Transmission Going Into Limp Mode & Taking Off In 5th, May Be Caused By Someone Else's Handiwork!!

[@marklubecke4854]

Fortunately for Ford, mechanics like you are available, to get them back on the road. Not all mechanics would have found that. Well done.

[@lawrencejacob8]

I’m a mechanic so Im glad you found that oring rolled over I know that feeling when the problem slap s you in the lol glad to see Kenny showing these new guys how it done

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Right?! That's such a good feeling. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching!

[@carlw9009]

Not a Ford guy, but I do appreciate the extent of the details you presented for this repair. Most dealers, in my opinion, would be ‘firing the parts cannon’ long before they bothered to find the real problem! Thank you for your integrity and persistence in doing the right thing, going the extra mile to get to the right solution to the problem! This is why you have the followers that you have! BRAVO!! 🙏👏👍🏼😎

[@simonmitchell7439]

Thanks for shutting off the leaky air fitting. The hiss is very loud on mic and white noise is great at masking speech.

[@GeekBoyMN]

I've been a Ford fan since my first car, a 73 Galaxie 500, 3 different gen Tauruses, and a Ranger but none newer than 2001. These days not so much.

[@lowbudgetbob1155]

You would think that an o-ring out of place would have caused issues from square one. It's always nice when a problem manifests itself like that did...

[@SeanBZA]

I could still seal well enough not to set a code, till the o ring had worn from the bypassing fluid to the point the TCM noticed the excess fluid flow, from the pressure being wrong for that set of input and output ratios, and the clutches not getting the right pressure fed to them.

[@michaelszczys8316]

I really like it when you find some ' whoopsie ' like that and it really is the problem. I used to dabble with automatic transmissions as a teen and most people's eyes would just spin in their sockets at the thought of opening one up. I remember working on one of my sister's cars and had the automatic opened up enough to change to front seal and bushing and my brother- in - law came by ( who was a mechanic way more than me ) and even his eyes started twirling to see me attempting to fix a three speed automatic trans.

[@ginog5037]

Great catch Kenny. There is a chance the new solenoid may not work. You know this one is the correct one and is working, minus the o-ring leak. Tuff call, trust they give you the correct part...

[@richardstone5241]

I would suggest you check all of the "o" rings for swelling. And, ask the customer if they put any kind of transmission "magic" crap in. The "o" ring looked odd.

[@pootthatbak2578]

I think someone pushed it in dry, and wasnt concentrating enuf to " feel it seat"

[@richardstone5241]

@@pootthatbak2578 Very possible.

[@michaelszczys8316]

O- rings can be finicky . If they don't slide, they try to roll. If they roll, they might roll right out of the groove. Don't take them lightly

[@SeanBZA]

You really should fix air leaks. Air is the most expensive item in the shop, and leaking air is like you driving a car with the fuel return line disconnected, pouring fuel out on the road.

[@robertlewis3712]

I have to believe you checked the other solenoids too.

[@EnglishTurbines]

My first thought also. Clearly a Chimp assembled it...🤔😳😮🇬🇧

[@bobby9195]

Happy Bunny Egg day Mr Kenny, hope all is well with y'all at home. Hiding lots of colored eggs for the grand babies. 🤓🐇

[@gerryhuff4624]

Interesting video. I like watching that kind of stuff even though I'm just a DIYer

[@gn4720]

The transmission shop that replaced mine on a Ford truck called it a capture plate.

[@joebutchko2223]

You ought to just do the o ring! Five will get you ten that's the problem- save the customer dough and you're the best mechanic in the world in his eyes...

[@EnglishTurbines]

Seriously, I'd be taking every other solenoid out too to check them. Some monkey mechanic obviously assembled it like that. How they didn't notice the dry seal walking out the groove is beyond me. Then again, I'm an Engineer, not a mechanic....🤔😳😮🇬🇧

[@davidlampe4153]

Good find, good logic can’t make this stuff up. Obvious clue how that O ring was bent. Thanks!

[@philm9750]

Thanks for the videos. I know you’ll find the root cause of the issue. Just a reminder to check all the electrical grounds & ground straps). They should all measure just a few ohms with battery disconnected. Good grounds and ground straps are used to reduce noise on many electrical wires, sensors & modules.

[@oldbiker9739]

your a great mechanic thinking things through Kenny.

[@goldwingconepatterns2565]

Looks like the o-ring was crushed. I wonder if it was that way from the factory....looking forward to part 2.

[@murrayhill4016]

I am impressed. Good work Ken.

[@gregiles908]

2003 BTRE 4spd LE93 auto in my Australian Falcon. It's got the wiring loom instead of the Lead Unit. I feel better with the Loom. I know what you mean by when you find an issue visually, it feels great to think "yupp, those symptoms definitely match having that O Ring problem on that exact Solenoid". Having an electrical component issue feels a bit like hocus pocus. Seems like the Customer should have a working S1 Solenoid and Lead Unit as Spares.

[@leso204]

it comes to something when auto manutacturers dont know what componants are in something they produce .................

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

I literally thought my service advisor had received incorrect info. It's crazy to me that Ford did that. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching

[@billseay6399]

Hey thanks Kenny I've been working on one of my transmissions with the same problem

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

@billseay6399 I'm glad I could help. Thanks for watching. I hope your project goes smoothly. Keep wrenching! Kenny

[@jbbatulisjr291]

Wife’s 2022 Explorer Timberline has 10 speed transmission as well.. Interesting and informative.. Thank you sir!!

[@LesReeves]

If it were me I would check the other soleniods for wear on the "o" rings to be on the safe side. Cheers.

[@willemstreutgers1154]

Kenny now you are there check and replace the other O-rings.

[@timothyoneill3154]

Nice when you find confirmation of your diagnosis.

[@eppyify]

I have to tell you, some of your videos are more suspenseful than an old time suspense movie and this was one of them, didn't want your video to end till the end but for obvious reasons had to end, love watching!

[@motorwolfe]

that o-ring looked like it was trying to explore other areas of the alphabet after being forcibly integrated, yikes. interesting Ford terms that part a "lead frame", that's different... I've replaced those on euro cars as a "conductor plate" and has the exact same failure points, integrated speed sensor and o-rings around the TCU connector socket.

[@marlinyoung1606]

Ford is not the only place you can get those I bought a dorman from autozone for an 09 Lincoln Navigator car has been running perfect for 3 years now

[@bobhartman2571]

Very interesting. Wonder how that happened.

[@partsdave8943]

Daimler Chrysler aka Mercedes, called that a Connector Plate on the NAG1 transmission. Betcha Kenny remembers those!!

[@mikejerrett7354]

Very interesting, you make it easy to understand and follow along, can't wait to see the next part 😊

[@dennissmith8199]

Ya just never know what surprises you'll find sometimes, do you? Might be just one little cockeyed solenoid causing the problem. Good video Kenny!

[@jthonn]

Gee boss, I never fixed a transmissian before,(quote), lol. That is interesting Kenny. That transmission looks like new on the inside, fluid and all. I would hate to mess with it myself, but wouldn't it be wise to check the other solenoids while you are in there? Yes I know the one you pulled is screwed up. The o-ring fix may do the trick, but I am with you, why take the chance at this point. Another great and informative video, thanks Kenny.

[@JettaJack]

Concerned that two parts being changed might not have identified exactly the problem. It might only be that hosed up o-ring.

[@anonymuswere]

the way the audio quality changed when the mic came back, makes you wonder if the driver updated on you or something :P I wonder if this might be a case of "ham handed dum-dum" like you hint at in the title...which, btw, is why i don't try and do repairs myself (throw dyspraxia in the mix, and...). next bit should be interesting.

[@williammiller2750]

Great find!!

[@haneyoakie14]

Happy Easter Kenny & family. Amazing explanation of the problem and the cure. Thank you

[@FreedomInc]

I'm aware there is really no connection here. I had a 4r100 that when cold. Put it in drive and it shifted fine. Once at operating temp. It would act like it was stuck in overdrive. But I could manually shift it through all the gears. Fluid was flawless. It wind up being a one way sprag had worn. Once at temp it would cause it to malfunction in some way. So although that 02 7.3 with the 4r100 is 100 different. They do have some similar parts.

[@dhgmllcshea5038]

One more benefit of being "a bit" over on tire pressure is less likely to ding/crack your $$$ rim when you hit a pothole or debris.

[@kenschneider5019]

When you do a 2 part video please link it so I c@n watch it Thanks

[@jeffjankiewicz5100]

That o ring is done, Best to replace that solenoid with OEM one. Well done Kenny. Thanks for explaing it too us. Happy Easter to you and the Mrs.

[@francodeiuliis1562]

Nice catch Cheers from Nova Scotia

[@josephfleeman]

Hope no one has installed the wrong solenoid prior to you working on this truck.

[@MitzvosGolem1]

Check solenoid ohms to see if open or shorted . I keep transmission fluid cool as possible. So much plastic and electrical stuff in red hot oil not good.

[@rickburt7055]

That's o ring lol

[@jcnikoley]

"That there". Pick one.

[@brmelectric]

Your good. I like your method. Great video.

[@zeke112964]

Just do a resistance test on the solenoid and compare it to the others

[@ewconway]

Very interesting how the solenoid o-ring was messed up. Did somebody take apart this transmission previously??

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

something definitely went on before the vehicle ended up here but the owner isn't telling us anything. Thanks for watching

[@user-pq1tb8zx7e]

Just have to love fords

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Some models just make me shake my head. Thanks for watching & keep wrenching

[@gr8xr7]

Happy Easter

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Greetings from Hawaii!

[@mckinleygoetz9855]

Awesome information

[@user-zc6dn9ms2l]

It was like that from factory . They lubed only the o ring . The receiving portion was the one that needed lube . Not the oring

[@leonardhirtle3645]

Someone was inside the transmission before it came to you.

[@mikX4]

How you know the other solenloid o'rings are ok?

[@juans6639]

I'm lucky. I have NEVER been a Ford owner.

[@2WatchAndComment]

should replace all of them while your at it.

[@jdesaavedra0432]

I will bet a dime to a dollar that sloppy assembly was the cause of this all along. It just took a few miles for the o-ring to give up from being out of the groove.

[@Mustangg16]

Gotta love a content creator who responds to zero comments. My man JimmyMakingitwork in Kissimmee responds to each and every comment. Because people watching and commenting is what makes him money... Just two cents

[@mattpardue1250]

You get Lucas oil on your mike

[@davealexander1201]

So a leed frame is the same as a back plane in industrial maintenance for a PLC.

[@glennfields8121]

Great find brother Kenny! You are the grand wizard of solving mysteries. You are to be commended for your fine detective work. Keep wrenching.

[@Mustangg16]

Keep looking and eventually you will hit it

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Brother Glenn, I hope you are doing well. This one has been something! Thanks for watching. Mrs Wrenching says hello!

[@KeithMilton-rl1mg]

Kenny try placing your new mike on your collar. Sometimes your voice is clear and sometimes not.

[@johnsimmonds4144]

You better check the swaybar mount

[@chrisaris8756]

I think I would have bitten the bullet and put in a rebuilt transmission. Is there a reason, Kenny, why you are getting into such depth on this one? Very interesting mind!!!! Cheers.

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

This one has taken me on a few twists & turns. I have had to do a lot of research & thought I would share the info for other wrenchers that might come across the sames issues. Thanks for watching!

[@marksmith7896]

Great video !!!!!!! Very interesting indeed !!!!! Like !!!!

[@peterbenson3776]

Unbelievable. Carelessness

[@oceanmariner]

You have a lot of extra labor. Is Ford going to cover all of that, too? Or will they beat the price down? Have lunch on me.Thanks!

[@WrenchingWithKenny]

Thank you soo much !!

[@pootthatbak2578]

This is a point a technician needs discipline. I would be so tempted to inspect the other solenoids

[@robintraina217]

so much knowledge in that head of yours?.

[@stevieb.1473]

Was it Built Ford tuff?.. I feel bad for the person that relys on this vehicle, thinking they spent their hard earned money buying it and believed they got a solid product. Only to have problems.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Are those valve body screws the JIS Japanese type?

[@michaelthompson7554]

More plastic bullshot. More electrical bullshot. Junk!

[@iFixJunk]

Always nice to find a smoking gun.

[@Michael-yi4mc]

Old school mechanics take it apart. New school mechanics just replace the entire transmission.

[@CruisinCaprice]

Or we spend a night or two learning about later model technology 😂 I really miss my old school cars, they were so easy

[@LesReeves]

New school mechanics are not taught how to pull a transmission apart They either send it to a transmission specialist or as you said replace the whole transmission.On another note transmissions are getting so intricate no one knows how to repair them.

[@mph5896]

I have 1/2 a dozen different transmissions I still rebuild. To learn a new one, it takes time and research though. Plus 1 wrong move, and its coming apart again. I had a 6f35 apart 3 times🙃. Got a bad piston from Ford and a sticky valve in a reman ford valve body. 4t65e I just drop them down and pull the guts out of them. If the clutches aren't smoked, I can be in and out in 3 hours.

[@michaelszczys8316]

​@@LesReeveseven old school mechanics didn't mess much with an automatic. They were always regarded in the same category as space ships.

[@LesReeves]

@@mph5896 Yeah I never mucked around with them .My boss had an old guy he called & he would bring a reco over & i would do the swap.

[@bigdaddy63978]

👍👍

[@armandorojo4113]

Should this ever happen again that you lose the audio, could you do a voice-over?

[@kyzercube]

Kenny, just out of curiosity, couldn't you have confirmed which is the correct solenoid by activating it with a scan tool after dropping the pan and before you removed the valve body? You should be able to both feel and hear the solenoid actuate like that. The reason I'm saying this is because this is how I was able to identify a specific solenoid that I knew was bad on a vehicle. I'm glad you were able to find it and confirm via physical damage. I wouldn't have been that lucky in my case lol

[@seanarfons861]

Hi sir, how are you doing ?

[@nickg9021]

I don't get how you're supposed to order a new solenoid based on which part number is on the one you are replacing . How can anyone be sure that some hack didn't pull it apart before you , and just throw the WRONG solenoid in there, perhaps from a junk trans from a scrap yard ? Now you are going to replace it with another just like it ? Not knowing the complete history of that truck could cause issues , through no fault of your own . If that happened , you are heading down a deep rabbit hole . I hope that isn't the case , but Ford's inability to correctly specify the right part number should not fall on your shoulders .

[@mph5896]

Those solenoids have different specs on each one due to manufacturing variables. The total package gives you a code you program into the computer to get them to shift properly. On something like the 6f50, you just replace the entire assembly and flash it into the pcm.

[@nickg9021]

@@mph5896 Thanks for the added clarity . From what you're saying , it sounds like Kenny's plan to replace a single component is about to become complicated. I'll want to see his part 2 of this video just to satisfy my curiosity . I wish him luck .

[@mph5896]

@@nickg9021 He can replace a single solenoid, BUT the replacement has to be in the same range as the original. There are 4 choices per solenoid of what spec it can be. That's why he mentioned he has to drop the valve body to see which solenoid it has in it, then order the new one.

[@JimSampson-y6v]

Yep... I wonder if that solenoid was replaced at some point in the trucks life ! Is it the right or wrong solenoid. Yes.. the 'o' ring fail was a problem but is that a clue that someone replaced the solenoid ?.. it just might be the completely wrong solenoid ..Anyway... does Ford sell all 7 solenoids as a 'matched package' .. ? Then I guess ya gotta flash the computer after installing em. ? Maybe i'm over-thinking this, but i'm leaning towards replacing all 7... Anyway Kenny... good work....

[@jdesaavedra0432]

So, this POS is a POS to work on. I personally want a truck with a bullet-proof transmission. When they're all done, the owner still has a Ford. I'm always torn about using OEM parts when the problem was caused by a defective OEM part. Maybe Aisin makes one?

[@donames6941]

Someone put it together dry

[@aldonco]

Dry is never good.

[@scottymoondogjakubin4766]

Crappy cheap plastic parts with the quality of a happy meal kids toy ! No wonder they fail and ford designing unique non standardized parts will he there downfall

[@aldonco]

Absolute junk and I am convinced that all new vehicles are pieces of crap. The manufacturers are smoking crack. When you have vehicles made in the 80,90,00 that are easier and cheaper to work on and more reliable. My earlier Super Duties 7.3 's are still rocking like when I bought them 23 years ago.

[@rickburt7055]

Interesting to me that you found a bad one ring but your going to change the entire solenoid anyway. I think that if it was your vehicle it would be getting a new one ring. Just saying.

[@f.demascio1857]

It is very possible that the solenoid is damage as well. When pressure solenoids get out of spec. (Like a slipped o-ring) they often get spoiled.

[@aldonco]

It is too much work to take it apart, not to mention if that Solenid is bad it could cause major problems down the road. It is better to err on the side of caution and change it out.

[@whiskeyfamily6717]

Plz go back to your old mic

[@dickbiggerstaff5729]

My 49 Nash w/3 on the tree and overdrive has never had this problem, lol.

[@dickbiggerstaff5729]

And you thought the solenoid was hard to get. Where in the world do you find a green o-ring, lol?