The fact that you make your book a free download tells us everything we need to know. You genuinely care. Thank you for your research. Thank you for your time. Thank you for the FREE resources. As a nursing student and on behalf of all nursing students who will come across this video. THANK YOU! Your video and the way you articulated yourself was so helpful.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you! I’m happy it is helpful!
@melindaauten85367 ай бұрын
As an educator, who teaches teacher candidates, I appreciate the foundational knowledge shared in this video. I challenge my learners to consider how to implement these principles into the classroom, as kids often come to the classroom with trauma, or may experience trauma during the school year. They may be any kind of trauma, big or small, but if we lead with these principles, it helps us to build trustworthy spaces for children to grow and learn in the best ways they can during these times.
@carols.42523 жыл бұрын
I think the power dynamic is huge. Here is how it starts. “Hi, Carol. How are you doing today? I’m Doctor Jones “. Immediately I have less power. I am a first name without a title even though professionally I have a title. I’m also in my 60’s and Dr. Jones is in his 40’s ( I am guessing). I’m sitting on a table in some undignified garb that allows him easier access to my body. My feet dangling over the side like I’m a child in a too-big chair. That’s how it starts. I have no power in that setting.
@christeanaz Жыл бұрын
This is SO well said, thank you
@brianmccloud85447 ай бұрын
That’s “one” way to look at it. When u go to a hospital/*need* some kind of professional treatment u don’t need a “friend”, a peer, or “an equal”. U need someone who knows how to improve the issue u’re experiencing. The word/title “Dr.” not only conveys power but also knowledge n experience (good Lord willing wisdom). Maybe a Dr. w/ great bedside manner will do their best to make u feel as an “equal partner” but the bottom line is u have to believe they know something more than u, ur neighbor Clyde, or even google (as it pertains to ur *specific* situation) n the title Dr. is shorthand for that. As far as being in clothing that makes u “vulnerable”, (for better, but obviously worse) a Dr. has like 15min to get to know u, hear ur issues, examine u, then make a diagnosis, n formulate n explain some sort of treatment. It’s unfortunate they don’t have time to make u feel 110% comfortable (presuming u have done issue being in a medical gown), but in any reasonable situation (no matter the health care system) there just isn’t an extra 5min-ish min for u to not be ready to b examined when the dr. is ready.
@emmawatkins69902 жыл бұрын
The 6 Principles of Trauma-Informed Practice 4:29 Safety 6:15 Trustworthiness and Transparency 8:25 Peer Support 9:36 Collaboration and Mutuality 12:05 Empowerment, Voice, and Choice 14:35 Cultural, Historical, and Gender Issues
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this!
@adamrossi23942 жыл бұрын
Is it very refreshing (and encouraging) to hear a doctor speak like this. As a patient, I have been imploring countless medical professionals for these basic needs - futilely - for years. The current mental health industry is fraught with practicioners' ignorance, cruelty, and abuse. Thank you for posting this video, and trying to enlighten mental health workers (and everyone else too)! It is so nice to have the validation and support! I imagine knowing about the phrase "trauma informed" is going to save me a lot of agony. I will be sharing this video with those who need it...
@troycetabbathabrand12875 ай бұрын
Trauma is so real. And being mindful of others and their trauma. Don't judge a book by its cover. Be kind, be curious. Everyone has their story.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter4 ай бұрын
So true!
@mariamunozpiz6070 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a never ending cycle. I see this problem in public schools such as elementary schools with their “no bully zone” systems yet the abusers are often the very same teachers or other leaders within the school.
@JodDirty10 ай бұрын
Hello My name Is Jose Arreola a Recovering addict and Traumatic eventful survivor now a studying student of Behavioral Mental Health student I would just like to applaud you manner of presenting this topic and agreeing with how you precised that helping others heal is done. I definitely intend to focus more on your videos and knowledge of treatment in this study in hope to see a change in others who have gone thru the same thing as myself Thank you very much and great job 2 thumbs up!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it and wish you well in your studies!
@cindywright64363 жыл бұрын
Stumbled upon this video this morning and it immediately spoke to why i was feeling so disempowered at work. Our agency started with these as our guiding principles but has over time lost their way. You helped me put my finger on the words I needed to voice my concerns. I am an immediate subscriber. I believe being trauma informed can strengthen counseling but I believe it’s even more needed in the workplace as the root source. Thx again!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your message Cindy! I'm sorry to hear about your experience at your agency but I'm happy to hear the video was validating and helpful!
@petersims6253 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for a fantastic video. I am a teacher who is moving into the field of ACE and how it effects students post COVID lockdown. We are increasingly realising that for some students here in Hong Kong after social unrest swiftly followed by years of COVID lockdowns real trauma has been experienced. The COVID lockdowns when seen through the lens of ACE has meant an increasing number of students are experiencing multiple ACEs. The six principles provide a really good pathway to address these issues at a school wide level.
@tex1622 Жыл бұрын
Could you please do a talk on the importance of boundaries in trauma informed care?
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the helpful suggestion, I will add this to my list of future videos ideas! Very timely as I’m teaching a workshop Friday on boundaries!
@tex1622 Жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixTraumaCenter Oh great, thank you, I look forward to watching it!
@RNcoder67 Жыл бұрын
Yes. Thank u for this explanation!!! I am a nurse and I find it very hard to change a person’s behaviors and or habits especially in an older person. That is where I set my limits as a nurse. They are set in their own ways, so I had to learn to just let go. I find this so challenging in trying to help other human beings- no matter their religion, sex, occupation, culture, etc is. It is such a sensitive topic to understand and I guess that is where your expertise is needed!! I admire what u do!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate it!
@soul.searcher3336 ай бұрын
I really love your energy and your empathy which is so clear to feel and see . Thank you for providing this info and conveying it so well too 💙
@PhoenixTraumaCenter6 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@sarahlynch95966 ай бұрын
As a student in psychology in Canada, I thank you for making things simple and sharing the confusion that occurs in trauma practice.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter6 ай бұрын
Happy it was helpful!!
@MarkRichardson-y7h Жыл бұрын
This is so helpful. I work for a charity in England (UK) and this was my first point of investigation into Trauma Informed Practice. It makes so much sense when I think about working with the clients that we are working with and how we can engage with them, and shape the charity with them. Thank you :)
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that this is helpful for you!
@alliesoma6 ай бұрын
This was required watching for my MSW program. Really clear . Appreciated the comment that just because a therapist is stating they provide trauma therapy, it doesnt mean they are doing it in a trauma informed way.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter6 ай бұрын
Happy it was helpful!!
@kellytobin15433 жыл бұрын
Thank you, kind sir. Born with multiple limb anomalies, I am preparing to share my experiences with groups of doctors after living a half century of medical trauma based not so much on amputation, limb reconstruction, etc. but rather in interpersonal dynamics -- objectification, marginalized voice, and other power differentials. Your words help: misattunement vs. collaboration, (patient) preference, agency, etc.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
So happy to be helpful Kelly!! Hope it goes well!
@brianbe14303 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kelly, for sharing your lived experience 🙏🏼🗣👍🏼🌟
@glenlarot9690 Жыл бұрын
Very refreshing and informative in a simple and concise presentation. Thank you and keep safe!!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you Glen!
@dianadeane92332 жыл бұрын
I like the distinction between trauma-focused and trauma-informed therapy or services. It’s useful. Providing trauma- focused therapy in a trauma- informed way sounds optimal but is astonishingly unusual. Thank you for this
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
I agree, thank you!
@DestinyMaatHotepDaniels6 ай бұрын
Dr. Scott this was so informative. I definitely learned a lot and now have a better understanding of what trauma informed care is. Thank you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter6 ай бұрын
Happy it was helpful!!
@gamewrit00582 жыл бұрын
Definitely bookmarking this to share. My physical therapist was awesome when it came to trauma-informed care, but I've had unpleasant experiences with other providers and staff, including my primary care provider, whose opinion on trauma is just move on with life and don't dwell on the past 🤦
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing!!
@TaureanTrish6 ай бұрын
I'm currently studying Trauma Informed Practices as part of a certificate in mental health. This video was recommended to us by our teacher. I liked how you differentiated the difference between trauma focused and trauma informed care. Same same but (very) different yeah? Very informative. Thanks! 😊
@olimpikaoja1848 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video and sharing your book with open access. A rare act of kindness from the academic community.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@michaelpolacek24723 жыл бұрын
I'm listened to this at least 10 times and have several pages of notes. Thank you. Have you ever heard of an actual Trauma-Informed Community? There are a number of models such as the Self-Healing Community with Laura Porter and Dr. Anda, and the work of Dr. Sandra Bloom implementing the principles of Sanctuary within a community in the MARC model. But I haven't read about a community that is specifically calling itself a Trauma-Informed Community.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks michael! Yes, I’m familiar with their work; sandy bloom was one of my professors in my doctorate program. In my recent book there’s a section on Psychodrama’s connection to therapeutic communities as well as sanctuary model. Free access to the book here - link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-981-33-6342-7
@PhinaLuv2 жыл бұрын
This was really helpful. I am studying to become a trauma recovery coach as a survivor myself and this was so helpful in taking the words off the page and reinforcement of the information I'm learning!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
So happy to hear it was helpful seraphina!
@BBWahoo Жыл бұрын
If only all your videos had this much activity, Psychodrama must spread! For MORENO! 😤
@themeditativemaker2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!! This is SO incredibly helpful! ... and wow, big realization that a number of the non-profits I've worked for only skimmed the top of what 'trauma-informed' really looks like! Again, thank you! I am truly grateful for the time you took to make this video! It's very clear and so very helpful in moving forward!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Jojo!
@kellyshermak61673 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to share your knowledge. I have an interview for a position were I provide county resources to those in need and want to apply approaches that will empower clients to feel confident and apart of their personal growth. Your video reminds me what it means to treat others how I would like to be treated.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Kelly! I’m so happy the video is helpful. I hope your interview goes well!!
@Lilmommyoflove2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful, being that i work in the field and we all to often forget that we the EMPLOYEES of an organization also have these needs and when not followed by our Superiors within the organization we get unhealthy and burnt out, story of my life on this one. Thanks for reminding me i madder too. 👌🙏🏽
@sylviad3444 Жыл бұрын
This is a great explanation that is clear, simple and succinct. I am a SW in a legal setting, law firm, and found this to be a great refresher and topic of discussion with our work community.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@haydelissequinones219410 ай бұрын
Thank you for this succinct video, and clarification of the difference between Trauma informed and Trauma focused care
@PhoenixTraumaCenter10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@annadeugenio778010 ай бұрын
This was so clear and helpful, thank you so much! I have downloaded the free resource too :)
@PhoenixTraumaCenter10 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@elizabethpearson86582 жыл бұрын
I thoroughly enjoyed the video. It clarified my understanding of trauma-informed practice linked to the six trauma-informed principles. Listening to Dr Giacomucci was better than reading a book. Very happy to now download the book and all, and specifically chapter 7.
@TheLoneDranger8 ай бұрын
Beautiful. Thank you!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter8 ай бұрын
Thank you too!
@AA-eq2zq8 ай бұрын
Thank you so much. Appreciate feeling seen by your descriptions of trauma's effects too.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter8 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ReginaHobson Жыл бұрын
Great information that you have shared. The information has a necessary understanding which is needed at work and home.
@mahnoor2775 Жыл бұрын
This was so incredibly helpful, thank you. And thank you so much as well for providing your book for free!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
You are welcome, hope it’s helpful!
@yannos2007 Жыл бұрын
Clear and insightful video thank you
@nicoleangelica64073 жыл бұрын
This was so informative and inspiring. Grateful to have these tools and to be moving in this direction. Thank you so much.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
So happy it was help Nicole!
@breannalee4112 Жыл бұрын
Great overview of these guiding principles of TIP.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks!!
@Sunshine_through_Clouds3 жыл бұрын
i really enjoyed this youtube I’m a student in second year social work indigenous diploma. i have come back this video a few times now for courses i am taking
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
I’m so happy it has been helpful!
@LOVELY-dv6oq Жыл бұрын
I am so incredibly happy to have stumbled upon this topic hearing it for the first time at 36 🙏✨ I needed this like oxygen right now!!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
I’m so happy that this is helpful for you!!
@WilheminaOfosuaFrimpong Жыл бұрын
wonderful and nice .I really learnt a lot , THANK YOU DOCTOR
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
You are most welcome 🙏
@akanbioluwatobi26192 жыл бұрын
Thank you so very much for this simplified lesson. It was awesome
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
I’m happy it is helpful!
@andresserna82853 жыл бұрын
Thanks so much for this amazing video. I'm just studying a diploma on mental health and it is my first certificated. For me not being someone who has English as first language it was extremely clear everything that you said. It is helping me a lot to understand a lot of things that I'm learning at my TAFE. Thanks so much and hope to still having more videos from you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Hi andrés, I’m so happy you found the video helpful and clear!
@jozuajoubert39512 жыл бұрын
I'm using your trauma-informed principles to develop a (weed & psychedelic friendly)recovery support group. The peer part of what you are talking about. Thank you for clarifying things for me
@DonnyRaets6 ай бұрын
really well explained, thank you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter6 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@PropheticCoachTheresa Жыл бұрын
Thank you, this was a great set of distinctions to contextualize trauma informed coaching! I'm currently pursuing ontological coaching certification but have been supporting people with trauma based mind body healing for 27 years as a manual therapist and faith based coach. I very much appreciate this video and look forward to studying with your content more!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I’m so happy the video is helpful!
@janeparnell6850 Жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome 😊
@ryannejansevanrensburg96602 жыл бұрын
Really helpful, thank you :) thought you might be interested to know that this video was suggested by our lecturers for the Psych OT (occupational therapy) postgraduate course!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
That’s is great to hear! From which school?!
@freedomriding2558 Жыл бұрын
Arent these just general best practices for therapy modalities and organizations?
@angelmossucco Жыл бұрын
Your information is highly helpful for those of us seeking care.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Happy to be helpful!
@LoveIsTheMovement01 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing this! So helpful. I hope to model trauma informed care for my fellow healthcare workers, and maybe teach it one day.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@blahblahblacksheep6347 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your content. Thank you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@cathysweeney686110 ай бұрын
Very interesting 😊
@PhoenixTraumaCenter10 ай бұрын
Glad you think so!
@burcudayioglu Жыл бұрын
thank you! it's really informative and helpful
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
I’m happy it is helpful!
@EphremBWill2 жыл бұрын
Good presentation!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@anabelasachombelemartins6835 Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@ryanodendaal76438 ай бұрын
@PhoenixTraumaCenter, Thank you for the informative video. I am planning on presenting a workshop on trauma-informed care to a local primary school as an assignment for a module in my master's in educational psychology program. Given that the school doesn't have any on-site counsellors or psychologists. I thought it would be a good idea to do a workshop for the teachers and management explaining what trauma-informed care looked like as an organisation (Similar to your video), as they too have a responsibility to care for and identify any signs that may relate to trauma in the children during the school day and then to make informed decisions as the next steps. Management also has the responsibility to ensure that their staff feel safe and that the structures and decisions being made in the school are transparent. I am planning on doing a needs analysis first, however, I would like to know if there is anything you recommend I keep in mind when addressing teachers working with children and maybe how I should direct my workshop towards them as they are not trained in therapy?
@PhoenixTraumaCenter8 ай бұрын
All of these principles are applicable for education too. I’d encourage you to explore some of SAMHSA’s free resources on trauma informed schools
@michelledoerr13923 жыл бұрын
Simple and wonderful explanation that anyone can use. Thank you!!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!!
@2010skar2 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and worth it to watch. Hope to watch more valuable videos like this in near future. My respectful Thank you to you Doctor 🙏
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your kind comment Sruti!
@dear-pixel-heart2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this informative video!
@talsilverstein87212 жыл бұрын
Very helpful and clear explanation. Thank you!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@margaretlongsworth2873 жыл бұрын
This was a great overview of trauma informed care. Very digestible for front line staff. Thank you.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Margaret- I’m so happy you found it helpful! Stay posted for a few more similar videos coming soon :)
@redfrogrodeo3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the information. Super helpful for me as I am a peer support worker.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks Hannah! I’m happy it was helpful fir you and your work!
@momentshaveyou12 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really clear and helpful
@PhoenixTraumaCenter2 жыл бұрын
Happy it is helpful!
@kaym.2854 Жыл бұрын
Informative video. Really clarified for me. I wish it was longer. Quick question: You mentioned that mandating someone to seek help can re-traumatize them. Can you elaborate more on that?
@darlenbageta46802 жыл бұрын
This was very easy to take in as a student, thanks a lot
@angelmossucco Жыл бұрын
Is there a national list of psychodrama practicioners in private practice and/ or offering online classes or counseling?
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Yes! There’s a list of certified psychodramatists at www.psychodramacertification.org and events listed on the calendar of www.asgpp.org
@angelmossucco Жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixTraumaCenter thank you 🙏🏼
@lucillea-r95682 жыл бұрын
Thank you thank you thank you
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
I’m happy it was helpful!
@lucillea-r9568 Жыл бұрын
Yes it was I was going for an interview and I got the job
@1030bri Жыл бұрын
Do you think that Moreno philosophy can be applied to intergenerational trauma?
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! There are multiple psychodrama trainees who specialize in this area too!
@vega21262 жыл бұрын
I woluld like to know how to find a Questionnaire to mesearu if these principles hab been implemented in a youth homelessness program
@mariamunozpiz6070 Жыл бұрын
I’m a trauma survivor does that make me trauma informed? I don’t have the titles but I can discern tactics I couldn’t before on abusers and so on
@__softspot__3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for this great Video. I recently started tattooing and trauma and consent informed work is a key principle in my eyes.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your response! I agree. There’s actually also research showing that tattoos can help someone in the meaning making process after death or trauma.
@__softspot__3 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixTraumaCenter Yes, i've had the book "could this be magic" by Tamara santibañez recommended to me, which i think covers that exact topic- i haven't had the chance to read it yet though. I'd be happy to see more videos like this or hear your recommendations! Thank you for your answer!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
@@__softspot__ I can't find the book I read about it years ago. But with a quick online search I found a book on Tattoos and Trauma for emergency responders and multiple research studies including this qualitative study on sexual trauma survivors' motivations for tattoos as non-traditional healing - www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/01639625.2019.1565524
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
also, where can we find your tattoo work Morgen?
@suejoker3 жыл бұрын
Great content, Scott!
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Thanks sue! I’m happy it’s helpful! Any other topics you’d like covered for future videos?
@HopefulTribe3 жыл бұрын
@@PhoenixTraumaCenter I appreciate all mental health content and loved that you are a psychodramatist (I am a drama therapist). I'm actually working on a video about trauma informed care and was looking to see what other people had done... My channel is more of a self-help/entertainment channel.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
@@HopefulTribe Great to hear! I will check out your channel too. I always love to meet drama therapists :)
3 жыл бұрын
This is awesome Scott! Such a valuable content.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
@ thanks Özge! I’m happy it’s useful!
@Monicatee4216 Жыл бұрын
Can someone show me how to cite this in APA 7th edition
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
Probably best to cite a peer-reviewed source rather than the youtube video. here's citation to my upcoming book and to SAMHSA's publications on the topic Giacomucci, S. (2023). Trauma-Informed Principles in Group Therapy, Psychodrama, and Organizations: Action Methods for Leadership. Routledge. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014a). SAMHSA’s Concept of Trauma and Guidance for a Trauma-Informed Approach. HHS Publication No. (SMA) 14-4884. Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration. (2014b). Trauma-informed care in behavioral health services. Treatment Improvement Protocol (TIP) Series 57. Rockville, MD: Substance Abuse and Mental Health Services Administration
@irenahabe2855 Жыл бұрын
Uau. Gou got me on TIC. Tanku.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter Жыл бұрын
🙏
@shahilagh2 жыл бұрын
I found academia the most traumatic workplace . All these academics claim about it but they don’t explain how they create a bad environment for everyone especially new professors and really anyone . Just like business schools. They make prescriptions about all other businesses expect their own business haha
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
Which of the 6 principles do you feel your organization embodies best?
@dianatorres3003 жыл бұрын
Right now I think we’re changing our focus to peer support. There continues to be no safety concerns as we strive to address any minor issues as they happen. We’re at the very beginning of our trauma-focused approach.
@PhoenixTraumaCenter3 жыл бұрын
@@dianatorres300 that’s great to hear! Safety seems to be foremost and peer support connects to multiple other TI principles!
@prettyhall617210 ай бұрын
Very useful. Thank you. The hard swallows are distracting.
@sarvi6545Ай бұрын
Love this but omg please the swallowing is so intense 😂
@williamlevy6964 Жыл бұрын
People with trauma don't ask for help. Everyone's lying and laughing and causing this behaviour.