Transport Fever 2 - Ep 22 - Changing Demand

[@fetzie23]

"He's going to remember he demolished that road in 3...2...1..." :)

[@twocvbloke]

Fun fact, British Rail actually "forgot" they had steam engines running in Wales on narrow-gauge lines quite late in the game, those engines are now on the heritage line between Devil's Bridge and Aberystwyth, as seen on HubNut's videos a number of times as he used to live by the line... :)

[@georgeratcliffe7752]

Ah a fellow hubnut watcher!

[@buryy4764]

Speaking of BR, transport fever 2, where’s my hst?

[@davidty2006]

@@buryy4764 theres a mod on the workshop for it.

[@-REQU-]

The trucks can split their load between the drop off stations so you only need 1 line.

[@bullseyes1983]

Squirrel, check this: 39:15. You've duplicated the locomotives . There are 6 extra ones, with a cost over 5M/year each. Love the series man, keep it up!

[@Luckyluc2911]

Squirrel" i need to reroute the cargo track" demolishes the track and puts it back in the same place.

[@mattyuty]

I'm currently at 38:13 as of writing this, and I just need to comment about that bus stop that was left out of the Hyde line. Poor guy, hope Mr. Squirrel connects you.

[@Shiv-jw5jk]

Can always rely on Squirrel as he does not fail to entertain us! P.S. Thanks for triggering me hahaha. After everything felt sorted, Squirrel goes on to adding 2 locos for one train. Bruh moment. 😂

[@SouthWalesTrainSpotter]

What’s the time of that?!?!

[@walterneto670]

@@SouthWalesTrainSpotter 39:22

[@SouthWalesTrainSpotter]

@@walterneto670 thanks

[@vishnumenon6541]

It might have been a misclick as the game seemed to have lagged at that moment but it triggered me too😅

[@SadShadow004]

also the rout is busted a bit :))

[@srrk2508]

You should've built a heritage line for the legendary steam train!

[@haydenc2742]

Left side to right side of map...you already have an airport in the north left...put an airport besides the hub on the east...fly the folks back and forth (ensure good number of passengers) Wooo...binge watched this entire series...Loving it! Keep em coming!!!!

[@mutalimashamba4503]

To repeat @SnopFop 39:20 you added two locos to the new pax trains, that's why they were so expensive

[@panopolis8051]

Your intercity train lines are coming along nicely, I might suggest making it a loop. You already nearly have a full circle already, and would allow for one lane to go clockwise and the other lane go counterclockwise, instead of all this back and forth. As for connecting the east and west halves of the map, trains would probably make more sense, but you know we want more planes :D

[@vishnumenon6541]

He should've circuited Bradford-Mablethorpe via Thatcham imo.

[@shake_well6923]

I work closely with Internal Logistics. The plane making that much money makes sense, the same cargo from Malaysia to Canada will cost me 3000$ by boat, but 25000$ by plane. Sometimes it's worth the cost because our clients needs stuff in an extreme rush. You need to pay that much more to have it in 3 days instead of 3 weeks.

[@getkarthikin]

Whatever you do, please don’t stop with this map. I am emotionally connected and would want to move in to Bradford on Avon

[@Bestmate-eo8yw]

It is a real place in britain.

[@lkslokinhow]

09:10 No, it's not 80kph. 80 kph is for the country road. You are looking at a city road there and it is 50 kph. The larger city road is 60kph.

[@thesteelrodent1796]

25 years is not very old for a train. IRL we still have loads of those 1950s Nohab diesel driving around all over Europe, after running for many, many thousands of hours. Granting many of them are only use for work trains (building and maintaining tracks), but that's more to do with the 1200 hp than anything else

[@thomastheelephant115]

Love how the series has grown Ima few vids behind so I’ll binge them tomorrow.

[@RedMenace446]

good god lol, imagine having a train, not a tourist train, not a muesem train, but a company in use workhorse train that runs from 1948-1998, and the company just kinda forgot about it lol

[@Frostrazor]

EAST TO WEST Connection: I think Mitcheldean to Ludgershall is a smarter play. You've already got a line going to those two northern towns on the west side (Worthing and Biggleswade) into/from Mitcheldean. By adding a line from Mitcheldean to Ludgershall you bring in those two northern towns - population can go from Worthing to Mitcheldean and change trains to Ludgershall. Then they can ride that line through the four towns. There's less water to cross at that point. Then a line from Twickenham to Worthing connects those two northern towns to that main line too. This gives you two ways to get the north into Twickenham/Ludgershall area. You will also linked all west and east. Then a line from Loughton to Mitcheldean brings that in line with access south towards Bradford, and to the west out of Mitcheldean.

[@stephenmurray9850]

The only thing about planes is the capacity of the airport to handle multiple lines at once, at least until you get the chance to put 2 runways in otherwise you get that problem of the planes been "waved off" . Also Bradford is too central and the planes will only have "short" hops from one place to the other therefore not paying as good. I think trains are the way to go for the moment . Great series , love watching your game play. Thanks.

[@billyjoe3309]

17:54 “Fefty Yeeersz”. I laughed so hard I damn near pissed myself!

[@himanshugupta1529]

Two locomotives for a train!! How fast you wanted to go?🤣

[@fishpop]

Yeah, double-header those bad boys!

[@STRIDER_503]

31:59 Uncle Squirrel was feeling a little old back there... you demolished the truck route for that PAX track 5 mins ago! Ugh! xD Anyway, happy new year and congratulations on another successfully finished series!

[@James-ep2bx]

I'll just point out there's a cargo line already crossing the wide point of the river

[@HenryYang-2623]

Erm Squirrel, I hate to that guy, but you put 2 Locos on each of the train in Hyde to Henley Pax, Which mean you got 12 Locos pulling 6 trains on that line

[@fetzie23]

The Jeremy Clarkson line

[@GrandTheftAidan]

39:40 … instantly laughed when I saw that train leaving with a loco on back 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@turnerg]

@@fetzie23 Powah! Speeeed!

[@Nicmadis]

You simply fail to understand his british genius.

[@flaminG-Ghost]

That's a dual power line, ultimate speed unlocked!!!!

[@davidkent5626]

You could always make a pax line from ludgershall to Bradford via a train line that parallels the cargo line across the river. I would also create a line like you mentioned linking Mitchelldean, biggleswade, worthing, twickenham but have it start in Bradford you would then have 2 connections east to west and all cities would then be connected with pax. I should also mention I was saying "you demolished the road" when trying to figure where the break was.

[@alexmyles2476]

Connecting to the left to right, I'd add two extra tracks to the bridge already in place as FL's then add a connection to Henley instead, seams like the easier and more practical idea

[@taoheron282]

If you connect a rail route from michldeen to ludgershall, that will be the connection; cause both are connected to either side and it won’t effect the shipping route to much since it will be moving over a smaller body of water compared to if it went over the massive section of water therefore could also reduce the price of creating the rail since there won’t be as much bridge used. I really do enjoy your videos and everything about them thx for the entertainment 👍

[@giga_plays8124]

I don't know if anybody already said it, but maybe it would be nice if you at some point in time use the Industry expanded add on with mail and waste on this map.

[@legotrainfan460119]

Most resource-efficient suggestion for connecting Bradford to Ludgershall: Use the existing railroad bridge over the river by upgrading it to high-speed track. Most expensive suggestion for connecting Bradford to Ludgershall: Passenger aircraft.

[@Rebelassassin1]

Squirrel; For your east to the west line over the water is to find a spot that less mass of water; So head south from Bradford and smooth cut back east over the less body of water in the south, After Crossing east smooth cut back to the north where you wanted to connect. The second Idea is to head north from the existing line and head over the bottleneck over the water just north of Bradford. Overall, I'll be looking at buying the game to play as well and I've enjoy watching yours videos.

[@sneid3936]

Mahnn you gotta add forests to make your map look nice, especially along the train tracks

[@tootzmcgee7144]

I would connect Micheldean to Lugisol (I know the spelling there is atrocious). It's a relatively thin part of the river and gives you a natural bridge. You could also expand the various seaports and run a ferry line in the south. I had a desert map with some isolated cities and ran a passenger train to a ferry stop to connect them. Wasn't the most efficient but it made for a nice touristy city (electric trams and all) and it looked cool as anything.

[@tootzmcgee7144]

As you said, I don't think the distances on this map are long enough for an airport. You could run shuttle trains to airports on opposite ends of the map? I forget which cities that would entail. Not really sure how I'd approach air passenger services here with the size of the map and clustering of large cities.

[@fernandocnobrega]

43:45 Connect all the riverside cities with rovercrafts!!!

[@pheladikagisokgowana9625]

I love the series... I wish you could chuck out an episode everyday

[@Smiffy_88]

I’d suggest making an ‘X’ on plane routes. One arm of the x is already in, in freight. The other arm is Pax from Worthing/Biggleswade to Princes Risborough (sp). Fast trains to each airport from all destinations maybe?

[@zahranishak9093]

39:41 looks like you put 2 locomotives to the train Squirrel

[@Knuckism]

@ Squirrel, I dont know how you do it but you keep on top of things. I really do enjoy watching you manage all this madness , would I ever like to play this myself ? probably not. Simply too much stuff to micromanage. Great series of videos though and been watching since the first episode , keep on transporting! :)

[@NaomiClareNL]

Some thoughts on the passenger trains: - extend the Thatcham to Romsey line down southeast to Princes something or other via that other place down there where there is a shuttle service if memory serves me correctly. - use the million dollar track at Bradford and connect it to the Leigh line. - use the beginning of the Leigh line and bend it to the east of Leigh and make a shuttle service Bradford-Leigh-Romsey, cut the busses. - make Bradford-Mitcheldean to Ludgershall or Twickenham connection and skip Leigh. - or go direct Bradford-Ludgershall and continue to Twickenham. - Or use that hovercraft to connect Ludgershall with Bradford, with perhaps a bit of bus service to the watrerside thrown in.It is different. - finally, connect that short shuttle service at Worthing to Twickenham.

[@naerbo19]

I just bought the game and was playing the campaign where I was to use the Red Arrow to chauffeur Mr. Churchill around Switzerland. Waited 3 in game years for it to unlock, but low and behold, I forgot the multiple units category. Love this game already. But if you want to connect Bradford, you could run a line south to connect to Henley instead. Also, the trainline you built at 39:21 have a train front and a train back. That is mighty expensive. Did you mean to do that, because it seemed a little like a misclick.

[@DoubleJJizzle]

What I like doing the most, is using a variety in my transportation methods. Trains going to boats, going to busses, etc etc. So to me, my thoughts on how you combine the two together, is by training them out to the coast, boating them across to the other side, and busing them to the city.

[@riverrat5865]

ok i love this a ton and have binged the who thing over the last 3 days. I think its time to make that big water crossing track into a 6 track concrete bowtie conection that lets the tracks make a loose x. also more small planes and airplanes. next map/play would love to see you try your theory of max profit from planes from the starting point

[@gloriagayer4761]

When it gets to the point of "there's too much now to micro-manage", a great feature to implement would be AI assistants - I'd love to see a pop-up that says "AI such-and-such suggests upgrading x to y because of z, click ok to action".

[@cwlayton6857]

Been watching you’re videos for the past few years and I’ve enjoyed every single one keep up the good work

[@ThePippin89]

With Bradford as a hub, you could create another hub on the left and then connect them with a plane. Might not be the most efficient idea but it would be great to see!

[@electron75]

Probably ludgershall

[@m0ro]

I'm a little sad you didn't replace the last steam train with just a more high end steam train just to maintain history.

[@playtym2893]

to connect left to right side do either a train from Bradford (go up further on the river and not at the widest part of the channel) into Twickenham, or passenger plane from Bradford to one of the left side upper cities. (maybe put the two airports right next to each other) then just use a train line from the left- northern cities to Twickenham. I can see Twickenham becoming a new left-side hub.

[@mrkvatheepic2913]

connect Ludgershall and Bradford by planes and connect those airfields to train stations.

[@Punnikin1969]

An airport hub at Bradford linking not only East and West but serving as a central hub for all cities would probably allow air transport to all cities fairly easily as well as a central hub for cargo moving forward. Considering the size of the map, a central hub would make it easier to move goods to the proper locations and in higher quantities. I can see your smaller outlying cities benefiting hugely from that. At this point, making money off a single air transport line is almost secondary. With more efficient infrastructure you could better supply cities with goods and passengers and also clean up the map by removing superfluous train cargo lines.

[@Wrenchinrob98]

@Squirrel @ 39:19 Hyde - Henley Pax think you accidentally added 2 electric locos on to the train line! Extra cost may be due to that 😁😅

[@flaminG-Ghost]

I would make an X plane line and a five-city star line... Worthing to Princess already has an airport, put pax on it as well... another one from Sandhurst to Maplethorpe (right? the city in the top right corner)... After that have an airport in Bradford and connect all five cities with a few big 747s, A five-city star-line... Bradford-Maplethorpe-Worthing-Sandhurst-Princess Star line... This way you get diagonals covered with 2 lines and 1 mega line being common connecting Bradford to rest airports, the more you travel the more profitable the line gets... That's how I play, 4 airports at corners and one in the central "capital" city...

[@Stig472]

ITS THE ROAD SQUIRREL, THE ROAD!!!!

[@Argoxie]

Did you notice that you accidentally put 2 locomotives in the Hyde-Henley Line. It's astetically pleacing and realistic but expencive as all hell 10mil/year instead of 5mil/year just for the locomotives themselves + the 3mil/year for the 6 copartments

[@peteberry6425]

That was as always very entertaining, I sympathise with the brain fart lol, if you're interested Ludgershall is pronounced more Luggershall, I only say as I used to live near there. keep up the great videos!

[@krisavi]

24:00 Worthing Trams are Normal maintenance

[@gg.youlubeatube6249]

Local delivery line can handle several drop-off stops. It might not be efficient money wise, but it doesnt matter. It is easy to manage and money makers are trains and plains.

[@hiddewieringa3911]

Oh my god you bet ya I was screaming about that road and those bus stops XD

[@DaSpecialZak]

a train line loop will be interesting, but you will need a tgv or an ice to do that, probably stick to pax aeroplanes

[@donsmith3880]

Enjoying the series!

[@raphaelliffey4195]

Twickenham via Ludgershall via existing bridge over water and link into Bradford. That way you can have twickenham and Ludgershall as co-hubs and connect with the east side of the map whilst already using existing infrastructure

[@gentuxable]

17:55 I'm sure that's how the guy from the transport agency in my city reacts when he checks my line... 50 years???

[@arokh72]

I feel there's also the potential for pax shipping between Bradford and Ludgershall. Use the existing ports and just add pax docks, and run a bus or tram service to the docks. Hovercraft would make a good rapid pax shipping option IMO.

[@peteralexander3034]

Loving this series Squirrel, very nice job so far. Taking a slight turn from the constant upgrade side of things, to add a bit more of a fantasy element to this play through. Would you be open to making a heritage line for passengers on this map in future episodes? I think even as the map continues to update through the years, once enough money is made, it would be cool to still have steam trains running around somewhere on the map. Just a suggestion of course, keep up the great work on these videos mate :)

[@willlan7739]

This video is nice, I like it because it entertains me

[@Mandalorian0501]

I think the best way would be planes, unless you wanna do a rail to ship setup to connect the sides, but you could do the bridge but it could affect the ship lanes more than what they already are affected

[@alvarhuvila634]

you could make a bus connection from twickenham to worthing and/or biggleswade

[@Davide608]

43:07 FLYYYYYYY !

[@jfrosten5308]

In the end for the pax line from Bradford run it under the track, then make a loop to connect to your existing bridge and then easy turn in to Ludgershall.

[@jacobfitzgerald6050]

squirrel what you need to do is create one big mainline circle just for passenger trains maybe frieght to cuz ive on'y done passenger make a huge loop that goes inbetween the cities and connects to an outside line to enter each of the cities one by one and then have one long fast passenger train or freight and making sure the freight will be long enough for the platform or bigger platoform no prefrence and that should help bring in a chunk of change

[@Fallub]

Still a great series. Please continue it. And planes all the way btw.

[@WrickettsGaming]

When your empire is so big, it takes you longer to figure out what the problem is, then it does to fix it. And then to fix your last fix. And then fix that fix.

[@Adman-p4j]

KEEP THEM COMING please!

[@TallulahSoie]

Lol, that feel when you realize problems before Paul. :p

[@simon26westlands]

@39:22 not sure if you saw it, your trains locos are T&T (top & tail)

[@stefanblackadder5236]

Planes! But DC 3’s for the short routes haha

[@jasonwarren1971]

I think you should link Bradford to Twickenham going over the water just south of Mitcheldean . That would help grow Twickenham and Hyde. Great videos

[@leonprovan2284]

How about making Hyde a mini hub as a gateway to the north? Expand the station and have a line heading to Worthing, either connecting to the main line or creating a Worthing South station with a bus shuttle run to the main station? As far as east to west you could follow the cargo line and have a parallel bridge so you will have old style iron bridge alongside modern concrete bridge.

[@sicot10]

Make one big loop around the map, double track it. Put a line in clock wise (CW) and put in another line counter clock wise (CCW)

[@brendanmassaro9595]

There already is a cargo ship between luegershall and bradford. Maybe you just add a passenger platform to those docks to create your first pax shipping?

[@fishpop]

21:21 And so Dr Beeching has won...

[@attilasido3272]

I think Ludgershall - Mitcheldean ship line would be perfect. Also you could extend the eastern line up to Biggleswade and Wothing

[@isaacknecht974]

you could use ships to move pax across the water from to a train station that could connect with Bradford

[@vishnumenon6541]

But wouldn't that result in chaos in the already busy waterway b/w Bradford and Ludgershall ?

[@isaacknecht974]

@@vishnumenon6541 that's true it is already pretty crowded

[@shs6849]

I usely use tunnel under cities for trucks, it use some space to get road level, but it's worth it.

[@uh60rider2000]

Pax line via aviation from the existing airport to Bradford area ;-)

[@erikstrombert9605]

Hi Squirrel, Awesome videos in this series. Thanks :)

[@BBD0984]

In Loughton....how come they've built the other side of the tracks? Thought the towns wouldn't cross over the tracks. And does that part have road access to the rest of the town??

[@Frostrazor]

i was wondering same thing - it did not appear to. They looked stranded.

[@cl1xor]

You can have multiple dropoff points for a single line. Trucks are running less efficient though but it’s less micro on your cargo routes

[@prem8801]

Squirrel bring the passenger airplane if not then really fast trains would do. Also I think you have forgot to build the headquarters in a really exotic area as you said in one of the video.

[@tonythreepies9272]

Passenger air between the hubs gets my vote!

[@hovesfire1851]

You could route a train line under the shipping line almost making your own euro tunnel or you could have a passenger air line connecting loughton and henley allowing them to move between each other

[@Mr_Jake_Smith]

Goodness me Squirrel, What a Mess today's Video was.. Maybe you should take a weekend or something to rest and recouperate? Either way, linking east and west? That's an Easy one! You just got Passenger airlines! Fast and Effective, with trains from the airport to the hubs!

[@ojosshiroy8544]

The tools are not being delivered properly via truck in ludgershall. You can see there's a huge load just waiting to be delivered in the truck station

[@Phoenix84]

You should connect Henley to Bradford alongside the existing bridge

[@mahqueen253]

I would like to see some passenger plane bringing about people from both sides of the map. Maybe a 737

[@Strengine]

A plane mate ✈️😉

[@georgeratcliffe7752]

I think that a henley-bradford link would be a good suggestion to link the two sides of the map

[@racingweirdo]

Follow the excisting freight line and make a triangle on both sides

[@KadinoTheDumpling]

U could use boats idk high speed hovercrafts?

[@TheRyamrebo]

Yay Transport Fever is back :)

[@georgekati4351]

I would suggest choosing 5 hubs (north, south, east, west and a central one) and connect them all together with airlines

[@andybrockbank3027]

3:00 where you discuss the areas where you are and are not delivering fuel to is incorrect. The shades of the colours relates to the level of the building not the supply of materials. If supply is good the building will level up and then it's supply will be poor and you will need to continue supply at a higher rate. You will have seen building demolished and replaced and when they are the total requirement for the goods increases and the number representing supply is decreased. This is a quote from the TF2 Wiki. "All houses are painted according to their use and level. residential houses are highlighted in green color, commercial houses are blue and industrial compounds are yellow. The higher the level of the house, the more saturated is the color."