Transferring Your Road Bike Fit To Your MTB | Tips and Tricks

[@blazacrew]

I run same saddle on of my bikes , helps with dialing the fit

[@ali4ne]

Thanks so much for this video, there has really been way too little quality content about XC MTB bikefitting

[@Lemond75]

Neill - you mentioned the effect that toe spring can have on pedalling dynamics, and I’ve read that heel drop can also do the same without any real explanation as to how or why. With different brands of cycling shoe offering more more or less toe spring and heel drop, would you be able to do a video to describe the effect of each, and how one might choose the most appropriate cycling shoe? Many thanks in advance and keep up the great work - love the videos.

[@chiefwarmpaws]

More vids on MTB setup would be interesting - never had major discomfort on a road bike, but get one numb hand on my MTB (don't really ride it enough to know where to start tinkering). PS Oiz is a mountain in the Basque region - one of those climbs with silly gradient that has been finish line for the Vuelta - that road is paved, but would not be surprised if a lot of mountain biking to be had in the area.

[@CycleXplorer]

Loved the level of detail. Thanks

[@PedalToProgress]

This came just in time! I have been getting calf cramps after swapping my MTB pedals for Road SPD-SL cleats! I think it isn’t a coincidence, my bike fit done in the MTB pedals is needing to be adjusted with the new pedal/cleat system

[@skilletb]

Neil, Love the slightly ocd way you tackle bike position. I suffered a decent back injury 4 years ago (walk with a cane) and am luckily able to ride a full suspension 2022 Trance for 30-40 mins without pain levels getting crazy high. I had a S Works Venge but sold 8t as I can’t get into that aggressive position anymore. I’ve been using flat pedals but am struggling with front knee pain and was wondering what spd pedals you would recommend for mtb. I’ll be in Vic next year so I will be dropping past.

[@davidbaxter3360]

How do you accommodate for the sag in the rear suspension to measuring seat height and setback?

[@stevecalland1]

The sag on the Oiz usually results in another 10mm increase in setback so that should be considered when setting it further fwd 👍

[@gregdurbala5970]

Thank you! Have been struggling with the difference in fit myself. The q factor difference is eye opening and may be my issue. Great video, thanks for sharing

[@betozanre3238]

Muito obrigado por esse conteúdo. Por gentileza, gostaria de umas dicas para gravel bike, quem sabe apareça uma por ai!

[@csax14]

What about a road fit vs a gravel bike fit?

[@keirenferguson6486]

Bout time boys ❤

[@Jpearse1]

Need to factor in rear suspension sag too, rear ends gonna drop when you sit on the bike

[@ductrung3993]

Hi Neill and Cam, could you please consider making a video on tips for disproportionate riders? I got fitted recently but it was tricky since i have a short femur and long torso, hence quite a forward over the handlebar position. Thank you

[@chrisridesbicycles]

Good one. Would be nice to hear something about bar width on the MTB. I usually measured the stance to the bottle bosses on the frame. Are they reliably in the center?

[@mikehhhhhhh]

I also suffer from chronic foot numbness on my road bike, seemingly aggravated by the cold. And similarly, it also goes away on my mountain bike no matter how cold it is!

[@OUTDOORS55]

Try midfoot cleat on road. Same thing happened to me. Switching to midfoot on road helped big time.

[@MrRubberbubber]

Great video what would u recommend for fit to cyclocross bike. Lots saying leave same as road bike some say 1 to 2cm lower. ? I had a pro fit in uk for my road bike but when I transfer to cx bike feels wrong. What would u suggest . Any help would be greatly appreciated thank you.

[@mat_from_ballarat]

Fascinating video! There seem to be so many compromises with mountain biking set up. Question regarding saddle setback - how much do you consider suspension sag when setting this; especially on a hardtail?

[@alvinnieves590]

The Orbea Oiz, pronounced O-ee-th. The Z in spanish (for Spain) has more of a th sound, as in "with". I have this bike the 2020 model. I usually call it the perfect bike as for me the fit so awesome, that I get on it and everything works well. So good I did a 24 hour solo race in it.

[@davidcarino6500]

Using same seat, same seat height ( no dropper post) same crank length, been riding for enough years plus with age knees are more touchy when going going hard.

[@gweflj]

Actually these days most XCO racers run their seat height dramatically lower than a road height. Some over 2cm lower. Look at Nino, he has something like a 30 degree bend in his leg. The reason being you often need to be able to move your body weight laterally to balance when seated climbing. This is one of the many ergonomic compromises you make on modern XCO bikes that don’t apply to road. I would highly recommend that chap sizes up in frame. The head angle is already steep relative to other XCO bikes on the Orbea. Not exactly confidence inspiring for the road rider trying XCO racing. Especially with a 120mm stem😳

[@Gufolicious]

I dont think he needs the advice of a internet nobody like you if he has neal at his side.

[@richeeg3271]

​@@Gufolicious Sorry, but this is a very foolish coment. Neal is a great bike fitter and biomechanics expert in regards to road cycling for sure, but he's not a very serious mountain biker. I definitely think opinions from experienced mountainbikers are very useful here.

[@Gufolicious]

@@richeeg3271 good luck basing your future purchases on advice out of a youtube comment section.

[@gweflj]

@@Gufolicious Yeah I've only been racing XC for 30 years🤣I bet I've raced more XCO and Enduro than Neil has raced road.

[@Naah732]

Nino is always conservative with his position . He still runs supper agressive front end for climbing which I'd argue starts to cause him problems on the decents

[@lastlapleader26]

I would love to see a video on how to transfer a road bike fit to a TT bike. I know you've mentioned the saddle should be slightly more forward and upward compared to the road bike in another video, but id love a more in-depth look, even if it is a bit niche...

[@p00kaju]

Hi. Thank you for great video. I'd like to know how tall Ryan is and what is OIZ frame size?

[@XurdeAst]

How can you transfer saddle meassurements whitout looking at suspension SAG? That height increasse and forward possition will be almost the same once you’re on the bike, it will be lower and back

[@matthewn3109]

Neil any suggestions for someone who has been dealing with ischial tuberosity pain, bilaterally but worse on the left on XC bikes? 3 different fits, multiple saddles and currently doing a PT directed strength program. Pain comes into the proximal hamstring and glute medius but sore feeling and skin irritation at the tuberosity.

[@lellinger]

Would sag affect saddle height/position here?

[@robertmcfadyen9156]

Yes .

[@interceptor7905]

It is interesting to see flat handlebar on this Orbea mtb

[@nickbu]

I wanted this

[@nationsnumber1chump]

great video! i need a laser level and a ruler!

[@mvdh05]

what about handlebar width?

[@SonnyDarvish]

Pro Stealth is so good that I have 2 of them on road and gravel

[@Hexsense]

The only way I can keep my bar to not be too high on a mountain bike is to utilize FSA SL-K Drop stem. Check that thing out. It has 20 degree angle natively plus more downward offset at the bar clamp. They do it this way (instead of going straight 40 degree drop) to provide head tube clearance. It does a really good job of lowering the bar to cancel out the excessive stack height of full suspension 29" fork for riders that aren't so tall.

[@mrthecarlosmelo]

Hi! You can buy cranks with 168 mm Q-factor instead of 174mm. Need to adapt the spacers of the bottom bracket or just buy a new one that is not very expensive (sram dub instead of dub WIDE). I use my cleats so that my foot pedal close to each other and feel much more power since it mimics much more my road bike pedal engagement. When you have the tendency to pedal more close to the frame, your adductors will always be active in order to push the legs to the inside. Big Q-factor for me is a big bulsh*t! I measure 1,9 meters by the way! Cheers!

[@Keule_from_Mars]

The 5mil less Q-Factor might actually make the cranks hit the chainstays on an Mtb. Thats why Roadcranks wont fit My Gravelbike.

[@mrthecarlosmelo]

It’s 6mm in fact, 3 on each side. Orbes oiz is not a problem. Most cases might not hit the frame I think

[@sugxi]

Yeah got t type axs and it's really a bother being forced to run 174. Eventually I'll have to get an xxsl crankset/pm

[@johnhunt3076]

How about bar width? Bars look to be wide.

[@adammckinney6850]

Do you ever come across cyclists that have morton's neuroma?

[@interceptor7905]

XCO means cross country?

[@wrwicky]

Yes, standard length races. They mentioned XCM as marathon as well

[@damianor6886]

Cross country Olympic distance, so XCO is around 1 hr racing time and marathon could be 3-6+ hours

[@interceptor7905]

@@damianor6886 Thank you.I can't keep up anymore.I used to do XC races

[@Charlie-sr6dv]

❤

[@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well]

When the bike fitter ain’t got no clue what it is to ride some mtb. 😂 fun to watch anyways.

[@Dustydayzz]

why dont you share your expertise

[@tvolkmeier]

Almost bought a OIZ. Pronounced. Ooooeeeeeth. As the sales guy was doing

[@TheWeirdoifyer]

Pretty sure Dylan Jawnson would like to see some drop bars on there too

[@wrwicky]

Both are highly trained athletes with good flexibility and aero awareness

[@tjb8841]

…And the cranks have a different a factor. Edit, I see you get to that later. You hadn’t listed it to begin.

[@larsthorderson423]

Give us a track bike fit compared to a road bike.