Why Did Megatron Become Weaker After TF-1

[@vaper8824]

I love how the writers also forgot Megatron was a gladiator and seasoned Veteran when it came to combat.

[@rudyb9543]

thats why i love that new transformers netflix series: war for cybertron ; they concentrate on how megatron had to fight his way up from the pits

[@hourlylost]

EXACTLY!

[@ayana6845]

FOR CYBERTRON BROTHERS AND SISTERS! DESTROY THE AUTOBOTS

[@renzluigiaquino7608]

@@ayana6845 I think it's safe to say that megatron is basically the general zod of transformers.

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

The writers and Michael Bay aren’t the same, Bay is the director, not the writer, and I think Bay’s the producer too, but I could be wrong.

[@MrInzombia]

I miss when megatron actually had the strength that made autobots shiver in fear. The megatron that ripped jazz in half like an insect

[@no-mads21st23]

To me it's like ripping a good doggo apart

[@Rexon49]

Jazz : You wanna piece with me ...you want a piece Megatron: No I want two

[@anubismaat2813]

That was so stupid. No transformer is eating bullets to the face like that at point blank range.

[@HyperionTrading]

The way the autobots said retreat when he arrived.

[@randomdude5031]

Yo that was dark

[@oreo_smith955]

"Why do you have a hole in your chest"? Megatron: Upgrades people,upgrades.

[@alumlovescake]

I can't tell if its a cindeidence or its the joke where Herb voice actor is the KSI guy

[@chriscarpenter3370]

that's how we make the dough

[@dareka9425]

Megatron should've upgraded his fingers with the energon sword chomping stuff. Not only he could shatter swords but also anything he can get his hands on.

[@warriorsoftheuniverse5932]

Reference from the movie Robots

[@herobrine8626]

@@warriorsoftheuniverse5932 yeah i know

[@luppiantenor8269]

Tf1: MEGATRON Tf2: Meg Tf3: Meh TF4: Galvatron TF5: Megatron

[@yuuyjaaj6721]

Bumblebee movie: nowhere to be seen

[@TheUncleSpiderX]

Galvatron deadass left the final battle Which was pathetic

[@marioandsonicmayham1461]

TF5 Megsis the strongest one

[@samrat773]

@@marioandsonicmayham1461watch the series first

[@warryo82]

@@marioandsonicmayham1461 megatron tf-1 is stronger because the strong rail gun and megatron was close to kill optimus untill... sam come to kill megatron

[@LegendaryDarkKnight602]

Michael Bay: Yeah, what he said.

[@geonite2072]

Hahahaha! That would so be him!

[@benDover-qo7mw]

Lol

[@shrekswamp9969]

1000 like poggers

[@thestarbran]

more like “michael bay: that’s the yellow one right?”

[@Arkhamman2023]

E

[@creepykiller2876]

Considering that Autobots were originally designed, by Primus, to be primarily scholars, medical workers, and generally fill more "aristocrat" type roles, while the bots that would become Decepticons were primarily manual labor, slaves, and gladiators, it makes sense that Megatron and the Decepticons would initially wipe the floor with The Primes and the Autobots.

[@siouxperion9786]

Is that in the comics? I never read those 😔

[@lust174]

@@siouxperion9786 it’s the main concept from transformers and the reason why they are at war. The deceptions want to be able to be more than just labor workers they are right in their fight yet prime has to exist to be a prime which is following the cause of the prime before him

[@keepkauaiit3551]

@@siouxperion9786 yes. Int he original stories of transformers. Prime wasn’t always a prime and was known as Orion Pax a librarian and scholar of cybertron.

[@oggdx]

Athens vs Sparta

[@RandomPerson-hd6wr]

@@oggdx basically

[@rgt6969]

When an Autobot dies, Optimus: We have lost a true warrior When a Decepticon dies, *Megatron doesn't even care*

[@yourtankhadastrokeandfckin7523]

*Ive got morons on my team*

[@Milo_Estobar]

well... thats a villain for you...

[@Koky-cu3pn]

Well he felt sad when he saw starscream’s head in tlk

[@BlooMonkiMan]

@@Koky-cu3pn Did he though?

[@RC_RZ]

He felt sad for his Starscream in TLK

[@GojiBoiEarth1964]

TF1 Megatron: *was a threat; beats the crap out of Optimus; and ripped Jazz in half* Post-TF1 Megatron: *was a side antagonist; gets destroyed by Optimus; had to double team him and still got demolished*

[@godzillagurus576]

Also TF1 Megatron: *starts running like a baby when humans start shooting at him*

[@Eradicator_MK666]

​@@godzillagurus576he run away it is because he wanted the allspark, and its because of his last word:"MINE ALLSPARK"

[@dynamic6645]

​@@godzillagurus576He took those hits like a boss, Optimus went down easily.

[@cgarciahfcu]

I appreciate your effort trying to make sense of the Bayformers. If only Michael Bay would've put that much effort.

[@reillyontheradio]

Awesome vid dude love it

[@harveyjennings3729]

I know, right. Bay doesn't seem to understand the concept of continuity as it pertains to strength levels at all

[@Theorymus]

Thanks

[@FabiTheSnake]

@@harveyjennings3729 Bay movies: the goal is to make them cool, not to make them have too much continuety.

[@rogersingh261]

Hope your dumbass knows that Bay doesn’t write these movies

[@MrPkamara]

“His whole right arm is bigger than his left” hmmm I wonder why 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@Theorymus]

😉

[@nish912]

Wait megatron was build with that cannon right how can he have a another little arm when he has a big cannon Optimus:I wished I looked back on those years and megatron gave me a hug Megatron:I TRIED IDIOT

[@proridzuan5462]

Dark mind

[@poopfart69]

Megatron is meat beating

[@takudach]

Wait a second-

[@Gio_my_hero]

Megatron: whips everyone's ass around like ragdolls Some highschool senior with a magic box: *im about to ends this man's whole career*

[@nish912]

Lol

[@HarmonyOC]

It's a cube

[@nish912]

@@HarmonyOC ok

[@sounddoom5836]

@@HarmonyOC cube is just a fancy word for box

[@HarmonyOC]

@@sounddoom5836 box you can open and put staff in it, you can't put anything in the cube

[@xg835]

I like also how it’s kinda poetic that galvatron had a hole in his chest that can destroy things( like optimus’ blades). It’s sort of like his saying “try putting something in my chest now” in reference to tf1

[@godzillagurus576]

Galvatron to sam: try put the cube in my chest now, boi

[@nicmagtaan1132]

Bayverse Optimus likes to do headshots

[@idksomeguy3294]

@@nicmagtaan1132 you can’t really make your head a massive hole tho

[@madsteve6663]

Sauron be like: hmb​@@idksomeguy3294

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@idksomeguy3294 Twitter will disagree

[@human287]

Can we admit, hate it or love it, transformers was apart of all our childhoods, and someday you will miss those Michael bay explosions

[@RPbirdzz]

I barely watched them so...

[@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472]

You must be very young and were not around for the original Trsnsformers Cartoons if the Michael Bay version of transformers was part of your childhood.

[@RPbirdzz]

@@reconstructionwouldhavesav9472 damn that gatekeeping is better than the royal guards could ever do

[@phantom_thief_jk9859]

@@RPbirdzz fuck off normie everyone knows you can't enjoy the prestigious bayformers franchise without being a 7 year old I'm 2007. Jk that guy is an idiot for gatekeeping.

[@quarantinegamer8269]

@@phantom_thief_jk9859 watching Transformers makes me nostalgic of the simpler times

[@quebec__12]

Megatron needs to learn from Lockdown. less talking, more fighting.

[@shubhammhashelkar6717]

lol, Megatron wants to have a chat with you

[@W0LV1E45]

Its impossible for Megatron to avoid monologuing while fighting. Even TF Prime Megatron did that. Also G1 during their final fight.

[@AdaptiveHerd6]

Mostly starscream need to learn that alot

[@sonyailona7650]

more like less yappin more blasting

[@stingraytt330]

Well Lockdown isn't a Decepticon.

[@treyrex5987]

Honestly, I missed Megatron being like he was in TF 1. Such a badass and doesn't take any crap from nobody.

[@jaredfetzer7041]

Me too because it was Megatron (excuse the pun) in his prime.

[@treyrex5987]

@@jaredfetzer7041 Yeah. I'm fine about the pun, made me chuckle a bit.

[@Theorymus]

I had a joke like this in the script before i took it "... Megatron had to fight optimus in his prime..."

[@treyrex5987]

@@Theorymus My reaction probably would have been like this. "😑 to 😆"

[@ethibodeaux7]

Star scream was a savage too I loved the way he flew in on iornhide and ratchet

[@AdamNoizer]

I really enjoyed the movies and appreciate you trying to make sense of Michael Bay’s unexplained character design choices. I’d also add that it’s interesting how in the first movie, Megatron refuses to opt for a human vehicle, due to his pride and sticks with his cybertronian jet. Whereas by the third film, he has been reduced to a shell of his former self, ruling the deceptions from the shadows as a veiled truck in the desert.

[@Theorymus]

Happy to help

[@evanroberts2771]

@@Theorymus The correct answer is... the plot required it.

[@Cyberneticfrk]

A thing you forgot, in Revenge of the Fallen Megatron had extra weight in his legs as they were bigger and bulkier due to becoming a triple changer and having a tank alt mode. This slowed him down a lot more and it's noticeable when he kicks Optimus. The kick is rather slow and Optimus easily grabs his leg and stops the kick.

[@reginaevans6973]

Yeah and he was THICK

[@fiercelunarhavoc4627]

He doesn't stop the kick though?

[@Synchronizado]

@@fiercelunarhavoc4627 and it looked like one would think of as a "critical hit"

[@hesiod_delta9209]

The new parts went right to his thighs.

[@william3100]

But it made him much more powerful! Megatron could've learned quickly and remember how to fight Optimus Prime. He could've used his weight and tank mode much more.

[@RandomBlackGamer]

This was an awesome explanation. I always wondered if it was the disproportion physique that made Megatron a little slower compared to his first form. As you said it makes more sense as to why he was more formidable once he got his TF4 & 5 forms.

[@Theorymus]

Well I'm happy you enjoyed the video, stay safe out there RBG 👍

[@RandomBlackGamer]

@@Theorymus Same to you man. Stay safe and keep up the good work.

[@Tainted_Human]

Seeing some of my favourite KZbinrs being just wholesome fuels me

[@BJ-0007]

i like your content

[@Acidstormstudios]

As always

[@i_am_forever_alone]

"Who would you be without me, Prime ?"-Megatron

[@Theorymus]

"Time to find out" -Optimus Prime

[@ProbablyMartin]

“Welp better leave”- Astrotrain

[@optimusprime5199]

I already told him in 2011.

[@keanusamuels1782]

@@Theorymus (puts cool mask on)

[@V1sr.vsp7330]

Sentinal watching Prime kill megatron "WTF"

[@riptideanomy1024]

We need to give megatron a lot of credit since he was capable of going back to fighting Optimus after being dead for awhile. Not everyone gets a second chance, and to risk getting killed again with a new body that he hadn’t gotten used to yet is impressive.

[@quietone2674]

I'd always thought that the reason he got weaker in 2 and 3 was tied to his resurrection. His body was dropped into the Marianas Trench after the first movie, exposed to the highest pressures on earth as well as salt water and possibly thermal vents. Salt water is *not* good for metal. Combine that with the fact that another Decepticon had to be killed for spare parts, and Megatron is basically a Frankenstein's monster made of corpses. Jetfire in 2 established that age did affect the Transformers, causing them to rust and slowly fall apart. Megatron in Fallen and Dark of the Moon was basically rotting during those movies. It wasn't just weight distribution. His structural integrity was compromised because he was a walking corpse. Was my interpretation anyway.

[@ApertureDragon]

I can see that being true

[@iimduu9287]

Your idea is spot on I felt the same way

[@greasypriest5137]

I don't think Bay had the brain capacity for this😂

[@asu2913]

Oh my god!! Dude you make a huge sense👍

[@BlooMonkiMan]

Even so, they age probably a million times slower than humans

[@ProbablyHungryy]

I feel like that a name like “Trans theories” is not what you think it means

[@Theorymus]

Its become too popular to change

[@spin.chicken]

@@Theorymus you have 60k subscribers, it is by no means "too popular" to change. Get off your high horse. A Rocket League KZbinr changed his name from JHZER to JZR, while the change is subtle it is still a change and he has approximately ten times the subscribers as you. You can easily adopt the same type of change. "Transformers Theories", "Transitive Theories", "TT" or some other thing of a correlating name/meaning. Changing your name doesn't change your channel in the slightest. People will figure out who you are once they hear your voice, assuming they're a regular viewer. If they're brand new to the channel then changing your name won't matter as they are not accustom to any name yet. Just say "I'm too lazy to bother" as that is way more applicable than "it's too popular" because that excuse is bullshit.

[@rayyisbaee9132]

@@spin.chicken his name is fine if he dont want to he dont have to

[@nakiah7987]

Spin It Like A Chicken I think he’s joking.

[@ProbablyHungryy]

Spin It Like A Chicken woah chill lol

[@archfxt3619]

Yep , called it Megatron is like that one guy who is almost finished in uno , but then everybody after him pulls a 4+ chain and he takes the hit

[@JetstreamSam343]

Are you calling me Megatron? Don't even know if I'm offended of not...

[@archfxt3619]

@@JetstreamSam343 lol

[@dancho0012]

UNO!

[@africancouscous]

UNO!!!

[@archfxt3619]

@@africancouscous dont tempt me

[@TimaeusEXE]

Prime also was holding back because he wasn't sure he could bring himself to kill Megatron. He says "You left me no choice brother" he and Megs were very close so it's pretty in character for him to hold back.

[@richiebob5477]

I highly disagree if megatron got a hold of the Allspark the human race would be wiped out, the Autobots would’ve lost and the Decepticons would rule the universe, Optimus just got dominated as 07 megatron was too op, he was toying with Optimus and was beating him, when Optimus landed hits megatron just used prime’s own momentum against him, Megatron in tf1 is the best, he’s animalistic brutal and he is strategic, they also flew through a full building killing everybody inside.

[@TimaeusEXE]

@@richiebob5477 again Prime was clearly holding back the entire fight. He barely threw any punches. His voice of regret at the end shows that he didn't want Megatron to die. He was willing to die himself before Megatron to save everyone.

[@richiebob5477]

@@TimaeusEXE He wasn’t, he was nowhere near megatrons power, prime only won in the other movies is megatron was too weakened

[@TimaeusEXE]

@@richiebob5477 he wasn't weakened in ROTF. He wasn't Weakened in TLK. Prime wasn't weak, **again** he was holding back the entire fight on the first movie. He was literally suplexing megs in all the other movies because he wasn't holding back then.

[@richiebob5477]

@@TimaeusEXE 🤣 bro us delusional

[@sluch2456]

"We were brothers once!" "Once" This hurt cuz Megatron really just wanted to go home

[@SubarmanSolos]

Which movie was it? I wanna rewatch every transformers movie 😁

[@sluch2456]

@@SubarmanSolos The last knight, watch it last

[@SubarmanSolos]

@@sluch2456 thanks man

[@itsemzee131]

he wouldve survived the fall found unicron and unicron would heal him as long as he goes for quintessa with his dark energon infused armor

[@yuuyjaaj6721]

The last kday is still better than the last knight

[@wat1614]

My theory is that megatron is copying Optimus In the third movie he chose a truck mode like Optimus In the fourth movie he revived like Optimus Im the fifth movie he got a knight body like Optimus

[@AquawindxOP]

So meg is being an OP poser😂😂

[@elijahblechman8633]

I think it's to show how blurred the lines are

[@nish912]

The thing I only loved about megatron in the tlk is he had a mask like optimus

[@ThiccFurryBoi34]

TheHoodedHood he also copied his blade weapon

[@cureofcoronavirus6460]

Well megatron is a copycat

[@alexandratavares6612]

TF1 was the only movie where Megatron was actually intimidating

[@kylephillip6753]

I remeber being low key scarced of him as a kid

[@2Leejah3]

kyle phillip When I was little and young, Megatron was my favorite. When he got “killed” in the first one, I was crying to my dad that he got “killed.” But he just kept saying that Megatron will be back.

[@omegagoat4818]

The only other villain that was kind of intimidating was Sentinal and it was only because he killed Ironhide

[@just_2swift]

I SMELLL YOUUU!!!...... BOOOYYYYYYY!!!

[@alexandratavares6612]

@@just_2swift AAAGGGGRRRRRRRRRRR

[@hesiod_delta9209]

The Mission city battle was when Optimus realized he needed to arm and train himself for fighting. That's why he took a sudden leap forward in combat effectiveness. This caught Megatron off guard while he was already in a vulnerable state.

[@dc-vengance5630]

I think that In tf3, Megatron was still able to dish out insane amounts of damage which you can see when he wrecks sentinel, his issue was that he couldn’t take much damage

[@rhysbuxton4437]

So he is a glass cannon

[@blyat8832]

@@rhysbuxton4437 no, he was weakened after tf2 and was having repairs done on him at the same time throughout the films he couldn't really do anything unless it really mattered

[@rhysbuxton4437]

@@blyat8832 so the most situational glass cannon because in the right circumstances he can do lots of damage but is really easy to take down and when he needed to fight it could have been his last one so he gives it his all

[@Kaotic_real]

@@rhysbuxton4437 I was literally about to say that lol

[@TheJonbonesjones]

He wrecks sentinel cause he cheap shorted him multiple times in the back lol. Sentinel would have wrecked him in a fair fight

[@dknon853]

The dudes who made the movie probably didn’t even think of this

[@loukipp5469]

Michael Gay

[@Jamarvious_]

Lou Kipp bruh😂😂

[@pilkers2]

It can’t be a coincidence how this makes so much sense

[@therumtummugger420]

Lou Kipp fuNnEY. gIve LIkE

[@frozyre7854]

It's because they were thinking: $$$$ It shows because they've made 5 damn films of inconsistencies.

[@melaniebryson2796]

"He decides to open up his arms for a hug" Lmao😂😂😂😂😂

[@suleyman9199]

"And then he get S L A P P."

[@VøyzBlack]

@@suleyman9199 nah boi he got smack and brought back a big mac from macdonals thats what the ogs say

[@suleyman9199]

@@VøyzBlack lol

[@Man_Aslume]

"Can we hug it out?"

[@jakehudson7118]

The best Megatron design has to be TF5, he looks so badass and puts the fear back in him

[@she-venom9842]

He still cared for his home as always does do anything to save his home even in bad way

[@mohamedbaradji7504]

I feel like people forgot that when Megatron was revived they used other parts to replace his damaged ones and in TF3 he was weak due to being mortally wounded in TF2. Optimus Prime the entire time got stronger and newer weapons. It’s not Michael Bay and plot holes, it’s us not paying attention.

[@BlessedOrri]

Facts.

[@frosta1184]

True as heck

[@amoghsawant3801]

Tf5

[@thesupernaturals1070]

Michael Bay: "uuuuum yeeeeaah...Yep that was the reason. You folks just need to pay more attention"

[@thesnipersmith3436]

Thank you, glad to see some fans use more common sense rather than jumping to conclusions without thinking much

[@michelle057]

Megatron just doesn’t wanna kill his dear baby optimus

[@Truly.H1ni]

If megatron 1v1s optimus in megatrons 2007 form optimus would get his ass whooped up

[@user-zy5bt3bh9y]

@@basedpota optimus was annoying him lol

[@calvinshiaalvarez6514]

Lol

[@Soundwavedits2012]

Megs just wants his home

[@thepie193]

I knew my ship was canon

[@raphaeldagamer]

As an accompanying note on Galvatron's design, KSI advertised Stinger as more advanced than Bumblebee, but no such advertising was shown for Galvatron, but his alt-mode, a Freightliner Argosy, is the direct successor to the Freightliner FLA series of Cab Over Engine trucks, which just so happens to be the series of trucks that Optimus Prime's alt-mode in G1 came from.

[@diaz5077]

the title should be optimus throws uno reverse card on megatron

[@dimitri_tsm]

"Optimus caught him off guard monologuing" Ah, Classic Megatron

[@CtefoxZeus]

Bay-verse were awesome upto TF3. After that, it became like a trash series. The bots designs, the story line, the time line, all over the places.

[@dedi6787]

Yes *The good old golden original trilogy*

[@julietbengulo3086]

Yeah the more humanoid design kinda bothers me

[@jamesonschaltzdm4476]

I feel you M8 At the 1st to 3rd film Optimus said that the Cube was the one who created them But when it comes to the 4th and 5th everything changed Optimis now said that "Quinntessa" was their creator and that the Medieval People 1st encointered the Transformers If you compare it to the 1st film Optimus said that Sam Witwicky's grandfather was the One who 1st encountered a transformer (Megatron). He clearly said "It was an accident that Entertwined our Fates" The 5h movie was clearly rushed they didn't expalin everything on why Galvatron turned back into Megatron.

[@bluepineapple4396]

Though admittedly I do like megatrons tf5 design

[@snusemcgoose1001]

One thing I don’t see anybody mention is when they kill decepticons in the later movies, like robot “blood” shoots out which I think is just stupid, it was way cooler in TF2 when sideswipe killed barricade and sliced through him and a bunch of nuts and bolts came out

[@ArtistNotFound123]

A lot of great points made, I especially like the idea that Megatron was controlling Galvatrons design despite the scientists efforts to make it look like Optimus, it makes sense why because it more resembles his original form. Nice explanation.

[@eggoryheffley7569]

Who would win An OP gigantic robot that lead to his planet’s downfall, tossed his arch-nemesis around like a ragdoll, tore an Autobot in half and literally destroyed everything in his way Or An ordinary teenager and the magic Rubik’s Cube the gigantic robot was looking for

[@eggoryheffley7569]

Esteban Herrera Jr. hahaha. You knew it

[@TheGreatMeme]

*never underestimate a Rubik's cube.*

[@eggoryheffley7569]

TheGreatMeme Gaming hehe

[@justinhansen9355]

I’m dying

[@chief5604]

I’ll say Michael Bay with no explanations kust letting you die instantly

[@buffor-664]

When Optimus kills grindor, he says "No prime please no"

[@buffor-664]

I lied he says "*halo elite gargles*"

[@giannis_toupolemou]

@Forest Dump no he does say "no prime" while optimus was climbing his tall body. Followed by, "please" just before optimus planted both hooks on his face. And finally, "Noooo!" While getting his face torn in half.

[@lombe-andrewmusonda17]

@@giannis_toupolemou true I saw that scene yesterday and I was mind blown

[@Hayden_tdd]

Even more violent then me

[@Hayden_tdd]

Who dares

[@regvidaglazauskiene502]

MEGATRON in TF-1 was a SAVAGE.

[@Mythowars]

I wish he would’ve eaten jazz’s spark after ripping him in two

[@parkertitle1923]

TF-3 i need to stop destroying the scalpel units.

[@reginaevans6973]

TF-4 I need a army

[@reginaevans6973]

TF-5 I need Cybertron

[@LegendzPlushStudios]

I really like how in details, you notice in TF2 final battle Megatron slowly walking at Optimus and getting his own gun turned against him not doing anything to stop it, because he’s practically disabled in a body not fully his

[@landon6702]

Let’s be honest plot armor was to strong for even megs to handle

[@stevenneese2823]

Optimus has never been as big or strong as megatron. Megatron has always overpowered Optimus. However, Optimus was faster, more agile, and smarter than megatron. His battle strategy was much better than megatron's, as like you said, he was a brawler. I think that what we see as the series goes on is Optimus consistantly adjusting his battle strategy, and using his speed to outclass megatron. At no point through any of the films did Optimus ever over power megatron except when combined with jetfire. He only out classes/outsmarts him, after taking many hard overpowering blows. Optimus was a scientist and a prime after all. However, his body degradation sure looks like it plays a role after watching your video.

[@Myogafarhan]

In my opinion Megatron is not weak but optimus who starts to get used to the earth and optimus always loses when fighting in the city because he wants to save humans, if in TF 2 why doesn't he hold back even though there is Sam, because he is cornered then that is the last choice to protect Sam and he is also really angry and if when fighting Galvatron, Optimus is protecting Tessa and Optimus doesn't need to give all his abilities. So the megatron is not becoming weak but optimus is evolve faster. Sorry bad english

[@benbob9759]

Bro what are u talking about he literally killed megatron in tf3. And wouldve killed him in tf2 if he didnt have help

[@Myogafarhan]

@@benbob9759 I have already said that the optimus is getting stronger, not the megatron that is getting weaker

[@envious40]

Optimus is stronger and more faced in combat although megatron can withstand more hits and blasts and has more armor. It might seem that megatron is stronger because he always beats prime but that is false prime has to protect the humans and fight off the decipticons it’s like he’s protecting and fighting at the same time. Prime would risk his life to save the humans

[@benbob9759]

@@Myogafarhan i didnt reply to you

[@sideswipe696]

Great video Trans and well said! After Megatron got revived he had no experience with his new body and because of that he wasn't really good at combat.He wasn't anywhere near his TF1 performance,and the weight distribution issue made him even more vulnerable in hand to hand attacks,if megatron hadn't had his backup then he would get destroyed by Prime.

[@lymie9155]

Also, don't forget that his original body from TF1 was built with some of the strongest materials and had a very sturdy exoskeleton to withstand attacks at close range since he presumably a brawler. In TF2 his minions just grabbed whatever scraps and shit they could find and cobbled him together.

[@Deadput]

For his Revenge of the Fallen/Dark of the Moon form, besides what you said about lack of experience in that body my theory is that his actual body was weakened since as we know his second body was made using what was left of his first form in combination with other Decepticon parts. His original body was left in the bottom of the ocean for a couple of years which might of been rusting/wearing down the body, in combination the donated parts that were used to rebuilt him came from a Constructicon (Little One/Scrapmetal) who was likely on the weaker end with how easily/fast the other Constructicons turned on him as well as potentially the other dead 2007 cons that were also at the bottom of the ocean. I think him taking up the shotgun in DOTM was a combination of what you said and due to the fact that he lost his ROTF fusion cannon due to the arm being chopped off, so it was likely both easier and more convenient to build a handheld fire arm over another integrated weapon as well as being better suited for Megatron's preferred fighting style. In general Megatron's body in ROTF/DOTM left him somewhat crippled and the Decepticons were too starved of resources and equipment to properly rebuild him to full capacity, so him being able to get a fresh new body from KSI was a dream opportunity for him.

[@thecommentguy9380]

Megatron not even an hour after waking up with a KSI body and he already started racking up body count. You can tell just how excited he was getting a well functioning body

[@nachonaitor5535]

​@@thecommentguy9380even was trying to speedrun the conquer Planet thing

[@thecommentguy9380]

@@nachonaitor5535 Prime was lucky Megatron dipped, because imagine having to fight him in a near indestructable body

[@amirulmustaqim2883]

The weakest Megatron is on DOTM movie, doesn't feel his a super villian

[@racetoria3069]

coming into dotm megatron got hes ass kick twice already. so him being all clunky,weak and rusty makes sense ^^ TLK is horrendous , bay complete ignored megatron's upgraded body in AOE... i think they just change it 4 no reason whatsoever so that they could sell new megatron designed toys... $$$

[@Boldipie]

He’s barely in the goddamn movie, I hate how he’s shoved to the side in the last 4 movies. He was genuinely terrifying in the 07 film, he just made you constantly think the Autobots were going to lose. In the later movies he is swapped out for mindless, weak, and sh*tty Megatron. And then they bring in these other mindless main villains (only one I like is Lockdown since he has a similar scare factor to that of TF1 Megatron). They ruined Megatron just after 1 movie, what a shame.

[@mooingsage8138]

Weakest? He defeated Sentinel before Optimus killed him and Sentinel

[@racetoria3069]

@@mooingsage8138 he backstabbed sentinel, it wasnt a straight fight,so megatron won.. we wont know who would win in a face to face fight.. since he is portrayed as constantly being fixed in dotm,so assuming he s weak is a good point i guess.

[@juanjoyaborja.3054]

@@racetoria3069 Optimus couldn't dent Sentinel with his energon blades, meanwhile Megatron tore Sentinel apart with just his kicks and scratches, it was clearly very inconsistent with how weak they made Megatron out to be

[@KANIKAINDAHUNCHO]

I personally think that Prime was indeed holding back in the first film, it was pretty obvious because he wanted to sacrifice himself to end the war, that was his goal for that battle. In ROTF you could see how he fought as he was pissed that Megatron was revived so he was really in a fighting mode.

[@enzoreysameon9624]

its because due to megatrons new body giving him a disadvantage and for optimus new training

[@KANIKAINDAHUNCHO]

@@enzoreysameon9624 true💯

[@dariusbrock2713]

He couldve easily thought of shoving the cube into Megatron's chest himself, but I'm sure he didn't even want to kill Megatron because he still considered him a friend. He was even a bit sad when Sam killed Megatron and he bends over and says "You left me no choice, brother"

[@Alexgodofwar5662]

@@enzoreysameon9624 what new body it was always the same

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

@@dariusbrock2713 Optimus basically went "Friendship ended with Megatron. Now Sam is my best friend." after TF 2007

[@Emperorparubo]

HE'S BACK, HE'S ALIVE TRANS THEORIES IS HERE!!!!

[@noobasaurusrex105]

We got your theory and we’re here

[@Arkhamman2023]

Trans Theories is always alive and well. Unlike some other bayverse autobots...

[@admiralpotato9895]

He is just taking good time to make original and fact filled transformers videos

[@Gopter2901]

The Return of the King!

[@steven_miles5545]

Hell yeah! Boom time! We got the gang back together!

[@ls89swe]

A good theory could also be that on earth Optimus did some digging in human martial arts and warfare and "downloaded" as much as he could. If there is one thing we humans excels at its to make up ways to deliver alot of hurt

[@dariusbrock2713]

I dont think he needs human martial arts lol. He has a few million years of combat experience and his from a much much older and advanced race than humanity.

[@kaelenkerr3509]

@@dariusbrock2713 The 2007 movie proves otherwise

[@kyzersoze8408]

@@dariusbrock2713 compare his 07 fighting style and ROTF fighting style.

[@jmb47kkamikaze80]

@@dariusbrock2713 no I do think he looked into human material arts .he was a noobe when he came to earth after all he didn't complete his training. Another reason why the theory makes sense is Optimus is the only who fight like a human cracked on cocaine primal style even t1 Megatron didn't show any of this savagery Optimus now possesses. In t5 he was even more of a menace he would have slaughtered all the knight if bumblebee didn't bring him back to his real self.

[@dariusbrock2713]

@@kyzersoze8408 in 07 he was fighting in streets with people. He had to be careful. In open ground, he was kicking ass. Destroyed Bonecrusher in 10 seconds.

[@MaelztromProductions]

You know, you pointing things out like how the megatron fights scene in transformers 5 being an homage to the fight scene in rotf but he learned from his mistakes, is the type of thing that makes me realise that there was a little more thought being put in these movies than we originally believed. So micheal bay should be praising you for lowering the amount of hate we give him.

[@АнуЖин-п8ц]

sometimes i wonder, do we hate him just because he didnt make movie we wanted. all we had was comics and animated series, but live action is very different than both media. of course the movie will be 99% cgi, but for the movie to work human character is needed.

[@adawnicusautocon]

You may have a point, I don't necessarily hate the movie. But I understand why so many people are mad about it

[@MaelztromProductions]

I don't think we hated the movies because they weren't like g1, because by the first bayformers movie there were many variations already. I thunk we just disliked what he did. He didn't put enough money towards the writing so we had a jumbled mess of a franchise, but thanks to trans theories, we can see the story a bit better.

[@adawnicusautocon]

@@MaelztromProductions Yeah, that's actually my reason why hes screwed up transformers, he messed up the plot, but he also added too much humans and i don't know if there was any development

[@Nicho_Cheesy]

Adawnicus E. I enjoyed the movies a lot. I'm simple, I don't care for story or plot, I just want to see badass robots fighting each other and causing explosions. I feel like that's what Michael Bay was trying to do as well. He doesn't necessarily want to appeal to an audience who wants a story, he wants to appeal to an audience that just like badass shit. People like me, so to me the transformers movies are fucking awesome.

[@ProbablyMartin]

2:53 : megaton opens his arms up to optimus for a hug. Megatron;We we’re brothers once. Optimus: once. *slash*

[@exauproductions739]

😂

[@blitzhd_8494]

Wonder if he was trying to slash Prime vertically but had trouble lifting the arm up

[@justaguywithagoodphoto4801]

BlitzHD _ tbh that would make sense that look at that thing on his should that thing looks more like a disadvantage then an advantage

[@blitzhd_8494]

@@justaguywithagoodphoto4801 If he manages to bring it down on Prime it would probably deal massive amounts of damage But it's not worth the weight

[@justaguywithagoodphoto4801]

BlitzHD _ tbh i don’t think he could do it on prime unless he had the element of surprise which would be difficult since most of the time optimus is with the autobots And since he’s a brawler it would be much easier if he could use the sword on optimus instead of the shoulder pad

[@dr_drago]

I also thought the "Optimus was holding back" argument for the first film was sort of valid, but limited. The very fact that he was willing to undergo such a drastic measure to stop Megatron (committing suicide by pushing the Allspark into his own chest), both when planning and in the end of the final battle, shows you how desperate he was. Why would he choose such a drastic measure before simply fighting back harder (and still trying to be as careful as he can with the humans still in the city)?

[@diavora]

Why holding back with the risk of lose the fight and guaranteed the humanity to the damnation?

[@dr_drago]

@@diavora Exactly, that's my point.

[@drfatcat6559]

I think it was when they lost cybertron

[@arctixanarchy8908]

Daniel Hong he didn’t want to take such a monumental risk if it wasn’t on a planet he was a guest on he would have but him and megatron fought together for ages before choosing their sides and stands to reason they would know each others combat techniques and prime also hasn’t been seen to have any training ever while on earth just what he got on cybertron and primes are amongst the most powerful beings on cybertron and their combat is unrivalled but they aren’t fighters at least prime doesn’t like to just resort to that Michal did him dirty in that the best representation of prime I’ve seen is from the transformers tv show transformers prime

[@dr_drago]

@@arctixanarchy8908 I'm sorry, I'm not entirely sure what your overarching point is here. I'm not usually one to be a stickler on sentence structure on the Internet, but your complete lack of punctuation makes it very difficult for me to distinguish between one possible point and another.

[@leaderunith4l324]

Megaton does have some experience with blades considering he was a gladiator in Kaon before the war, but I don’t think he’s ever had to seriously fight with one in millions of years, so he’s probably just extremely rusty with them

[@jjgee6505]

Im going to make my honest opinion I think trans theories is the best Transformer KZbinr ever

[@Theorymus]

Hell ya

[@ProbablyMartin]

Yeah*

[@Gopter2901]

@@Theorymus HEELLLL YYEEAAAHHH:D

[@ProbablyMartin]

Honest*

[@Arkhamman2023]

Trans Theories > Fire Brothers =]

[@yoshidasaki17703]

Quick smart answer: wear and tear. Autobots had more robust body design. Stable and balanced defense and power. Just like when you compare a Toyota with a Dodge. Toyota was reliable, robust. But still kicking. While dodge was strongly fast and powerful. But high maintenance and bad wear and tear Quicker answer: Hasbro want to sell more Autobots and writers can't do a thing about it

[@puffpuffpassmako]

I always thought it was cause after 1, Megatron's body was slowly degrading from then on. In 2, he was dropped into the Marianas trench and rotted away. So he needed pre owned parts, which took getting used to. Megatron lost all his upgrades, his weapons, everything. All the rotting and use of pre owned parts weakened him. And in Dark of the Moon, he's missing half his face. He even has bugs eating away at it, which is a clear reference to the human skin eating condition: gangrene. He had to wear a cloak to hide and protect the open wound, and since he didn't have the allspark he couldn't repair it. So not only does he have rot, barely any original parts, now he has an infection eating away at him. Then in AOE and TLK he was repaired from the ground up. First the transformium enhancement, then Quintessa giving him a more upgraded version of his original body

[@thechunky1ne]

You said a couple of things wrong, he was dropped in the laurentian abyss, not marianas trench. And those “bugs” were scalpel clones trying to fix him, not eat away at his face.

[@strelis6615]

and he just kills those scalpel clones while he’s talking to soundwave in tf3

[@thearnorianruby4681]

Actually, the "bugs" are actually tiny Decepticons doctors that are "REPAIRING" him.

[@RC_RZ]

Well the bugs are fixing him

[@Anonymous-pq1tx]

Wrong

[@joshualing5667]

Technically, Megatron was really powerful in TF 1, because he could shrug of an ion blast from Optimus,and still shoot him. He could even take plenty of hits and still not die. But in rotf, be was weaker because he wasn't used to his new body, the bots that fixed him placed an allspark piece into his cavity,which gives Megatron a new body and a different fusion canon. In dark of the moon, he becomes a truck for a reason,he was tired and weakened,and he had a shotgun instead. In aoe, he was at least stronger than his rotf and dotm counterparts,but we still don't get to see what more he is capable of. In tlk,he had and even shorter screentime,but his abilities are stronger as well compare to rotf and dotm. So conclusion,his power level: TF 1: 120/100 Rotf: 70/100 Dotm: 15/100 AOE: 85/100 Tlk: 92/100 This is my opinion,you don't have to agree with me.

[@preator_vallum6377]

"Trans Theories" Does.. does no one else see the humor here?

[@BlooMonkiMan]

Wrong. It's transformers theories

[@preator_vallum6377]

@@BlooMonkiMan good sir, I believe it is a joke

[@BlooMonkiMan]

@@preator_vallum6377 oh ok

[@pluviosaurus05]

Flim.. Fli- Fli- Flim- FLIM THEORIES

[@Breakaway-ic5gj]

@@pluviosaurus05 But hey, that's just a theory, A FLIM THEORY!

[@TonyJaaFan1587]

Who agrees with me that Hugo weaving was the best voice for the movie version of Megatron

[@exaviermualo3315]

hell yeah

[@BlackLivesMatter23]

Agreed, although i prefer Welker as the voice of Galvatron.

[@hammerhorn5212]

Me to 👍

[@akhonankosi4704]

Still like Welker

[@ameyabhargava7483]

I honestly think the Optimus vs galvatron battle is what we should’ve gotten in the first movie. Optimus and megatron should’ve been equals as that can provide the most suspense in a fight in my opinion

[@OfficialNeonSky]

His Galvatron form felt most comfy to him as it very much fitted his style of combat

[@kaantheanimator]

im sorry but thats NOT galvatron

[@anxiousearth680]

1:04 Is it really safe to say though? Even in the forrest battle, Optimus is not defeated because he was an inferior fighter but because of enemy tactics and numbers. Same goes for Megatron's first death. He didn't do badly but was taken off guard. A war is not a duel between two people. So using Cybertron's fall as an argument to Optimus being weaker does not work.

[@pursuedcomic3]

More than that, it was directly his concern for Sam that caused him to slow for a moment and lower his guard, which is all it took.

[@kingdicehoi4lubu746]

I believe the assumption comes much more from the fact that he is willing to sacrifice himself before the battle even stsrts showing he is not confident in his ability to win alone with Megatron

[@BonnCanlasGaming45]

Micheal Bay: Megatron, I'm gon'na give you a cooler design, but for a price. Megatron: Great, what price? Micheal Bay: Your strength

[@opopp6240]

3:00 you can kinda see Megatron push Starscream out of his way

[@mift4865]

Now that explains y he was aiming so long

[@jacobdubois7940]

Yup and it explains why starscream fell

[@KingPredaking9229]

My favourite design of Megatron is the revenge of the fallen/rotf transformation because it wasn’t like his cybertronion jet form and was a cool looking cybertronion tank that could also fly and I have to admit my least favourite part about him is the way his left arm looks like it’s a scraplets arm and is tiny but out of the designs I like tlk megatrons blaster and how he can retract it and his battle mask is awesome, something we never saw on Megatron before.

[@bruhmaster6995]

If only we had the tf1 megatron strength with his tf5 design

[@donaldbridgewater5786]

Tf1 megatron tf2 fallen tf3 sentinel prime tf4 lockdown tf5 quintessa & nemesis prime tf6 unicron

[@wheeljack2279]

He would be such a badass!

[@nish912]

@VorTex 9 we alretd have a tf6 tf7 is gonna be rise of unicron

[@Arkhamman2023]

What is it with Michal Bay making awesome Transformers designs for the charcters but they don't get to do anything special 🤔

[@nish912]

@VorTex 9oh hell naw

[@trulyflawfull]

I always thought it was because Sam forced the Allspark into Megatrons core which permanently messed with his entire body since, you know. its basically his heart. On top of that he was left in the bottom of the ocean for a pretty long time and revived down there so the water could have messed up his insides or maybe some sea creatures got in there. Those were always my reasons for why he got weaker between 1 and 2.

[@green_was_taken]

I love the bayverse megs because of his brute strength just wish we couldve gotten more backstory. Maybe with the Rebootverse well have a movie megs with charcterization.

[@theStridingRebel]

Well the Bumblebee movie apparently takes place before the events of 07 Transformers, so Megatron is currently frozen in Ice or is in Sector 7, but maybe there is a theory that Megatron's arrival will simply be retconned

[@green_was_taken]

@@theStridingRebel Transfprmers 07-Tlk were one universe bumblebee is a reboot

[@nish912]

Green but that's the reason why megatron wasn't in the movie why would they leave out a fan favorite character out of the bee movie

[@green_was_taken]

@@nish912 beacsue BB was oroginally supposed to be a prequel to the 07 film but then it became a reboot so we might learn where he was during BB.

[@nish912]

Sucks that megatron wasn't in BUT NOT BARRICADE HE GO HIDING AND WHEN HE SEE MEGATRON HE ACTS SOOO STRONG

[@mistertaffy6720]

I love how the designers made Megatrons figure to be a brawler, considering the lore behind Megatron.

[@JeffreyJeffreyFLF]

You're smarter than Michael Bay, you could have made a better Transformers 6 movie - Rise of Unicron.

[@Yu-ub6gp]

Ye, idk if I would be talking if I didn't know the different between your and you're.

[@JeffreyJeffreyFLF]

@@Yu-ub6gp how about now? re-read it as I edited my wrong english word.

[@xxgamingbest5865]

Megatron : bro i double crossed a prime and potentially saved you, we good? Optimus : Nah bro Megatron : come again?

[@ironberzerk515]

U stabbed me in the back in tf2

[@pakkasaurus]

iron berzerk team fortress 2 was a harsh time for optimus

[@TheBreadMan25]

I like how tf2 can both refer to team fortress 2 AND transformers 2. Plus, both have somebody getting stabbed in the back XD

[@jjpelaez1733]

You killed my brothers and killed our planet the fuck you mean we good

[@obi-wanpepproni3576]

in the novel prime spares him as long as he never comes to earth again

[@ronin7176]

Nah, he didn't get weaker, its just prime who got stronger.

[@dedi6787]

He didn't used his blades agains Megs

[@giannis_toupolemou]

Nah only thing that got stronger, Is primers plot armor

[@poseidon2363]

@@giannis_toupolemou Prime has no plot armor.

[@giannis_toupolemou]

@@poseidon2363 Your statement would've made sense if he had stayed dead. Did he? Or was he resurrected with the power of the matrix of leadership? Plot armor.

[@poseidon2363]

@@giannis_toupolemou and Megatron doesn't? Megatron always comes back and never stays dead

[@d0rkyyyXD]

I'm very new in the community and your explaining makes it easier for me to understand all the movies and characters thank you :)

[@Hawkmoon9]

I'm still mad that the Autobots let Optimus fight by himself against 3 decepticons... but the fact that optimus held his own against all 3 of them while also protecting Sam shows how strong he is. IMO he would have beaten all of them if he didn't have to worry about Sam, he was clearly holding back so he could keep sam safe

[@superkamiguru5354]

Megatron opening up for a hug is something I never thought I would hear

[@syna6622]

“Your so weak “ Says the guy who almost lost a 3 v 1

[@syna6622]

@Sharpshooter 02 that makes sense now

[@stefanroche3052]

Subbed. I love the breakdown and effort put into the Bayverse stories and intricacies. I have a feeling there’s an accidental greatness at times with these movies that what you explain fits in but may not have been part of the intent even.

[@holdynmcpletl4903]

my favorite megatron designs ever

[@captaindonut3580]

Which one

[@holdynmcpletl4903]

@@captaindonut3580 all of them

[@captaindonut3580]

@@holdynmcpletl4903 yeah, you have to admit that they all look very good

[@captaindonut3580]

Personally I prefer the one from revenge of the fallen, I just wish that megatron had arms that would actually look "natural" with his body

[@nish912]

I hate the starscream that always betray megatron and I just want him to get shot out of no where bc he is worthless

[@craigscraigwastaken6776]

TF1: Got killed by a human. Would have killed Prime in a 1v1 fight despite being shot at by jets and soldiers. TF2: In the Forest fight Prime was wrecking Megatron, Starscrean and Grindor all by himself until Megatron stabbed him from behind. In their second fight Megatron gets beat again and gets part of his face shot off. TF3: In the final fight Megatron almost kills Sentinel with a suprise attack AND even though he had the advantage against a one armed Optimus, he still lost to him. I'm still mad about that. TF4: Lockdown ruined the highway fight so no clear victor. Personally think Galvatron would've won since there was never a rematch in the film for obvious reasons. TF5: Megatron had no chance with 4 Autobots attacking him at the same time. Edit: You came here for the reply thread, not my summary

[@high_higgy]

Stealthy Ronin in tf1 he probably would have taken a 4 v 1 piece of piss, he was an absolute brute

[@matthieulopez2154]

I agree to you

[@matthieulopez2154]

And he had the advantage to optimus yet he lost

[@RandomPerson-cm2wg]

Stealthy Ronin well to be fair, in tf3 he was suggesting a truce between him Optimus. But, since Micheal Bay is incapable to keep his characters in personality with their source material, Optimus killed him.

[@byehan4259]

@@RandomPerson-cm2wg i think it was one of the drafts for them to have a truce, but of course, like the draft of shockwave having a bigger fight with prime, it got cancelled

[@dedcoronet]

also in revenge of the fallen his legs could be a reason which makes him extra THICC so that could also be a reason

[@Theorymus]

THIC BOI

[@dedcoronet]

@@Theorymus decepticons the sound of my cheeks keeps alerting the autobots

[@ProbablyMartin]

DAMN BOI HE THICCC

[@captaindonut3580]

THAT'S A THICC ASS BOI

[@whatsyourfortune782]

THICC

[@magmaticgames]

Part of me would like to believe that the screenwriters put all of the different chassis modifications and new fighting noves in to support the theories you provide but honestly, they probably just tried to make megatron look meaner and more intimidating for each movie.

[@alec1020]

Also in revenge of the fallen megatrons legs were just way bigger than his previous design which probably slowed him down more

[@scotibot7450]

Just to point out on cybertron it wasn't a 1v1 between optimus and megatron. It was a war. As such it stands to reason that strength alone wouldn't necessarily carry the day. Tactics, numbers, overall strategy etc. people bring up the city battle as an example of optimus restraining himself due to concern for human casualties in a condensed urban area where he cannot accurately determine there's no humans nearby. They may be hiding in the nearby buildings. whereas in the forest battle prime is more free to let loose as the only human in danger nearby is sam. I don't think its fair to say megatron is not skilled in blades as given the transformers are milennia old. I'd suggest he is adjusting to his new form as you say which is only a temporary weakness as he could adapt. After revenge of the fallen its much more feasible megatron is weaker as he is still injured

[@ghosthunterfallout]

megatron is more interested in using the autobots as apposed to killing them, he knows how insane optimus can be

[@Eight-en]

I watched this video so many times, and I forgot about this scene in ROTF, when Sam gets blown up by Megatron, Megatron gets hit by tank rounds and as he shoots his cannon his arm cocks back so many times as he shoots. As you said with Megatrons Gun reducing recoil in the first movie and the weight with Megatrons cannon in ROTF.

[@WeatherxCalipha]

They same can be stated for Optimus though, scanning an Earth-based truck would not only likely nerf his armor but because he reverted to his protoform state prior to scanning the vehicle he had to cope with a new body he wasn't used to.

[@mryellow6918]

I doubt, they can scan anything. I bet it has to be similar to their original form.

[@WeatherxCalipha]

​@@mryellow6918 Megatron in the third movie was able to transform into a truck despite being a Cybertronian Jet and Jet/Tank in the previous movies. Not to mention he was able to go from a truck to a jet as Galvatron back to Megatron. Really, it only seems like coincidence that their vehicles are relative to their appearance, considering the autobots came to Earth as protoforms.

[@etrnlb0y]

@@WeatherxCalipha that truck pretty big

[@ernestoperez5361]

Where was starscream during Megatron Frozen in the Hoover dam.

[@Theorymus]

On mars

[@ernestoperez5361]

@@Theorymus how would he be up there for ever

[@ernestoperez5361]

@@Theorymus that's something I don't understand can you make a video of that too

[@Lamp_2155]

Ernesto perez53 They didn’t know the Cube and Megatron’s locations yet

[@ernestoperez5361]

@Soundwave I know

[@Psiberzerker]

This is one of the few things that stayed fairly true to the Cartoon/commercial for toys. (This, and G.I. Joe were basically infomercials) The Starscream is a more famous example, but as the shows progressed, the antagonists became parodies of themselves. Pretty much comic relief, we used to laugh at how inept the big bad villain (and The Dragon) were. Later shows like the Amazon version of The Tick even parodied this. "The Terror's plans don't make sense."

[@ryandymond2195]

4:47 I like when he says that Optimus broke Megatron's face. He basically described Optimus Prime.

[@jesxswtf]

Why Megatron became weaker : he lost his Medicare and Obama care

[@SOUNDdoesstuff04]

DOTM Megatron is basically a hobo with a shot gun Got that from Twitter

[@Theorymus]

I herd that too

[@xxkillemxx4862]

SOUND ROWLET 😂😂😭

[@nish912]

Ik

[@BatfoxBabe]

Megatron was rebuilt with parts from a 'SMALL' Decepticon when they revived him in the second film at the bottom of the ocean. The Doctor said 'Need parts... kill the small one!'. No doubt the smaller parts are a lot weaker, contributing to Megatron being weaker overall.

[@william3100]

Those parts were optimized to suit Megatron, though. Those parts were also incredibly strong because of the canon and bigger legs.

[@ケイレブ]

I actually liked the fallen and DOTM megaton the best. The alt form is just so good imo, he gets amazing off road, good control and a cannon. Plus I just really love the design. Even if it’s the weakest form I still like it the best.

[@DrypandaexpressFrey]

*Megatron: wanna hug? *Megatron's mind: Ha ha i am going to hold him *Optimus prime: nana man you gay or something? get outa here

[@Xvicity101]

2:52 They're brothers... they hug each other.

[@user-zy5bt3bh9y]

Optimus is kinda rude for slapping him

[@rauf9673]

@@user-zy5bt3bh9y rlly bro?

[@user-zy5bt3bh9y]

@@rauf9673 lol

[@Glimpsee_]

Megatron: *Tries To Hug Optimus* Optimus: Get Away From Me You Stink *SLAPS*

[@friendff1773]

They’re brothers Me once

[@etam8099]

may he wasn't ready for his own body and btw the decepticons killed the "smallest" to revive him so not that much of a metal for him..

[@etam8099]

Also can Megatron revert his arm back to normal or he's forced to carry that cannon? I don't think he can, he can just recharge it or use the implemented sword. Btw during the Forest Battle when Optimus said "waste of metal" i always thought Optimus knew the fact that was used other metal that was "wasted" for him🤣, maybe that was a common practice used since Cybertron, it would also explain why Optimus didn't seem very surprised about his resurrected brother.

[@etam8099]

the hug🤣🤣 of Megatron was an attempt to grab Optimus with his left arm and potentially stab him like he did later, it's not that easy to see but if you slow down the sequence it should appear..or maybe i'm just mistaken.

[@alumlovescake]

But why the smallest one surely killing the biggest one would be better

[@owenobrien1351]

@@alumlovescake those were the components of devestator and also the smallest one is weak the big one would have killed the others