Transfer beer from primary to secondary oxidation free. How to transfer beer to keg oxidation free

[@canadianbrewer]

Just kegged my lager this way after watching this video. I have had the orange cap and carbonator cap for a few years and never got around to using it. This was easy and a great method to eliminate oxygen from your finished beer. Thanks Brian. Cheers, Chris

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Awesome! Glad it worked out for you! Thanks for sharing your success! Cheers Chris! 👍🍻

[@travismarks1799]

What PSI did you use to rack from glass carboy to keg? I get nervous with anything over 2 psi in glass

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

About the same. I dont advise more than that either.. It's scary!! 👍🍻

[@HomeBrewingTV]

As always, great video. I'll try this again with lower pressure; it never even occurred to me that my carboy might explode! I'm one lucky fella...

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

No doubt! I am going to see about using this method with my speidel fermenters as well. I do seem to lose some aroma quickly in hoppier beers. Cheers Paul!

[@modgrip805]

Glad you mentioned this! Do the carboy hoods fit on the Speidel fermenters? I recently bought some 30L Speidel fermenters and want to reuse my old glass attachments if possible! Great videos!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

I will check and let you know.. I have 2 60L Speidels myself.. Cheers! 🍻

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Mod Grip are you on Instagram? I was able to get the "purple" cap to fit.. I will post a photo on my account. Shortcircuitedbrewer is how you find me.

[@ehowell46]

Works well! I just recently started transferring my beer this way. The nice thing is that it works without gravity. If you have a beer that you would prefer not to disturb, this method is amazing at minimizing the trub you would have stirred up by moving the primary.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Great! Have you noticed a difference in your beer? Thanks for watching and commenting! 🍻

[@kylekersting8641]

This method works very well for beer that has not been dry hopped. I may have missed it but can you give tips on how to transfer beer that has been heavily dry hopped, using this method?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

@@kylekersting8641 your best best is a filter like bouncer offers. They have multiple sizes..there are multiple videos on my channel.👍🍻

[@AndySoukup]

I just tried this out this weekend. I love it! I personally find this method attractive because it saves time. The wall paper tray is clutch!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

I totally agree Andy. It speeds things up with very little pressure. The wall paper tray is pretty sweet and cheap! Glad you found it helpful! Cheers! 🍻

[@jasonclick]

I've done transfers like this is the past with success. Good idea about using the carb cap and about purging the hose and vessel first.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Thanks Jason. It definitely isn't a new idea, just had a hard time finding any videos covering it. Thanks for watching. Cheers!

[@scottstoyan5379]

Great video thank you for the great tips. I am new to brewing so this is my go to from primary to secondary to keg

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Glad it was helpful!

[@JC-ig4xy]

Great video once again! Thinking of doing this with my next NEIPA batch. Could you tell me if this is the right process for beer to keg transferring? 1. Sanitize the keg with sanitized water. 2. Purge the water out with CO2 at two to three PSI through the IN of the keg. 3. Remove the keg cover, force more CO2 in to let all the oxygen out, since CO2 is heavier, oxygen will be forced out 4. Drop the racking cane into the beer and transfer the beer with CO2 Also would it be better if you didn't take the keg cover off and transferred the beer through the IN of the keg? Also What do I connect at the OUT when I am purging sanitized water out?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Leave the keg lid on. I would just open the pressure valve and transfer in via the out post and fill the keg from the bottom up. 👍🍻

[@scottstoyan5379]

So in your video you talked about just inserting the hose into the keg, can you attach attach the ball fitting to the liquid out line of the keg and fill from there as long as you unscrew the pressure relief valve? This seems like it would be a cleaner way to go

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Sure you can do that too. 🍻👍

[@christianbureau6732]

Great Video, just shares with my friends asking me this question all the time. Cheers!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Awesome Christian! Glad it helped! à votre santé!

[@mrjc12]

Wow!!! Never thought of this!!! I need to do this ASAP. I dont have a racking cane, is it possible to do this with the cane that comes with the plastic auto siphon?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Sure as long as it has a decent seal. 👍🍻

[@LostArkitekt]

Two things. First, I'm not sure if you are just doing this for the video, but it seems weird to sanitize everything and then let it touch surfaces and your hands. Next, if you put some sanitizer in a carboy and then put a 1/4" swivel fitting on the end of the racking tube, you can do the same trick with the keg, but run the sanitizer (first) through the LIQUID OUT post on the keg. Then, drop the black quick connect fitting in some sanitizer until you get ready to rack and rack through the liquid out tube in the keg, keeps from having to drop another tube in there and you can have the keg closed with just a PRV open to let the air/CO2 out.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

LostArkitekt sure that would work as well. Hands are sanitized as well. But I see your point 👍🍻

[@wichitasid]

if you add a liquid ball lock connect on the end of your siphon then you can rack to your keg without having to open the lid. Just put the prv in the open position and you should have little to no oxygen exposure.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Sid Taylor yep! Cover that in another transfer video I did after this one.

[@jiffypop2010]

couldn't you use a second racking cane and carboy cap for the secondary transfer to even further limit the amount of potential oxygen contamination?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Yes you sure could, you can also use a liquid "in" fitting on the keg and leave pressure relief valve open while transferring to keg. Depends on how far you want to go.. Great question. Cheers!

[@justinweber1111]

Great video. 2 questions because I want to try this method. First, does the C02 leak around the rubber cap? Second, how much C02 is used to complete the process based on a 10 lb C02 tank? Thanks!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

It will leak if you apply too much pressure. As far as how much is used, I'm really not certain. I don't think it is very much honestly. I have not weighed before and after. It works well though.. 👍🍻

[@perfectdarkzero9]

I have compressed Nitrogen readily available. Do you think this would work the same as the CO2?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Sure.. It might actually work better.. 👍🍻

[@TheBghunt]

Are you predominantly using glass carbouys for fermentation? What about 10 gallon batches have you any experience with SS bucket fermenter 14 gallon? I'm retiring in 4-5 months and want to get set up to do 10 gallon brews. Thanks Brian Hunt

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Since this video I've gotten away from the glass fermenters and use predominantly stainless now. The SA bucket is not a bad option. Anvil just announced a really affordable 14 gallon Conical fermenter with a bottom dump. 👍🍻

[@TheBghunt]

Are you going to be doing a review of the avil 14 gallon fermenter?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

I will be doing one of the 7 gallon but it is pretty much the exact same fermenter just bigger.👍🍻

[@RaymondMillbrae]

Good video. Question. Have you considered going to nitrogen? I’d be interested in hearing your perspective, lab results, and group testing comments, on the pros and cons of nitrogen.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Nitrogen to push beer? I have thought of using it for that. Have not thought of using it for transfer after fermentation. Do you know of any benefits? 👍🍻

[@RaymondMillbrae]

Short Circuited Brewers - Just thought if you were using nitrogen instead of CO2, that you would use it for transferring everything in a “closed system” as well. Just curious what you thought about nitrogen. I’m pretty new to home brewing, and I can get my hands on nitro tanks (and refills) for free. Thinking-our my new system before I start building it.

[@stevehilary435]

Hi, it’s interesting that you blow bubbles when finished transferring to secondary. I’ve always heard that splashing messes up the beer (from oxidation.) Since your getting the oxygen out, does it not mess the beer up?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

The bubbles are all co2 not oxygen.

[@stevehilary435]

@@ShortCircuitedBrewers that’s what I was thinking. Thanks for your response and video!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

👍🍻

[@Chrisbuildsstuff247]

Hi I’m a first time fermented me and my dad started the fermentation process of homemade cider in a plastic tube designed for fermentation it’s been about a week and a half is there any way to check the bucket cause it is not clear so how would I tell if it’s ready I have a racking cane and siphon tube but no co2 or the caves with two holes but I have a glass flask and it had a rubber bung what should I do

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Can you just crack open the lid?

[@Chrisbuildsstuff247]

Is it okay to do that will it oxygenate the cider I’m very knew to this this is my first batch ever

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Cider is not as susceptible to oxygenation as a beer with hops in it so you would be okay to pop the lid open and see if the fermentation is done without any adverse effects. Congratulations on your first journey into fermentation!

[@Chrisbuildsstuff247]

Short Circuited Brewers thanks so much I’m very excited to see how it turns out

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

No problem! Good luck! 👍🍻

[@dmmflys]

Always good info. Thank you

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

dmmflys You are welcome! Thanks fire watching! 🍻

[@OldNorsebrewery]

Very true and often forgotten.

[@Kberrysal]

would this process Be better if you did keg fermentation

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Absolutely Kendal. The principal is the same. The less you expose your finished beer to oxygen the better. Do you have a keg fermenter?

[@Kberrysal]

No I just seen a video of people using standard ball lock kegs to ferment in the only issue is it look like a big too much of a mess when you had the clear line to get the East out

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Yeah don't think I would use a ball lock keg for fermenting personally. 1/2 barrel sanke keg yes. Mike has a sanke fermenter and he likes it. may try to borrow for a NEIPA.. AND build a spunding valve to ferment under pressure.. hmm video idea! 😁

[@shadowrayz]

Good Video - Thanks, Brian! Cheers!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Thanks Brian!

[@johncspine2787]

Even without pushing the pressure, you can simply purge the carboy alone and rack to it. The small amount of O2 in the hose will be scavenged by the yeast.

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Yep you could do that. Many way to accomplish it. 👍🍻

[@ee2397]

Are you using a 3/8" or 1/2" racking cane?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

3/8" The amazing thing is with the positive pressure it goes almost as fast as my 1/2" auto siphon did.

[@ee2397]

Do you think the 1/2" racking cane would fit in the orange carboy cap or would it be too tight? I see morebeer sells both 3/8" and 1/2"

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

I doubt it would fit (without modification) you could modify the cap by cutting off the center stem and then drill a hole to fit the 1/2" racking cane. Then you could use that cap just for the transfer.

[@ee2397]

Thanks for your help! Cheers!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Any time!

[@FredrikDernebo]

Finally! 😎👍

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Fredrik.. Just for you.. lol

[@lemonjelly1969]

is there any reason you would need to use the carb cap? I've done it before with just putting the gas hose with no attachments over the carboy cap inlet. Also are you still planing on making a video about the Blichmann BeerGun?

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

This is not the only way to do it. there are many ways. I liked the barbs on the carb cap that made a secure connection. I have plans to do a review on the beergun at some point. I would like to get a hold of the new one to compare with the first model.

[@MSKChess]

so good! thanks so much :D

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Glad it helped!! Thanks for watching! Cheers! 🍻

[@ZmannR2]

Good tips but the best tip is not doing secondary at all

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

ZmannR2 that is true and I don't always transfer to secondary. I like to for dry hopping. Good way to transfer to keg though. Thanks for commenting! 🍻

[@dariusalexadru]

Soryy, this is not oxygen-free transfer, the beer from fermentor goes in a secondary fermentatio tank full of oxygen. Same in the proces of transfering to keg. Oxygen-free transfer means that never, never, beer meets air, but just CO2. But for that you need inox tanks, for primary fermantation, for secondary fermentation and, obviously, keg.

[@aldoseba]

Pressure is always positive(according to physics)

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Lol true!! Otherwise it is a vacuum!! Cheers! 👍🍻

[@mustafa1912]

I stir, shake aerate, see bubbles in hose and splash all the time and never once have I heard or tasted any complaints about oxidation or off flavors from my brews. this is a total myth. and if you think I'm wrong name a time when you had a ruined batch because of oxidation!

[@ShortCircuitedBrewers]

Plenty of times.And it is scientific fact oxygen does cause issues. Whether you can perceive it or not is entirely different.. It is not a myth.