Transformers Cybertron VS Siege Galaxy Upgrade Leader Optimus Prime | Old VS New #7

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[@captainsinclair7954]

If Hasbro does a Re-issue of the Cybertron figures, I’m getting Cybertron Prime. I feel like Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime was the Appetizer before the main course.

[@Jcc2224]

I doubt Hasbro will, but there's a good chance Takara may end up doing it.

[@gladio8204]

Captain Sinclair I think the Earthrise or Siege Hound apparently teases Hot Shot’s Cybertron Patrol (gis armored truck mode from later in the series) apparently? There’s a chance.

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

that would be amazing, I feel like the cybertron toyline was peak character and toy design in terms of transformers toyline though that might be the nostalgia talking

[@davidvasquez08]

I want a Jetfire Cybertron rerelease

[@PlushieEnjoyer]

I want megatron

[@jeremyfilbert7232]

When the siege cybertron announced i was so happy since i can’t get my hands on the old leader cybertron, but man the old one was so much better, more ratchet joints, no fake cab, more robust plastics, no fake wheel, easily go for the old one if you can hunt em down

[@Jcc2224]

I would say plastic feels just as good on both figures, but I certainly see your other issues.

[@BeanNBudBear]

I'm lucky enough to have one from my childhood when it first came out. All he's missing is his pistol and the missiles. I wanna get the siege version to have em duke it out and compare them. Also cuz it looks cool as hell

[@NoahR_]

OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER

[@optimistprime3192]

To save them and the galaxy, we must find the four Cyber Planet Keys before the Decepticons can use them for evil!

[@DJ_WAHTZ]

*IT IS OUR MISSION*

[@optimistprime3192]

HOT SHOT! JETFIRE! VECTOR PRIME! LANDMINE! SCATTERSHOT! OPTIMUS PRIME! *_TRANSFORM AND ROLL OUT!!_*

[@bumblebricks3669]

@@DJ_WAHTZ Hi :v

[@DJ_WAHTZ]

Bumblebricks ! Oh supp dude I remember you

[@jeff-mv5up]

Wow, was gonna buy the siege figure thinking it was the same. Personally prefer the original, tracking it down is hard.

[@michaeldickson6858]

It's going to be at least 100 dollars, maybe a little bit under 100. Never mind, for brand new you are going to have to pay 250-300 dollars.

[@OmegaEnvych]

One of my friends got original one in 2011 on ebay for $1 (ONE FREAKIN' US DOLLAR). He was SO lucky. Even for 2011 that toy was so awesome and I still love it to this day. One of best Optimus Prime toys IMO

[@stevenjordan3839]

It is hard to make up ones mind with what you want him to be, is the line’s astrotrain better at helping a person make up their mind with what they want their prime to turn into?

[@chrisedwards9424]

@@OmegaEnvych I just got the base figure without the wing pack for $20! I’ve always been wanting the figure in any way but it’s always so expensive. I got really lucky with eBay lmao

[@Lingeringwill13]

@@chrisedwards9424 ME TOO ($25) I’m buying the trailer at a later date but he looks so great even without the trailer that I don’t mind waiting

[@Jase583]

What would make Siege Upgrade Optimus worth having is if Hasbro released a Wing Saber that joined onto him just like the original 2 did.

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

Though both are good in their own ways.

[@joshmontemayor1212]

Don't forget Leobreaker. Optimus also combined with Leobreaker for Savage Claw Mode.

[@spider-man4531]

I think the old Prime works better at what its trying to do (Wings/armor gimmick etc) but the siege version works a little better with looks ect in my opinion Nice video by the way Jcc👊

[@xero1782]

Siege version my opinion just makes him look even more clunky and big and its wierd..

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

The cheapness of the hollow cannons kills it for me

[@frenchfriedbagel7035]

WDYM? Base Galaxy Upgrade looks awful compared to the original. He only looks good in super mode.

[@zae5pm]

While you are flipping the wing into super track mode, I heard a transforming sound :) That was epic! @15:51

[@sonegeku3362]

Maybe do a leader prime vs masterpiece prime from the movies

[@MarcoLibor]

Yes, i also figure out how to transform a transformer toy without instructions because its kinda fun and it like makes you remember how you transformed it instead of looking at the confusing instructions. (btw love your vids, keep it up)

[@DarthDeuces]

Wasn't sure if I was gonna get the new Cybertron Optimus but I'm pretty tempted if I can find it. It's kinda interesting that in the new IDW comic continuity they are using the design of the non-armored Seige version as the design for Orion Pax.

[@shardsoftime0952]

I am going to get him because of that

[@MateoPotatoReviews]

This is easily gonna be my next Siege pick up. I’ve been very “pick and choose” with the line (for both my and my fiancé’s sake 😂) but this guy was also my childhood prime (after Armada prime) and Id really love him in my collection. Awesome old vs new man!

[@mixedtrafficproductions9371]

The original Cybertron Prime’s transformation is accually accurate to the show

[@TheTurnipKing]

...that's because the show was quite literally a toy commercial. The stock footage transformation/combination sequences were virtually only there to show you how to transform the toys. They're DAMN lucky the soundtrack was so good ( kzbin.info/www/bejne/goqbpmmNdsx8n9k )

[@SandyTheTryhard]

Siege's head is absolutely badass one of the best designs though i still prefer the WFC optimus head

[@gamingguru2k6]

Optimal Optimus was my childhood Optimus. I love that they remade some of the old versions of Optimus. I kind of wish I had the money for this Optimus. Cybertron Optimus is pretty cool.

[@jamescm38]

Not sure the origin of the Galaxy Upgrade Prime but I love the influences I see in it. I see G1 Prime Toy with the Double Rifles retooled as the under rifles, the wing reference Power Master Optimus Prime and partial reference to Optimal Optimus. Seemed like a generational upgrade all around creating its own identity.

[@Jcc2224]

Maybe the original Cybertron/Galaxy Force Optimus had all those inspirations, but the Siege Galaxy Upgrade is just straight up inspired by the G1 Prime toy and the Cybertron Leader I compare it with.

[@phillipmarcus8416]

Just wanted to point out that the torso on prime slides further forward for vehicle mode. It has an audible click into the right position, and then the arms will fit better too

[@xero1782]

Honestly now I kinda wish you could still find Cybertron stuff on the market...reeeeaaaally wanted prime as a kid lol

[@DESTRAKON]

Dude yours is in wayyyy better condition than mine

[@dr.ongobongo5448]

God now I want a new cybertron megatron figure

[@dakotakidd8383]

YESSSSSSSssssssss!

[@gabrielgaming1102]

Y E S

[@Barbariandisks]

There are two upgrade kits for this figure, one of which comes with longer legs to make him taller, and gap fillers for the super mode weapons

[@Doc51499]

Imho the new one is just too small to be a good replacement

[@robertschulz1234]

I don't know. I think his look was inspired from the Judge Dred movie with Stallone.

[@cgmardle]

That’s where I’ve seen it before! Not quite the same but I remember that style around the front.

[@vesuviustitanus4006]

Jcc2224 lives by the Tim Allen rule, 'Real Men Don't Read Instructions!'

[@PixelzNcreatureZ]

I was away from transformers from g2 till prime wars so I missed EVERYTHING in between. When the Siege one came out I didn't know what it was and passed him up. A couple years later I saw one on clearance at Target (when Kingdom was starting.. Maybe he was under a shelf all that time, lol) this was a cool comparison to watch

[@sumireko8159]

19:20 These Lines just described my whole childhood with Transformers

[@AwesomeMooseSmile]

I think this is definitely one of the examples where the old one obliterates the new one, but that's not to say that the new one is bad by any means, it's actually really cool and good, it's just that..... well it's cybertron optimus prime, one of the greatest Transformers ever made.

[@The_Bionicle_Nerd]

You my friend Have Earned a Sub This was amazing!

[@everyghoul]

Came to see if I would 100% get the new one, now I’m getting that one and the old one! While the new one has a really beautiful presentation the old one just has *presence*

[@eriknewland3686]

But can he do...SAVAGE CLAW MODE?

[@josefinasalinas9555]

I never had the original figure of Cybertron Optimus Prime since I was introduced to the Transformers brand when the 2007 live action movie came but when the leader class galaxy upgrade Optimus Prime came out I couldn’t resist the urge to buy him since I love the Unicron Trilogy and awhile back I bought the trilogy on dvd.

[@nelg70]

It's nice to see others use their Primes. My 2005 Cybertron prime model is still sitting pretty, sealed in it's box since purchase. I'm so tempted to break it open and have a play lol. 👍

[@SpookwaveGOA125]

DNA Design made a kit for the Siege one to give him better legs

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

And have four wheels in the front and two in the back like the original.

[@BeanNBudBear]

Also I find it comforting and hilarious that other people also had trouble pulling the Matrix of Leadership from Prime's chest lol

[@mikeydavid4500]

He should do an old vs new with the original optimal optimus and the power of the primes optimal optimus

[@DJ_WAHTZ]

Nice optimus impression

[@twitchgemini5819]

I love being able to find these videos and see just how many people i can relate to when i say that this figure was a big part of my childhood. Unfortunately i lost mine years ago and am trying to find a new one.

[@rodimuzprime6957]

That happen to me too

[@joshmontemayor1212]

I have the Takara version of Cybertron Optimus. He's only missing the missles, but everything else is present & accounted for.

[@omegapapuvenom8281]

i don't speak in inglish but you videos it's amazing

[@TheVileOne]

Yeah they've definitely shrunken the Transformers classes. It started becoming really noticeable with the Fall of Cybertron deluxe figures when the second game came out.

[@Jcc2224]

It's funny, they shrunk TF size in 2012, brought it back up to about normal in 2015, and now since Studio Series/Siege they shrunk it again.

[@4390BigBoss]

Armada was where I got my start with transformers but when I saw a new unicron trilogy figure in 2019 I had to have it.

[@TheBlackShinigami]

I would love a cybertron Optimus Prime keep kit thats stylized and uses the head design from the write that head design is SICK! I never had cybertron Optimus prime as a kid and would love one just to have on a shelf, by far my favorite Optimus prime design of the unicron trilogy and the cartoons!

[@brianherrera5631]

I have the siege Galaxy upgrade Optimus prime

[@caffeinedelusions]

The cab of the Siege truck CAN slide forward from where you have it... but I'm undecided on whether or not it looks better with the cab back, because it almost creates the impression that the 'fists' are bigger that way.

[@killianadams4779]

I have the black version, but it was a hand-me down, so I don't have the heels for supermode, his gun or key. So a very incomplete set, but I still love it.

[@TFfangeek]

BEYOND FANTASTIC REVIEW JCC2224!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Cybertron Optimus Prime is my favorite version of him from the Unicron Trilogy and the new Siege Leader Class toy is an amazing update. :D Thank you for comparing the two toys with each other, since I have not seen this yet with any other review. :D Keep up the outstanding work you do, Double Thumb's Up. ;D

[@baltterivottas1098]

The old one is my entire childhood

[@chadderbug7587]

Now that I have the NX 'Magnus, it's kinda shocking how much they remolded this guy.

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

Netflix Magnus?

[@chadderbug7587]

@@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779 Yep

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

@@chadderbug7587 unfortunately my rung broke but my Netflix Magnus is intact

[@jtHardrockerover]

I remember getting Optimus Prime Cybertron to

[@puffpuffpassmako]

Tracked the original down and it is by far, the best optimus. The removable face plate, the height, the play features. Its just a pure, fun toy for play and collecting (yes I played with this, I've wanted this guy since I was a child). Siege one is good, but the original just knocks it out of the park. Its exactly how I think optimus should be

[@TheTurnipKing]

Cybertron Prime is in every way that matters, like some kind of hybrid of Star Convoy and Powermaster Optimus Prime/Super Ginrai And even manages to work in the Fire Truck alt mode of Car Robots.

[@bleppyboo5969]

I love the siege one. Honestly I don't mind the cab because I'm just thinking, it's on Cybertron, there's no need for a disguise, but also, the cab can fit two titan masters inside. So you can basically have a little Optimus Prime mech

[@browneye010]

This was my favorite optimus and now hes lost in the attic along with omega supreme and primus 😢

[@griffinkimball2454]

I will day, comparing them as 2 leaders seems a touch unfair to me. Modern leaders seem more like Cybertron ultras like Jetfire to me. The old leaders seem more comparable to the WFC trilogy commander classes

[@claytonreeve69]

I can see a Legacy Commander Cybertron Prime since we are getting a commander Armada Prime later this year

[@davidvasquez08]

I actually still have the old Cybertron Prime, lost the a few parts(fortunately I didn’t lose the main parts), and Red Alert(preCybertron Defense team)

[@josephadriancajucom7236]

I love the old one it's so awesome

[@PlushieEnjoyer]

*OUR WORLDS ARE IN DANGER INTENSIFIES*

[@RobinSwede]

Lmao when i was a kid i put firecrackers in his chest and blew his window off

[@dexterdexter8208]

I wish I got my hands of either of these. There is a friggin' 16 to 2 years release of both of them, so of course they are now expensive on the aftermarket.

[@_V.Va_]

I've seen a couple on Mercari.

[@logiprime]

There’s a toy store near me that has the og cybertron prime and I plan on buying it once I get the change

[@vynonyoutube1418]

OUR WOLRDS ARE IN DANGER

[@jeebus2313]

Honestly wouldn't mind seeing Galaxy Upgrade Prime get another release in Legacy. It'd fit in pretty much perfectly with the theme of the line and I missed out on the original Siege release so.

[@Jcc2224]

If they do it would be cool if they repainted it black and red like the repaint from the old Cybertron release!

[@aweirdredtoad3637]

Well, we are getting Armada characters so it might not be so far of a thought that we may get Energon and Cybertron characters. I would love to see a Tidelwave, Demolisher and Sideways in Legacy.

[@joshmontemayor1212]

Believe it or not, Cybertron was my introduction to the Transformers franchise.

[@Jcc2224]

Same here! Cybertron introduced me, the 2007 movie reinforced it, but I fell out of TFs until 2012 with Transformers Prime, been hooked ever since!

[@joshmontemayor1212]

@@Jcc2224, I remember watching Cybertron every morning on Cartoon Network before school. Garry Chalk did a pretty good job as Optimus.

[@Rusty-vq6rv]

I just bought the old one for $15 .....a steal!!

[@Ravenfellblade]

I think you forgot to slide Siege Galaxy Upgrade Prime's cab forward in truck mode. It was left in the robot mode position.

[@noahbrockett2875]

I learned a lot of things about the original Cybertron Prime that I never knew even though I have one

[@joshmontemayor1212]

I have the Takara version of both Optimus & Wing Saber.

[@kaillentackett6172]

the arm peices can stay on the front bumper in robot mode

[@NearingLight]

I like options more then features so personally I'd have to go with the new one though I will admit the old one is inherently better presentation wise

[@sonicsaiyan07]

My Cybertron Optimus is missing his gun and on of his fire truck lights is broken, but I still have the Key and the other Missiles

[@rollin-kimblecroskey9110]

I still have my Cybertron Leader Prime as well. I haven't bothered getting the Siege Galaxy Upgrade Prime (yet) because I'm waiting for the price to go down!

[@garretthoare2453]

Pretty good Optimus Prime impression just a tip from a fanbase representative less Bayverse more real Optimus Prime. Because that's the Optimus Prime us real mofo's know and love. Not the murderous Fakeimus Prime the bayverse keeps trying to pass off as the true Autobot Commander.

[@9ALiTY]

Old one is Bigger & Better

[@CAD_GEEK]

Cybertron OP is awesome. I also have him. I got the Costco Exclusive package with Wingsaber to combine into SonicWing mode.

[@SourRobo8364]

I foolishly gave mine to my nephews.

[@FrostSoul-qs6kq]

The guns on seige Optimus are missing inner parts XD

[@trulythelongestnameinthisc8779]

They are borrowed from Ultra Magnus, whose double black blasters were also hollow. Unless you are talking about the silver ones.

[@GatoPerroReviews]

I literally got my interest for transformers back last thurday may 23rd by buying my first siege optimus prime, my favorite and first cartoon was the cybertron show. And now I find their making a siege version of that optimus , it's like it was meant to be or something or a huge coincidence. How did you get this early ?

[@Jcc2224]

That's awesome! You're jumping back into Transformers at a GREAT time, the Siege line is an amazing start! This figure is trickling out into stores and I found mine at Walmart, but it doesn't ship online for a while.

[@GatoPerroReviews]

@@Jcc2224 ah makes sense I should get my own soon then. Yeah in the past 3 days alone I bought the siege soundwave, megatron, and the bumblebee movie optimus prime.

[@JONNYSORENSEN_AU]

Thanks for the comprehensive comparison. I really like both toys but both are selling for very high prices (well beyond RRP etc even loose). I was a fool for not picking up the old hasbro leader optimus a few years back for a boxed price that is now the loose price (eg nothing under $150 AUD)

[@Morphgeek]

12:42 "To what ever taste you prefer" In regards to which optimus crotch you prefer the taste of.

[@shardsoftime0952]

Non armored siege kinda reminds me of WFC (2010) original character model ,funny that IDW used this version instead of normal siege

[@superroboted]

The original is still leagues better over the Siege version

[@_Riad_Haj]

At first I thought the smaller one was the original and the bigger one was the new one

[@MidnightVCoco]

cybertron optimus was the best transformers toy PERIOD. 3 modes and the final mode was bad ass, also leader class was $40 back in the day now its $60 - $70, for price inflation they should be 53, WHERE THE OTHER 7 FROM

[@cartkart1]

I saw a cybertron prime at a toy shop but he’s missing those big grey arm thingies?

[@taqresu5865]

Honestly, I don't remember much about Transformers Cybertron. I remember the premise about the old Cyberplanet keys and I do remember loving Optimus Prime's Super mode and vehicle mode. I never got the toy, I had Primus (and a sleek green and black Autobot that looked like WheelJack), but not Optimus Prime. I think I had a friend who owned the figure, because I remember transforming it with my own hands (and yes it was fun without the Instructions). So when I saw Siege Galaxy Upgrade Optimus Prime, I had to buy it. Is it as good as the original... not really. But to give credit where credit is due, they did more than just retool Ultra Magnus, the entire backpack assembly is full of new molds, and works a bit differently. As someone who doesn't own the original Cybertron Optimus Prime, I like that they at least made an effort to represent Transformers Cybertron. They didn't have to Remake this guy in a different toy line, but they did.

[@spadesplays8249]

The transformation seemed harder for the galaxy upgrade because it was your first time sure you hadn’t transformed the original cybertron figure in some time but there is a difference.

[@rickfd6081]

I like your reviews and your right instructions are dumb definitely subscribing 👍👌

[@ReaIbentIey]

GREAT REVIEW DEFINITELY GETTING THE NEW ONE! VERY COOL!

[@Hchris101]

Cool robots

[@BushidoBrownSama]

THS-01 also has hanles on the super mode guns

[@Jcc2224]

I kinda totally forgot about that thing.

[@LegendaryAntiHero]

Do you have the Takara version with better paint and wings don't break off?

[@Jcc2224]

Nah, just my childhood one!

[@TheTurnipKing]

TBF, the backpack is hollow for a reason: It's to hide his arms in Combination modes.

[@Jcc2224]

OOOOooh yeah you right you right. lol

[@B1PFilms]

Figuring out how to transform a figure without instructions can be cool... but risky My battle blades bumblebee door wing snapped when I made the wrong move while figuring it out. Ever since then I will always read instruction. But I will make exceptions in regards of an old figure with good quality plastic or doesn’t give me instruction to begin with

[@hexedcrab]

honestly I would say that despite being almost the same toy this is better than magnus in ever single way

[@ryoku4980]

This optimus prime is stronger than any other optimus! Wish i had the toy tho..💔

[@Spartana498]

@Bendy Spinel I remember watching a video that said that they are comparable to each other

[@ordinarynobody1022]

I LOVE Transformers Cybetron. I watched it as a kid. But back then I can’t get the original toy because it’s really hard to find in third world country But I can get the Siege Galaxy Convoy now, I’m happy Armada trilogy got some attention from Hasbro. And it’s a good representation of my childhood. Kinda wish it came with the other as well like Leobreaker, but it’s a good toy nonetheless.

[@miketate3445]

You missed a large transformation step. On 2019 prime, slide the truck cab forward to be flush with the bumper. The entire truck will be better.

[@Jcc2224]

oh no

[@GamerMinilla]

The backpack on the normal robot mode for Siege Optimus looks a lot less ugly if you put the grill part of the truck mode on it (aka the arm guards for the super mode). Still not perfect (really shouldn't have a backpack at all but whaddya do), but definitely an aesthetic improvement.

[@gleamingcolt]

The old one is Better. (Personally) Also I read the instructions, since I really, REALLY. Don’t want to break my figures. Well mostly, Seige prime was easy to transform, but for masterpiece figures, OH I’m breaking out those instructions as I am not breaking a 400 dollars figure

[@andrewmartin4387]

I can't find a siege anywhere

[@Jcc2224]

Check Target, they're getting in a lot of these!

[@andrewmartin4387]

@@Jcc2224 it will be a bit of a drive but I will look

[@FlixFear204]

I don’t read instructions eaither your not alone bud

[@BeanNBudBear]

Holy crap I had no idea it was so small compared to the original wth

[@_V.Va_]

The old one looks better but the new one is very space efficient…