Transformers Media 4 Dummies

[@jasonking9503]

I love that last collage. Optimus Prime, Luke Skywalker, Batman, and Jesus. Lol All the great marketing gimmicks.

[@fraser7211]

"Are you pumped to see Bumblebee 2?" **remembers first 15 minutes of the movie** Me: If more of that......HELL....YES!

[@EvilCerealBoX]

If you haven't already, look for a re-dub/re-mastered of the bumblebee with G1 music. You won't be disappointed.

[@edwinyi7064]

I agree if they do a full movie with the Transformers and no humans that would be so awesome.

[@lofutofu6477]

I’d say let Studio TRIGGER make a transformers anime, they have shown more than enough interest in the brand. Some of their designers have been designing most of the Flame Toys stuff.

[@fraser7211]

War For Cybertron/Fall of Cybertron DESERVED much more attention than it was given. I'm currently catching up on the Planet X Dinobots, and i played the shit out of the games and still go back to them now. They will always have a special place in my heart, especially because they let me play as Grimlock, and as Bruticus.

[@Dokken1975]

God yes Bobby, you had an excellent idea about them bridging the G1 gap from season two into the movie.

[@robertban871]

that is a cool idea, but you'd still be ending with season 3 and 4 as they currently are and i dont have a problem with jumping forward in time like that. i'd prefer an updated re-telling of the G1 series, maybe with that gap filled in better

[@AgtWashingtub]

100% the Transformers can carry their own movies! I was shouting from the rooftops about that in 2007. Hopefully we can start moving that needle a bit more than Bee did. But the bayverse was the tipping point from Didneys Cars to Transformers in my house. So to help me accept that its not for me, without those movies my kids probably dont care about transformers.

[@shaejohnston6339]

Love the 4 dummies. Great episode! I absolutely love the IDW comics, especially the lost light adventures and if there was ever a "DC style" animated film of some of those adventures/missions I just have to believe they would be successful.

[@android131c]

i want Netflix Siege to be an actual war series, w/ the autobots pinned down, & Sideswipe & Ironhide as a sniper team. & show how Kup, Hot Rod, Arcee, Blur, Springer, get left behind while tied up in a battle w/Ratbat, Pounce, Wingspan, & Sixshot

[@robertban871]

can Cliffjumper tag along and be the sniper tho?

[@android131c]

Robert Ban haha yep, i forgot he snipes, red team snipers

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

I *LOVE* the idea of a season 2.5 set between 1986 and 2005. I've been thinking about doing a fan comic set in this period. I'm really intrigued by the origin of Autobot city, and what happened to all the characters in this time period. Presumably most of the Autobots on Decepticon occupied Cybertron fled to Earth (which accounts for all the characters with cybertronian alt modes) or are in hiding/ fighting a guerilla war.

[@SeanWhitmore]

I don't know that I'd want to see a whole show about it, but I'm SHOCKED there hasn't been a Season 2.5 comic mini yet.

[@TheSmashingLad]

IKR!!!

[@donborracho3019]

YES!!! I have begged for years to have a series that covers the 20 years in between season #2 and the movie. Why does Megatron take Devi to Autobot city? Why does Scrapper say? "We form Devastator, the most powerful robot." When we know there are other combiners? I need an explanation. Plus it would be great to see the incarnation of Blaster's tapes.

[@drewlovelyhell4892]

Well it took two years to make the movie, so all the season 2 characters hadn't been released yet.

[@StrongFreExalted]

I want a cybertron based movie like the cutscenes in bumblebee. If they do a full movie like that this franchise will slowly rise again because it seems thats what literally everyone i know wants

[@luchajon8480]

Season 2.5 is what we've needed for a long time. There's unlimited potential to expand the S1/S2 characters we love, shine spotlights on the lesser featured S3 characters, weave in characters from the Japanese G1 and even throw in some brand new characters and concepts.

[@albineigengrau3212]

Comparable to the DC animated route, I wish they would take a cue from how the Japanese approach their old mecha properties like Gundam or Macross: do a regular reboot for the kids every few years, yes, but also keep on releasing high-quality OAVs (direct-to-video movies and/or miniseries) in the original continuity and with the original aesthetic for the older fans. If we could just have one 45 minutes episode of the Transformers with the storytelling and visual quality of something like Gundam The Origin or Macross Plus, I'd already be perfectly happy.

[@TheCandymannnn]

It's funny cause me and my buddy were just talking about this a couple days ago and we were coming to the same conclusion. It does seem to be a shame that the people in charge can't seem to get a good grip and what the franchise needs to grow and renew itself to the next generation of fans. I will say I'm still curious to see what the siege series is suppose to be like since I had heard RoosterTeeth will be doing it and they did RWBY which is a good series and their newest series GenLock( which did have big robots in it) was solid in story if not a little retro in it's choice of animation style. Another important and great piece of content for us to sink our teeth into.

[@DisinterestedParty]

Season 2.5 is an amazing idea! Git 'er done!

[@ahchiu9]

Interesting that one of Jisk's go-to cartoon examples was The Boondocks. Seems an odd choice even though I loved that cartoon.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

I LOVE the g1 season 2.5 idea!

[@robin2thek]

Cool talk.

[@Toopassive]

Hasbro relies on the same three year cycle for their toys and animated shows that most company's use; If they want a long running line/series they have to plan it out from the onset to mature with the audience like the Clone Wars series did, while sprinkling in episodes that attract a younger age group allowing them to gain interest in the fandom along the way.

[@williamhays7356]

I'd binge-watch Transformers

[@astartespete]

Plus one to being a G1 er who loved the idw characters too. I would love to see a g1 season 2.5 with some of the idw cast g1'd, that could be really special.

[@botindisguys6531]

ooooooo the gap between season 2 and the movie is GENIUS!!!

[@itsahostiletakeover]

A cartoon about the IDW Wreckers or the Lost Light would be awesome, even if they were just 10-15 minute episodes. Even the early IDW Furman "Ism" series would be cool in that format too.

[@StrongFreExalted]

Also 2 more amazing tranaformers games on console would get people interested again because almost everyone plays videogames nowadays too

[@adamclay2161]

I would totally be down for a modern animated transformers series. Modern animation techniques, modern attention to detail, in a IDW style.

[@GhostRider-870]

A G1 season 2.5 bridging the gap between season 2 and the movie would be right on the money. Explaining what happened to alot of characters that didn't end up in the movie, like what happened to Sparkplug and others. Make it aimed at adults progressing to the same level of violence from the movie. Put it on Amazon.

[@Ricardo-Cruz-Gomez]

I would support season 2.5 so hard!

[@kalron27]

You mentioned War For\Fall Of Cybertron game series. If you consider that media, they need to continue that story line properly and move to Earth. That would be a wonderful way to revisit Season 1 of G1. Each level could represent an episode of the cartoon, with cut scenes based off of the animation cells. Not exactly a new cartoon series but a unique way to reinterpret the G1 cartoon.

[@aviatordanz]

I don't think your right about Hasbro not having there pulse on IDW. They just revealed a target master of Rung. I think they just don't know the HOW of doing IDW.

[@JONNYSORENSEN_AU]

The continuity that Rung was in has finished, and the story of when he was relevant started several years ago. Its not at all now like it was during older generations toys where we got loads of great toys based on IDW style art / bots. IDW is almost forgotten about, it's an afterthought - and the comics quality has really gone downhill with the current comics being so overly commercial and really not engaging at all. Hasbro's "brand unification" strategy across all types of media over last couple years has been clumsy and just downright ugly imo. In the current line up, they make the comics art look like the toys! Warts and all, its just backwards.

[@adamclay2161]

Guys, Voltron looked damn good. Who wouldn't want to see an Optimus and Megs fight in that style?

[@EvilCerealBoX]

2:33 Agreed - Grain and grit like the un-remastered version had. Makes it worth seeing. I can't enjoy watching the re-mastered version of '86 movie like the original VHS/DVD was.

[@Truepheng]

Why have they chosen not to tap into the readily available stories from IDW? Because maybe... the execs haven't even looked at the synopses of those stories. Those stories might not even have reached the pitching stage.

[@Truepheng]

As long time fans, we know there are plenty of good stories ripe for adaptation. But the execs are almost always people who know nothing about the available material. They handle numerous IPs simultaneously and look at labels before allowing themselves to be pitched. Those who pitch to them are well aware that for an IP expected to be for children's toys, the execs would immediately dismiss anything labelled "adult-oriented". Hence, the pitchers wouldn't even bring it up during the discussion.

[@richardburns1698]

Shout out for the cerebral Jesus cameo.

[@Cyril29a]

Media has become the toy in many ways. Since the DVD people have been collecting media and watching and rewatching at home, add to that videogames and I can envision generations of children who have no interest in physical toys at all. The interesting bit to me is how the world of nostalgia will look in 25 years when today's children 10 and under get to that age where the nostalgia kicks in, what will it look like seeing as they had far fewer physical objects and far far more digital experiences. It will be interesting to see

[@cadeawesomeface]

I really feel like the point of the humans in the movies isn't for relatability but more for the sake of having some of the scenes not cost $100,000 a second cuz every character on screen is cgi animated

[@doro626]

You guys made me think of a joke where decepticons in the background change colors, but Starscream calls them out on it. Like they are doing it on purpose to mock him. I would be interested is an Animation that is drawn like the old G1 and is a fill between S2 and the movie. Just dont add any kids other than daniel and no more humans beside Spike, Carly Chip Chase, Spark plug, and maybe the few tag along humans who didn't catch on like Rio and the rich woman Astoria. In the background that news reporter Hector Ramirez could mention the fall of Cobra ( which gives us Old Snake eventually).

[@dannycarrion8160]

Hasbro is coming around i think, they have the G1 reissues in stores they gave us an 80s themed movie and now the masterpiece that are coming out are toon accurate or close to it, maybe a cartoon or series is in the works

[@Leinadcpr]

Hey dummies: A really good series that I considered in my opinion pretty close to G1 was Transformers Prime. I suggest that as a continuity, they should do side stories like Rouge One, Solo with characters or teams like Starscream and Jetfire, The Reckers like Skull said, The Primes, The Golden Age, Arcee and Tailgate, etc.

[@finnickrinzler8907]

I agree. We need a G1 TF season 2 Volumes 3&4.

[@Nightbeat26]

Well I guess we'll see how this Netflix series turns out that is coming out next year.

[@PerverseMilk]

I'd reboot the movies. Things i would do: Everything leads to the arrival of unicron at earth. All spark is an anti unicron weapon built by the original primes. Megatron dies as he does in the first movie. Going to Egypt is fine, but i'd make it so its the resting place of alpha trion, who exiled himself to earth to study a back up plan to defeat unicron aka the matrix. Dinobots would be introduced as his guardians. Make it so there are multiple primes commanding their own units of autobots all across the galaxy, this would allow for the introduction of rodimus, second movie ends with galvatron killing optimus and taking the matrix, allowing unicron to come to earth and destroy the primes. Third movie is just about rodimus primes attempt to get the matrix back and revive optimus, his crew, the 86 movie cast now rebranded as the wreckers, succeed, unicron lands on earth wrecking house, final battle between galvatron and optimus takes place, with optimus convincing him to break free of unicrons control, becoming megatron once again and plunging both himself and the matrix into unicrons spark. Oh and for that to make sense, we would go with IDW origins megatron as a back story...

[@2dbeats3d]

I’ve been spouting this for years, if they’d make a show catered towards adults, it’d make a killing. As long as it doesn’t get too overboard with the adult tone. Like to where it’s just nonsensical killing, cursing, and what not. Personally, my dream team would be studio TRIGGER. Since transformers has played such a big role in most of the senior staff, it’d only make sense for them to do it. To add even more fuel to the fire, TRIGGER has even been doing designs for FlameToys and one their recent works titled SSSS.Gridman was filled with a bunch of references to transformers. Including G1 and mostly Shattered Glass

[@nickw3132]

I hope someone makes masterpiece transformers of the wfc siege aesthetic. They probably will because I have this feeling the Netflix show is gonna be a hit. And I’m sure a 3rd party company can do masterpiece figures for those.

[@rjohnson80100]

I liked the BB movie. It is at least going back to more of its G1 roots. I want a whole movie of the cybertron war though. I have high hope for BB 2 or the Optimus standalone they want to do.

[@craigtaubert3779]

Thank you! We don't need humans to carry a transformers story. They can carry it themselves. Watch Megatron and prime over films go to war with each other.

[@ericboyer5335]

They should make a transformer anthology series with horror/thriller elements in it.

[@brantlisk786]

I don’t get why a lot of G1 fans don’t like the Transformers Prime and Beast Wars series?? I’m a G1 kid/fan, and I love them!! Those 3 are my fav Transformers series.

[@XSwordStoneX]

I'm a fan of the movies and I'm excited about Bumblebee 2 But I wouldn't mind a change of direction...a WFC live action movie would be incredible

[@cybertronianexchange595]

Glad I am not the only one that feels the 20 year gap between season 2 and the movie is a missed opportunity. Though I would like to see it done in an animation style more like Thundercats and Masters of the Universe. I have always felt the G1 animation was lacking and it cost more for hand drawn cell animation than it does for computer.

[@carlsommerfeld3207]

Hand drawn animation all the way. Young adults base. Even how young justice was more adult themed. Idw movies would be great

[@darkjedv0]

My thoughts exactly.

[@jamesgaultier2949]

I quit reading when Hasbro got heavy handed around the "thrilling 30" I tried to stick around for both books but once All Hail Optimus started i was out. One thing i would like in a hand drawn series is a deeper wealth of characters. you can start small but if you have a war you're going to need soldiers. we need that big cast and not the smaller squad based like Prime, Animates, BW, etc

[@AXILA666]

After Beast Wars to me it seemed like the Unicron trilogy started making the media/toys more "kid friendly" in design and aesthetic. I feel like it's damaging to make the design so juvenile because it makes it easier for someone to outgrow it and move on to something else. Prime was a real truck. Megatron a real gun. Primal a real Gorilla. Beast Megs an inaccurate featherless/purple TRex but still realistic in design.... then take everything after that. designs became round big eyed stubby and unrealistic.

[@peterwong8499]

I was hoping that hasbro would reanimating the g1 series using the takara masterpiece. Although some of the stories need to be slightly improve. To me, that's the best way to market their toys effectively. They could even consider arbitrage the other 3rd party toylines.

[@Xsis_Vorok]

I've been wanting a G1 remake for a long time now. You can keep the stories or change them, just fix the animation and continuity errors, explain how S2 characters arrived on Earth, what happened between S2 and the movie, and for the love of Primus! Don't make them dumb as rocks. This is a race that has mastered space travel, and yet, they can't program a VCR!

[@moloko912]

I love this show (from france)

[@alphach1mp]

Netflix should fund 5 seasons for G1 Transformers.

[@CayeDaws]

Please stop it with the g1.

[@Kmation]

When it comes to the number of fans that would watch a new transformers animated series, are you taken in account for the large amount of overseas fans that exist? I’m sure that number would be higher if you count Europe, Australia and parts of Asia.

[@Prime-gu8xw]

I’m gonna have to disagree with a couple of things here. 1. Super hyped for a bumblebee sequel, I think if they lean fully into the aesthetic and characterization set up in that film, we could get something impressive onscreen for transformers fans 2. There are two series post beast wars that had an impact on their generation, the first being the Unicron trilogy, which an increasing number of the “core fans” were introduced to the franchise with (including myself). The second being animated. A lot of the younger core fan base (late teens) that aren’t as into say toy collecting, or the original cartoon, and instead focus on things like art, or cosplay, were brought in with animated and then moved on to the post death of Optimus Prime IDW series.

[@7tgm23]

If you CANT sit through a movie without falling asleep maybe you need to see your doctor and ask about sleep apnea.

[@45breal]

Without the voice of Christopher Collins G1 Transformers & G.I. Joe will never be the same. I wish they would have used the Starscream G1 voice cuts in the Transformers: Devastation game not having the authentic old school Chris Collins voice honestly killed my interest in the game even though I believe it was a well done G1 game.

[@nestronicalnet7620]

Make season 2 1/2, have the GI Joe crossover we wanted, then make a GI Joe sequel show. Im not a fan of GI Joe and don't know if it came to a great conclusion or if fans want it but they could make a decepticon that comes from that crossover stay in season 2 1/2.

[@doro626]

There was a short "movie" called G.I. Joe resolute. It was a semi mature version of GI Joe. Check it out.

[@TrypticOwen]

I very much agree with the overwhelming majority of this. HeMan 200X and Thundercats 2010 were both great and I'd love a Transformers series like them. However, let's not forget that both of these series failed at the halfway point with their stories incomplete. Voltron is this decade's HeMan 200X/Thundercats 2010. It seemed to struggle over the finish line with a lot of the later seasons coming in the form of more half-length series rather than fewer full-length series. Nonetheless it did reach the finish line. The difference between these two series, in my opinion, is Netflix. HeMan and Thundercats both failed in the toy aisle; Voltron was well into series 3 before toys were even released. It seems to me that access to a global audience allows a minority interest nerd property to muster enough of a profit for the cartoon to be successful in its own right. I worry whether Rooster Teeth can do for Transformers what Dreamworks did for Voltron, though. Also, let's give Hasbro some credit. The properties we're comparing to - HeMan, Thundercats, Voltron, etc... - haven't had a significant presence in the toy aisle since the eighties. In the UK, there have been Transformers for sale in toy shops non-stop since '84. :-) What would I do? Transformers: The Movie II. Same style - including the rock music interludes. Put it out like Batman The Killing Joke - limited cinema release if possible but mainly straight-to-blu-ray and see how well it does. How expensive can an hour and a half be?...

[@ArionRDAW]

Animated version of Kiss Players. Search your feelings you know it to be true...

[@android131c]

even my non TF fan buddies want the 86 movie remade. i thought Prime Wars Trilogy was alright, not enough characters onscreen though

[@Mechanic618]

I won't be interested in a new toon simply because I don't want to be bombarded by identity politics and social "justice" plotlines and characters that are all the rage these days. Call me when that fad passes.

[@CayeDaws]

I hate it that people like you are in this fan base.

[@CayeDaws]

@@supersonicmario56 I excepted that shit if it comes from a gamers mouth, but when a transformers fan says that anti sjw shit, I automatically place you on the same level as an average 30 year old male Little pony fan.

[@CayeDaws]

@@supersonicmario56 get that shit out of here and make sure to close the door on the way out.

[@supersonicmario56]

@@CayeDaws Well, if you're going to get that worked up over a comment then maybe you should be the one to take your shit out of here . . . Just sit there and ignore these problems, they're only going to get worse.

[@nickw3132]

Problem with transformers media is hasbro tries to sale toys. But when writers who are passionate about the characters and love transformers u have things such as transformers Prime (which is an amazing show) and the idw comics. Media like this focus on character and story rather than toys.

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

So did seasons 1 and 2 of the original G1 cartoon. Talk to the writers and actors of that show. Go to a Transformers con where they have Q. and A.s with the writers and the actors. They didn't care 1 bit about the toys and just made what they thought was the best show they could. That's why the characters personalities were very different from the toy bios.

[@nickw3132]

Jason Chastain and that’s why G1 is magical. I didn’t grow up on G1 (but I love the movie and watched most of the episodes) but I can tell most of the episodes had passion into them. (And thanks for correcting me I forgot about G1). Point is the common public transformers are seen as robots that turn into vehicles. But if done right, it could as much success as Star Wars. Not to say it’s not successful but transformers has so much potential that hasn’t been show to the fullest (besides TF Prime and IDW and WFC, FOC)

[@anthonycourt7977]

I would love a last stand movie. I think we need too get away from g1 stories. Have stories like prime and beast wars idw had the best stories l say will season 1 of g1 was okay

[@HowVeryOdd]

Personally, I don't care if it's hand drawn, computer generated or carved into the pavement. Just give us a transformers movie that focuses on the transformers. They have strong enough personalities for us to relate to them, so why even have the human element. Let's get back to cybertron for the movie Bumblebee should have been

[@dimondskyable]

kids are into watching people play roblox. games is the way for exposure. I myself play the mobile earth wars game and thats where simon furman continues and revisits stories. as for cartoon, if it gets done cgi is the way for bots to be. its easier to create one character and pop em on screen while having a life person do the motions for the on screen. hard to recomend tv since I dont watch it nor my kids unless its youtube or netflix cant say ill take time to sit and watch at a specific time.

[@BKTCharlie]

The main reason why merchandise doesn't sell like it once did and it never will again -- Gaming. Esports is huge and it going to grow by double digits every year in the next 5 to 10 years. Transformers, toys, etc can not compete with the time, money and attention gaming has on this generation and the generation coming behind it. Simple as that. Any new TF media will do fine but nothing that tips the scales nor will it have a major impact on kids.

[@STN3050]

Transformers need better media. I have always wanted to see Hasbro do the DC style one shot movies. I don't get why they don't more media. The reason most people love Transformers is from the media. There is only a good TF show every 10 years G1 - BW - Prime

[@chojinacd]

I don t think the humans are the probprm indeed, but they should be a sidekick, not the main characters. Live action should be heavily g1 inspired, have ANY character development true to g1 and, i ve been thinking a lot about this, the transformers should have fkin faces! A face would go a long way in bonding and actually seeing a character instead of a hunk of moving metal parts.

[@LapisBlock]

I feel like you guys definitely underestimate the impact of the movies. I grew up with Beast Wars, RID 2001, Unicron Trilogy and G1 thanks to my father. I fell out of the series nearing my pre-teen years and was brought back in with ROTF, looking back yeah the movies are pretty bad, but they obviously made a lot of money and had a good impact on the franchise. I'd say the IDW had a lot of impact with fans of the franchise, but i'm not really sure if it reached out and got new people in like the movies did.

[@RID01S]

Transformers Prime is the best !

[@thousandwolves952]

Go full manga style for asian market starting with diaclone computer generated anime than add Autobot n Decepticons.... Than english dub after Transformers universe is implemented

[@Windcharger]

I don't think it would make any economical sense for Hasbro to produce cartoons on discontinued toys like G1 Season 2.5. What Hasbro is not doing well, and we all know this, is the story telling aspect of their franchise. From the Combiner Wars trilogy to the Bayverse movie, they are just lousy at story telling. Now we know that a good cartoon can be made aka TF Prime and that was a binge-worthy series. What Hasbro needs to do is to make sure the media for the Generations/CHUG stuff comes out almost as quick as the toys themselves, just like what they do for the movie-verse. What Hasbro can do to really get the new generation of kids into the toys and the media is to make the cartoons when the toys are made... make the cartoon episodes have cliffhangers... the kids need to buy the toys and then they can unlock these characters and then end the cartoon episode in a variety of ways on their iPad or whatever using AR. Now that would be freaking awesome.

[@Levi_52_336]

To be honest, not many people really care about Transformers, more people care about Power Rangers, Superheroes, Star Wars, etc. *Idea* Year 1 - Season 1/2 Year 2 - Movie 1 Year 3 - Season 3/4 Year 4 - Movie 2 And so on

[@AdamLloydJohnson]

There you go getting all philosophical again! - “There are archetypes within these characters, there’s something about them that speaks to something primal, the same way that a lot of famous stories do that we keep telling ourselves over and over again.” I’m the philosophy professor, who’s also a Christian, that told you about my PhD dissertation last month. Your comment makes me wonder if you’re into the Jungian psychology that Jordan Peterson has made popular again. Jung was hitting on something correct with his archetypal theory, which you summarized well. Jung got this idea from Plato but, whereas Jung said these archetypes were MERELY fictional stories in our collective unconscious, Plato said these archetypes actually reflect something REAL. I’d say all these fictional good vs. evil stories resonate with us because they reflect the REAL story of the universe we live in - the REAL story of good defeating evil through a hero who sacrificed Himself to rescue us. It’s either that or these stories function like morphine to make us feel better while we’re on our way to becoming worm food, a theory which seems to me wildly implausible.

[@CayeDaws]

After watching a Avatar and Korra for the first time made me frustrated and the majority of the transformers fiction. While Avatar and Korra wanted to be a cartoon for the sake of being a cartoon, most transformers shows are made for the sole benefit of selling toys (At it's extremes were American G1, Japanese G1, the entire Unicron Trilogy, RID 2015, and cyberverse) and even the better shows (Beast Wars/Machines, Animated, and Prime) feel like cash grabs. Most times transformers fictions feels more like souless advertisiment for either beer and cars (bayverse) nostalgia trips into one of the most over rated decades imaginable where everything was an advertisement (Bumblebee). I think to really get a good transformers show that feels more authentic is to have a show (on Nick or cartoon Network) that is not backed by a toyline or a hundred of other companies. And please don't say to me that they are just kids shows because Avatar, Korra, and adventure Time were also for children and they were not made as advertisments. And also don't tell me that you need a toyline for a show either (if you need a toyline to match the show then either grow up a little or rely on third party. Make a show that does not rely on nostalgia of the traditional formula (One side vs the other, Autobot vs decepticon).

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

Just a note about American G1. Hasbro commissioned the show to push the toys, but the writers and voice actors had ZERO care about the toys. If you talk to these people they'll tell you they were just making a show. They took inspiration for the characters from real historical people such as General Patton, and from characters in other movies that they loved growing up. That's why a lot of the characters had personalities that were completely different from the toy bios. The stories didn't start taking clues from the toy line until the '86 movie and the seasons that followed. In fact season 3 was being written at the same time as the '86 movie and the writers of season 3 were pissed off that the movie killed off Optimus Prime and they were not happy about writing in a bunch of replacement characters.

[@CayeDaws]

@@iamtheomnimonkey it was at it's worst in season 4.

[@CayeDaws]

@@iamtheomnimonkey too bad siege is going to made based off a toyline.

[@audiebavington8789]

Damn. I really enjoyed the Power of the Primes series. The tired Apathetic Megatron that saves the universe. Perfect.

[@blazedyasa]

Why the fuck Hasbro/Takara wont do what Warner Bros does with DC with dvd/digital movies is beyond me. Even Dragon Ball came back after nearly 20 years with Super, whether people think Super is good or not is irrelevant, its the fact Dragon Ball is even a bigger franchise then it was when Z ended, and they pick up where they left off. There is a huge interest for a new G1 reboot series or animated movies that are either original stories based in G1 continuity or adapt the comic book stuff, both Marvel and IDW. I would lose my shit if they did an adaptation of Simon Furmans Time Wars. Or Revenge of the Destrons, where Prime and Megatron team up against Dezarus and his crew made up of Masterforce and Victory cons.

[@toolala3908]

What Transformers needs to do is something new. We haven't had any real fresh ideas in this franchise since like.... the Unicron Trilogy. its always the same garbage retold, Optimus VS Megatron, Bumblebee and Starscream, some side characters they don't develop, big evil deceptiman want to take over the world, some unimportant human characters etc I am beyond sick of Optimus Megatron and Starscream, let alone Bumblebee. I want something new. I want them to take risks like they did back in the 80s and 90s where new commanders would show up, where different stories got told, where new corners of this franchise got explored.

[@MonoSimio]

IDW.

[@mark4flair376]

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[@Atharun18999]

I think people over hype the late IDW run. A LOT of fans jumped off when it became a super woke fest and tumblr relationship drama.

[@CayeDaws]

I get it, some of you like G1, but can we please move on? Do something new? I'm am sick of seeing the Autobot vs decepticon formula (or the maximal vs predacon). I am really losing interest.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

well... idw wasnt auto vs decep in the traditional sense (not in the era we're really hoping for)

[@cthuludreams1]

I'd like to see cartoons of EARLY IDW stuff. That Cyclonus+Tailgate "relationship " stuff and the Lost Light era trash, no thanks.

[@aviatordanz]

T R A S H

[@brendanhaugland5546]

Eewwww

[@davidpruneda3795]

First

[@dabilboblakkins732]

This podcast was poorly researched

[@iamtheomnimonkey]

What???

[@dabilboblakkins732]

@@iamtheomnimonkey their lack of knowledge of the inner workings of the animation industry disappoints me.

[@MythsAndHeroes]

hahaha well its REALLY going to disappoint you when you find out there was absolutely ZERO research lol