Traveling the backdoor byway to Astoria, the nation's oldest townsite west of the Rockies

[@thelastjohnwayne]

I love Grants calming voice

[@Abijah12411]

Thank you Grant, I will definitely try that when I'm back in Oregon...when I lived in Beaverton I've taken 26 often to hit Astoria after Seaside en route to visit Long Beach Wa... sometimes I'll use US-30... Since I've lived in Washington now I've come down in the 101 or I-5 to SR 4.

[@theck672]

Great story ❤ thank you 🙏

[@davidbarr8394]

Sorry. Ft Clatsop and Ft Astoria (George) do not constitute towns. The oldest incorporated town west of the Rockies is Oregon City, 1839, Portland, 1842. Astoria was essentially abandoned until the pioneers in the 1840s. Albany and Dallas are older, and Brownsville. If you consider a group of huts a town site, well, knock yourself out.The definition requires organization and platting. Silverton, 1846; Eugene 1845. On and on. When you disseminate information please get it right: viewers will pass it on.

[@allouttabubblegum1984]

I bet you're fun at parties.

[@memathews]

We should qualify the statement as "oldest American-established town west of the Rockies." There were indigenous people here in the West much earlier, with Oraibi, Arizona, claiming continuous settlement beginning in 1150. San Diego claims a founding by the Spanish in 1769, with continuous settlement up until current era. Even San Francisco was established in 1776, with Los Angeles established in 1781.

[@davidbarr8394]

An indigenous tribe does not constitute a town site, nor does "continuous settlement". And all those California sites you mention were not towns but missions. The oldest incorporated town west of the Rockies is Oregon City, 1839. Astoria and Vancouver were forts, not towns, and I would hardly consider indigenous tribes as plat designers or charters. Why don't we go back to Neanderthals so we can be politically correct.

[@memathews]

​@@davidbarr8394 Thanks for your response. I would disagree with you about indigenous residents not having a town. Even so, the San Diego mission and presidio site grew to town size in the 1820s and the Mexican government granted the status of "pueblo" in 1834, which predates the Oregon City and Astoria recognitions by an established government. The oblique ad hominem attack is unnecessary.

[@annieis300]

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[@TheCriminalViolin]

People who take Sunset to Astoria are nuts. haha. I always take 30, via Corntown Pass.

[@allouttabubblegum1984]

Traffic to there is already terrible, now the back roads will be backed up LOL.