw what was happening on that server. That's actually coming from Turkey Tom. Also, what did Chris Tyson do, exactly?
@exeterd9 Жыл бұрын
@@Varkhal218youre just copy and pasting your reply as if it has any value, theres screenshots of this freak jean hollywood interacting with clown talking about corrupting minors
@Varkhal2189 ай бұрын
@@exeterd9 I'm copy pasting because I refuse to rewrite the same explanation and the same proof again and again. There's misconstrued proof about some sexual roleplay. Roleplay. Meaning sex fantasy stuff. They always maintained opposition to abuse, importance of consent etc. Never groomed or "introduced" anyone to porn. Was in a sex server until they felt something off was happening and left. Keep in mind Jean was never interested in any sort of abusive material, which was kept private between members of the server in any case, and was not communicated to him. So, again, what is your point?
@exeterd99 ай бұрын
@@Varkhal218 my point is that ella hollywood was involved in multiple group chats on twitter and discord involving the corruption of minors through porn which is highly illegal not to mention disgusting. He should be persecuted for trying to make children porn addicts and getting off to it sexually
@agkingdom6288 Жыл бұрын
was she a boy first or was she a girl?
@Alex-fv2qs Жыл бұрын
They're AMAB,
@howardhill33952 жыл бұрын
Very sweet, very lovely the guests you have.
@t3nosanfran8034 жыл бұрын
The "Interviewer" is horrible and/or is intimidated by this particular Interviewee and subject matter.
@capn2k6204 жыл бұрын
The interviewer is Lena Moon. Y'know, the transgender pornstar? They're co-workers
@ash73244 жыл бұрын
You're projecting, she does absolutely fine
@andread.g.51233 жыл бұрын
I love her....
@pielover-joe62904 жыл бұрын
These comments are more sad the more you read, there are some decent ones, but damn. It nice to get to know people like this
@robertoperez45663 жыл бұрын
Que linda es! ❤️
@migueltoro21804 жыл бұрын
i love ella hollywood !!!!!!!!!!!
@АльДан3 жыл бұрын
Somebody do Russian subtitles please! 🙏🙏🙏🤘😀
@elpzolero23 Жыл бұрын
I love her so much and she is so beautiful 😍 🤩
@novapoiint5 жыл бұрын
i wanna marry them
@michellesiregar82452 жыл бұрын
50 years ago ? How ?
@germanhell56635 жыл бұрын
Jean luc
@tenshiakuma-63883 жыл бұрын
Whats her instagram user
@XxxJALEBOBAHALxxX2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, He’s one of my Favorite Femboys. ❤❤❤
@rylairylai7434 жыл бұрын
omg , beautiful
@ryanforever900004 жыл бұрын
She’s very pretty. Although I assume she wouldn’t like me saying that
@vidarfernstedt88893 жыл бұрын
so am i the only one from the hub?
@snipes10003 жыл бұрын
Yes.
@gojilla38203 жыл бұрын
I hate my life. i'll never be as pretty as her
@S4IF6163 жыл бұрын
Ok
@ffuyui11423 жыл бұрын
Ok
@Heseys.113 жыл бұрын
Yeah... your nose...
@S4IF6163 жыл бұрын
Hit the gym and grow up your hair and beard you gonna look better trust me
@snipes10003 жыл бұрын
Ok
@fenix79063 жыл бұрын
красавица девочка
@ffuyui11423 жыл бұрын
У меня для тебя плохие новости....
@airpoc98043 жыл бұрын
@@ffuyui1142 хорошие)))
@skylined5534 Жыл бұрын
@@ffuyui1142 No news here, only news for you anyway 😂
@RealCutPlay4 жыл бұрын
Respect their pronouns! It won‘t hurt you
@deadartist88274 жыл бұрын
@wowalinbie lol that stupid bitch said respect them LMFAO
@carlosdelacadiz66583 жыл бұрын
Beautiful woman 😍.
@danielarias33264 жыл бұрын
Ella es tan hermosa
@Martin-cn3by4 жыл бұрын
y su pene tambien
@cbear44893 жыл бұрын
Very beautiful ella
@leonidasplavko72089 ай бұрын
Good and lovely actor, it's good to be bisexual so you can enjoy both worlds !
@jasoncampbell55563 жыл бұрын
Beautiful
@denishrovat3464 Жыл бұрын
Best Ella❤
@thomasc.belanger98934 жыл бұрын
Jean- Luc, You are Soo Loved by Soo many people, Thank You Soo much for being You.👍 FanTom USA
@岩倉玲音-o3r5 жыл бұрын
Cute White and the Seven Dwarfs
@karlee71203 жыл бұрын
Gah. I'm so inlove with her. 😍 And I'm a female girl 😍😍😍🥰🥰🥰🤤🤤🤤🤤😭😭😭😭
@kbrewski12 жыл бұрын
Hey Karlee, I'm crazy about Ella too. Can I ask, are you sexually attracted to Ella, would you have sex with her given the chance? Would it feel like being with another woman or with a man because of her "equipment"? I'm fascinated with that attraction.
@GAY.MUHAMMAD12 жыл бұрын
So? He's a man so nothing wrong
@mr_nobody_0003 жыл бұрын
god what a cutie pie
@Willowtree828 ай бұрын
Groomer
@nakmuay77055 ай бұрын
Thank you! The whole reason I'm here is because I found out hes a pedo.
@Redmist-se7ld Жыл бұрын
She’s beautiful and Daisy Taylor
@DonJohnson-x3r Жыл бұрын
Also a pedophile
@dozer1323 Жыл бұрын
This guy got exposed as a PDF File
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
Not really. The Clown is. Apparently they were into some weird hypno brainwash hardcore fantasy stuff and actually dipped when they saw what was happening on that server. That's actually coming from Turkey Tom.
@dozer1323 Жыл бұрын
@@Varkhal218 He literally is on the record saying he gets off on underage kids getting addicted to his prawnografy You're not being honest with yourself here.
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
@@dozer1323 yes, in the middle of a retarded, fucked up fetish sexting exchange (which I find to be, even as a sexting session, extremely pathological, and absolutely condemn it), with the other guy who IS a creep (a fact not known at the time). Clown also talked about how Jean supposedly "fucked him up good" with the porn in his youth despite the fact that Jean was actually younger than clown and would have been impossible for them to even make porn when Clown was a teen. Now to be clear, I am very disappointed by Jean, I don't condone it. I lost a lot of respect for him. If it was just loli/shota shit then it would be whatever, because it's not inherently fucked up (going with the premise that the default baseline focus is on youthfulness itself, not infantility -although, admittedly, a lot of loli/shota does tread into creepy territory), but it was at least willful engagement with a fucked up larp. At the same time, the timeline shows that they got out of there pretty quickly once they realised those people were not just discussing edgy sexual fantasies but were actual sickos, that they have always taken a stance against abuse and for consent etc. If you want to say that the larp itself was fucking stupid and fucked up, not in the good way, I would agree. But there are plenty of people who engage in similar fucked up fantasy scenarios like rape role playing without the intention of harming anyone. And I for one refuse to equate fucked up fantasy play with genuine abuse, precisely because of the gravity of what it entails. Jean engaged, as much as evidence shows, in the former, while Clown was clearly in the latter category. Guilt by association doesn't even work because it's not like they tolerated their shit, they cut off communication after he left the server as far as I am aware of. Mind you, just yesterday I have discovered all of this, but was familiar with Ella's/Jean's work for a while now. As for clown and the rest that participated in that, these are times that make me wish we would bring back torture and executions for shit like this. No one should be victimised. Edit: apparently even the sex roleplay, which in retrospect, people have a right to as long as they don't victimise others, was misconstrued. Jean was genuinely lied about and dragged through mud because of the abuse they didn't know about of which someone else was guilty.
@exeterd9 Жыл бұрын
@@Varkhal218 the cope is fucking unreal, jean is a confirmed pedophile
@Varkhal218 Жыл бұрын
@@exeterd9 confirmed pedophile as in how? Did they abuse anyone? Did they share abusive material? Did they encourage people to do shit? Did they express sexual attraction to children? Because what I saw in the most well-put video about the topic, made by a youtuber I don't even like, is that they engaged in some roleplay (that in my opinion was pathological, even if not actually hurting anyone, and I have personally lost a lot of respect for them for that); they were invited to a sex server, no big deal at face value; they weren't considered trustworthy enough by the people that were actually doing the fucked shit with any hint of something like that going on; and they themselves left when they felt that the place may actually be filled with something significantly worse than fucked up fantasy play. You want to condemn them for being into some pathological fantasy (while, being fair, was limited to just one of many non-serious scenarios, given that they care about consent), be my guest, I also am. But when false allegations are made about them being an abuser when no evidence for that exists, especially in a situation in which they were involved indirectly and unknowingly, I believe a clear line must be drawn.