Trapped Above the Clouds with no Fuel Left (With Real Audio)

[@LiftingLimey]

Have to say, the job done by all parties was incredible, the pilots, the controllers, they all handled the situation so calmly and professionally, their brilliant cooperation probably saved a lot of lives and that is no bad word against the pilots' abilities, but those weather conditions were so unpredictable, they would have been extremely challenging. Respect to all of them for doing exactly what they needed to do.

[@ljessecusterl]

That Air India crew was a stellar example of what happens when the captain doesn't let his ego override his decision-making and ability to listen to his crew.

[@mikefoehr235]

Truth ✅️ ✅️✅️👍👍👍

[@kay9549]

ljessecusteri you mentioned ego, any pilot have to put that aside, you have passengers/crew that are relying on you wether captain/first officer, they do switch roles, one flying and or monitoring. Again, well done Air India, atc. Many carriers do hire pilots that were military. That's perhaps is a good call on what carrier you are planning to fly with. Understand that military pilots, depending on what type of craft they flew, training is still key.

[@uri.voltsv]

Air India is a terrible airline. But props to the pilots

[@isabellind1292]

@@uri.voltsv 20 other airlines rank higher than Air India in accident incidents:1) Air France, 2) American Airlines, 3) China Airlines, 4) Korean Air, 5) Pakistan Airlines, 6) United Airlines, etc. ("Easy Jet" is a low-cost airline and has a stellar record).

[@uri.voltsv]

@@isabellind1292 I’m not saying safety record. I flew a total of 30 hours on them on an ultra long haul round trip. Terrible idea. Fire alarm went off on descent and we had terrible food, ife was broken. Dirty seats.

[@justincase9463]

What a good and decent man at control of that aircraft. 110 % effort.

[@MrPLC999]

My father is a senior jumbo captain (retired). He knew hundreds of other pilots in the company and would put his life in practically any one of their hands. You've got to be one calm stable mature individual to take on responsibility for a $300 million aircraft and 300 souls.

[@PrivateVoid1]

When the Air India pilot was listing all the things broken on his airplane I was reminded of Gene Kranz's line in Apollo 13 "What do we have on the spacecraft that's good?"

[@deepthinker999]

Only the pilots !

[@enochianwolf]

yes that was a very good movie NASA put on for us

[@ze2004]

flat dead head like yours@@enochianwolf

[@PrivateVoid1]

@@deepthinker999True!

[@hannamiros]

This is what you call a good lecture-time channel. Informative, with good subtitles and no voiceover, and entertaining

[@RJDA.Dakota]

Totally agreed!

[@sapphirejunction8993]

The Air India pilots and Air Traffic Control were in perfect harmony...well done to both!

[@billolsen4360]

They all were (or sounded) very calm throughout

[@recPokerFish]

sounds like "Kennedy Steve" as ATC

[@Myokuju]

ATC and Flight crew members speak so politely to eachother. Always saying Good morning, Goodbye, Goodnight, etc . Such wonderful manners

[@grandepho1]

It is a brotherhood we share.

[@freespeechadvocate7492]

After a 15 hour non stop flight, those Air India pilot's showed incredible composure and professionalism to take care of the situation.

[@wokewokerman5280]

...and for Air India to let that plane go in that condition is criminal.... but then consider the airline

[@ily.81]

There are usually more pilots for long haul flights who take shifts its not the same 2 pilots who fly the entire 15 hour flight

[@cptainbubbles]

It's very comforting to watch and listen to this. Knowing how well pilots can work with each other and ATC to get extremely dangerous situations under control and the plane back on the ground and safe.

[@auriptide]

Air India dude was one cool customer, I was frazzled just watching. What problems do you have? Basically nothing is working and we have low fuel.

[@manurocker1]

A lot of Air India senior captains (the ones that fly the super long hauls) are ex Indian Air Force, and their methodical approach shows. My grandpa used to fly these on the first routes Air India operated after flying bombers and transports in the Indo-Pak wars.

[@andreagilbert6469]

Same 😬

[@cellman1829]

Bravo air India !!! What great airmanship from all the pilots !! Gave me goosebumps and made me proud. This is what it is about calm and collected 😎👍🏻

[@Blast6926]

Proud of what? Pilot ego? He knew the failure from the start and decided to continue all the way till the point with low fuel, terrible

[@aviationid0116]

​@@Blast6926 The most important thing here is that the pilot managed to land the plane safely. Is it wrong to be proud?

[@Blast6926]

@@aviationid0116 typical indian commenting, so he continued and relied on the 50/50 chance of making it, ya mоron

[@aviationid0116]

@@Blast6926 Hahah, there's something wrong with your little brain.

[@mrsmissy2669]

It was so nice to see positive results under difficult circumstances.

[@kay9549]

Absolutely, its good to hear that everyone crew, atc, we're in sync. Glad that they were able to land at the alternative airport Newark.

[@Dieseldog172]

Awesome crew resource management by all 4 pilots. That’s a big bird that carries a lot of people and a lot of responsibility. In an emergency this is exactly how it should work out. No egos, we’re all equal and we all will overcome, together. Awesome job gentleman !!!

[@marynamurray9385]

Well done to the pilots and Air Traffic Control👏👏

[@md1400cs]

Yes to both crew and ATC working at almost minimums everywhere and as one said "kinda busy". Working both on the ground and in the air on days such as those is really not that pleasant when an emergency flares up. And that 777 lost so much of what was so needed -- YIKES!!!

[@FavMTVs]

Good job, Captain Palia. Very calm and professional.

[@loriw2661]

That was fantastic! I was on the edge of my seat for those pilots. They stayed calm and let their training kick in. The ATC’s did a phenomenal job helping and guiding them in. Well done all the way around.

[@ecclestonsangel]

Squeeeeeeee! I heard Kennedy Steve on JFK Departures for the Air India flight! I recognize those dulcet tones anywhere. The ATCs have to rotate through all positions in the Tower every 90 minutes. This happened just before Steve retired. Thank you SO much, TFC! I never get tired of listening to Kennedy Steve. I hope you're enjoying retirement, Steve, but golly! the Tower just isn't the same without you! At least we get Later Tater for one more year at LAX to make us laugh! We love you, Steve!

[@pomerau]

Yes, me too. I was impressed with K Steve on this more than anything. He knew his stuff, understood exactly what they needed, and was a terrific help. Terrific crew of course. I think he doesn't like flying much, iirc.

[@ecclestonsangel]

@@pomerau Steve? Oh, he's okay with flying. He's said the only problem is, it's too easy for him to slip back into his ATC persona and tell the heavies to get their big butts outta the way, lol! AVL got to interview him this past summer. He is completely retired now, and loving every minute of it! I miss hearing him over the JFK freqs! The Air India crew was amazing, considering everything went wrong. In my excitement over hearing Kennedy Steve, I forgot to give them their props. You AirIndia pilots were rock stars!

[@SwapBlogRU]

The incident happened in 2018, Steve I think retired in 2017?

[@SwapBlogRU]

The controller does really sound like him, though.

[@snailie]

@@SwapBlogRU Yeah, that's what I thought... sounds so much like Kennedy Steve!

[@nenblom]

Both Emirates and Air India crews were amazing! KUDOS!!

[@privatepilot4064]

The Air India crew utilized exceptional Cockpit Resource Management. When they were boxed in they efficiently and professionally displayed what it really is to be on top of the airplane. These guys are the best of the best at what they do. Well done!

[@margeebechyne8642]

So glad both planes were able to land safely. Air India flying blind like that had to be so stressful and yet they handled it so well. Great back up from ATC in both cases. Thank you for another great presentation.

[@alexandradane3672]

Superb airmanship shown by the Captain and flying crew of the Air India flight .

[@Blast6926]

Not

[@larscederberg8564]

The captain on this flight showed no panic at all incredible

[@shdon]

I found Captain Palia's words particularly heartwarming. That crew did a magnificent job.

[@greymark420]

A fine example of CRM and ATC communicating in a very professional way.

[@jackpayne4658]

Excellent flying by those Air India pilots.

[@kay9549]

Absolutely well done !! They had so many things so wrong, ever so quickly. Fuel issue, if not mistaken, weather,fog. They had to to a visual approach to the alternate airport, Newark. Well done Air India crew

[@Blast6926]

Lol absolutely not

[@CptThisGuy]

​@@Blast6926lol absolutely yes

[@lunayoshi]

Mad props to those second pilots. After that one flight (forgot the airline) that ran out of fuel waiting its turn to land over Long Island, New York, those guys did an amazing job. I remember there being a slight controversy about the Vancouver reroute, though, because it was cutting it very close and the closer airport would have been a better choice. Still, no one was hurt, so that's always good. I thought I read on some other Flight Disaster channel they talked about the importance of landing ANYWHERE, not just where you thought was best. As long as it's a learning experience with no deaths, I say, let 'em learn before we learn the hard way.

[@Capecodham]

props?, it isa jet plane.

[@kcindc5539]

You’re referring to the Avianca 707 that never declared an emergency and crashed near JFK due to fuel exhaustion.

[@deepthinker999]

@@kcindc5539 That is correct.

[@piercehawke8021]

Props in this case are compliments

[@isabellind1292]

@@Capecodham Mad Turboprops!

[@CapitalismSuxx]

Air India pilots showed incredible work ethic here. So happy seeing Indians being represented like this! I always say that Indian people are awesome, it's just their govmt is failing them, not being on top of inspections and oversight!

[@carmangeek8882]

It's nice to see some stories where things work out well.

[@StickNclutch]

Shout out to the flight channel for keeping these videos entertaining and the background music fire.

[@waynejohnson1304]

A big congratulations to those Pilots. A job well done.

[@rfnmmandal]

The Air India pilots left up nothing to say, the way they managed the entire thing after 15 hours of flying, tired bodies and minds...how they handled the entire pressure and the way the covered up the problems...just unbelievable.....A huge salaam to them...

[@kwas101]

Calm and professional, these are the kind of pilots you want to fly the plane!

[@joeysawdust]

Great video! Such professional behavior by everyone involved!!

[@Scorpious187]

That controller at JFK Departure was Kennedy Steve, I believe.

[@submissions72]

Absolutely brilliant flying and navigating from the air india crew

[@DrumsByDennis]

Thanks for all your excellent content and this new upload! I love aviation!

[@mikeramirez9821]

That Air India crew did a fantastic job ..👍👍👍

[@duaneadams9010]

The crew of Air India 101 did a great job of landing the 777 with all of those failures and was that the voice of Kennedy Steve

[@Scott1433]

I want those air India pilots in the cockpit when I am a passenger. Professional, calm, factual, focused. Everything you want in a pilot

[@smithy280663]

teamwork, crew resource management perfection.

[@masmainster]

The Air India crew did a great job handling a troubling situation, Emirates crew not so much with their alternate decision with low fuel, got it landed though..

[@Butterproductionsreal]

As a Vancouveriet (yes, that’s what it’s called) we thank you for making a video involving YVR

[@Northern.Town.]

That Air India crew displayed amazing CRM to get that 777 down in Newark. They should be praised for their quick decisions!

[@christina5kids16grands]

It's really a privilege to have the chance to listen to these teams work through major challenges in the sky. Hundreds of lives are on the line, and I am thankful to have pros like this fly me and my family around the world. Thanks to all the pilots out there! (typo at 1:14 "alterNate"😉)

[@californiadreaming9216]

Thank you God for guiding the minds and hands of this Air India flight back safely onto the ground. An extremely hazardous and stressful situation handled smoothly and professionally by both flight crew and ATC. Well done, folks. All of you deserve a steak dinner for your fine work. Can't help but wonder: did ALL of these systems fail shortly after takeoff? If so, flight crew really should have turned back...

[@briankelly1380]

"Air India, what systems have failed?" "Yes"

[@AquariusSoul]

Finally a couple of cases with zero fatalities. Bravo to pilots, copilots and air traffic controllers for working as a team!

[@johnalexander7490]

Hats Off to the four pilots on that plane! Great job guys!!!

[@tomrohan8480]

15 hrs of flying time and in the end face a instrument failure with extreme weather.. It amazes me how robust these engines are.. 15hrs straight @33000 rpm😮

[@sandalwood3130]

Thank you. Such a great video. I learn so much every time I watch one. Kept me on the edge of my seat.

[@later_daze_4080]

Props to the Air India crew and all the controllers helping them out.

[@jennifer7330]

Awesome job Air India!!!

[@susangreene9662]

I couldn't do 15 straight hours in a plane. So glad to watch this channel with no crashes in videos.

[@snowman2834]

Great flying by Microsoft support 😂

[@md1400cs]

Avianca 052 out of BOG for JFK in Sept. 1990 similar reasons for that tragedy (fuel starvation). I was working back then (another carrier), and for some reasons that one stayed with me. I was stationed out of JFK, and my wife was home at the time (in NYC), and it was immediately broadcast on local news channels that ended up hampering rescues because too many civilians created crowds around the wreckage. AND local news videos were live and not edited resulting in shocking footage. Though there were more than 50% who survived that crash. You may have covered this one already?

[@rich_edwards79]

I remember that one, I was a kid at the time. Came down near John McEnroe's house. Basically an illustration of the Swiss cheese model - everything that could go wrong, did. Long time ago now.

[@MillerMeteor74]

On that Air India plane, I wonder why all the failures? That seems improbable. Pretty scary. But the crew were amazing.

[@Joe90-e4r]

Most likely, electrical failure to cause multiple instruments to fail.

[@jean-jacquesalex3891]

Air India a effectué 15 heures de vol avec le TCAS défaillant, incroyable mais bel gestion de l’arrivée finale avec tous ces problèmes 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾

[@Uridien]

I'm addicted to this channel, which kinda sticks as I have a fear of flying. So it's not helping. Even with the safe landing😢

[@rnsteve2265]

Awe, don't be scared. Flying is the safest mode of transportation.

[@Capecodham]

kinda?

[@ladyfootZ]

I WANT THEM PILOTS FOR MY FLIGHTS......... THEY WERE SO COOL UNDER PRESSURE!!!

[@ADPeguero]

Patiently waiting for Flight Channel to do one on the recent accident in Haneda between JAL516 and a Japanese Coast Guard aircraft.

[@vermontbred]

Nice to see an FC movie that has a happy ending. Love this channel.

[@michaelsimpson2490]

Well done by both pilots. I think the question the second controller should have asked, What on your airplane works?

[@sarahalbers5555]

That's exactly what came to mind immediately.

[@tomoakhill8825]

This is an stunning example of professionals preforming at their best. The pilots, the ATCs, all did exactly the correct things. I love the Newark ATCs. That is a seriously busy airport, yet the cleared every flight so that this flight could be saved. The Air India flight was on its last gasp and any hesitation by Newark would have ended in disaster.

[@EmilyHaston]

Excellent piloting skills!

[@MrCyp200la]

Great video.. 👍

[@kcgunesq]

At least the door didn't fall off.

[@edutaimentcartoys]

nice video

[@StalinTheMan0fSteel]

Bravo to the flight crew!

[@dbnmore]

Crazy how people blame the Air India Pilots instead of blaming the Airline. The Airline procedure is what led them to making the decisions in the first place.

[@frankserrano8168]

Always love a happy ending

[@maurice7413]

From one airport named after an assassinated head of state to another.

[@atikulhussain7614]

So what was the reasons for the multiple failures on the Air India flight?

[@AEM795]

I wanted to find that out too but couldn't. Interesting it wasn't mentioned, but I'd wager Air India itself has shoddy maintenance practices. It's a shame such great pilots have to deal with that if that is the case.

[@AeiKei]

Incredible CRM

[@Swellington_]

Good job

[@frasermitchell9183]

All very good but why all these failures ? Isn't the maintenance team doing anything at all ?

[@RudeCustoms]

Excellent job, Crew! Now the airlines have another scenario to throw in training simulators. I am curious as to what led to so many failures of vital systems and how it was allowed to fly. When he was listing to ATC the system that were failing, my jaw just kept dropping.

[@BsUJeTs]

Great video but any idea what caused all the failures that were reported ?

[@kengoodwin5838]

sharp pilots

[@carolgomes8775]

Coincidentally or purposefully he posted this on India's Republic Day ❤🎉 Love from india btw

[@judithfox2435]

Wow! Such cool heads.

[@ggeorge4144]

The training that makes Captains think they are gods must end. Decisions need to be in congruence with the flight crew.

[@grandepho1]

Very few people would understand the gravity of the decision making process going on in this flight deck at this time. Although it was an uneventful landing, my commendation to this flight crew is in order

[@mikemarkowski7609]

Another rehash of previous video?

[@robloxian1014]

This sadly will continue to be the case for whatever reason it is, I wish we could get the old TheFlightChannel but I don’t think that will be the case.

[@mingology7767]

This is a great example of professionalism and CRM…

[@charlottetaylor4471]

Why does the title imply there was shouting? There was zero shouting - everyone was incredibly calm.

[@ewathoughts8476]

The title does not imply shouting at all. You need a dictionary very badly.

[@charlottetaylor4471]

​@@ewathoughts8476That's because they've changed it. The title when I first watched the video was "WE CAN'T LAND!" It was clickbait and they rightly changed it.

[@cptainbubbles]

Have you done anything with Bagram Airforce Base? The stall on takeoff?

[@devendrajoshi4954]

Even if they suffered a RA-failure,lost 3-autopilot guidance-capability,which is required for auto-land,the autopilot had already stabilized the airplane on the glideslope and for argument-sake,even if the winds could have got the airplane off the gildeslope,they could have simply followed the FD.The autopilot uses guidance from FD to conduct an autoland,with 3-A/P’s and all they had to do,was to use that FD-guidance to hand-fly the approach with LOC and GS to the DA and by the time they reached DA,the RWY-APP-LGHTS would be in sight,even if the RWY would gradually appear with loss of height and close-proximity to RWY.Presuming they inadvertently switched-off the FD,the DME would tell them how far they were from the RWY and since the APP was already activated,they simply had to do was:-DME x tan(3 degrees),which would have given them the optimum-AGL,they have to maintain,from the position(current-AGL) they were,whether climb/descend,to get them back on the glideslope.AGL plus RWY ELEV=MSL.The only annunciation they lost,was LAND 3,ROLLOUT and FLARE,with one A/P disabled and could have hand flown the same ILS-APP to the DA,instead of aborting the APP and conducting a GA.They would have known this if they were used to hand-flying the 73ER,but considering what happened,they would be always performing an autoland.Considering loss of RA,the SPD function,wouldn’t be available for the FLARE to IDLE mode,but they could have at least used the SPD-function till the DA,which would have reduced their hand-flying-work-load,but all this is possible to do when you are thinking conciously,controlling the airplane and not the airplane controlling you and the whole-time,while on A/P,the airplane was controlling them.LNAV/VNAV-APP was not required,but they had no other option when landing at KEWR,due to WX.All they had to do was to hand-fly the remaining-segment following FD,during ILS-CAT-3-APP,which later became CAT 2,with a slightly-higher-DA,but since they didn’t,or rather,couldn’t,do that,they took the long-way around,”Those who can’t see straight,see curves everywhere” and burnt more fuel and later became “heroes”.Just saving isn’t important,it’s all about how good you can do it,”best”,as you don’t know,when your best-performance,will be,just sufficient,to save the airplane. Now,there is a new-management,so informal(best)-pilots

[@perrybonney9090]

I quit watching when I recognized that this is a re-run. But it looks as if there was a separate part about Air India, which, from the comments that I’ve read, must be pretty good. So it looks as if I’ll need to go back and watch that part.

[@Virtual_Citizens_Gaming]

Can you do a video on the 1988 Yerevan to Aleppo crash - CCCP-85479 | Tupolev Tu-154B-2 | Aeroflot - My uncle was one of the pilots. I can link to his facebook to incase you have any questions.

[@doriWyo]

But why did they have so many failures?

[@kathyr2792]

Seems like that Air India bus should never have been sent into the air. Do they do any maintenance at all in India?

[@antaripbiswas1569]

Yes, Air India has a massive aircraft maintenance facility within India, supported by both Airbus and Boeing. Apart from this, both Airbus and Boeing operate manufacturing and service facilities in India in partnership with local companies like Tata. There are a few private MRO firms as well. The issue with this particular Air India flight was that during the 2015-2019 period, the airline was facing a lot of financial problems with unpaid debts, etc., and being a government-owned airline the bureaucracy was equally horrible with a lot of Red tape. Hence most of their flights had unserviceable equipment or flying with minimum required systems. The government was desperately looking to sell off the airline to any private organization and in 2022 Tata Group acquired the airline. Tata is a big conglomerate firm in India that manufactures everything from steel to automobiles to assembling iPhones.. and Air India was initially started by the Tata group way back in the 1940s before the then-Indian government passed laws and forcefully took over the airline management.

[@kathyr2792]

@@antaripbiswas1569 Very interesting. Has the safety of the airline improved since Tata took back control? For the sake of everyone and their families I hope so. The flight crew was a marvel of calm efficiency. I hope they received some kind of acknowledgement of their professional skills in bringing the bus down safely.

[@antaripbiswas1569]

@@kathyr2792 Yes in the past 1 year Tata has improved upon its maintenance practices. A lot of planes, especially older Airbus A319 and A320 aircraft were lying mothballed due to lack of parts. Those planes have been fixed and brought back into service. Further, Tata has ordered over 400+ new aircraft from Airbus and Boeing together as they plan to retire the existing fleet. So yes things are improving!

[@quasimondo1933]

This is why passengers clap when the wheels touch down.

[@flyeagle320]

Air India had to face a lots of management and financial issue . But our air India pilot were top notch in their job .

[@johnallen7807]

Bit of a "click bait" headline?

[@gailpeterson3747]

How was Emirates in an emergency low fuel situation simply by diverting to their alternate without previous missed approaches in Seattle? They're supposed to carry extra fuel just for this situation... The flight crew did a great job of maintaining constructive CRM that allowed them to get everyone down safely amidst a barrage of electronic failures.

[@0017Bulldog]

2 successes...I will be able to sleep tonight.

[@ronaryel6445]

First incident: Emirates' crew did a great job; controllers were helpful and responsive. Should the 777 have arrived in the Seattle area with more fuel reserve? (OK, maybe I'm nitpicking). Second incident: Great teamwork and attention to detail by this crew. Intelligent pilots who know how to solve problems and go about it calmly, using what they knew to arrive at solutions. One minor nitpick is that I think they should have explicitly told the tower much earlier about the specific instrument failures they had. Still, superb, commendable work under difficult circumstances. However, the bad news is somebody needed to go back to the maintenance function at Air India and ask why this airplane took off with multiple safety-critical systems failing. I think that work was not commendable.

[@yoxoc7308]

I'm wanna next video idea is, Remake of the Turkish Airlines Flight TK1951.

[@Ryuuu6581]

The JFK atc sounded familiar to me

[@archiethearky3650]

Sounds like Kennedy Steve!