Traveling on the World's DEEPEST High-Speed Train - SBB Giruno from Zürich to Milan

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Simon Andersen

Simon Andersen

Күн бұрын

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Join me for a one-of-a-kind journey on Switzerland's mountain-traversing high-speed train. We will travel through the deepest and longest railway tunnel in the entire world: the Gotthard Base Tunnel. At 57 km long and sitting 2,450 meters below the surface, this tunnel represents one of the world's most fascinating engineering feats. Experience the marvel of 21st-century infrastructure as we journey in first class from Zurich to Milan.
Train type: Stadler SMILE / SBB RABe 501 "Giruno"
Route: Zürich Hauptbahnhof to Milano Centrale
Train: EC 317
Distance: 256km
Journey time: 3h17m
Average speed: 77km/h
Price: 26€ 2nd 62€ 1st 13€ Seat reservation

Пікірлер: 210
@Fwit69420
@Fwit69420 15 күн бұрын
I moved from Chicago to Switzerland and there is no comparison the Swiss rail network has enabled me to travel anywhere without a car. Whilst in Chicago we own 3 and hardly ever use the rail lines unless we’re going to see sports events in the city and simple don’t want to sit in traffic. ❤❤❤
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 14 күн бұрын
I live in Denmark, sold my car 20 years ago, and I don't miss all the bills it generated.
@immanuelsammy2966
@immanuelsammy2966 14 күн бұрын
Trust you will love Switzerland!!! I was born and raised in Aarau a town near Zurich. Swiss Public transport are the best🇨🇭 ❤❤
@rachelehrenberg9231
@rachelehrenberg9231 14 күн бұрын
L'ange protecteur har været på Zürich Hauptbahnhof siden 1997. Det er et fast inventar. Når jeg møder venner, er det et mødested. Fremragende rapport som altid min nabo fra din gamle schweiziske tante.
@bernhardheiniger6719
@bernhardheiniger6719 6 күн бұрын
⁠@@immanuelsammy2966so en Chabis - gang mal uf Japan
@immanuelsammy2966
@immanuelsammy2966 6 күн бұрын
@@bernhardheiniger6719 nei mir gots guet da danke
@TherconJair
@TherconJair 15 күн бұрын
The "grand open space" right when you enter the station used to be the old main hall built in 1871, there used to be six platforms there, until 1930, when the main platform hall was added.
@urbanfile3861
@urbanfile3861 5 күн бұрын
Something similar happened in Torino Porta Nuova station
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 15 күн бұрын
Bellinzona? Arth Goldau. Doesn't hurt the otherwise excellent clip - well done \m/
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Yeah, not really sure how I mixed that up. I should have spotted it when I added the graphic correctly for Arth Goldau. Oh well, glad you enjoyed the video anyway :D
@officialmcdeath
@officialmcdeath 14 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen it's all good - it's like your mind was running even faster than the train 🤣 \m/
@nanashipersonne4151
@nanashipersonne4151 14 күн бұрын
The cool art piece at the Zürich HB is permanently installed by the artist Niki de Saint Phalle.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
A cool! Thanks for sharing
@Ryan_Winter
@Ryan_Winter 9 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen It has been there for a LONG, LONG TIME. 🙂
@Zwangsworkaholic
@Zwangsworkaholic 8 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen it was a gift from securitas to the sbb for the 150 year jubilee of swiss trains in 1997. we've had trains for a year longer than our federal state and constitution.
@ericpraline
@ericpraline 7 күн бұрын
Das mit de securitas han ich nöd gwüsst
@RealGestumblindi
@RealGestumblindi 5 күн бұрын
@@Zwangsworkaholic Actually, we've had trains even a bit longer. Though we celebrated the 150 year jubilee of the first domestic train line in Switzerland, the Spanisch Brötli Bahn, in 1997, the first train line reaching Switzerland was the Elsässerbahn from Strasbourg to Basel three years earlier, in 1844.
@genoobtlp4424
@genoobtlp4424 14 күн бұрын
The reservation is actually only required on the Italian part of the journey, so until chiasso you‘d have been fine without one
@MG-ff8eu
@MG-ff8eu 12 күн бұрын
The reservation is mandatory only in Italy, however passengers to Italy have their place reserved right up from the departure station in Switzerland, so look if your seat is reserved for such passengers. It is also possible to reserve a seat for a national Swiss journey, however basically nobody usually does it, as trains are big and frequent. However, sometimes on peak days people do reserve seats also on national journeys.
@andreabartsch
@andreabartsch 10 күн бұрын
​@@MG-ff8eu, this applies only if someone buys the combined ticket. For instance, as I have a general abbonement in Switzerland I usually buy only the ticket of the Italian network starting from the border station. In my case the reservation applies only for the Italian leg.
@MG-ff8eu
@MG-ff8eu 10 күн бұрын
@@andreabartsch Sure, because for the ticketing system these are considered two separate journeys. Note that buying separate tickets (even if you don't have a general abo) split in Chiasso might be cheaper than a single combined ticket. Or the other way round, on the same train you might find a Zürich-Milan discounted ticket cheaper than a Zürich-Chiasso ticket.
@markmbalagtas2230
@markmbalagtas2230 13 күн бұрын
Prettiest train so far in your channel. It definitely showed Swiss quality and efficiency ❤ thank you Simon
@WeichenherzByChrookie
@WeichenherzByChrookie 10 күн бұрын
Lovely review! as a swiss guy im happy with your pronunciation of swiss location names :D
@anouk1636
@anouk1636 2 күн бұрын
Knew id find you here
@aviano72
@aviano72 14 күн бұрын
Such a beautiful train 😍 2:05 And it's RABe 501, 511 is Stadler KISS
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Whoops, not sure how that happened, i could swear i looked it up before adding the graphic :P
@zeisselgaertner3212
@zeisselgaertner3212 14 күн бұрын
The upper power outlet is the Swiss type J, the lower one is the German Schuko, type F which can be used by all combined E+F plugs in Europe, exept of Denmark, the UK and Ireland. Both outlets work with the reduced two prong Euro-plug.
@williambruce7943
@williambruce7943 14 күн бұрын
This is correct. Italian sockets have a middle hole which is the same size as the other two, with a third pin that obviously makes the plug a lot safer. Unfortunately, consumer electronics sold in Italy increasingly use less safe but compatible standard EU plugs.
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 14 күн бұрын
@@williambruce7943 many low power appliances (such as chargers) use the EU two-pin standard, but beefier appliances (like power cords for PCs and standard kitchen appliances) use either the 16A three pin plug, or the Shucko one.
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 14 күн бұрын
Small correction: there are two types of three pin electric plug in Italy, 10A (smaller pins, found in things like power cords for PCs) and 16A (in beefier appliances like fridges and dishwashers. But the latter is interchanged with the Shucko (which honestly feels safer to use)
@zeisselgaertner3212
@zeisselgaertner3212 14 күн бұрын
@@gab_v250 Schuko (no C) 🙂 = SchutzKontakt (protective contact) which refers to the third contact (earth potential) added to the newly developed plug in 1925. So by the way : next year we can celebrate 100 years of safe use of electricity.
@adrianguggisberg3656
@adrianguggisberg3656 2 күн бұрын
⁠@@zeisselgaertner3212The upper outlet is the Swiss T13 outlet, not a J outlet. It is not compatible with any Schuko-type plug, including F/E. There was the very old Swiss T2 outlet/plug that was similar to F/E, but it is illegal in Switzerland since the 1970's for safety reasons. Swiss J outlets/plugs (J15, J25, J40 and J75) are industrial connectors, which unfortunately are now replaced by the clumsy CEE16, CEE32 and CEE63 examples of bad design.
@user6343
@user6343 14 күн бұрын
Couple of corrections or specialities, great video though: - the art installation in the main hall is basically permanent and has been there for many years already. - Trains to Milan only depart from the main hall because only those tracks are connected to the northportal of the Zimmerberg base tunnel. - Reservations are only compulsory between Chiasso and Milano Centrale as in CH there usually isn't any reservation obligation while in italy in long distance services it always is. - In regular service usually max speed is 200 kph. The Gotthard base tunnel is built in a way that in case of delay trains can accelerate to 230 to catch up.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I'm pretty sure they can get up to 250 km/h when they extend along the italian HSR lines on the limited services to Bolonga and Venice?
@user6343
@user6343 14 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen The funny thing is they can't as the Giruno can only run at 200 kph with Italian electrification (it doesn't have enough power). This has become a massive headache for SBB and Italian operators such as Trenitalia and NTV because the Giruno either can't find slots or is basically blocking the rest because they have to run at lower speeds and lower capacity (train has less seating and less offer than competitors)
@jm3779
@jm3779 9 күн бұрын
@@user6343- The train SBB Giruno aka STADLER SMILE can run 250km/h independently of the catenary voltage system. But the Italien HighSpeedLines are set up to 300km/h serviced speed and therefore interfere with the Freccarossa timetable. Therefore the access to this tracks are limited and the Giruno has been forced to the slower tracks for example between Milano and Bologna.
@aoilpe
@aoilpe 14 күн бұрын
0:53 This is the platform hall of the second station- the actual building - from 1871 until 1930. 4:19 It’s more the timetable who’s not asking for more speed. Don’t forget ; Swiss Public Transportation is a Network ! As quick as possible as slow as necessary - integrates trains,busses,boats and ferries,cable cars, funiculars and cog railways in one timetable nationwide… Bellinzona in the north….you messed up…!
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Yeah i'm not really sure what went wrong with Bellinzona, as the graphic i do after the voiceover for Arth-Goldau is correct but i say bellinzona haha
@JaNieWie
@JaNieWie 14 күн бұрын
PKP Intercity should honestly buy these units.
@Anderten1989
@Anderten1989 14 күн бұрын
Kind of funny that you release this Video on the day the F1 Grandprix is in Monza :-)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I don't have any interest in F1, so it's just a happy coincidence. :P
@Satyachandra108
@Satyachandra108 3 күн бұрын
This is my regular way from Zurich till Brunnen. So I know this journey really well. Also went to Locarno a lot. Love the views and I am really grateful living here 🫶🏼
@danielroach5415
@danielroach5415 13 күн бұрын
rode one myself from Peschiera to milan a few months ago - very comfy, rode the italo train back after probably the shortest trip to Milan ever!
@PeterNGloor
@PeterNGloor 9 күн бұрын
the train is so good because it is made by Stadler rail.
@tomburnham5119
@tomburnham5119 13 күн бұрын
We went on that line last year and the southbound train broke down in the middle of the Ceneri Base Tunnel. We were eventually hauled back to Bellinzona and the passengers were decanted on to the following train, which was diverted via the classic route (much more scenic, though slower).
@TheSwissHiker
@TheSwissHiker 11 күн бұрын
The reservation is only needed for the Italian part of the journey. Till Chiasso you don't need to reserve. And if you don't care to change train in Lugano to a non highspeed train to Milano you can ride the whole journey for free with an interrail (I did this about 2 months ago when heading to San Marino. The normal trains from Lugano to Milano need about the same time so its only the change of trains. Greetings from Switzerland, Benjamin
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 10 күн бұрын
Great tip! Thanks Benjamin, greetings from Denmark :-)
@goodial
@goodial 4 күн бұрын
btw: the angel by Niki de Saint Phalle in the Zurich Main Station is a permanent art piece, it will always be there ;)
@carlo_berruti
@carlo_berruti 10 күн бұрын
Beautiful video. Pity for the clear mistake at min. 05:05 where it is stated “our next stop is Bellinzona, which will also be the last one before crossing under the Alps”. Of course it’s the opposite: when coming from Zurich, Bellinzona is the first stop AFTER crossing the Alps (the name itself suggests it is in the Italian-speaking Ticino, south of the Alpine range). Bellinzona will be the last stop before crossing the Alps when doing the opposite trip, for Milan to Zurich
@Hongaars1969
@Hongaars1969 14 күн бұрын
Thank you for this, nearly two years ago I travelled Zürich to Interlaken in winter snow. The country is beautiful and nice to see the scenery in the summer as well. The best trains in Europe are in Switzerland. Thanks again. From Dubrovnik Zoltán
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! I agree! Thanks for watching
@Zaslawsky
@Zaslawsky 11 күн бұрын
J’ai toujours du plaisir a voyager avec les Giruno. Je passe volontiers au wagon restaurant pour grignoter un petit déjeuner continental avec un jus d’orange frais et un cappuccino ou un latte macchiato. C’est un petit luxe qui embellit mon voyage et j’aime bien l’adage qui prétend que « Quand c’est bon, ce n’est pas cher » 😊 Ça permet surtout en passant par le tunnel de base du Gothard à passer le temps où il n’y a pas de paysage à admirer. Parfois pour le retour je prend une composition Stadler bronze qui va de Locarno à Zurich sans changement en passant par l’ancienne ligne du Gothard où on peut apprécier les ouvrages d’art et les tunnels hélicoïdaux qui nous proposent trois vues différentes de l’église du village de Wassen après la sortie du tunnel de faite C’est un voyage plus lent mais avec beaucoup plus de paysages à admirer ce qui est aussi une très agréable manière de voyager. Bien à vous.
@giudalculm6619
@giudalculm6619 5 күн бұрын
there are over 4000 trains departing and arriving in Zürich-HB every day. That makes it the most busy (in terms of train frequencies) in the world
@jamesbutler5570
@jamesbutler5570 3 күн бұрын
In switzerland, we do not call that a ' luxury high speed train'. We call it 'train'. Its a train like every swiss train. And by the way. Its a swiss and a EU power socket. Its not a Italian power socket
@NormanAllen-ps9ju
@NormanAllen-ps9ju 10 күн бұрын
I would rather have seen the food than the toilet !
@erlking5868
@erlking5868 5 күн бұрын
The prices in the restaurant are not just swiss prices. Even for swiss standards, they are quite high. 😅
@jojolords4523
@jojolords4523 3 күн бұрын
5:18 You mean Arth-Goldau, Bellinzona is on the other side of the Alps.
@dna9640
@dna9640 5 күн бұрын
I am lucky enough to travel by the shinkansen this summer. Swiss trains are excellent, but the shinkansen is just a whole new level way above. those leg rests ...
@cybroxde
@cybroxde 15 сағат бұрын
The artwork in the main hall is "L‘ange protecteur", a "Nana" from the artist Niki de Saint Phalle. It's been there for like 20 years and I guess it will probably stay another 20. Tourists meet at the meeting point 20m next to it, locals meet at the "fat angel", that's just how it is :D
@nathalieabed-werner5951
@nathalieabed-werner5951 3 күн бұрын
That protecting angel "Nana" is from Niki de Saint Phalle and it is hanging there since 1997. It's my meeting point since ever hanging there..
@Anderten1989
@Anderten1989 14 күн бұрын
1:05 thats a Nana, we have some of them in Hannover: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanas_(Hannover)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Ahhh cool! I did not know it was part of a larger thing!
@steveosaur
@steveosaur 3 күн бұрын
Just a tip: a polarizer filter on your lens can cut through window reflections.
@subschnee4573
@subschnee4573 3 күн бұрын
Next time check out the tables in the childrens area. If you open them, you'll find a board games specially designed for the SBB/CFF/FFS. In all types of IC trains there are different games printed onto the desks. Neat detail.
@disekjoumoer
@disekjoumoer 4 күн бұрын
I work for the company that designed the livery and interior of this train. Madlads.
@sunny_muffins
@sunny_muffins 9 күн бұрын
2:54 That`s an important note! I booked my tickets (first class+reservation) during on a busy weekend and it was more than full! People without reservation had to leave the train at Arth Goldau, because it could be potential danger in case of emergency in the tunnel.
@zollerboy1429
@zollerboy1429 4 күн бұрын
Very nice video! At Zürich HB you actually missed the two French TGVs standing there in the departure shot. Also, German ICEs regularly depart from Zürich.
@wegwahrheitleben
@wegwahrheitleben 3 күн бұрын
Unfortunately, that is only partly true. Since the German ICE trains often have long delays, the SBB has decided not to allow them to continue crossing the border. This is because they regularly caused the entire timetable system to become disrupted. We really do have a lot of traffic on the rails and a delay of more than five minutes ultimately disrupts train traffic for the whole day.
@D-ALCC
@D-ALCC 10 күн бұрын
I am surprised that the Eurocity at 1:14 went to Munich cause normaly 6 of 10 trains don't go!
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 10 күн бұрын
Actually it arrived from there, i was on it :P
@yucanyou4854
@yucanyou4854 14 күн бұрын
The thing is i ride on the giruno every week as they drive on wendsdays in the morning really early to zurich from olten.
@AndreasWartmann
@AndreasWartmann 7 күн бұрын
Interesting video, but did you ask all the people in the video whether you can record them without blurring their faces?
@Validity_TN
@Validity_TN 5 күн бұрын
no one cares
@jamoin3829
@jamoin3829 4 күн бұрын
I bet you asked them in your videos of the rammstein concert and the air show. You are soo swiss😂
@wewillrockyou1986
@wewillrockyou1986 14 күн бұрын
The silent 1st class cabin is a very nice place to spend a trip, it feels quite private and being at the end of the train there's very little foot traffic. The only problem is the really annoying electrical buzz in that coach, and the seats are not very comfortable imho, they are hard and not particularly well shaped, the recline also doesn't lock in place well enough so if you shift a bit on the seat you'll likely push the seat back into the upgright position.
@kotzauftrittyt
@kotzauftrittyt 8 күн бұрын
Fun how SBB turns into FFS within 3 hours
@SpotterCrazyperson
@SpotterCrazyperson 14 күн бұрын
Great train!
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
It sure is!
@danielroesner2342
@danielroesner2342 2 күн бұрын
No folding Table,no water melon Tine,no senseless destruction,no scars and a Scott only half the Width...strange...
@ceemichel
@ceemichel 14 күн бұрын
You mention Bellinzona, but the stop on the northern side was Arth-Goldau, where the routes from Zurich and Basel/Luzern meet to continue south through the alps. Bellinzona is the first stop south of the alps...
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Yup, not sure how that managed to slip in there, i see ive done the graphic as Arth-Goldau as it should be, but failed to notice i was saying Bellinzona
@HATECELL
@HATECELL 6 күн бұрын
Definitely an improvement over the Cessoalpino
@eliteiel9747
@eliteiel9747 8 күн бұрын
Stadlers been bringing out some really good trains lately. I do wonder if Switzerland might just buy exclusively from them in the future considering the recent Bombardier RaBe train problems.
@thenamen935
@thenamen935 6 күн бұрын
Since the SBB is state owned they cannot buy trains without a "Ausschreibung". This is a process where they have to tell the public what kind of train with which features they want to buy and then the different manufacturers can send them their proposal. After that the SBB has to take the offer which fits their "Ausschreibung" the best. They can't just give the job to the company they want to.
@RealGestumblindi
@RealGestumblindi 5 күн бұрын
@@thenamen935 Though sometimes such "Ausschreibungen" can be formulated in such a specific way that they already know that only one (the desired) manufacturer's products will really fit them...
@dsdonovan
@dsdonovan 14 күн бұрын
Interesting history on the name of the town Zug.
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030
@jean-emmanuelrotzetter6030 14 күн бұрын
There is not train "up to the old Gotthard pass". The old tunnel built 140 years ago is at 1'150 m altitude, the pass [road] 2'106 m.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I'm obviously talking about the railway pass, no need for this pedantry, no one was confused.
@eljanrimsa5843
@eljanrimsa5843 10 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen But the railway is not going over the pass, it's going through a tunnel instead. It's up to the old Gotthard tunnel.
@eprohoda
@eprohoda 15 күн бұрын
Enjoyed,well ,)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@nathanaelbaumgartner
@nathanaelbaumgartner 2 күн бұрын
Booking is (as far is I know) only required in Italy due to the abominamable "practice" of Italians (in particular, as far is a know (again), because of Trenitalia) In Switzerland usually no booking is required! Because civilized, pragmatic and sensible.
@touwenwaterman1229
@touwenwaterman1229 14 күн бұрын
20 years ago the Italian railway was known to be one of the least performant and comfortable railways in Europe. But is the feeling that i have from many videos on the internet right, that they are really making good progress especially in their long distance rail?
@gab_v250
@gab_v250 14 күн бұрын
Infrastructure aside, Trenitalia has worked hard on making better trains in its three core sectors: Regional trains, Intercity (long distance and night trains) and Frecciarossa (high speed). They launched recently the Treni Turistici Italiani section, touristic travels which can be booked as a normal train. Infrastructure is sometimes lacking, but because of the big legacy of the network (most was built in the 19th century) and of many renewal works (which slow down the speeds)
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Italy has been working a lot on their high-speed railway network, which is among some of the best now, but for many regional and legacy lines its still a mixed bag of old and new stuff.
@Konayo_
@Konayo_ 4 күн бұрын
Wondering - do you usually ask for the people being filmed if they agree to be filmed? They kinda look surprised haha Good filming and coverage though - even as a Swiss person (knowing this train) it's cool to see all the details
@codeblue9004
@codeblue9004 8 күн бұрын
I live not too far away from Stadler where they build trains.
@teemomain9392
@teemomain9392 4 сағат бұрын
i belive that there are more than 10 underground tracks...
@mrle0719
@mrle0719 6 күн бұрын
what fps and shutter speed did you use to film ? it might be the reason for the electric lights flickering
@TravelTheCraftyLife
@TravelTheCraftyLife 14 күн бұрын
I never reserve a seat while going to Milan. I just check at the seat if there’s any reservation 🤷🏻‍♂️ on the way back from Milan I do reserve a seat most of the time for the entire trip back to Zürich Even tho i only pay from Milano to chiasso with the GA.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Seat reservations are mandatory between Chiasso and Milano, so if you don't make one, you're technically traveling without valid travel documents on the italian part. If its enforced / checked thats another story.
@TravelTheCraftyLife
@TravelTheCraftyLife 14 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen I’ve never had a problem and if SBB ever does come to me because of a seat reservation, I’ll throw my sbb card at their face and tell them to put a sock on it 🤷🏻‍♂️ I get if the trains we’re always overbooked but their not. It’s a scam for sbb to make money and steal it from people. People with GA sit where they want in their classe they paid for.
@andreabartsch
@andreabartsch 10 күн бұрын
​@@Simon-AndersenThe solution is to buy the Milano to Chiasso ticket, or viceversa, on the Trenitalia app, and "free" ride with the GA on the Swiss network.
@Alahyana
@Alahyana Күн бұрын
The front of the train really look like a snake, it even has a tongue out!
@Farbfilmstudio
@Farbfilmstudio 8 күн бұрын
Great Video Just a typo at 2:12 SBB RABe 501 not 511
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 күн бұрын
Whoops
@ChaoTix.S
@ChaoTix.S 5 күн бұрын
The previous models 1st class was way superior, much more comfortable seats especially. Nice ambience and less bright. Sadly it’s getting more and more rare.
@Tayo-2010
@Tayo-2010 Күн бұрын
Sometimes kids sections even have playgrounds
@LoveLondon-ue4gg
@LoveLondon-ue4gg 15 күн бұрын
Nice one
@DS.J
@DS.J 13 күн бұрын
Good review, as usual. When can we expect you in Lithuania?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 11 күн бұрын
Not sure! I'd like to revisit at some point
@br103fan
@br103fan 14 күн бұрын
I tried the Giruno from Milan to Zürich this July in 2nd class. And honestly 2nd class isn't great in my opinion. These seats are the most uncomfortable ones of any Intercity Train I've ever taken before. Nevertheless 1st class looked very nice and the dining car I actually tried was excellent.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Shame about the 2nd class seats, they looked fine to me, but i did not really try them out! Glad you enjoyed the food :D
@marekvahle
@marekvahle 14 күн бұрын
I thought second class was very good
@albertkruger9604
@albertkruger9604 5 күн бұрын
one thing i don't really get - who enjoys the single seat over the double seats. Its so much more privacy and you dont have people running next to you all time?
@Monkey7c
@Monkey7c 11 күн бұрын
When was this taken it looks a lot colder than it is now
@TheRealFizzbin
@TheRealFizzbin 12 күн бұрын
Im not sure if it was the Giruno or another type but I traveled once with one of these sitzerland/italian trains from germany to switzerland (the train goes further to milano). The second class seats are terrible, if you a small person with short legs than everything might be ok, but not for other people. Its terrible tight.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 11 күн бұрын
I think you got a new Pendolino they are known for awful legroom in second
@johnhaynes710
@johnhaynes710 14 күн бұрын
Hi Simon, how do you show your journey on a map? Do you use a specific app or a KZbin tool? Thanks
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I make them using Google Earth Studio and then animate in After Effects.
@johnhaynes710
@johnhaynes710 13 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen thanks what do you use mac of windows?
@lukestevens8735
@lukestevens8735 15 күн бұрын
The seat pattern seems to be worn out in the second class section.
@TherconJair
@TherconJair 15 күн бұрын
The seat fabric has a bit of a velvet surface, if you run your hand over it and direct the fibre in the same direction it becomes the same colour again.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 11 күн бұрын
Did you ride the tunnel just after it opened in Sept 2024? Or is this a video from over a year ago before tunnel closed? Or did the tunnel allow trains through before the official re-opening this week? (Are are you the doctor, and you had your phone booth waiting for you in Milano and after you got off train, travelled back in time so you could post the video prior to tunnel re-opening? 🙂
@Lolwutfordawin
@Lolwutfordawin 11 күн бұрын
Only one of the two tracks was closed, so trains could still use the other one, though at far lower capacity.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 11 күн бұрын
@@Lolwutfordawin Thanks. Just realised they are 2 single track tunnels so derailment would only affect one. In my head, I was seeing 1 tunnel with 2 tracks for some reason.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 10 күн бұрын
Indeed, one bore was open, and while most trains took the trip up gottthard, a few trains like mine were still scheduled though the tunnel as explained here. 5:32 :-) I took the train in march 2024
@andreabartsch
@andreabartsch 10 күн бұрын
There are some interesting KZbin videos from SBB and from Swiss state broadcast detailed explaining the accident dynamic and the reconstruction works. If you are interested check for it. They are worth the time.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 10 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Just before watching yoru video I had just watched a news piece from Euro News annoucing the re-opening of the Gotthard Base tunnel and had been given impression it had been closed for a year, hence my rash/confused reaction while watching your video.
@headstanding_Penguin
@headstanding_Penguin 3 күн бұрын
It's one of the shittiest trains in switzerland, no space at all... Only worse is the former Cisalpino one... If you want a decent train look at the double deckers, they have space... As a swiss I want to have storage for luggage and place for people, not a fancy, rapid box with less space for luggage and people.
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 14 күн бұрын
What about a train report from Holland? It seems they are happy with their Coradia Stream. Are they better than IC3?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I'm off to Holland this week to film excatly that!
@Gert-DK
@Gert-DK 14 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Brilliant, I look forward to your report.
@mr.lionheartlionheart6132
@mr.lionheartlionheart6132 8 күн бұрын
no need to have a reservation for the seat. I`m swiss and i never ever would do that. Better save that money for a couple of beer`s on board the train.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 күн бұрын
There is because its mandatory in the section Chiasso-Milano
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 11 күн бұрын
I don't know that I would call this a "high speed train". The number of stops and use of conventional tracks just give it a feel of fast train, not "high speed". However, if the train is quiet, and the interior design is good (as it seems to be), then it is a fine train.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 10 күн бұрын
Yeah i get what youre saying, they can do 250 but it just not what its used for in reality
@danielberger1378
@danielberger1378 10 күн бұрын
Not sure what you're expecting from a high speed train, but I get your point though. One thing to consider is that Switzerland never built its network for top speed, but for creating a schedule that enables good connections at the main hubs (like Zurich or Bern). Being in such a tiny country, the topography to blast through the country at 300 km/h just isn't there.
@jfmezei
@jfmezei 9 күн бұрын
@@danielberger1378 Domestic distnces in Switzerland may not be that long, but the advent of TGV style trains has made it possible to make international train trips that can compete against flight. Fo thos, being able to go 300kmh for much of the way for longer intrenational destinations makes a big difference.
@uncipaws7643
@uncipaws7643 11 күн бұрын
I'm positively surprised that SBB CFF FFS offers WiFi at last. This has been missing in most trains so far (except ICE/railjet/Lyria into Switzerland) and that was very inconvenient for EU citizens who have to pay steep roaming fees in Switzerland (depending on their contract).
@Kijin-13
@Kijin-13 14 күн бұрын
The Beijing - Zhangjiakou Highspeed Railway in China is even deeper and Badaling Greatwall station is the deepest station with high speed trains in the world
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
No, it's not. The Gotthard Base Tunnel is literally the world's deepest and longest railway tunnel. However, it is true that China has the deepest high-speed train station in the world, but I don't see that claim about this train. ;)
@Kijin-13
@Kijin-13 7 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen got it mate
@konichiwamina1412
@konichiwamina1412 14 күн бұрын
Hope this Giruno will be included in the route Munich-Zurich. Don't love the long nose in that trains
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I don't think that is planned for now at least.
@rogerschuerch7768
@rogerschuerch7768 13 күн бұрын
That will not happen because they need tilting trains for that route. If not, travel time will be longer.
@UHarshanBlackBoy1995
@UHarshanBlackBoy1995 14 күн бұрын
Nice! Which day?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I filmed this in March 2024
@UHarshanBlackBoy1995
@UHarshanBlackBoy1995 13 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen Cool
@reheller
@reheller 14 күн бұрын
Quite interesting how Stadler developed from a streetcar repair shop to one of the leading railway manufacturers in Europe. Who would have thought this was possible after the end of SLM whose last product was the modern locomotive Re 460 - you probably already travelled in trains pulled by that locomotive or its variants in Finland (Sr2) or Norway (El18) or have at least seen them.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
The Re 460 is such a cool locomotive, i have traveled lots on them in Finland as i lived there for a bit
@LeZylox
@LeZylox 13 күн бұрын
L 1st Class
@mindexplorer6929
@mindexplorer6929 10 күн бұрын
Did you see that the seats in 2nd class are already worn? That is very embarrassing for a new train.
@Farbfilmstudio
@Farbfilmstudio 8 күн бұрын
What do you meen by embarrassing? Should a perfectly fine seat be replaced all two years? Where are you from?
@AUCUNREVE
@AUCUNREVE 7 күн бұрын
Lol what
@user-id7jj3lm7s
@user-id7jj3lm7s 9 күн бұрын
🆒
@nose10620
@nose10620 15 күн бұрын
👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
@catswolo421
@catswolo421 9 күн бұрын
Not gonna lie, but while the train looks beautiful, its shit in a practical side, because the train gets overfilled with people so easily. You are so lucky for getting a chill train 😢
@ic3t3ap3ach
@ic3t3ap3ach 4 күн бұрын
i hate this train :). The seats are not really better than 2nd class. imo one of the worse 1 classes sbb has to offer. but you have A LOT of space.
@jollyroger3941
@jollyroger3941 8 күн бұрын
Pixelate faces, it's nobody's business who sits on the train!
@PedrossPeter
@PedrossPeter 8 күн бұрын
There is no train reservation nessesary
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 күн бұрын
There is because its mandatory in the section Chiasso-Milano
@angelos251
@angelos251 15 күн бұрын
Do the seats recline?
@GerryMeyer
@GerryMeyer 15 күн бұрын
only a little
@angelos251
@angelos251 14 күн бұрын
@@GerryMeyer thanks!
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
A small bit, with the base sliding forward.
@PeterNGloor
@PeterNGloor 9 күн бұрын
why deepest?
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 күн бұрын
Because it goes through the world deepest tunnel?
@peterdowden7694
@peterdowden7694 15 күн бұрын
I think the use of different boarding heights is clever but I wonder why they don't simply raise and lower the train using the suspension airbags, this technology has existed for buses for nearly 50 years.
@haraldj.929
@haraldj.929 14 күн бұрын
The problem is the room for machines, motors, the wheels, toilets water tanks and other electrical systems, they are all mostly under the floor, and needs room, so it is todays not so easy to get the floor at the door 55cm or 22 inch high, especially for trains which goes higher than 200 km/h or 124 mph without a separate Lokomotive, nowadays you can sit everywhere, there is no Lokomotive anymore, it gives a few driven axles, they are small motors at axles, which put the power direct on the wheels of the cars, I think there are 8 of these for each train. So these more techniques under the floor, needs space, so sometimes the floor must be 76 cm or higher over the traintrack, the standard high of the platform is in Switzerland 55cm, sometimes 38 cm. In the Neverland it is 76 cm for example. But in general it becomes a lot easier since the last 3 decades to build cars especially double with the entrance at 55 cm, as in the past.
@tryangle-by-steve
@tryangle-by-steve 10 күн бұрын
What? Milano massive train Station? Coming from Zurich? You know Zurich HB (Mainstation) has 1 main hall with the main platforms, but additionally there are 3 underground station, 5 tram/bus stations interconnected and even has 4 shoulder stations. Milano in the other hand has 1 big main station and an interconnected metro/bus station and maybe 1 shoulder station. Zurich is bigger in any way; be of platforms, trains and passengers. I think between Zurich and Milan, the massive train station is the one in Zurich. 😉
@kobichief
@kobichief 15 күн бұрын
I love the Giruno, excellent Implementation of the patent Talgo. Very cozy inside because of the wide and short wagons. I hope i can take that train again soon. You mixed some things up in the beginning it is the SBB Giruno but the Stadler Smile ;-)
@markoobid2005
@markoobid2005 15 күн бұрын
It has nothing to do with Talgo at all. It's practically a high-speed version of Flirt.
@kobichief
@kobichief 15 күн бұрын
@@markoobid2005 they licensed talgo undercarriage technology.
@TherconJair
@TherconJair 15 күн бұрын
@@kobichief isn't Talgo undercarriage technology usually jacobs bogies with a single axle? Do you have any info on what exactly was licensed?
@markoobid2005
@markoobid2005 14 күн бұрын
@@kobichief Giruno has normal Jacobs bogies, not Talgo undercarriages.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
Not sure what these have to do with Talgo - But its a great train for sure :D
@TugdvjufnvivjtdgujRysthcguhhig
@TugdvjufnvivjtdgujRysthcguhhig 9 күн бұрын
Moore Edward Anderson Scott Johnson Larry
@nicolorivoir4399
@nicolorivoir4399 14 күн бұрын
The first class seats may be comfortable, but the second class ones definitely aren't. Huge downgrade from the previous new-pendinos.
@RomanMahnev-w6i
@RomanMahnev-w6i 4 күн бұрын
High speed????😂
@jamoin3829
@jamoin3829 4 күн бұрын
For us in switzerland this is high speed. Since switzerland is so small, you'll end up in another country if you go too fast😉
@787admirer1
@787admirer1 15 күн бұрын
first🤩
@Keimzelle
@Keimzelle 12 күн бұрын
"World's DEEPEST High-Speed Train" - my dude, cargo trains pulled by locomotives built in the late 1960ies use the very same tunnel.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 11 күн бұрын
So? Great thing they are making much use of this important and impressive tunnel.
@heikozysk233
@heikozysk233 8 күн бұрын
The Gotthard-Basistunnel opened in 2016. Either your 1960s loco-pulled cargo trains had a flux compensator on board or you're confusing the old Gotthardtunnel with the Gotthard-Basistunnel shown in this video.
@Keimzelle
@Keimzelle 8 күн бұрын
@@heikozysk233 This just shows you have no idea about SBB Cargo and what locomotives they are STILL using. The Re 4/4 engines are used in the modern Basistunnel.
@heikozysk233
@heikozysk233 7 күн бұрын
@@Keimzelle My apologies. The word "built" had escaped my attention.
@effeo9962
@effeo9962 8 күн бұрын
Seriously, you could have made an effort to pronounce the Italian names correctly: Chiasso and Centrale, in particular.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 6 күн бұрын
No, I don't speak Italian, and frankly, I don't care, in the same way i don't care for you to be able to pronunce my home countryes main station Københavns Hovedbanegård corrently.
@gloppa5860
@gloppa5860 14 күн бұрын
come to israel plz you wont feel the war trust me😁😁😁😁😁😁 i would just like to see an honest review of the ashkelon-herzeliya line that passes through eastern stations
@AuhoOfficial
@AuhoOfficial 14 күн бұрын
no.
@keahnig164
@keahnig164 14 күн бұрын
​@@AuhoOfficial yes.
@Simon-Andersen
@Simon-Andersen 14 күн бұрын
I don't have any plans to visit at the moment, but I do have some videos on my channel about the Jerusalem line and the IC3.
@gloppa5860
@gloppa5860 13 күн бұрын
@@Simon-Andersen ok but israeli railways best railway company trust me bro
@ZugerOcean
@ZugerOcean 13 күн бұрын
This is not a high speed train. Switzerland has no high speed trains.
@mkkm945
@mkkm945 13 күн бұрын
77 km/h avg is really poor for such a route. Definitely needs some upgrades to get it to at least 100 km/h if not more.
@HansGrob
@HansGrob 12 күн бұрын
Usually 3h 12 min. on 300 km = 96 km/h. The base line was only reopened recently. Maybe due to this diversion over the old line, longer distance and lower speed. I notice regularly slow speed as soon as Italy is entered. The Swiss part is curvy and restricted, so not much to do. Whoever rolls along the upper part of Lake of Lucerne and through the lower part of the Leventina valley, will estimate the lower speed. Who sails on a ship through Norwegian fjords does not complain about the ship not rushing by.
@jm3779
@jm3779 9 күн бұрын
There have to be keeping in mind that this is mostly because of the fact that the majority of the distance are in a high mountains region. You will see higher average speeds in flatter terrain like the distance between Milano and Venice or Basel and Frankfurt. But there is the bottleneck currently the construction work ongoing in Germany.
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