TRAXXAS SLEDGE XL 1/7 "JACKHAMMR" vs ARRMA KRATON XL

Go long or go home. Here's a running comparison with the new M2C Racing "Jackhammr" Sledge XL kit and my custom Kraton XL "Orange Darling". Both are loaded up with aftermarket goodies and power. Orange is still running a Hobbystar 4092 1730kv with 22/50 gearing and Max6. Both are an absolute pleasure to bash. Huge thanks to M2C Racing and Fast Track Hobbies in Rocklin, CA.

[@devnull128]

Rich, every video you make costs me money and makes me jealous of your spots to run, AND I THANK YOU! Awesome stuff, as always Sir!

[@jptothetree]

Ha! Right 😆

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Happy bashing as always 🍻

[@jagergerg9771]

I love the M2C wide kit with the backflips. Those tires are incredible, light and super durable. You are one hell of an excellent driver, awesome bashing

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother 🤗. Yeah the wide kit and Backflips are a killer combo 😍. Appreciate the kind words my friend 🍻

[@3SonsRC]

Loved every second my friend. Great to see the Jackhammer vs Orange Darling.... What a collaboration 🚀🚀👍 M2Cified FTW. You and Aldo dropping bombs today. Epic sends and great memories with the bros😊 See ya round brother

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother Dennis 🤗. I was so bummed I didn't have the Perfect Pass on hand the group session, but Orange Darling ripped it up hard 😍. Steering feels so much better in the Jackhammr with the PP and voltage at 7.2. Looking forward to watching Aldo's upload 🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

[@TpPartsRcXtreme]

Thank you so much Rich for this amazing video the Hammr are a killer car, the short session i got with mine was mindblowing😊

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much dear Brother Thomas 😍. I was completely over the Sledge until this conversion. The Jackhammr is a totally different animal 👀. So stoked to have another XL in the fleet 😱🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

[@DHONGORDY95]

AWE MAN GOOD TO SEE THIS THIS WAS A AWESOME RUN TO SEE RICH LOVE THE VID

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so very much Dhon 🤗. Truly appreciate the kind words Brother 🍻

[@StevenYDG69]

Like he said above, your vids always cost me money 😂 I wish M2C would just sell whole ass cars at this point. The most epic of parts 🤙😍

[@maxspl153]

take a look at Cardinal Racing .. about the closest thing to a full custom production platform ive seen haha . although theres a comma in the price tag of the low end rollers

[@rcsmith5909]

Sick vid brother! Loving it 💪🏻🔥

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so very much Brother 🤗

[@CommanderAstigRC]

I watched this twice!! So freaking awesome session my Bro 😁. Kraton XL ( Orange Darling) dominated the 1/7 platform. Undeniably Best monster Basher but the JACKHAMMR is creeping up right behind it. Mitch and Avery pull off some wizardry trick off their sleeves with this one. Absolutely gorgeous and amazing kit to drive. The machete body looks Badass on it too. Another awesome session brother.

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so very much Brother Chris 😱!!! Orange Darling is such a reliable full speed ripper 🚀🚀. She's definitely lighter and more agile than the Jackhammr, but Jackie is undeniably fast and fun too 🥰. Mitch and Avery have become the ultimate father/son upgrade Wizards genius duo. Truly appreciate it Brother 🍻🤙🤙😎💪👊👊

[@drrcstunt]

Monster video brother Rich😉👊 as always you made a crazy run, that Sledge is really a monster, the kraton xl is no joke either💪💪 Nice video bud, good bash 😁

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so very much Brother David 🤗. The Sledge XL Jackhammr is a complete animal compared to stock 👀. The longer wheelbase is so stable at high speed. Orange Darling is still my favorite, but this new conversion is a monster no doubt 😱😎💪👊👊

[@drrcstunt]

@@richduperbash2966 wow really good, i can't wait to see more videos on this beast, my friend also has the sledge, now i convince him to convert it so haha 👊👊😁😁💪💪🚀🚀

[@BarstoneRC]

Killer rip with both the XL‘s brother. The JACKHAMMR is definitely a great handling planted car. I haven’t tried one of those perfect pass servos yet I’ll have to give it a try some point.

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother David 🤗. The Jackhammr definitely has a different feel from Orange Darling, but both are awesome 😱!!! Super planted and forgiving. The PP Monster servos have so much power and fine control. Mine have been rock solid so far. 🍻😎💪👊👊

[@chadbiermann3380]

Great rigs and awesome bashes with both!!

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Chad 🤗. Loving both of these XL rippers 🚀🚀

[@666cemetaryslut]

How many UFO sightings do you think you're responsible for?

[@lilherb3864]

All of them%

[@richduperbash2966]

LMAO 😂

[@danielkroeze8218]

Just beautiful! I keep thinking of fully beefcaking my kraton exb to a xl M2C monster. Was on the fence about the sledge xl and I think I’m staying that way. All my rigs are Arrmas , I guess I’m a little biased.As always thanks for all you do!

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Daniel 🤗. ARRMA is still my favorite basher no question 😍. So versatile, interchangeable, and loaded with aftermarket options. Definitely consider the Kraton XL beefcake M2C path. Such a fantastic handling, fast and durable option 🥰

[@rcunknown5303]

That yellow and black outcast 8s is looking sexy : ). Great times as always bro. I drove Victors kraton xl love it. Very tempting build. We got morning bashes for a while with this heat. Thanks for all the coaching you've done for us. Without you we wouldn't be sending them as high as we do! It's time to build another ramp. Going to clean up the garage this weekend and make some room so we can build the next sender!1

[@richduperbash2966]

Very sexy indeed Brother John 😂. Your custom O8s paint job looks sick!!! The XL platform is friggin awesome Bro. Perfect for getting full power to the ground and crazy controlled drifts 😍. This heat is pretty brutal no doubt 🥵. Mornings are key. Definitely stoked about building another sender. Let me know when you want to get cracking. I'm beyond grateful for our bash group Brother. So stoked we all share a passion for bashin 😍. Looking forward to the next one as always. 🍻🚀🚀😎💪👊👊

[@davidbegeotsr4025]

Excellent driving is always I bet you were excellent dirt bike rider back-in-the-day too

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much David 🤗. Miss my younger years riding MX, but love playing in the dirt just the same 😍

[@AverageRCBasher]

That’s a fine looking machine brother 👌

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother 🤗

[@B.K._BerndK.]

Wow 🤩🤩🤩 mega nice Rich 👍🏻🤜🏻🤛🏻

[@richduperbash2966]

Thank you Brother 😁

[@Epillon]

Whew, like Sophie's Choice! LoL. Gotta love M2C tho, they make some dam good stuff!

[@richduperbash2966]

Yeah Mitch and Avery are killing it with all the awesome upgrade options 😱. Really changing what's even possible within the bash scene 👀

[@jptothetree]

The Orange Darling is the apple of my eye 🤩

[@richduperbash2966]

Mine too Brother 😱. I love Orange Darling 😍

[@darksunridah]

Awesome!

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks Brother 😁

[@gratefuldabs9775]

So sick dude! I’m gonna have to build another sledge. I think I’m gonna go with a 1650kv this time. I’m having trouble with my max 6 shutting off after like 5 minutes. I think maybe it’s getting too hot but I’m only running 15/50 gears it’s not that crazy. The max 8 ran the same gears and never shut off but this max 6 doesn’t like it. I ordered a better fan that I can plug into mikes voltage regulator because I’ve got the regulator hard wired into the car. The 2200 kv with those gears just isn’t enough and it’s shutting off all the damn time. Anyways thanks for the vid dude. We’ll have to bash down at the lake one of these days I think it would be a good time hanging out with the rc goat 😄

[@richduperbash2966]

Thank you Brother 🤗. Can't wait for the water level to drop again at the lake. Miss all the open space to rip out there. You shouldn't need any voltage regulator with the Hobbywing ESC's. The 1650kv is far better suited for these heavier rigs. I'd save the 2200 for a Typhon or other buggy. 🍻

[@gratefuldabs9775]

@@richduperbash2966 yeah I think you’re right. I don’t really like this 2250 motor all that much. Appreciate it my friend looking forward to the next video. You’re the best in the business for sure

[@RallyandTrail]

Just awesome is all I have 👍😎🏁

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks so much Brother 🤗

[@rctezluh42069]

upvoted!!

[@72nivo]

Dude !!! Did I just see a 8S 1/5 outcast ?? FMD Your idea obviously 😊

[@tonylamas8682]

🌪🌪

[@Brayl129a1]

For my foam in my battery tray i use the stuff that comes with the batterys i buy i also keep the boxs to almost every rc

[@averylooper5534]

What an awesome bash! Thanks for brutally punishing the parts!!!!

[@richduperbash2966]

Thank you Brother Avery 🤗. Loving the longer Jackhammr setup!!! What a complete animal. Takes a serious beating too 🍻😎💪👊👊

[@raymondwilson9662]

You know I watch your videos on and off all the time and I was really wondering what transmitter you use it seems spot on in the control of your rides

[@richduperbash2966]

Thanks Raymond 🤗. I use almost all Tactic TTX 300 controllers and receivers. They're simple, ergonomic, responsive, and have great range and feel in the hand. 🍻

[@trinidadtobago81]

Yeah m2c makes it all possible. Might cost a bit but the saving on parts breaking are worth it

[@richduperbash2966]

I agree 100% Brother 🤗. Lots of interdependent parts on these rigs. Upgrading can save you from collateral damages and time spent on repairs too 🍻

[@FarmerFpv]

Yesterday I was playing with my Kraton 6s and my Kawasaki KX450F dirtbike on my steel FMX ramps and FMX big airbag landing ramps at 107ft apart like I always do with my dirtbike. I first did a few jumps on my dirtbike to clock the speed and i am going no more than 34mph at the top of the ramp and cleared it Then I tried my Kraton 6s at the same speed and it didn't even get halfway. I have to hit it almost full throttle to clear with my 6s Kraton. I thought cause it was lighter than my dirtbike it would go farther at the same speed. I'm so confused. I ain't that smart either so that's not surprising, lol. I wonder if the KRaton 8s will go farther than the 6s at the same speed cause it's heavier? What is your experience between the 2 when jumping? I'm afraid to jump my 8s on the FMX ramp and not make the landing and destroy it. It's all M2C'd out but i usually just hit BMX jumps with it. Do you think it will get farther or come up even shorter at the same speed as the Kraton 6s? Thanks, bro. You keep crushing it with your lit builds and airtime.

[@richduperbash2966]

This is super interesting Brother 🤗. I too did big gap jumps on my dirt bikes back in the day. It's hard to explain the jump difference going the same speeds, but mass and suspension certainly play a big role as well as forward momentum and rotational mass/wheel diameter. Dirt bikes can launch far with little run up and what seems like marginal speeds. However, the spring effect from long travel suspension coupled with a blip of throttle and large wheels might explain the distance difference between the bike and RC. The K8s would probably jump further at the same speed (then the 6s) given the extra mass and wheel diameter. It's got increased ability to maintain forward momentum, even more so with the dirt bike. Don't be afraid to test the 8s. She does great if you square up and land on all 4's. Just be mindful of her extra width and hit the FMX ramp in the center. Don't want to shave a steel ramp with Big Girl 😱🚀🚀

[@beeker9821]

Hey Rich, you said you are running the m2c shock pistons in the sledge shocks and different aluminum shock caps. Are the shock caps the m2c emulsion style ones and are they a direct fit from the Arrma 6s shocks? Also are the pistons and shock caps a direct fit for the Maxx V2? One more thing, when you put the 4s backflip tires on the 3s granite and bigrock, is all you have to do is switch the wheel hexes to the 4s ones?

[@richduperbash2966]

Hey Brother 🤗. I'm running the M2C S series (Sledge) caps and pistons. All M2C caps are emulsion style (bladderless). Don't recall if they fit the Maxx or ARRMA 6s, but think the thread is different. The shock body sizes and piston diameters are close. The 4s Backflips are too big for the Big Rock and Granite in my opinion. You could switch to 17mm hexes and fit them, but unless you swap to 4s arms, links, CVDs, and axels you're not gonna have good wheel to body clearance particularly up front when turning. I wouldn't advise going bigger than Proline MX28's with the Big Rock or Granite. You can swap for Typhon 3s hexes and axels. They're already 17mm. 🍻

[@beeker9821]

@@richduperbash2966 What kind of tires are you running on your 3s Granite and Big rock rigs? I thought they were backflips but I must be mistaken. Also, what type of shock setup do you have on the Granite and Big Rock? I am trying to dial in my 3s rigs but I am unsure how to fully do this.

[@richduperbash2966]

​​​@@beeker9821m running Proline MX28 Badlands with 17mm hex adapters. For shocks I'm still running Tekno eb48 buggy shocks on my Granite. My Big Rock is running Turnigy Trackstar truggy shocks. Unfortunately they're discontinued.

[@beeker9821]

@@richduperbash2966 Thanks for your help man it means a lot.

[@RC_Berserker]

The only things that make it still a trashas is the arms/hubs and shock bodies 😂

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

Redcat has nice bodies I gotta admit, arrma has 2 nice bodies, the outcast/infraction and the felony. Everything else is meh. Traxxas bodies all look like my sons toy cars, not my flavour.

[@richduperbash2966]

Agreed my friend 👍. Yeah I'm digging the Machete body. It fits this setup nicely and the lexan is pretty thick. Like the aero styling too. 🍻

[@Mr.Wednesday.]

@@richduperbash2966 what they need to do is look at what guys like on they’re real trucks and do so,etching similar, with maybe a more “concept”truck style. Imagine painting your F150 to match the XMAXX colour scheme? 🤣… no. Traxxas is the worst. Arrma is better, but still need to do better, especially since it’s such a simple thing to fix. They need to start getting MY approval for everything body related from now on lol

[@user-ud5xw8ox8g]

Traxxas is a mediocre at best company who likes to steal innovations while simultaneously patenting what others invented. So far, Traxxas has sued Losi, Hobbico, HPI, Redcat, ARRMA, Maclan, Skulldugery, and probably more. This bully known as Traxxas has patented designs that they not only didn't invent, but have been used for years in the industry. The worst part? While Traxxas was suing for simple things like rubber o rings, double servos, or lay down shocks, Traxxas was stealing things like complete car design by TheJang's Chimera A (including the color scheme) and relabeling it a Telluride. Traxxas is a Texas lawyer with some cheap plastic products to sell you in order to kill the market with RTR's like they did HPI. Texas TraxxASS

[@richduperbash2966]

Yeah I feel raped and somewhat blasphemous anytime buying Traxxas parts, but I agreed to help M2C test upgrades parts 😂

[@knowair6767]

Amen! I didn't know about them stealing Jang's design. Scumbags. I sure do miss Jang!! What an asset to the RC industry!

[@robcanthandlestupidy9249]

Whats parts are original on the sledge? People can't afford expensive hop ups typically it's sad stock parts can't work for more than a few runs

[@richduperbash2966]

The arms, hubs, spur gear, center braces, and diffs are stock. If Traxxas raised their game with better quality perhaps upgrading wouldn't be such a necessity. 🍻