Transformers The Last Knight... A Look Back

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John Pattison

John Pattison

Күн бұрын

Part 2 of my Transformers The Last Knight retrospective - Michael Bay's final Transformers film - and the final chapter of my look back on the Bayverse
Links to previous parts:
Transformers (2007) is STILL GREAT: • Transformers (2007) is...
Is Transformers Revenge of the Fallen UNDERRATED?: • Is Transformers Reveng...
Transformers Dark of the Moon is (Nearly) PERFECT: • Transformers Dark of t...
Transformers Age of Extinction is BETTER THAN YOU REMEMBER: • Transformers Age of Ex...
Revisiting Transformers The Last Knight...: • Revisiting Transformer...

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@danieldickerson4838
@danieldickerson4838 4 ай бұрын
God, if Megatron had been the “Last Knight”, or simply was the main bot aside from Optimus… Like, just imagine if Megatron was now so war weary, that he got to the point where he actively began working with the humans, or we saw how Quintessa got into his mind about saving Cybertron and restoring it. That would’ve tied beautifully together with his established weariness in Dark of the Moon. Imagine seeing Megatron slowly figure out over the course of TLK that Quintessa was not whom she claimed to be, and that she was indeed the, “Great Deceiver”, and the rage and betrayal that he would feel towards her, and himself, the mighty Megatron, for foolishly buying into her lies. Imagine the surprise on Megatron’s face from seeing Optimus again for the first time in years, and that his sworn enemy and once brother-in-arms was now a puppet for Quintessa. Imagine Megatron trying and failing to snap Prime out of his mind control, calling him weak for ever letting himself be controlled, but having to resort to a full fledged fight against his arch nemesis to get HIM to chill out (the irony). Imagine Optimus returning to his old self, and seeing that Megatron genuinely tried to save him and had also been under Quintessa’s heel, all to simply save their planet. Imagine them teaming up, Optimus, being the kind and gentle soul that he is, reconciling with Megs, at least a little bit, and putting their history behind them for one final mission, one last fight that they would face together as allies, not as enemies. With the Autobots, Megatron’s remaining Decepticons, the Knights, and the humans, Optimus and Megatron would bring the fight to Quintessa, stop her from awakening Unicron, and destroy her to restore Cybertron. In the end, Megatron, with an open and genuine invitation from Prime, would go with him and the rest of the Cybertronians back home to start work in slowly restoring their home world, and forging a new future for Cybertron, a new beginning. Imagine THAT shit, instead of whatever the hell we got in 2017 as the last Michael Bay directed Transformers movie. The script practically could’ve written itself, it’s so easy, and I’m just some dude online. I wasn’t in a writer’s room actively getting PAID to create the nonsense that TLK was.
@theultimatememelord5494
@theultimatememelord5494 4 ай бұрын
"Optimus, being the kind and gentle soul he is" Clearly you aren't familiar with the murderous escapades of Warcrime Prime.
@danieldickerson4838
@danieldickerson4838 4 ай бұрын
@@theultimatememelord5494 I am. I’m also aware that when Bay Prime isn’t fighting against murderous genocidal opponents, he’s typically quite calm, kind, and gentle as I stated previously.
@theultimatememelord5494
@theultimatememelord5494 4 ай бұрын
@@danieldickerson4838 OK, cool.
@Bandita92
@Bandita92 4 ай бұрын
"They should of beat him up for longer" got me dead💀
@henrymockingbird9645
@henrymockingbird9645 4 ай бұрын
Optimus prime doesn’t deserve a statue for age of extinction you deserve a statue for reviewing the last knight you you went through hell with this movie you have seen Satan and for that I respect and salute you, my good, sir
@Wing-Zero-si1eu
@Wing-Zero-si1eu 4 ай бұрын
Despite how Bayverse has its ups and downs since the first movie. I really enjoyed them from finishing 2nd grade, all the way from graduating High School. I actually like the Reboot Verse more than its predecessor. But if it helps? I recommend checking out a stop motion sequel to The Last Knight. Transformers Finest Hour. This one takes place where the last movie left off. Explaining if Sam is dead or not. Knowing how Optimus has changed since Sentinel Betrayed him in DOTM. Unicron finally making his move. While the Knights explain to the characters about how their race came to be. And what happened to the other Creators that briefly appear in the first minutes of Age of Extinction. Best part of this Fan Made film is that there are no Humans. We don’t see Cade, Vivian, Jimmy, Isabella, Lennox, & Simmons, at all. It’s just like the TV movie finale to Transformers Prime.
@skylord1846
@skylord1846 4 ай бұрын
38:15 There is a difference between these two scenes. Noah is wearing a cybertronian exosuit(Mirage) so that would be able to boost his physical strength while Cade just has a cybertronian sword. And Noah doesn’t even succeed saving Optimus from being sucked into a black hole, and it gets so bad to the point where Optimus Primal has to jump in to help. While Cade successfully saves Optimus on his own without any help from a Cybertronian. They’re similar, but not completely the same thing. Anyway, good video. I really enjoyed watching both videos covering TLK.
@johnpattison6882
@johnpattison6882 4 ай бұрын
As much as I would like this argument to work, the entire thing is voided based off the fact that the vortex is yanking Optimus up into it and Primal has to fight against its power, yet Noah is completely unaffected
@skylord1846
@skylord1846 4 ай бұрын
@@johnpattison6882 What do you mean by that? Primal grabbed Optimus, and pulled him out of there with ease, unlike Noah who couldn’t achieve such an incredible feat. Noah was actually struggling and was constantly shouting and grunting, and he even tried to use the Jetpack and he still failed. If it wasn’t for Primal, then Optimus and probably Noah would’ve died. He was definitely affected and didn’t make this look easy, unlike Cade with the sword who didn’t even seem to struggle at all.
@Silver_Spectre
@Silver_Spectre 4 ай бұрын
I’ve never clicked on a notification so fast
@JMotion
@JMotion 4 ай бұрын
Random thought on how to incorporate Bee into Prime showing up brainwashed. Lemme paint the picture. Prime slaughters the zombie knights and stands triumphant over their corpses. "I've come for that staff" Lenox and Bumblebee exchange a concerned glance, sensing something isn't right. Cade moves to speak, oblivious to the fact Optimus is no longer his old heroic self. "Optimus! Thank god you're here, these rusty old knights-" "Give it to me." Optimus demands, taking no notice of Cade. Optimus begins marching towards Vivian as he mounts his sword on his back. Several TRF soldiers scurry to avoid being trampled by the Autobot's massive metal feet. Now certain that something is amiss, Bumblebee moves to intercept his leader. But before the Autobot scout can so much as take a single step, Optimus instantly turns towards Bumblebee, drawing a blaster and pointing it squarely between his eyes. "Take one more step, and you'll lose more than just your voice" The room falls silent. Bumblebee notices the Prime's scarred face and sinister purple eyes. "Prime, what are you doing?" Cade says. Optimus glances down at the human, the barrel of his blaster still inches from Bumblebee's brow. "It's me, Cade. We fought together!" An almighty crash is heard as Optimus slams his fist on the ground in front of Cade. Both he and Vivian nearly lose their footing from the weight of the impact. "I fight for my own kind! My own planet!" *the scene continues the same as before*
@Bandita92
@Bandita92 4 ай бұрын
Transformers 1-3 is peak
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 4 ай бұрын
4
@1FenFen1
@1FenFen1 4 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 underrated gem, kinda
@MalayDea
@MalayDea 4 ай бұрын
I honestly feel like we would have a lot more time to flesh out the story if The Last Knight was a series instead of a movie.
@thevagabond1314
@thevagabond1314 4 ай бұрын
You needing to take a minute from this movie to watch the Forrest fight from ROTF is the realist shit ever
@adamcade604
@adamcade604 4 ай бұрын
I think the hole issue with the aspect ratio didn't happen because they were using 4 different types of cameras for every scene, based on what Sylvester Stallone did with Rocky 4, it was easy to convert the original full screen of the theatrical version to the wide screen for the new edition. Michael bay simply didn't want to get that detail because he probably wanted to get over this production as quick as possible!
@johnpattison6882
@johnpattison6882 4 ай бұрын
That’s a fair point I never actually thought about. Aspect ratio changing is a super easy thing (it’s just an effect you can put on your timeline when editing), so yeah, it makes sense that Michael Bay just didn’t wanna worry about it
@adamcade604
@adamcade604 4 ай бұрын
​​@@johnpattison6882 also in addition to your comments on Michael hay, when people and fans were saying things like "you ruined my childhood" they were talking as if transformers was ever this deep emotionally investing show, no it was literally made to sell toys, in fact the reason Optimus died in the 1986 animated movie wasn't because the writers thought that it would up the stakes of the story, no they literally did it because his toy sellers had declined. It's not like he took lord of the rings and turned ot into generic bloated fantasy movie. Btw, you mentioned in the previous review that they removed 40 minutes from the movie, do we know what things were actually cut?
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 4 ай бұрын
​@@adamcade604that rumour was fake. Yes a lot was cut but its all just extended shots that made scenes longer, and alternate dialogue.
@jacksondavies3595
@jacksondavies3595 4 ай бұрын
People like to say Michael Bay didn't care about these movies, but I do think he cared to some extent about the original. He cut down his salary so that he could pay for the movie's action scenes. He named his dog "Bonecrusher". I do think he cared about at least making Transformers 2007, but these movies just seem so sterile and hollow in comparison. BTW, can't wait for you to review Dead Man's Chest.
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts 4 ай бұрын
He cared about making the first 3 and its very obvious when he said tf3 was his last film (before coming back for tf4) and said by tf5 he made too many films.
@jospehpenn3033
@jospehpenn3033 4 ай бұрын
Honestly, Prime vs. Bumblebee could've worked, especially if he included the "random new power of taking and removing limbs" and prime is thinking hes winning, but bee removed him limbs and such before they can be ripped off and eventually optimus catches on and starts destorying individual limbs, basically putting Bumblebee on his lasy leg until the only thing he can is ask him to remember
@Zodiac3107
@Zodiac3107 4 ай бұрын
I like this movie... When the robots are on screen.
@ilikepigeons6101
@ilikepigeons6101 4 ай бұрын
An hour heap of fax. Your feelings for this film is our feelings for it too ofc, it's so sad to see what a transformers movie would look like if Bay was actually bad at it, and TLK was proof of that, wish he didnt burn out like this but I can understand why he did so
@x7lbgamingx
@x7lbgamingx 4 ай бұрын
he returned when my youtube recommended needed him most
@Davon85J
@Davon85J 4 ай бұрын
Truly appreciated all these videos you’ve done on the Bayformers. Too many people shit on them and it’s nice to see someone go through them with a critical analysis but also a fan perspective. I doubt it will happen but I would love to see Bay come back like 10 years from now to the franchise for one last go around.
@dantheman3546
@dantheman3546 4 ай бұрын
I hope you cover the fan film follow up. Rise of Unicron
@maniron1265
@maniron1265 4 ай бұрын
If this actually does exist can you tell me where it's most readily available to watch
@dantheman3546
@dantheman3546 4 ай бұрын
@@maniron1265 sure! It'll launch on the Rise of Unicron youtube channel when it drops after the premiere I'm sure. Since it's a fan project & lacks the ILM resources this stuff does unfortunately take time as they are trying their best to really go for the realistic look the movies have.
@maniron1265
@maniron1265 4 ай бұрын
@@dantheman3546 thanks
@dairydregone7146
@dairydregone7146 4 ай бұрын
Your like "ah shit. Here we go again"
@user-bt9yh8jn1q
@user-bt9yh8jn1q 4 ай бұрын
What makes this movie even worse is that it ends on cliffhanger that wont get resolved at all since they rebooted it.
@StudSnob
@StudSnob 4 ай бұрын
It was sad but understandable when you rage quit, but im so glad you are back to finish the job
@nathanmuir5418
@nathanmuir5418 4 ай бұрын
You should do the bumblebee movie and rise of the beasts
@MrPatpuc
@MrPatpuc 4 ай бұрын
If the horns moved when Pangea split, wouldn't the horns of been snapped off of Unicorns body?
@johnpattison6882
@johnpattison6882 4 ай бұрын
I always assumed it was effectively like braces, slowly moving them over time
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 4 ай бұрын
This and bumblebee almost killed the franchise. Whats heartbreaking is that age of extinction set everything up so beautifully for the last knight to be an incredible film. The story was right there. Yet we got NONE of what was set up
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
Bumblebee was not that not kill the franchise
@giovonniiclayton
@giovonniiclayton 4 ай бұрын
Honestly it’s been going down hill ever sense AOE now we got transformers one which just looks like a generic kids movie 🤦‍♂️
@davudisbarkhanli549
@davudisbarkhanli549 4 ай бұрын
@@giovonniiclaytonaoe was a good one except ratchet and leadfoot’s death
@weik-2936
@weik-2936 3 ай бұрын
I can't believe you didn't mention how the Alliance being a Transformer was completely pointless it doesn't Transform, it doesn't talk to the characters, it doesn't act like anything other than a Submarine
@tmac731
@tmac731 2 ай бұрын
16:00 holy shit, I only saw this movie once and I didn’t even notice Megatron was there
@Ryuji-Theyoung
@Ryuji-Theyoung 4 ай бұрын
we'll never get to see the conclusion of this story or this cast again.
@sdm47
@sdm47 4 ай бұрын
38:15 Well I mean Noah’s wearing an exosuit which amps him up to cybertronian levels but yeah I would’ve greatly preferred it if the exosuit was a giant robot piloted by Noah from the inside rather than whatever the hell mirage did Also second movie is a bit early for exosuits then again second movie is also a bit early for unicron
@sdm47
@sdm47 4 ай бұрын
I honestly thought that the stick was a decoy and that the knights would be holding the real staff or something along those lines In fact I even thought that while watching this video because I completely forgot how it actually went down Not sure whether that says more about me or the movie
@Cloudy.....
@Cloudy..... 4 ай бұрын
I never realized Megatron in the sub scene damn
@rane9096
@rane9096 9 күн бұрын
Wow that shot of Megatron and the sub 😑 and I’m not gonna lie, I was so uninvested in the film at that point that I didn’t even notice it and this is my third time watching it 😂
@mattryan1999
@mattryan1999 4 ай бұрын
So, this is a weird sentence, but this movie should have been longer. All of the Bay Transformers have sloppy editing, but this is the only one where it really ruined the movie. I guarentee there's a really good 3-3 1/2 hour cut of this movie that makes it quite a bit more cohesive sitting on a hard drive somewhere
@GuerillaContra
@GuerillaContra 4 ай бұрын
Im kinda sad you didn't mention the various dialog cuts and changes for the movie. Like they removed dialogs from the knights when they were beating Optimus, or when Megatron and Nitro ambush Optimus he says something completely different. Not to mention Nitro and Onslaught had their voices swapped and different dialogs altogether. Cade throwing away Excalibur after using it etc. Also hilariously Bumblebee and Barricade did have their big rematch.... in an burger advertisement. Which is what I expected to see in the movie itself but yeah it was just straight up cut out of the chase sequence.
@anthonynegron
@anthonynegron 4 ай бұрын
Not me getting a TF: One trailer ad for this video
@supwumbo6621
@supwumbo6621 4 ай бұрын
I was totally under the impression that bayverse bee was the contingency plan for if Optimus turns like he specifically trained for this fight but maybe that’s just outside lore that was injected into it post movie
@leshiy_nd
@leshiy_nd 4 ай бұрын
I just watched hour long review of Marvel's Spider-Man 2, and it went really similar to first part of this masterpiece. And now I gonna watch this video and hope that by the end of it you haven't decided to left your building through a window. Good luck to all of us! 👍
@vincenthorn4767
@vincenthorn4767 Ай бұрын
The bumblebee vs barricade was a terrible letdown
@shadowleon659
@shadowleon659 4 ай бұрын
This is so terrible that it makes Resident Evil The Final Chapter look like Revenge of the Sith and has the same problems as that film.
@sebastianshook6771
@sebastianshook6771 4 ай бұрын
Remember That Resident Evil: The Final Chapter Came Out The Same Year As Transformers: The Last Knight.
@dunkboyxd6618
@dunkboyxd6618 4 ай бұрын
Ur shirt gives me movie theater PTSD😭
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
The Bumblebee movie is a good movie and I think the Bumblebee movie Optimus Prime design is one of the best Optimus Prime designs
@novustalks7525
@novustalks7525 4 ай бұрын
Bumblebee is the worst one
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 no it's not
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 how
@user-bt9yh8jn1q
@user-bt9yh8jn1q 4 ай бұрын
Bumblebee is Booty Batter Butt Cheeks
@1FenFen1
@1FenFen1 4 ай бұрын
@@novustalks7525 I'd say ROTB was the weakest out of all the movies. It's not the "worst" one, but it's too safe and SO bland. Being boring is worse than being awful. Bumblebee at least TRIED to be a real movie.
@lazarquakestopmotion12
@lazarquakestopmotion12 4 ай бұрын
The sheer presence of cybertron would probably throw earth out of its traditional orbit, which would kill all the humans
@jackcox6276
@jackcox6276 4 ай бұрын
love this videos. Would be interested to see videos on Bumblebee and Rise of the Beasts. Do you have a letterboxd account?
@ZeronosVegaZero
@ZeronosVegaZero 4 ай бұрын
Just for clarification, you saying that the whole idea to turn the Bayverse into a cinematic universe that would rival that of the MCU, DCEU/DCU, Star Wars, Monsterverse, etc is simply nothing more than a cash grab? 🤔
@yousrios
@yousrios 4 ай бұрын
Wating for Transformers Prime reviews from you man
@Kumanitan
@Kumanitan 4 ай бұрын
The last knight, more like the last shid & fard at the end of your senior slide am I right- Micheal Bay
@naytny5819
@naytny5819 4 ай бұрын
Finally went back and finished all the movies after not finishing dark of the moon for more than 10 years.... and I actually enjoyed age of extinction and would put it leagues above ROTF and on par with DOTM but The Last Knight really is as bad as peope say I wouldn't even say I was bored watching it I was just disappointed they spent all there marketing on "nemesis prime" for it to last literally 5 mins as pointless hub actually timed it.The movie before they got to europe was actually decent but as soon as Anthony Hopkins spouts expostion for like 30 minutes and we spend more time doing nothing but looking for a plot device spear it falls off a cliff. Worse film in franchise easily.
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
I think after discussing all the Transformers movies in your video series how about looking to the Love Bug movies
@betterthanstarlight
@betterthanstarlight 4 ай бұрын
More like transformers: the last straw
@WaveForReal
@WaveForReal 3 ай бұрын
when is rise of the beasts also your underrated
@dylanbroome7915
@dylanbroome7915 4 ай бұрын
Me to
@LLockdown877
@LLockdown877 4 ай бұрын
Huh isnt the rotb different since bro is legit wearing cybertronian tech? Like how said the only way it could work? 💀
@johnpattison6882
@johnpattison6882 4 ай бұрын
Excalibur is cybertronian tech in the TLK so there is no difference
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts 4 ай бұрын
​@@johnpattison6882 to be fair...I see where you're coming from but the slight difference between cade stopping the blade and Noah pulling optimus is that cade stops said blade with ZERO difficulty. He doesn't stumble, fall over, nothing. Meanwhile Noah at first is pulling prime back but prime still nearly gets sucks into the black hole regardless. It was primal who pulled optimus forward all the way. Both ideas are similar in their execution but at least one has said human struggling to perform such a impossible feat of strength. The other you may as well say is a Mary Sue moment.
@f7or1n
@f7or1n 4 ай бұрын
I think the film had huge potential and i dont hate it as much as i dislike rise of the beasts or bee movie. The thing that ruined TLK for me is using way too much human history for the origins or transformers as knights and for some reason they overused england too which is not that great compared to the other films who were mostly US you know. But i still wish we got TF6 which couldve explained more about TLK and maybe make the people understand that film more. Regarding Nemesis prime i felt like his part of the story was a whole another thing, first you got the ancient england transformers knights and then you got quintessa which dont match that much to a whole story. I don't know what happened but it feels like 2 different people made a story and both got mixed.
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts 4 ай бұрын
How did connecting human history and TF history which has been a staple of the franchise since day 1 ruined the film for you? Unless you're reffering to said history contradicting what the previous films established then why does it matter if human history had cybertronians involved. Plus...does it matter if said history is in the US or not? US isn't the only country the TF should be connected to. Odds are the sequel to tf5 probably would of ignored what tf5 established like the other films did to each other. And the reason why tf5 felt like different stories mixed together is because it was different stories mixed together. In the 2015 TF writer's room, different stories were written. 4 of which came closest to being a reality, tf4 sequel, bumblebee film, cybertronian knights and ww2 prequel story. Now try guessing what happened to the 3 other films (excluding bumblebee)....all 3 films were mashed into 1 and boom, tf5 was born. So instead of going for the original pitch for tf4's sequel, they mashed elements of 2 completely different TF stories with said sequel
@KealstYT
@KealstYT 4 ай бұрын
Lmao your cat
@callmejacob3234
@callmejacob3234 4 ай бұрын
The first three Transformers were great but the last two were terrible. Shia kept the franchise together.
@blueraccoon1088
@blueraccoon1088 4 ай бұрын
Don't get me wrong but a friend of mine said the same thing
@Kaiju-bm4ts
@Kaiju-bm4ts 4 ай бұрын
Shia didn't keep the franchise, bay just didn't care anymore after tf3.
@ranfan1820
@ranfan1820 4 ай бұрын
Lol what Shia kept it together? The transformers are why we watched the movies. All he did was have an eye candy love interest and scream a lot. I really didn't like the humans in these movies in general.
@naytny5819
@naytny5819 4 ай бұрын
Age of Extinction was ok
@rallogoodlove9600
@rallogoodlove9600 4 ай бұрын
W vid
@thabsoffical.-8742
@thabsoffical.-8742 4 ай бұрын
DCEU movie review? Or just man of steel?
@johnpattison6882
@johnpattison6882 4 ай бұрын
Man of Steel Batman v Superman Zack Snyder’s Justice League
@thabsoffical.-8742
@thabsoffical.-8742 4 ай бұрын
@@johnpattison6882 that’s amazing, it would be kinda cool to see some of the other movies in this verse reviewed, you give a very honest breakdown, however I do understand a LOT of the Dceu films are just not good movies what so ever
@kylegraham6923
@kylegraham6923 4 ай бұрын
#ReleaseTheBayCut
@sensevison1464
@sensevison1464 4 күн бұрын
the theatrical cut is the bay cut
@bumblebee6090
@bumblebee6090 4 ай бұрын
Man of Steel💀
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