Treefold Fugue (for string quartet) | Original Composition in F♯-Minor

[@leeruoho6343]

Just beautiful. Like a collaboration between J.S.Bach and Samuel Barber.

[@averynhiell]

@@leeruoho6343 Thank you so much! I will definitely have a look at Barber. ^^

[@masonparlier3279]

Proof of your genius. Johann would be proud.

[@averynhiell]

@@masonparlier3279 Wow, thank you so much! (=

[@BANERJEEWB]

Sublime music !

[@averynhiell]

@@BANERJEEWB Wow, this means a lot to me!

[@Farmusic-RA]

Excelente fuga!!!!! Nossa! Melancolia pura!!!!

[@averynhiell]

Muito obrigada! :D

[@mick4563]

Wow! This is so cool! This must have taken so much time! Congrats.

[@averynhiell]

Thanks a lot, I appreciate it! ^^ It has only taken a couple of weeks. Fugues lend themselves to being composed rather quickly because once the thematic material stands, it’s basically just a matter of combining it in interesting ways. I don’t mean to say it’s easy; you need to have a lot of background knowledge and practice, but it is not so time-consuming, at least not for me. (: Another factor for me is that my inspiration comes in waves, it’s pretty much beyond my control, so I need to finish the piece before the inspiration leaves me again. xD How long do you need for your pieces?

[@mick4563]

@@averynhiell Wow, that's really impressive! I haven't written a fugue perhaps because I don't have the core knowledge of counterpoint or fugue writing to write one. I usually take like about a week or so for my pieces. But during that time, I write nonstop. Then it takes months for me to actually find the discipline to write more lol. But when I do write, I write :)

[@averynhiell]

@@mick4563 Yeah, it’s similar for me, only that I usually need a bit more than a week and then after finishing it, there is only about a three week pause on average before inspiration strikes again and I start the next piece. Did you write your orchestral pieces within only a week as well?

[@mick4563]

@@averynhiell Thank you for looking at my channel and my pieces. I am honored! Yeah I have to say that it takes about a week or two for my orchestral pieces. I love that feeling when you write something and you think, "Wow...I wrote that?" It's not a masterpiece or anything; it just sounds decent to your own ears.

[@averynhiell]

@@mick4563 I often check out the channel of people who leave a comment. Many of them are even composers themselves and I find quite interesting pieces. ^^ I know the feeling: and I always wonder how I managed to compose something so coherent and decent and I fear that I will never be able to achieve anything like that again. xD Do you know that feeling as well?

[@GregHarradineComposer]

A stunning piece, Averyn. Works so well! Looking forward to hearing more of your work.

[@averynhiell]

Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! (=

[@eytonshalomsandiego]

as I was listening to the opening minute my mind immediately had an image of one of those documentaries about plants growing where they have the cameras set up over hours or days and then they kind of fast-forward it so it's still very slow . growing upward . but that was actually my second image my first image was just trees growing suggested by your title of course but yeah really felt like that sense of the trees when they bring on their leaves in the spring , in the late spring, growing up towards the sun. I planted an apricot tree years ago and I get to see that every spring

[@averynhiell]

Wonderful, thank you so much! I really like this image. The "tree" aspect in the title was mostly inspired by the branching nature of this piece (with more and more thematic material coming in), but I love to hear all the different associations that people have! :D

[@spiritualpolitics8205]

This is so lushly beautiful and incredibly intricate! I am inspired to compose something like this! (I like your partial Art of Fugue quote!) Bach would be proud.

[@averynhiell]

Wow, thank you so much! I really appreciate it. And I love inspiring others.

[@visortheinvisioner196]

Absolutely ravishing. Bravo 👏👏👏

[@averynhiell]

@@visortheinvisioner196 Thanks a lot, I appreciate it! (=

[@MeLLi-v-]

You really have outdone yourself, it is a great piece

[@averynhiell]

@@MeLLi-v- Thanks a lot, I appreciate it! (=

[@DorothyOzmaLover]

Wow, very classy and emotively stylish that enchant the senses! Many cheers!

[@averynhiell]

@@DorothyOzmaLover Thanks a lot! (=

[@cedricpicard297]

Great writing! One tiny, pedantic detail, though: if that’s your chosen tempo, the time signature should be 2/2 for the Adagio marking to work. If you want to keep it in 4/4, Andante or Moderato would be more appropriate

[@averynhiell]

Thanks a lot! ^^ I wasn’t aware there was a connection between tempo and time signature. Can you point me to a source so I can learn about it? (:

[@LeanneHolloway-cy2uo]

⁠@@averynhiellI don’t have any sources but (hopefully i’m correct) the bottom value in the time signature is important here, for example half=44 in cut time could be considered adagio or smth but quarter=88 in common time is definitely not adagio, hope this helps

[@averynhiell]

@@LeanneHolloway-cy2uo Interesting, thanks a lot! I will try and find out more about it. ^^

[@GregoryDaniels-d1n]

This is really cool and sounds amazing! It's generally better to replace jumps of 5th with 4th when you are answering a subject in the dominant. Other than that nitpick, this is great!

[@averynhiell]

@@GregoryDaniels-d1n Thank you so much! (= I’m aware of that rule. There is one exception to it, though, and Bach makes use of it at least in BWV 578: if the first three notes form the tonic triad, the fifth need not be answered tonally.

[@liszt132]

This is amazing! Such an enjoyable piece.

[@averynhiell]

@@liszt132 Thank you so much! (=

[@eytonshalomsandiego]

so why, and how can, my professional musician friends claim NOT to be good at math? this is fabulous...hope you can get it recorded by living musicians...brings me to tears, this. oh, the beauty!

[@averynhiell]

@@eytonshalomsandiego Wow, thank you so much, this means a lot to me! 🥺 Having any piece of mine recorded by actual people is a dream, I think most composers dream of it. But I won’t be able to afford that in the foreseeable future.

[@zaqareemalcolm]

can i study this fugue for writing my own fugue ? its serial and partly dice-written (but not fully twelve tone, and it seems like it probably sounds tonal though i havent checked), so im sure a lot of trad. counterpoint rules was thrown out in the baby bathwater in favor of stating rows i want to get organizing content at least right, and you have a very strong grasp on music form 🤯

[@averynhiell]

@@zaqareemalcolm Of course, be my guest! ^^ You can find free PDFs of all my fugues here: drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/10VoNbD0eKS6mfEcBSMzCIkvGSh0TqAkf Feel free to send me a KZbin link in case you upload your fugue on your channel, so I can check it out. (:

[@nicksunrise1334]

It sounds so sad in places and so wonderful! Great job!

[@averynhiell]

@@nicksunrise1334 Thank you so much, I appreciate it! ^^

[@janpolak5354]

A beautiful piece, I didn't think anyone could write so stylishly today (sometimes it's hard to distinguish it from Bach's work). You can see solid craftsmanship and adherence to the rules of conducting the topic, but not everyone succeeds in doing so. I looked through your pieces from the link and those from YT, I am impressed, especially since the fugue is also my favorite baroque form. Bravo!!!

[@averynhiell]

@@janpolak5354 Wow, thank you so much! This means a lot to me. (=

[@SocraticSwansongs]

This is fantastic! I just started trying my hand at writing counterpoint (piano) and it is such a joy! this is very inspiring! thank you

[@averynhiell]

@@SocraticSwansongs Thank you so much! I love inspiring other people. I hope you succeed in your contrapuntal endeavours. ^^

[@Han-b5o3p]

Hi Socratic!!!

[@SocraticSwansongs]

@@Han-b5o3phowdy friend!

[@JEOS]

Beautiful! 😍

[@averynhiell]

@@JEOS Thank you! ^^

[@userkhaliderramach-ka]

اضع لك قلبا ❤ بدون تفكير ... انت حقا مبدعة ❤

[@averynhiell]

شكراً لك، أقدر لك ذلك حقاً!

[@ШуточноназываемыйВладимир]

This is some impressive fugue-writing! I would have preferred a bit more harmonic variety, but given the contrapuntal fireworks you pulled, I doubt I could've done as well myself.

[@averynhiell]

@@ШуточноназываемыйВладимир Thanks a lot! (= Yeah, I neglected harmony a bit in this one. It’s not easy to have interesting and effective harmony, rhythm, structure, melody, AND counterpoint all in one piece. Some day, I might have mastered them all enough to do that, but for now, I concentrate on only a few of them at a time in one piece. (:

[@LeanneHolloway-cy2uo]

stunning piece

[@averynhiell]

Thank you so much! (=

[@BasilicoSporco]

Nice, pretty cool!

[@averynhiell]

@@BasilicoSporco Thanks a lot! (=

[@howardyu50211]

Awesome!

[@averynhiell]

@@howardyu50211 Thank you! (=

[@slendrmusic]

Nice

[@averynhiell]

Thanks! ^^

[@ReFruity]

That's very cool! Wish I could write like that

[@averynhiell]

@@ReFruity Thanks a lot! It’s a matter of practice. (:

[@kazamy32]

So cool !

[@averynhiell]

@@kazamy32 Thank you! ^^

[@lucazordancomposer1733]

Such a nice fugue! Very well done. One small thing: is it really necessary to fragment the piece so much? You divided the sections with pauses, like different movements, but it's really the same piece... it just breaks the flow! Link the sections with one another, you'll build so much more tension and the resolution will be way more satisfying :) (you mention that your inspiration is Bach... well, do what Bach does in his last counterpoint :) )

[@averynhiell]

Thank you so much! (= I think both approaches have their merits. The main reason why I chose the pauses in between the sections is because this way, the new subjects would stand out more and be more easily recognised later on. But I can definitely see the advantage of having no pauses there, I will keep it in mind for future fugues with several subjects. (: Which Bach fugue are you referring to? The last, incomplete one of the Art of the Fugue?

[@lucazordancomposer1733]

@@averynhiell Yes, that one. As you can hear, each subject is very well recognisable even without pauses. I think it may also be because he plays with each subject a lot before introducing double (or triple) counterpoint with the previous material, but I'm not sure, I would need time to analyse it properly. Studying composition, I found that way more often than not it's better to not fragment the musical ideas. But I get it's a conscious decision, so it's ok ;)

[@averynhiell]

@@lucazordancomposer1733 Ah yes, I see: there is a proper exposition for each subject, but there is no pause before them. In the Contrapunctus IX, the second subject is introduced while the other voices are still running (which works well for IX, but might not have worked for my fugue at hand). Thank you for the tip! (:

[@lucazordancomposer1733]

@@averynhiell you're welcome :)

[@andyxyz01]

Omg nice

[@averynhiell]

@@andyxyz01 Thanks a lot! (=

[@ilsospetto4608]

Nice!

[@averynhiell]

@@ilsospetto4608 Thanks! ^^

[@philipped.picard7933]

Good !

[@averynhiell]

@@philipped.picard7933 Thanks! ^^

[@sketchdoesmusic]

Get this man an orchestra already, smh

[@averynhiell]

Oh, I wish! xD (I’m not a man btw.)

[@Der_Komponist]

Guten Tag. Ich habe jetzt mal ein paar Fugen von dir angesehen und bin sehr begeistert wie gut die sind. Ich selber komponiere und teste auch selber aus, ich habe auch schon versucht eine Fuge für Orchester zuschreiben, habe sie aber noch nicht vollendet. Ich habe mich erst nicht an Fugen getraut, weil ich vor einer Fuge sehr viel Respekt habe und etwas angst hatte. Ich wollte eigentlich nur sagen wie viel Respekt ich davor habe und das ich vor einen Menschen, der so etwas schreiben kann, sehr viel Hochachtung und viel Respekt habe. Mach weiter so und viel Erfolg, ich bin schon gespannt was als nächstes kommt. Interessanter weiße schreiben viele nur Fugen für klavier, oder andere Instrumente, es kommt heute eher selten vor, dass eine Fuge für mehr Instrumente geschrieben wird. Du schreibt für mehrere Instrumente, hast du schon mal darüber nachgedacht eine Fuge für großes Orchester zu schreiben? Das würde mich wirklich interessieren wie das klingen würde. Das soll jetzt nicht heißen, dass du sowas komponieren musst, das liegt in deiner Entscheidung ob du so ein Werk schreiben möchtest, oder nicht, sehe das als Auftragsangebot an. Ich bin nur etwas neugierig gewesen wie das klingen würde. Ich wünsche dir ein schönes Wochenende und bin schon gespannt was du als nächstes komponieren wirst. :-) 🎼🎵🎶😄

[@averynhiell]

Vielen Dank, Dein Kommentar hat mich sehr gefreut! ^^ Ich plane, in der Zukunft auch Fugen für Orchester zu schreiben oder frühere Fugen von mir zu orchestrieren. Heute habe ich mit meinem Musiklehrer, der mir auch Kontrapunkt beigebracht hat, angefangen, systematisch Instrumentation zu besprechen. Es wird also sicher noch ein paar Monate dauern, bevor ich mich an ein richtiges Orchesterstück wage. Ich habe in der Vergangenheit zwar schon Stücke für größere Ensembles geschrieben, aber ohne jegliches formales Training. (:

[@rphxx6906]

Für großes Orchester gibt es bspw. die Fuge aus der 2. und der 48. Sinfonie von Alan Hovhaness (jeweils 2. Satz), einige von Bachs Fugen wurden auch für Orchester arrangiert (z.B. 542, 565, 578)

[@Der_Komponist]

@@rphxx6906 Ich kenne schon einige Fugen für Orchester, ich meinte aber eher damit dass unter den heutigen Hobbykomponisten nicht viele Orchesterfugen geschrieben werden, sondern eher für Klavier, Cembalo, Orgel, oder für kleinerer Besetzung Fugen schreiben. Ich habe ja auch extra ,,heute'' betont, weil ja heutzutage nicht viele Orchesterfugen geschrieben werden. Trotzdem danke und ich wünsche einen schönen Tag. :-)

[@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983]

yesterday I wrote a fugue for guitar but I created a theme in E then I made a variation and created a theme in F where I combined the two themes and then I created a third and final theme in D where I made a variation and finally I joined the E, F and D themes. It's not ready yet because I haven't done the resolution, but I liked it so much that I have ideas of composing a second fugue but in a minor key, I think the secret of the fugue is to do it at a slower tempo, perhaps at most an allegretto

[@averynhiell]

@@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983 Wow, I imagine writing (and playing) a fugue for solo guitar is very challenging due to the limitations of the instrument-no less a triple fugue! I would love to see the piece. Will you upload it to KZbin?

[@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983]

@@averynhiell It's really difficult, on the piano it's much simpler to make a fugue where each finger can be a melody, on the guitar the maximum I thought is a 3-voice fugue, above that it's almost impossible to play a fugue on the guitar. I don't know if I could post it, I could send it to you but as I'm an amateur musician I understand everything about sheet music but I don't know how to write so my only way of writing guitar is using tablature but with all the symbols in the sheet music, It's kind of funny to see a tablature and above it it says Allegro ma non molto and at the end a D.C apo

[@averynhiell]

@@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983 Yes, I thought so. Unfortunately, I don’t know how to read guitar tablature, so sending me your piece wouldn’t make much sense. But I wish you luck and inspiration for this composition and your future ones! (:

[@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983]

@@averynhiell yes, really its much difficult the situation, but i will continue writing my pieces, I really loved your work, composing fugues for me is not only a great composition exercise, it's funny because although it is difficult to compose a fugue, it seems to me to be a type of music that is made to be composed in a quick way

[@averynhiell]

@@paulovitorsilvadealmeida9983 Thank you! Yes, I see what you mean. It sometimes seems to me as though the fugue emerges from within itself and I’m only the medium. As though it has a will of its own. It might be due to the nature of the restrictions of counterpoint and the fugal process, which are like a channel for my inspiration. Is this how you perceive it as well? I’m curious because I have seldom spoken with other people about their experiences with writing fugues.

[@valtteripennanen4043]

This is a good piece, but I have one thing. I'd most likely use more varied dynamics besices of mezzopiano/forte, forte and niente. Otherwise, I have no other complaints.

[@averynhiell]

Thank you! (= Yeah, I see what you mean. I’m a bit restricted by the playback (e.g., I don’t like the sound of piano in this instrument library). Also, I’m very sensitive to noise, so if there is too great variation in volume throughout a piece, the really loud parts are often too loud for me-unless I turn the whole volume down, but then the really quiet sections are too quiet to hear properly. But I will consider using a greater range for the future. ^^

[@valtteripennanen4043]

@@averynhiell you know you can turn down the volume of sound in the app itself, right?

[@averynhiell]

@@valtteripennanen4043 Yes, thank you. I might have expressed myself somewhat ambiguously. If the difference between the loudest and the quietest dynamics of the piece is too great, the former are too loud for me if I turn up the master volume so that I can hear the quietest parts properly. And if I turn the master volume down so I can bear the loud parts, the quieter parts are too quiet. The problem is especially pronounced with string instruments because they are rather shrill to begin with. But I will experiment with it. (: Or do you mean I can control the loudness of the individual dynamics so that I can reduce the actual difference in volume between e.g. piano and forte? I haven’t found an option for that.

[@max_mussi]

Wilp you ever write a major scale piece?

[@averynhiell]

@@max_mussi Lol, very seldom. Here is my only fugue in major so far: kzbin.info/www/bejne/lX2bY5useL6Fqtk For some reason, I’m much more drawn to minor. But I’m definitely considering writing more pieces in major in the future.