Travel Line Kickstarter Hangout #2 - Aug. 2

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Art Viger Lead Designer and Peter Lockett Supply Chain Director delve deeper into the details of the Peak Design Travel Line which is currently live on Kickstarter at www.pkdsn.com/ks
Be sure to check out the project for great savings on our new travel line, including the Backpack, packing pouches and Camera Cubes.
If you want to head to a specific section, there are some titles and timestamps below:
Storage and accessing small items in the backpack - without using the Tech Pouch
(1:44)
Laptop/Tablet Sleeve (3:24)
Strap Adjusters (5:16)
Strap build\design (7:07)
Padded Waist Straps (9:15)
Different Builds of People wearing the Backpack (10:48)
More on the design of the Back Panel (12:12)
Is it possible to either attach a Slide Strap or extend a shoulder strap in such a way to carry the backpack over one shoulder duffle style? (13:31)
Could you fit a Hydration Bladder in the Laptop compartment? (15:50)
Compression and expansion (17:08)
External Carry (22:30)
Secret stash pockets and Capture attachment point on waist strap (27:35)
Rain Fly (29:38)
Rain Fly compatibility with EDB range (32:41)
Packing Tools (36:04)
Materials (44:50)
Camera Cube Components (48:14)
Packing Cubes/Pouches (53:08)
Tech Pouch (56:08)
Wash Pouch (61:26)

[@VanCamelCat]

I don't have the money to get one of these babies, but I still watch these videos. Why? Because ever since I got the Peak Design everyday backpack 20L, I just love this company, it's design, and the care for details & for the customers they have. And I am obsessed with the design aesthetic & attention to materials & geometry from Art (the designer on the left there at the beginning of this broadcast). Go go Peak Design, go! Always remain as caring and may you always have good business.

[@wichersham]

Great introduction of the bag. What makes peak design so special and unique is people behind are super meticulous just about every detail of the bag. Good job guys!

[@btcpyr]

Love how you point out all the attention to details (e.g. color matching and the exterior differences between the tech and wash pouch). Thank you for the time stamps too!

[@Allride_]

There is so much wrong with the phrase "the complete dongle carry solution" and it's absolutely not your fault guys. Amazing job with the travel line

[@TorIvanBoine]

maybe an idea to make the rain cover pouch a bit taller so it isn't so bulky. So it will fit snuggly in the magnetic pocket.

[@Bronaldoify]

Awesome! But like someone else already said, if you guys could post a pic of what the 10l sling looks like inside the bag, that would be sick. I get it wont be puzzle piece snug, but just gimme a visual please haha.

[@peakdesignvideo]

maybe in the next hangout!

[@ryanyu5051]

Hi PD Team, The new travel bag is really a great bag. I always try to convince myself to buy this bag, and check and check every video on youtube, hangout video, and kickstarter video, but there is just one thing to hold me back：the height. Currently I am using F-stop's Lotus 32L bag for traveling, which is 52.5cm high. It's already a big bag for me. If I want to use the travel line 45L bag as the one bag for traveling, it's OK in nature but still way too big for cities, at least for me. By the way, in addition to the F-stop Lotus, I also take my PD EDB 20L with me for city traveling. For everyday use, I use 5L sling bag, 10L sling bag, and 20L EDB combined, not to mention those clips, straps with different size, pads. I am a big fan of you guys. Based on what I know, this 45L bag can put in a large camera cube and a tech puch combined. This is what the 56cm height can fit. I want to know that, is there any possible that a slightly smaller travel line bag, which maximum fits a large camera cube and maximum capacity around 35L, comes out in the future？ If it’s yes, that would be wonderful. I like all the accessories pouches and bags of the travel bag 45L. If they can fit the future smaller size bag, I can buy those pouches now with the Kickstarter price. I understand that why you guys just release only a large bag at first for a “relatively small” company, since this bag has so many accessories to work on. Hopefully I can get an answer whatsoever.

[@fengstroem]

I love what you do, and I love the way you do it.

[@bagorolin]

Awesome how many details and functionality there is. You really can see the passion you have :). One question: are there some details for the shoe pouch?

[@peakdesignvideo]

more to come!

[@l4rry578]

46:33 If the choice is between camera or clothing, I guess I'll risk getting the shot in my birthday suit...

[@magicdoors]

Regarding the access to the medium and large camera cubes through the sidedoors, wouldn’t it be smarter to have the camera cube doors open downwards so you could stash the door underneath the cube and not have to open both the main bag door and the camere cube door? In the next video could you please show more of the cameracubes and how they accessed through the side doors. Thank you =)

[@NoBrassLeftBehind]

Very glad to hear you guys talk about different color combos in the end, because a mix match is exactly my plan for the Travel Bundle i backed. Can you confirm we can select different color for EACH item such as Black Backpack, Sage Wash Pouch and Black Tech Pouch? If only there was a stretch goal of a Wolf Grey or MAS Grey type color, something in between Black and Sage would be a wonderful surprise just saying!

[@zeistriden]

On the Kickstarter they've confirmed that the colors of each component can be chosen individually from the colors available. Since they've already started production and logistical planning to get the product out to backers and retailers by launch dates it's too late to add new color ways/SKUs right now but if there's enough demand in the future it's not impossible (see adding Black colorway to prior product lines)

[@Jay-dv8fb]

Can we see a two tripod carry video? Common for timelapsers.

[@andrewwangcn916]

great stuff. love my 30l everyday backpack. love all those small bags but too pricey individually, do hope u guys do bundles price for those small items beside the travel bag.

[@emileturcotte8304]

Will you guys hand out bags to reviewers like Chase Reeves before the end of the Kickstarter campain?

[@peakdesignvideo]

We have a limited number of pre-production samples which will be sent to various media organizations and individual reviewers

[@nelsonkskim]

Will you guys please go over "fit" video to show how much mirrorless, full DSLR, and drones gears will fit in them camera bags?

[@peakdesignvideo]

We are planning a Hangout this afternoon PST Time and will post the video on KZbin later, focusing on Camera Carry in the Camera Cubes... Watch this space...

[@lawrenceon1667]

Thanks guys for keeping us so informed and updated on your products. I just had a few questions: 1. Is the black material the same as the black everyday backpack? 2. Reviews of that backpack have concluded that it picks up dust very easily. Do you see this as an ongoing issue in the travel line? 3. Will we be able to choose different colours for each specific item if we bought a reward with multiple items? Thanks for taking the time to answer.

[@peakdesignvideo]

Yes, is the same black as the backpack. Some minor changes have been made to the fabric since initial production so shows less dirt, but will still show more than a varigated color like sage yes, you can choose all of your colors in the survey when the campaign is over. Note that packing and camera cubes only come in 1 color

[@K3S01L2]

You mentioned that hydration bladders do fail, well if you bought a real bladder like Source or Camelbak military line bladders they do never fail. Unless you drive over them with truck but then you might have other problems with your camera gear also. And no their military line is not that special you might think, actually those are just a bit more expensive than a normal sport line but they will last you forever, highly recommend those. Also I do not recommend to put 3 liters bladder on either side of the bag because that will put it in very unbalanced state even tho you would run two bladders on either side you will drink only from one at the time. So having a bladder center and closest to your back is very important if you're going to have a lot of weight on the bag itself. Also if its not impossible could you add a little hook in the top of the bag (inside, like against the back panel) it would help us to hang our bladders and keep them close the zippers like its done in back bags that are designed to be carried with bladder. Otherwise you might run into problem that your bladder drinking tube is too short and it can't reach the shoulder straps from the bottom of the bag. Thank you. Also is the laptop sleeve sized so it will fit normal size 17" also without it expanding from the sides? Just thinking is my 15" laptop moving around there, its pretty slippery from both sides so it probably do if the laptop compartment is made for 17". And is these bags you have in the video made already in the same manufacturer that will do the mass production then. I am always very very suspicious about products that are made in elsewhere than USA, Canada, Finland, Sweden, Germany etc...

[@zeistriden]

Going by the size of the laptop/tablet sleeve on the preproduction units they had available at the flagship store in SF, a 15" MacBook Pro is pretty snug inside - no moving around at all. Definitely not sized for a 17". Regarding hydration bladder mounting, this product line is designed more as a traveler's bag than a hiker's bag so designing the hardware to accommodate hydration bladders isn't a high priority. This is essentially wearable luggage with the adaptability of becoming a camera backpack once your travel kit is unloaded at your destination. It can't be everything for everyone. That being said, it wouldn't be difficult to rig a hang line with some paracord from the toggles at the top of the bag (used to lock the side access panels) to keep a hydration bladder up top - but I don't think the laptop sleeve is large enough to hold a bladder as large as 3L. ThinkTank Photo/MindShift Gear make some fantastic camera-centered packs that are more suited for extended hiking including accommodations for hydration bladders if that's what you're planning your gear around.

[@FCotterill]

1. Top access is essential to get out a Camera+telephoto lens or some other key gadget/item - in Seconds. Please could you enable this b’pack with a zipped Top Access Flap [check out Vanguard Alta Sky packs for excellent example]. It is too often awkward in a hurry and/or in tight/muddy spot to put the bag flat and open up the back or side panels (where items always topple out). Yes, one can swing it around on the hipbelt but this needs swing-space. Top access is quickest etc! The Alta Sky packs make Top-Access the central feature for not only outdoor genres (obviously wildlife) but also in tight spots - airplanes, in vehicle, crowded cafes to name just three very common situations. It follows the corresponding opening is also required for Top Access on the Medium and Large camera Cubes. 2. The rain cover should be permanently attached, albeit hidden under the Outer Magnetic Flap - irritating with so many other brands where it’s loose some place in the bag, waiting to go AWOL. 3. I understand the difficulty of adding a conspicuous flap on to the outside of the pack.... BUT how about a robust Fold Out Cube folded into its “Hideout” within the Outer Magnetic Pocket? Said flap will fold in with the RainFly. We can fold out this Pouch to form to outside pocket to secure the feet of tripods and all kinds of awkward gadgets/items that are strapped outside? 4. You use a gripped Nikon D800 as your design guide- the hotshoe stands (just) proud. What are the actual dimensions? A Gripped D850 stands 170mm This will be 5mm taller with attached arca-swiss or L-plate. Next Video - please demonstrate how a big telephoto lens fits in the Large Camera Cube. You had one there but it then got shoved aside :-( Many clients pack primes of max dia. close to 175mm (hood) _ eg. the 400 f2.8 and 600 f4 Nikkors. I see the current dimensions are 330 x 430 x 180mm. Could be tight for these bigger items! Please clarify this with a live demo.

[@Supplychains]

Wow! I really like this clip :)

[@Leo-jd2ny]

I Love the Peak Design products, but for this backpack I find it very bad that the zipper must take all the forces. The one handle and the tea straps are attached to the back. Since I have no confidence that not sometime the zipper opens. ??????????

[@peakdesignvideo]

Hi Helmut, we've had 15 prototypes of this bag made over the past 18 months, it's been used while climbing in Yosemite and this hasn't been an issue.

[@Leo-jd2ny]

Was also tested, at what weight the zipper no longer holds or by the weight in the backpack opens?

[@peakdesignvideo]

In testing, the straps on the bag fail before the zipper even begins to fatigue - is burly!

[@juanmcm]

Hello people of _Peak Design_ I've some questions about that bagpack. *_1.-_* Are you going to create that product in other colors? I like that in black *BUT* I'm afraid that will decolored with the use... And the green/grey is we can say _'strange'_ even compared with other products like Everyday bagpack. *_2.-_* Is the textil resistent? I'm "lucky" because I'm not a photographer but here in Spain is common in some areas that some robbers will cut the bags to reach out the cameras or other goodies... These people need a big hug. *_3.-_* When will be the next hangout? Thanks in advance and good luck with the new line!

[@peakdesignvideo]

- no plans for other colors at this point - fabric is not slash proof, but is padded, so would be hard to cut straight through - We try to do hangouts about every week or so!

[@juanmcm]

You know? I've had an idea, why not a cube/pouch as _textile portable fridge_ for the people who love to walk on nature? I mean, a _small/medium_ (and maybe a _large one_ too) for those who loves to carry with them while hiking, walking and so on? In example, a small fridge pouch, with a _tech pouch_ with a _camera cube_ and *_voilà_* you are ready to spend a day in the mountains!

[@JoeyD4rb]

What about a little rainfly for the sling bags?

[@lanci0308]

In the small camera bag. I was hoping to see if i could fit my mavic drone + remote, minus cables and batteries with a Canon DSLR Rebel T1 (Smaller than in your video). I dont mind detaching body from lens. I have 2 lens (18-55mm) & (55-250mm).thanks in advance

[@peakdesignvideo]

You might be able to get get in there with the lens attached, but even with that may be a super tight fit

[@Obfluss.S]

I've always wondered if a 5L sling will work well with a backpack (the PD Everyday backpack or any other camera backpack). It would be great if you guys can show more about how you would use them (either with the Everyday backpack, or the travel backpack) together. (some pro tips?) Another question is, as you' talked about the option of taking out the camera cube and checking the backpack in separately (which is quite possible if you happened to buy too much things during the trips), will you guys come up with some cover or protection for the backpack, so that they won't be damaged during the rough and brutal luggage transfer process? (The backpack might be tough enough to handle it, but I think many of the future users don't fancy serious scratches on their bag).

[@peakdesignvideo]

Yes, the 5L sling can be used in place of a small camera cube Yes, you can use the rainfly as protection if you are checking your bag

[@williampetrinczyk9274]

Please make the waist straps long enough for big guys. Like at least a 42 waist

[@electrichimp]

Hey guys! Great stuff. I was wondering if there was ANY chance they could implement the inner side pockets (like the ones on both side access doors of the Everyday Backpack or the one in the flap of the Slings) to the side access doors of the Travel Pack. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 Seriously, the Travel Backpack is soooo dope, and I love how Peak Design finds functionality in every corner of their bags... But I feel that on their current state the inner part of the side doors aren't being taken whole advantage of. I know it's a long shot, but having experienced the convenience those kind of pockets give on everyday use, I just wanted throw that out there.

[@peakdesignvideo]

No plans to add more pockets at this point, but thanks for the feedback!

[@electrichimp]

Peak Design Video :(

[@Minh_vn]

Thanks for the hangouts, appreciate it very much. I've got one question though: Can you fit a gimbal (zhiyun crane v2 without the battery handle) into the medium camera cube? Ideal scenario would be gimbal + DSLR + 2 lenses.

[@peakdesignvideo]

See full specs here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/peak-design/the-travel-line-versatile-travel-backpack-packing#h:product-specs

[@antoinec.142]

Hello Could you do a demonstration trying to put the everyday sling 10l compressed (without anything inside) in the travel backpack filled ? Thank you in advance, one of your french customers who adore you

[@peakdesignvideo]

Maybe in another hangout.

[@tyktjavs]

Love the bag.! Not quite sure if you showed us how many of the packing cubes it will fit though? It looks like it’s 2 medium and 2 small in the main compartment if it’s not expanded. Or am I wrong?

[@peakdesignvideo]

1 Medium + 1 small in the main compartment. Could also get 1 of each in the expanded area as well if not "fully loaded"

[@rptempmail1]

doesn't seem to have load lifters. is that correct? why not have them with this 45l bag that could get so heavy ? should get really uncomfortable to carry without them!

[@peakdesignvideo]

Has a padded waist strap that does a great job of offsetting the weight

[@FCotterill]

Brilliant!

[@joshkim1790]

Love it!

[@ericcheung1248]

Question about the side access door. Are there two zips like the EDB for opening the side access door? I.e choice of opening it from the bottom or opening from the top? From the videos, seems like you can only open from the top

[@peakdesignvideo]

Just 1 zipper for side access on the travel bag

[@seojinkim6164]

Could you show us what it looks like on a shorter person, say under 5' 5"?

[@seojinkim6164]

Better if it's fully packed

[@heaventje]

The short guy in the video is 5'6".

[@kenjikwong437]

can you guys do a comparison between tect poach and field poach? thank you.

[@peakdesignvideo]

maybe in the next hangout!

[@drparham]

So I backed the project very excited but I don't think I was asked a color choice will that be determined later?

[@peakdesignvideo]

You'll choose your color later after the campaign is over when you give your shipping details etc

[@Squidblimp]

I have a question about the Packing Cubes. You showed there is a "dirty side" for the Packing Cubes, and I was wondering how good it is at keeping odors out of the main compartment.

[@peakdesignvideo]

there is no "odor' protectanct other than the physical barrier

[@Squidblimp]

But is the physical barrier a breathable one or not? That is what I meant. Does it let a significant amount of air/water through from dirty clothes?

[@ryanfrench9465]

Can you confirm whether the color on the lighter bag is the same Ash as on other products? Also, what are the odds of seeing a Charcoal version? Thanks!

[@peakdesignvideo]

No, the Sage is a completely different color although is similar to ash, but green in tint, not grey/blue as with Ash

[@magnusnordstrom3238]

Waterproof? How is the bottomplate designed, is there a thicker fabric? One big problem is also, when you have the pack packed and need to use the admin pouches, they steal space inwards. How is this pack designed considering that?

[@peakdesignvideo]

Yes, bottom fabric is made of an even more durable waterproof fabric than the rest of the bag

[@zeistriden]

For 'admin pouches' if you're referring to the wash and tech pouches, there is some extra space in the main compartment beyond the 'three units' measurement they use for filling the volume of the bag which can fit an extra pouch. If you mean the pouches on the inside of the front compartment and the Organization Panel, if those pockets are packed full the bag does have the capacity to flex outwards if needed due to the nature of soft-sided bags plus there's the extra 10L expansion zips around the front compartment that can be opened up for more space.

[@ndru11]

How many external carry strap that will come with the travel backpack? And do the hidden side pocket exists on both side or only on the one side?

[@peakdesignvideo]

2 external carry straps and yes, both sides have the stash pocket

[@thejshetty]

Is the dirty section of the packing cube flat or does it have dimension? Is there some kind of divider that allows for the dirty side to take up more space from the clean side as you put more dirty clothes in that section?

[@peakdesignvideo]

Has the same volume of the clean side when filled up

[@zeistriden]

The divider is made of a stretchy fabric material, so as clothing goes from one side to the other the soiled side will fill the space vacated in the clean side.

[@sarunyuthepbunchonchai7431]

Can the tech pouch be transformed to be a bum bag or waist bag by using a slide lite strap?

[@peakdesignvideo]

Yes, you could, but not the easiest to adjust in that position/use case

[@thehoomstead712]

Can the bag stand up on its own when loaded?

[@peakdesignvideo]

Yup, obviously depends on what you have inside it and how it is distributed, but you can see the bags standing in the video.

[@dacree0216]

more importantly, how about empty?

[@markymaarty]

Why not use a microphone on the person asking questions??

[@MrDragonorp]

How much external carry straps do you get with this bag, and where can I buy more if needed?

[@peakdesignvideo]

You will receive 2 with the bag. No ability to purchase extras at this point

[@user-tx3lk5dx8t]

Can I use this for college and also for travel.

[@reece_7567]

I would recommend a everyday backpack for college (school), I use mine for school

[@KillerX27]

will this fit under the seat? also if we purchased on kickstarter, do we get a choice in color?

[@peakdesignvideo]

If compressed to smallest state it could, but mostly designed for the overhead bin. Yes, you will choose the color in the survey once the campaign is over

[@goldberg1174]

the pocket for the rainfly sucks. it's better to have it zipped up any internal compression straps?

[@EdBacon]

Can the medium camera pouch fit into a Pelican 1510?

[@peakdesignvideo]

See full specs here: www.kickstarter.com/projects/peak-design/the-travel-line-versatile-travel-backpack-packing#h:product-specs

[@peterhui9353]

How does the bag fit for a petite person (under 5’5”)?

[@peakdesignvideo]

We are going to post a comparison photo soon, we are just working on it, please keep an eye on www.pkdsn.com/ks (on the Kickstarter Page)

[@drparham]

Is there a maximum weight it can carry in lbs/kg?

[@peakdesignvideo]

Not a specified maximum carry weight, but please consider the construction is not designed to be an 'expedition-type' backpack.

[@Leo-jd2ny]

This is a very important question.

[@drparham]

Peak Design Video yeah I get that but if I bring two full fram bodies 3 lenses Mavic Pro MacBook air regular ipad and whatever else fits in there.....will the shape and form of the bag hold?

[@drparham]

Camera gear gets pretty heavy

[@peakdesignvideo]

Absolutely, that is what it has been designed for. There are stiffeners on the outside of the bag to help it keep its form, I believe this is briefly discussed in the first Hangout. I can have it added to the questions for the next hangout.

[@patrickmolleda]

do you have a dedicated key holder same as with the everyday messenger bag?

[@peakdesignvideo]

We don't, but you can purchase them separately from our site if you specifically want to add that functionality

[@KLUTch_G]

How would the wash pouch go through tsa? Like with toiletries and such inside it.

[@peakdesignvideo]

You will need to remove liquids in the same way that you would for any equivalent toiletries bag

[@KLUTch_G]

Peak Design Video alright was just wondering. Thank you

[@peakdesignvideo]

Sorry if that came across as too functional a reply, lots of replies to write, just trying to keep it brief.

[@danygotube]

what's the netweight in kg (empty) of this new bag?

[@peakdesignvideo]

www.kickstarter.com/projects/peak-design/the-travel-line-versatile-travel-backpack-packing#h:product-specs

[@blcsfo]

Your prices are much too high. The prices sold on Kicker Starter should be what should be sold at retail. Also many of your bags sold on Kick Starter are resold on eBay. People don’t seem to want to keep them.

[@victorli5156]

Will you be selling the tech pouch separately?

[@peakdesignvideo]

yes, can get via the a la carte reward on Kickstarter

[@ianvins1955]

what ist the size for the medium camera cube?

[@peakdesignvideo]

www.kickstarter.com/projects/peak-design/the-travel-line-versatile-travel-backpack-packing#h:product-specs

[@Alnanaz]

First!

[@yanntornare8763]

so many ,ääh'

[@slhibbs]

too many bags confusing

[@joelschafer]

I realize you guys are not professional presenters but you said 'uh' 10x in the first 30 seconds. I counted. Not a big deal but REALLY annoying and distracting to try and uh listen to that over and over. Just a sincere criticism not trying to be rude.

[@peakdesignvideo]

Uh, I don't know what to say to that.