TRANSFORMERS: THE BASICS on PRIMUS

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[@Prototype_Kai]

Primus becoming a psychiatrist is such a dad thing for him to do. He still watches over his "kids". Even if they never get his name right.

[@apolloknight9521]

Atleast he wasn’t killed by a Cosmically Powered Starscream

[@ThePageofRage]

...But that's a story for another day

[@spinyjustspiny3289]

I'm not even joking when I say "It got pretty close though"

[@Xeno-The-Wanderer]

his spark did power starscream in cybertron though so...

[@PoisonClaw4]

Oh, Starscream certainly tried... only to get slammed by Cybertron's moon's for his trouble.

[@Dr.Pootis]

If I had a dollar for every time "Cosmically Powered Starscream" was brought up in one of these videos...

[@yfullman]

I love Primus. The lore of all other forms of fiction is so humancentric. Transformers is like, nah, God is a robot, and humanity is just a random act of evolution.

[@DarkStarSentinel]

Yes! I know! I love it as well! The biggest problem I have with most science fiction is how humancentric everything is from the story long to the lore of the aliens themselves.

[@basedpota]

Sorry to kind of burst your bubble there, but primus is only the god of the Transformers, THE one is god who created the universe

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

@@DarkStarSentinel true... The hole "Humans are the center of the universe" is getting boring...

[@Jawmax]

@@basedpota I like to think THE ONE is God and Primus and Jesus are the best of bros.

[@NovaSaber]

Galaxy Force kind of implied that he created life on planets all over the Milky Way, but the dub cut out the line specifying that that included Earth.

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

3:14 T-Posing in front of Unicron. What an absolute power move

[@pancho855]

Lol

[@fenrirsrage4609]

Although not powerful enough, sadly.

[@kurtaxlmolo6194]

Super powerful move

[@ukaszbiaas183]

the T stands for transformers

[@Nate-tx9fp]

π

[@magnusprime962]

Personally, my favorite version is the multiversal singularity who exists as Unicron’s equal and opposite. It gives the franchise a broader, more epic scope. It doesn’t require creators to feature Primus or Unicron, but ensures that when they do use them, it’s a major event.

[@fabianrocha9924]

Well... tfwiki.net/wiki/Shroud

[@anthonyhero9605]

I totally agree

[@magnusprime962]

Fabian Rocha Yeah, I know that and understand why they did it. I don’t necessarily agree with the decision, but what can you do?

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

Which IDW Comics tell the reveal of Rung?

[@ilikeapples1824]

@@magnusprime962 get creative, make your own dam different Unicron and Primus in every new cartoon, I mean have you ever heard of the word "creativity" "originality"

[@grand_max66]

Should have mentioned the fact that after Rung died and the Matrices were used up, almost everyone forgot about him. They even found his office and thought it was a room they simply never noticed. With the only one who seemed to be able to remember him again being Rewind after constantly watching old recordings.

[@HerrLokiZockt]

Also, his Functionists Universe version punched Moonbase 2.

[@person14876]

HerrLokiZockt he punched the moon

[@GM_MorganV]

If you had told 5 year old me that a transformers comic would him cry, he’d have acted like a tough guy. More than meets the eye/lost light kept making it happen anyways.

[@yushkotina2928]

@@GM_MorganV so true..

[@chancesettlemire4358]

Not to mention the Lunarians, the Cybertronians forged on Luna 1, all resemble Rung and even blend into background of any given situation.

[@zerochi2119]

Shout outs to all the cool parents that dropped a 90 on that cybertron figure for their kids

[@louieattina445]

Got 2 of them from marshalls for 40.00. One to open one to put away

[@Falx415]

I remember that toy being the hottest new one every kid just HAD to have lol.

[@chanhjohnnguyen1867]

My gramps did that

[@xenon3990]

Ye my parents were like „aight kiddo“

[@Megatronus93]

my parents lol they spent so much money on transformers

[@Cassius335]

I love that ep of Cybertron where an enlarged Starscream tried to pick a fight with Primus.

[@TransDrummer1312]

I always like to describe it as “Starscream got mooned by God”

[@MrLFJ7]

THOSE ARE MOONS ???!!!???

[@mitchfletcher2386]

Truly Starscream is the ballsiest of all Transformers.

[@Evan_doodlearts]

But he got clapped

[@TransDrummer1312]

MrLFJ7 “YEAH PRIMUS!!! MOON THAT LOSER!!”

[@todddavis2041]

I haven't thought much about Primus's Unicron Trilogy origin, I don't hate it though. But Primus as the Creator of the Cybertronian race, starting with the 13 Primes to help in his Battle against Unicron, definitely my Favourite origin story!

[@thesymbiotenation.4552]

Same, and the Aligned continuity did it best.

[@brawmankerlexterminateurde860]

And it's one of the unique and best story of the transformers universe

[@dubstepphene82]

That's the one that I know of.

[@Skellijira]

Yep

[@Skellijira]

Yay

[@omega-rattrap]

My god....this whole time I thought the “Rung is God” comment was a joke....but he literally was Primus! I need to read more of the IDW books!

[@DegeneragentX]

And McFeely just happens to have an episode to help those who don't know where to start.

[@mmmichelin1]

I started reading the IDW run with ‘all hail megatron’ and it got better and better. Read everything with my son and I got pretty good at doing voices for most bots. My Rung voice was essentially Dr Venture

[@somethingpithy8547]

mmmichelin1 that’s really sweet!

[@ashippoi5711]

Does anyone know where to actually start the IDW? Im really interested but never made since I feel like I've been missing so much

[@twistedgaming9185]

Except he wasn't a god, just the first ever Transformer.

[@barrybend7189]

I would love a mix of the Rung and Cybertron Primus. Maybe have Rung be an avatar he uses to observe his creations while his main body was in stasis mode.

[@foldabotZ]

It's like the song: _~What if God was one of us?_ _Just a slob like one of us,_ _Just a stranger on the bus, tryna make his way home?~_

[@Reapermaskhybrid]

@@foldabotZ Ooh, mix a bit of the Unicron Trilogy, the original comic, AND the multiversal singularity stuff with the IDW comic and that'd be perfect.

[@christopherbravo1813]

I actually thought of something similar. though my idea also ties Primus with the Quintessons in a way that the fanbase might deem a *bit* controversial.

[@blank2276]

I like this one that seems like something someone would do in the future

[@gracekim25]

@@christopherbravo1813eh I’m sure it’s a fun creative origin 😊

[@rayray6490]

The mythos of Primus is instantly more relatable, exciting and alluring than Scientology

[@MnemonicHorse]

I remember watching the Cybertron animated series, getting to the episode where Primus transformed, and absolutely losing my tiny 14-year-old mind

[@basedpota]

Now just imagine seeing that happen in a theatrical movie. Like with bayverse level CGI. And then have him have a giant battle with Unicron.

[@dhruvk4267]

@@basedpota bay would find a way to ruin it as well

[@basedpota]

@dhruv Kamath But hes gone now

[@isseisato1689]

I remembered thar episodes

[@automan224]

“Tiny” “14” Wut?

[@NoahDaArk]

One Christmas, my mom bought me the original Cybertron Primus figure. To this day I am still thanking my mom

[@Toppshotta4]

Same here I was so excited I couldn’t believe it

[@myriadmediamusings]

Primus ranks as one of my favorite fictional deities. Kinda hard to say why considering that he actually doesn't do a whole lot in TF as a whole beyond existing and being a key figure to its lore, but he's still up there. I think it's the fact that he transforms into a freaking planet that clinches the deal.

[@todddavis2041]

Same here. Primus will always be a favourite. My other favourite fictional Deity is Mata Nui from the Bionicle franchise!

[@moviefan005]

@jockadoobee says you.

[@myriadmediamusings]

@jockadoobee Lmao well when put it like that, yeah. I mean deities that are not from any ancient religious texts or ancient legends and myths. Referring to stuff that was created by a modern writer of fiction, so this would include stuff like Primus from Transformers, Mata Nui from Bionicle, Arceus from Pokemon, etc.

[@basedpota]

@jockadoobee 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾 👏🏾

[@oliveragag8576]

@jockadoobee Not here dude

[@cobaltprime9467]

I’d like to see Rung return as an emissary of Primus. Not a Prime, but as the first Transformer he made so he could forge artifacts like the Matrix and Solus’s hammer. While the Primes remain the chosen ones of Primus, Rung is like a Hermès who serves Primus. In golden age Cybertron he became a psychiatrist to help his brethren and once the war breaks out he is tasked by Primus to deliver the Matrix to Alpha Trion and then take the Key to Vector Sigma off world and out of Megatron’s reach. Inevitably to seek refuge on Earth where the war comes to him. An alternative is he chooses to take the weakened Primus’s spark into himself to preserve his life force until Cybertron could be restored. Once on earth, Primus would reveal himself to Optimus Prime when his need was greatest. Rung’s story ends when he sacrifices his own Spark to allow Primus to create a second Matrix, an Energon Matrix, so both Optimus and Rodimus can use their combined powers to end the war. Cybertron is restored and Primus returns to the core.

[@dnprime1737]

now to put primus and unicron in smite. if Cthulhu can get in, then so can the transformer gods.

[@ronanchristiana.belleza9270]

Well thers a problem these are planet size beings

[@chickenwingsabandonedaccou2842]

@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 that is why we need galactus in the chat

[@notimmortalmumin8477]

You know how as a kid you'll pretend that you're sleeping when your parents come into your room to make sure you're not playing video games all night? Thats what Azathoth is doing so Godzilla dont catch him trippin', Godzilla would omega blast that furry into oblivion.

[@dnprime1737]

@@ronanchristiana.belleza9270 if unicron can make more human-sized avatars, then primus can too

[@offlinemedia1784]

Broooo

[@jasonbraun1469]

Make The Basics On: A Cosmically Powered Starscream

[@SixshotRevan]

He already did "The Basics on Starscream" and talked about it there. Though, he could still do "The Basics on the Underbase" to go into more detail.

[@mithmoonwalker]

this comment was killed by a cosmically powered starscream

[@oliveragag8576]

He would, but then he'd be offlined by a cosmically powered Starscream.

[@Nameless-ln5mr]

He did it. He made “The Basics on The Underbase Saga”.

[@ProfessM]

As much as I loved the character of Rung and the twist in the story kinda do like Primus more as a planet sized god. I mean I could easily see Rung as something like a Headmaster but as the Omega Lock and not know he is, if I was to do a series with him.

[@fabianrocha9924]

Agreed I dont like Rung being Primus either...

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

​@@fabianrocha9924 Primus without Unicron is like Megatron without Optimus Prime.

[@basedpota]

@Fabian Rocha Well rung could’ve been a cybertronian that Primus used to represent himself (like how the force created anakin skywalker) and that deep down in the core of cybertron primus sleeps. But I can’t find a way to justify that version of Unicron

[@ProfessM]

@@basedpota Well Unicron tends to use Sideways as his herald so maybe Rung can be Primus'?

[@basedpota]

@ProfessM Yeah I think I would be fine with that. It adds something new to the franchise while still honoring what fans have to view has the best origin

[@captaingamedesigner]

I was hoping you'd mention Primus the Order Bringer from Shattered Glass :P have you ever considered a Cybertron religion episode. They've created a few interesting bits of mythology over the years

[@twistedgaming9185]

Especially IDW taking some of them and bringing new ones as myths and legends.

[@krbchris26]

It was the 4th ever episode of this series

[@acemarvel1564]

Kinda weird seeing robot religion but yeah ok

[@samwatson-tayler2805]

Hot take Rung's adorable wholesome kindness works better as a personality for Primus than just a booming voice and authoritative sentences. However, if he is ever Primus again it'll need to be done differently because of how well MTMTE/LL did it.

[@twistedgaming9185]

And do it like how Cyberverse handled Maccadam.

[@GurrenPrime]

Maybe a combination of his personality and the old school origin story could work? Like, have him be an all powerful god, but he never acts like it.

[@holoitsme3012]

Rung can just be Primus's Clark Kent

[@mitchfletcher2386]

@@holoitsme3012 That sounds hilarious.

[@charliedmh84]

GurrenPrime Or maybe Rung would be a Headmaster or Powermaster to Cybertrons body or something like that

[@infiniteoctopaw]

I want more Rung in things. He’s such a sweetheart who genuinely cares about people. I don’t care if he’s Primus or not he should just be in more things.

[@DESTRAKON]

That old cybertron toy was a *_beast_*

[@demi-fiendoftime3825]

I still own mine :)

[@Blakewyattdunfee]

@@demi-fiendoftime3825 same here.

[@jefferyquick3280]

@@Blakewyattdunfee Join the club.

[@46chambersoflife]

Lucky bastards

[@DESTRAKON]

@@46chambersoflife you still have time homie, prices aren't gonna spike on those till 2025

[@ReikoAyanamiCh]

"What's in store for Rung?" *glances at the Energon Enemas* Some things are better off not known.

[@yushkotina2928]

IDW`s Rung always was one of my favourite characters. And when it turned out that he was Primus all along... It was kinda unexpected, but I liked this twist.

[@nessus47]

Aww Rung is so sweet, one of my faves too. I was surprised by the storyarc too, but I prefer him like this, to the large god he was portrayed as in earlier incarnations😊

[@basedpota]

I personally hope it isn’t repeated. Same with the Unicron being Earth. Like they keep rung but I would like the traditional Primus to also be there (I love the Unicron and Primus cosmic lore too much to accept any other version). Like I think they can make Rung the cybertronian that Primus created as a representation as him and his personality.

[@frankspick7544]

@@basedpota honeslty i say if rung does return has primus but has a god just make it say that he just made himself a new body and just go round in the background helping people

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

Rung's colors are the same as the Matrix in the 80's film and the markings on his chest looks like the Matrix.

[@RexBlazer1]

Excellent video, Chris. To answer your question on favorite origins, I won’t lie, my heart still goes to the multiversal singularity seen in the Unicron Trilogy. I do like elements of the Aligned Continuity version as well, though.

[@sueoshea2131]

Especially since the singularity is still definitely a thing, all universes had their own origins for primus and unicron anyway so nothings different, all the aligned continuity did was let authors do whatever they want without worrying about the fans going "but that doesn't tie into the singularity", and how in the world would the star saber ever have enough power to do that? Did primus AND unicron just decide to commit suicide? Why do they still show up in almost every universe? It's just so authors don't have to worry about becoming dc comics

[@ZZtheDark]

So agreed with the multiversal thingy.

[@basedpota]

Just a little question, do you mean you liked how primus is in the aligned continuity? Or just in general?

[@ltb1345]

But if Primus is a multiversal singularity, doesn't that mean he's creating an army of trillions of powerful robots across the multiverse? Seems a little suspicious to me...

[@RexBlazer1]

@@ltb1345 All to take down a super powerful entity that counters him. It's best not to overthink it.

[@videopolice432]

When something so fantastic and legendary, turns out to be so normal and equal. And I say this with all the wonder in my mind.

[@gloydorangeboar3136]

A better idea for Rung is that he's a means to witch Primus uses to interact with his creations in modern times while he rests inside Cybertrons core.

[@toygrind]

1:32 basteroids

[@jcgames7675]

I mean it fits

[@TheSmart-CasualGamer]

Is that like the mug that's also a bastard?

[@manuelmadrid3051]

.

[@OverseerXIII]

Primus damnit

[@gar2yc]

See? That's how you write a deity. I know some "geewuners" hate Rung, and call him a "self-insert" of the writter, but i think his presence in the comics gave the characters new dimensions personality-wise, the fact that he got a figure in the main toyline is something that puts a smile on my face for holding the IDW comics as my first step into the fandom, too bad Hasbro's toy distribution sucks, otherwise i would've gotten two figures of him. BTW fucking Has/Tak needs to do a Fulcrum figure, the true, best character of IDW's comics.

[@Krishnath.Dragon]

@@basedpota I like to think that in the old IDW continuity a stable time loop is the reason for Cybertron's and the transformers existence, and it's all because of Shockwave. Shockwave creates the 13 ores, one of which affects time. Thus creating a stable time loop in which said ore causes Cybertron to become cybertron and creating the first transfomers, eventually leading to the creation of shockwave, who then proceeds to create the 13 ores, one of which affects time....

[@HashbrownMashup]

I wish people would remember that Primus was kind of a dick when he was first introduced. In issue #74 of the US Marvel Transformers comic Optimus Prime repeatedly gets mad at Primus for his callous and manipulative attitude towards his creations. I dunno, it just seems like an interesting dynamic to me.

[@basedpota]

Primus probably didn’t see his actions as manipulative or condescending since he is their father/god.

[@gentlemanlygeeky4088]

Gods don't like being questioned in holy texts or in fiction.

[@HashbrownMashup]

@@gentlemanlygeeky4088 >holy texts or in fiction. wym you just said the same thing twice

[@HashbrownMashup]

​@@basedpota Yes, hubris and egotism are common characteristics of self-proclaimed creator-deities.

[@adamharford4142]

That whole Rung reveal when I first read it... BLEW. MY. MIND!

[@basedpota]

I still hope that the traditional Primus still exists in the IDW continuity. And that Rung is the cybertronian Primus used to represent himself and that’s why he could create thing that gave life to other transformers.

[@clogs4956]

Creation myths don’t need to be finalised, even for robots. That said, I’m still up for Simon Furman’s basic idea of manifest creation vs entropy. It’s properly mythological, not provable and all a matter of belief - and a very comic book style way of tackling the issue.

[@2TCHOLMES]

I think the multiversal singularity idea could still work; like, establish that the different versions of Primus and Unicron are still linked to each other, but come in all different forms and are associated with Cybertron’s history in one way or another.

[@jojo200625]

Brilliant as always Chris! I am floored by how much research and love goes into your Basics Videos and how attention to detail and precision goes into your videos bringing them to a whole new level of entertainment I look forward to every time I get a notification of youtube and twitter. Keep up the good works and looking forward to the next one!

[@YourGuyAlex]

I love how this guy is able to explain what is essentially a toy commercial with such esteem and proudness. I’m in love with these videos and I’m so happy they’re here

[@twistedgaming9185]

"For all their supposed omnipotence... even gods can be conned!"

[@fusion4775]

I remember reading the IDW issue when everybody was fighting to use the Matrices to defeat the Faux-Primus. It was such an awesome moment. It honestly recaptured the fealing of that moment when Optimus showed up on earth in the first movie, I even had the song playing in my head.

[@BenBoyee]

Thank you SOOO much for the episode! Taking a break from making a full course pasta dinner from scratch. This was a delightful breather! (IDW's take was my fav interpretation. Rung is a great character.)

[@Scorchlette]

I personally like to combine the G1 cartoon and comic origins. Maybe sometime after Primus went dormant, the Quintessons enslaved the Cybertronians for their own gain.

[@ycastro2003]

I think they more-or-less said that in the JP & 3H universe.

[@pancho855]

Go check Rodimus Primal's video on the subject

[@muhlestermoon6436]

5:16- “Till All Are One”...hmmm...now I think I know what Prime meant.

[@absolstoryoffiction6615]

Unicron be like: "Till One Are All."

[@franciscopedraza7534]

@@absolstoryoffiction6615 Really more like "Till all are none."

[@chickenwingsabandonedaccou2842]

What did he mean?

[@diegos7337]

As Usual, great VIdeo! My Favorite back Story for Primus is the Unicron Trilogy one! He and Unicron are Opposite brothers, a superior being which decided to start life in Space... after charting the whole universe. I still think Primus being the Core of Cybertron should always be the canonical Story for him. I rather the Epic story or 2 primordial beings charting, creating, and destroying (Unicron), the Universe.

[@bustybonnie6700]

WOW! I never would have thought Rung had any kind of connection to lore like that. Incredible!

[@blaketyler7447]

Simon Furmans origin of transformers blew my mind when I first got into transformers comics and cartoons. I believe it allows for transformers to be taken more seriously and showing a spiritual side to the franchise. Making them more human and relatable. However, when reading phase two of IDW and Rung was introduced therefore tossing away the origin o was highly disappointed. Sure, it's a different universe but just seems phase two was trying to do away with a ton of elements that made transformers special.

[@fabianrocha9924]

Agreed

[@lyannaripper7124]

Bruh I feel the same 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@user-hc9qv9yb9m]

It's always new people that want to "reinvision" established canon. This is how we ended up with Beast Wars

[@Robofrog100]

@@user-hc9qv9yb9m the best transformers series, you mean?

[@jasonwolf3591]

Both Rung and Xaaron were on the Lost Light and what I wouldn't give for them to have had even a single scene together.

[@justtalking8675]

Been waiting for this episode of the basics for a long time, and it didn’t disappoint

[@thecianinator]

The basics on Primus: Primus is an American funk metal band formed in El Sobrante, California in 1984. The band is currently composed of bassist/vocalist Les Claypool, guitarist Larry "Ler" LaLonde, and drummer Tim "Herb" Alexander. Primus originally formed in 1984 with Claypool and guitarist Todd Huth, later joined by drummer Jay Lane, though the latter two departed the band at the end of 1988. Featuring LaLonde and Alexander, Primus recorded the live album Suck on This in 1989, followed by four studio albums: Frizzle Fry (1990), Sailing the Seas of Cheese (1991), Pork Soda (1993), and Tales from the Punchbowl (1995). Alexander left the band in 1996 due to lack of interest [1] and was replaced by Bryan "Brain" Mantia, with whom Primus went on to record the original theme song for the TV show South Park and two more albums, Brown Album (1997) and Antipop (1999), before entering into a hiatus in 2000.

[@MasterArchfiend]

Not going to lie. I'd like if they merged the Rung concept with the conduit idea. Primus is still this powerful God of creation and order, but he masquerades as the psychiatrist Rung to walk amongst his own creations without having too much leeway to interfere in their lives. Sort of like the Gods of Greek myth.

[@masacross8551]

Didn't even know that Primus existed until I started delving into the Transformers lore recently. Story is way more epic than I ever thought before.

[@Lolxlol21_]

9:40 This image and it’s info has been in most in these videos. There will be more of this in future episodes. It’s only Logical, considering it’s a huge part of every TF lore.

[@ycastro2003]

Does anyone find it interesting that through out the years Primus has shown a darker side? Like there's abandoning his earliest children like the Covenant & Demons (and possibly the organic life that once lived on Cybertron), creating his main children through the multiverse to fight & murder each other in a supposed effort to get rid of his brother & being nothing more than weapons, and despite RG1 being shit; it was sorta interesting that it said that Primus used the multiverse as a testing ground to supposedly create one perfect world and what that implies. Anyway I prefer the multiversal Primus origin with elements from BM & IDW.

[@Troublethecat]

Where did you get the idea that he actually purposely created the transformer race to fight and murder each other? He creates them to have free will and of course a race of beings with free will aren't going to always get along with each other.

[@ycastro2003]

@@Troublethecat Primus supposedly saw into the future a couple of times and KNOWINGLY created the Liege Maximo, ya know; the Prime of EVIL.

[@Troublethecat]

@@ycastro2003 Where was is this? Is it Bayverse? And even if that's true, that just one continuity.

[@ycastro2003]

@@Troublethecat dude it's in ALL continuities

[@basedpota]

@yolanda castro Yes but here’s the thing primus knows that every transformer will eventually be one with him (unless Unicron intervenes) so I don’t think he cares much what they do before they before they die unless it directly effects him.

[@m.s.e.advanced2842]

8:22 one day we'll get a Kissplayers episode...or maybe not

[@bluerobin2982]

Nah no thanks

[@bluerobin2982]

That seems like a bad idea

[@fabianrocha9924]

@@bluerobin2982 That seems like a *_HORRIBLE_* idea!

[@ltb1345]

No God, please no.

[@DegeneragentX]

Someone is gonna sponsor an episode about, it is inevitable.

[@President_Starscream]

Oh my god, it's Primus. Literally

[@Pencilboy0]

Starscream I hate you

[@optoclawonline9326]

@@Pencilboy0 lol

[@ericgray4325]

oh my, vector sigma

[@President_Starscream]

@@Pencilboy0 aw don't be sore that I beat you in the election. You're just too nice to do what was necessary to win.

[@vergil4418]

@@President_Starscream That inauguration was just bad comedy

[@jackofallclaws6672]

3rd Anniversary month? Now I KNOW this month’s is going to be ULTRA GEAR!!!!

[@BlackHoleForge]

One of your best videos yet. This help clear up so many confusions I had. Thank you

[@ycastro2003]

So if Cybertron was organic in the past does that mean Primus' original warriors against Unicron were going to be organic as well? Like the Thirteen (or a version of them) weren't Primus' first children, examples being the Covenant shown in 3H comics and the Demons in the Marvel comics.

[@pancho855]

If i'm making my own Transformers re-boot i'm going to need as much knowledge as posible about its characters and mythology in order to not get slapped in the face by Beast Wars Megatron.

[@acemarvel1564]

Im thinking rung could be an external construct of Primus’s consciousness, wandering the surface to watch over his creations and witnessing the events that change the face of Cybertron itself

[@pancho855]

@@acemarvel1564 Hmm, that's a pretty interesting and good idea, thanks for the tip.

[@acemarvel1564]

@@pancho855 if you wish for more tips ive got many ideas

[@pancho855]

@@acemarvel1564 I'm all ears, or eyes in this case. Got any idea of where we could discuss it?

[@acemarvel1564]

@@pancho855 I’ve only got a few more that i can just list down here give me a moment to gather the notes

[@patrickburns4821]

I liked the original comic story of them being 2 cosmic warriors who were confined to planets an made the planets into new bodies...pretty cool; also making primus a constant in every universe is cool too!

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

I think my favorite is where Primus and Unicron are emissaries of The One, before Unicron turns evil. The Thirteen is one of my favorite concepts from the franchise. But I also like Rung as a character, and when you really look at it he probably is more than "just" another Transformer. He just... appeared one day. Then he used his power to create the rest of Cybertron's populace, possibly even the Guiding Hand. And his spark became a hotspot (no, not Hot Spot) after his sacrifice. There is definitely something to all that, but has thankful been left as a mystery to unravel. Stories are usually better when they don't explain everything.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

Yes, I tend to think the same way! If we DID still have to worry about "singularities," there's still ample room within the IDW universe for the "true" Primus to exist (after all, Cybertron, Vector Sigma, sparks, and Rung's power to make a cyrstal that could tap that life-giving power all exist in it without given origins!) and for Rung to just be another embodiment of his invisible hand.

[@camerongrow6426]

I really like the idea of a planet-sized robot god that embodies the power of life, but I also like the "what if God was one of us" type approach with Rung.

[@basedpota]

Why not just do both?

[@QueenStodge]

3 years of The Basics? It feels like it was yesterday when you started this. Anyhow, great video Chris, thoroughly enjoyed it.

[@CoryTheRaven]

I have a kind of head canon where the Quintessons built TWO factory planets. One produced industrial robots, the other military robots. After turning on the Quintessons, the military planet turned on the industrial planet and started a campaign to literally consume the resources of other planets to fuel its military production. Kind of my own little harmonization of the two main origin stories, and I admit that I actually prefer a more pedestrian origin to a cosmic one. A toyline of transforming robots never really warranted a Biblical origin story to me, with dueling gods and thirteen disciples and all of that.

[@sivanlevi3867]

I think my favorite Primus moment is his transformation to robot mode in Transformers Cybertron, especially with Vector Prime introducing him in as grand a manner as possible.

[@batsardcat3285]

You're so close to 100k! I wish you the best and congrats if it happens before the next video

[@Truehero1057]

At last, the basics on Primus! That last part about him being an ordinary Transformer was a surprise to me, and also sort of reminded me of what happened to the Great Spirit Mata Nui in the ninth year of the Bionicle story. Also, I am considering supporting the channel on Patreon, but I need to work out my finances before I make any attempts. I apologize if it looks like I’m spamming, I was writing this comment before and I think I posted it before I could finish it.

[@KrytenMark]

Oh, wow, I had no idea Rung was Primus. Man, I REALLY need to catch up with those IDW comics someday. ^^; Oh well, you learn something new every day. :)

[@mariospeppas8155]

It's a very cool reveal as well,you're gonna enjoy it a lot :-)

[@basedpota]

@Marios Peppas I just hope it’s not repeated. Big reveals like that lose impact if they happen over and over. I would like if Rung and the traditional Primus both existed.

[@andyrew2551]

Thank primes for this episode. Plus you are so close to 1 mil subs keep it up!

[@Kamenriderneo]

My favorite origin story is the one from the Aligned continuity. In the guide book Covenant of Primus, they explain that before the beginning of the Universe, there was the One being and he was the only thing that existed. He looked around and wondered what he would do with all that empty space. Part of him thought that it was all his and he should keep it for himself. Another part believed that he should use this space to create things. The internal conflict pushed the One to split into two beings, Unicron the unique and Primus the first. The seperation also released a colossal wave of Energy known as the Big bang.

[@ChrisMcFeely]

I think you're misremembering slightly! The Covenant explains that there was a singular entity that explored the living universe (we're talking after the Big Bang already here) and eventually found other lifeforms. It was the realisation that other beings existed while it was singular and unique that caused the internal conflic that resulted in its subdividing into Primus and Unicron, into "good" and "evil." It's not functionally hugely different from "The One Origin," which also described Unicron and Primus as being created by The One as a singular being that was subdivided.

[@samuelrichards1288]

The Multiversal Singularity origin is easily my favorite origin. I wish that the Shroud did not affect every universe, just most of them. This was one of the best episodes yet. As a side note, have you ever considered doing an Advanced series?

[@basedpota]

Maybe one day the concept can be partially reintroduced. Like they could make it to where each Unicron/Primus instead of being their own individual, they are just one tiny piece of Unicron/Primus

[@matthewreynoso6904]

I love the idea of Primus being the one who created the Transformers, whereas the Quintessons would be the ones who manipulate the Transformers race into believing that they were their slaves!

[@EternalRoman]

Primus as a multidimensional Singularity and the Creator of the Cybertronian Race PLUS being Cybertron itself is the BEST story and interpretation of the Character.

[@Safeguard1]

I like the concept where Primus existed alongside Unicron, I think that's a cool concept that they were opposites of each other.

[@Renkencen]

First time I had heard about Rung and I admit, I liked the new adaption they did with Primus there (I'm used to the aligned continity)!

[@pancho855]

Same

[@basedpota]

I personally hope if it gets revealed that Rung wasn’t THE Primus. And that they reveal the traditional Primus still exists and is sleeping at the core and that Rung is the cybertronian he used to represent him and his personality.

[@vikingfromnorth45]

Nope he is primus

[@battleupsaber462]

I love Rong! He is my favourite IDW character. ...or was it Rang?

[@fabianrocha9924]

Wanst it Ring?

[@autumnramble]

Step..per? I'm sure it was something like that.

[@2PRO_4U_2NO]

@@fabianrocha9924 Wrung, I think?

[@WretchedDarkness]

Perhaps wrung

[@hoytdotblohm]

At 2:40 I could smell that comic book, my cousin had it when we were kids, I hadn't thought about that for a long time. Thank you for your content.

[@commonsensetech]

Thank you Chris, my sons and I love watching your channel! They are very interested in Clobber, and the fact that he went from Decepticon to Autobot. I’d be kind of interested in a “Basics on Transformer Allegiance” that explores the characters in Transformers history that have flipped sides. Thanks so much! Keep up the great work!

[@CourtneyCoulson]

I feel like the Primus origin = creationism, and the Quintesson origin = evolution. One is idealistic, it involves higher powers and higher purpose. The other is the brutal reality, forms made for specific functions, there are creators but they are indifferent and flawed.

[@lordstarscreamproductions970]

Idw primus is my fav

[@Convar]

I have been waiting for this episode.

[@maskedriderweaver4122]

Very interesting, thank you. I had known about attempts to combine the G1 cartoon and comic origins, but was not sure how it had gone. I am working on a similar story myself right now. I think I will seek out Rung and try to add him to my limited collection. Can't wait for your next video.

[@meowijuana2322]

7:24 lil Trypticon just floating by

[@sonicguyver7445]

I always prefer the idea of Primus as a benevolent godlike entity that opposed Unicron and created the 13 Primes to help in this task. With the idea that the Primes are the penultimates of their race and any Primes after them being ordinary cybertronians who have proven worthy by their own virtue and accend to Prime with The Matrix.

[@basedpota]

Completely agree with you

[@vince0896]

This is one of the best video to tide Primus and Unicron. Thank you very much.

[@mekman4]

Fantastic! Great Stuff as always. I may prefer the Quintesson (and this Rung) origin more than the power creep that plagues G*d vs the Devil story lines, but they’re still interesting, the way you put them. Stay safe out there! We’re always looking forward to more, The Basics.

[@michaelletherman3835]

While I love Rung, Primus v Starscream is my favorite Primus moment ever.

[@Arthus850]

I’m a fan fiction writer, and I’m writing my own version of the Transformers origin, which borrows from all versions. The history that’s told on Modern Cybertron is what we all expect. Primus and Unicron fought, Primus trapped them inside the asteroids, the asteroids reshaped themselves into metal planets, Primus created the thirteen Primes, etc. But then an invasion force would attack Cybertron and would challenge that history. The invading force is the quintessons, who were referenced a few times in Transformers legends, with some theorizing that they were one of many creations of Quintus Prime. And upon capturing one and studying it, they realize that their technology, while visually different, is actually the exact same technology as Cybertron, fueled by Energon, capable of transformation, etc. But then the Quintesson wakes up, and agrees to explain everything. He says that they are invading Cybertron as they want to reclaim it. After all, they did create it. Optimus naturally doubts his claim, as they were created by Primus, and the Quintesson replies. “Yes, you were. I’m not denying that. We did read your history coming in, and much of it rings true, but many things have been altered over time. Like Quintus Prime creating us. That’s not true. We created him. All he did was advance us from organic beings into the glorious robotic race we are now. But back on the topic at hand.” “The early parts of your history are completely accurate. Primus did fight Unicron, they were trapped in asteroids, and Primus did create the thirteen Primes. But that’s where your history deviates. If it stayed true, then you’d know that that’s where we came in. When we first found your planet, it was it was nothing but an asteroid with a massive energy sphere in the centre and thirteen smaller ones surrounding it. We were running out of fuel and desperately needed a new power source, so we integrated these energy spheres into our machines and found that they gave us unlimited clean energy. Only afterwards did we realize that the energy spheres were sentient and alive. So we gave them robotic bodies, and with their help, we started building factories on the asteroid until it evolved into what we now call Cybertron. The large energy sphere didn’t have a name, so our emperor, Primacron decided to name it Primus, after the first half of his name. And by merging Primus’s essence with our Vector Sigma computer, not only did it become sentient, but it became capable of giving life, specifically through another artifact of its own creation, the artifact you know as the Allspark. From there, your race began to grow, and our technology began to flourish. But then you turned on us. You called us slavers and banished us from Cybertron. From there, Primacron vowed revenge. And from there, we found another asteroid. And upon communicating with the entity inside, he realized that he was an enemy of Primus. Seizing the opportunity for revenge, Primacron converted the asteroid into a weapon capable of deconstructing planets and named it Unicron, after the second half of his name. But then we were betrayed again, as Unicron turned on us, forcing us to flee back to our home planet. But now we are back, and we are ready to reclaim what is rightfully ours.” Wow that was long. Got carried away with my creativity there.

[@person14876]

That sounds really interesting. Could you provide a link to your fanfic

[@Arthus850]

@@person14876 Late reply. No link as of yet. Right now I’m more focused on original stories, and this fanfic is still in the planning stages.

[@Nahli2001]

In your writing, how did pre asteroid Primus fight Unicron if it took Vector Sigma to grant Primus Sentience? Also I think the word you want is cognizance as sentience is the capacity to perceive and react to stimuli, and cognizance is the capacity to think.

[@Arthus850]

@@Nahli2001 No. Primus was already sentient. It was Vector Sigma that became sentient when merged with Primus’s essence.

[@Nahli2001]

@@Arthus850 Oh, my mistake. I didn't see the distinction and took it the wrong way. Thanks for the correction!

[@projectfanboy]

Ok that last bit of the video really suprised me as I am not upto that point yet in the collections, I can't wait to see how everyone handles it on the ship.

[@jaxeight]

I missed this. Thank you. Stay safe and healthy!!!

[@kylelangdon6724]

That EMP must be effecting me because I forgot Rung was Primus.

[@danielbrant6740]

*G1 Marvel Primus:* I trapped myself in a rock. *Unicron Trilogy Primus:* I had three dedicated series chronicling my eternal struggle with my brother. *Aligned Primus:* I was technically retired. *Rung:* I... I have a PHD in psychiatry... *Other Primuses:* ... *Aligned Primus:* I knew I should've taken up a hobby...

[@bryanmanuel4945]

Aligned Primus: It is not my time...I shall collect Transformers Action Figurines

[@autumnramble]

Rung: Well, I have a job AND a hobby.

[@basedpota]

Beryl Autumnramble Other Primuses: NERRRDDDD!

[@171QA]

Any story about Primus is good just as long as he stays a benevolent force.

[@kylelangdon6724]

We need a basics on the rest of the Guiding Hand. Then we can have a Gods playlist with those guys and Unicron.

[@basedpota]

There’s only one version of the guiding hand though

[@kylelangdon6724]

@@basedpota And I want to know about them.

[@goutamisikdar8588]

Primus should get some more Spotlight rather than appearing as cybertron.

[@basedpota]

I hope one day we get to see Primus and Unicron fight in a theatrical film.

[@davidpulipati2865]

In my mind, the Quintessons are the true creators of the Transformers, and Primus is simply part of their religion

[@whatdoyouwantinthismovie1939]

Was definitely shocked about Rung's true identity along with the other 4. And it became one of favorite ideas because of how different it was compared to the other origin stories. Overall I loved IDW comics, has by far been one of my favorite incarnation of Transformers in general.

[@nessus47]

I totally agree👍

[@ShaunStephens777]

I’ve been waiting for this video 😁😁

[@sethleoric2598]

I really wouldn't mind if they revealed a twist that Primus isn't the god of the Cybertronians, he's the god of the Quintessons. He created/evolved them, they gained intelligence, became post-Quintessonian (that's why they're a bunch of giant floating heads) and built the transformers befor the transformers rose up against them Terminator style and built their own society. Eventually the Quintessons built a metal body for Unicron C'tan style so Primus kind of abandoned them and chose the Transformers or something, that could be a myth.

[@HERITAGE12]

I always preferred the more mythic g1 comic version. Particularly the subtle differences between primus's version of events and unicrons. The prob with God characters is the more ya use em the less epic they seem. Galactus is a classic example of this (and the 1st one's in babylon 5). To be done right ya really can barely use em at all :)

[@basedpota]

That’s why they should be saved for when they need ending to the series. Like from the start subtly introduce their presence and as the show goes on have it grow and grow until they finally appear at the end.

[@EmmanuelMarin07]

You're so close to a 100K! Cheers, mate! 😁

[@bigboi_chriis1495]

The idea with the singularitys should’ve stuck with unicorn and primus it was a way to have a solid connection to tie everything together them being multi universal beings doesn’t change what you can do with the story at all