Trek Roscoe - Hardtail News: The New 2022 Trek Roscoe Hardtail - It's Changed... A LOT!

The Trek Roscoe has been completely redesigned for 2022. Today we take a close look at what we know, and I share my initial impressions with what we find online. It's longer, lower, slacker, has room for 29x2.6, and it looks ready to party. I'm really excited about these changes. Follow along to see what I think of it at a first glance.
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[@hardtailparty]

This one would work as a podcast if you don't feel like watching. I like what trek is doing here. I have a feeling it's going to be pretty stiff, but that's what you get when you build it to take a 300lb rider.

[@mynameishaydn3287]

The internal cable routing for this frame looks to be the same solution that they use on their full suspension bikes. On the underside of the downtube they have a zip tie that runs through a clip that collects the cables and keeps them from rattling around inside the frame. It is just an open tube so it's not easy to route the cables when you change housing, but it keeps it quiet.

[@stefromfortworth]

Trek needed to release this bike about 4 years ago.

[@hardtailparty]

Agreed

[@davidh7414]

Trek didn't understand that it was possible to build a hardtail without XC geo. The previous Roscoe was an 29er XC frame called X-Caliber with a longer fork and 27+ tyres. Hence the super slack seat angle

[@r.c.r.rproductions8462]

I think you forget that trek had the stache. A 29+ and 27.5+ bike. The stache was discontinued because they introduced the Roscoe and it was so popular. But yes, I do agree.

[@seminolekilla]

@@r.c.r.rproductions8462 the Roscoe is popular cuz it is cheap. Not cuz it is great. I have one, not terrible, but not great.

[@126AP]

I just ordered a 22 Roscoe 7 and won’t be available for 6 months. Trek owes you some commission because this blog has probably sold more Roscoes then there own shop salesmen😂

[@Mikemalone7873]

9 Boost wheel sets? You better keep doing these great reviews or else you could be accused of having a problem! I really dig you taking us on your thought process in this video because we can apply it to any bike, really.

[@tamerelberry1176]

Your review has helped me decide on which bike to buy. I am a road bike cyclist for over over 5 years now and I love it. I was always interested in mountain biking but did not know much about them. I used to have a Walmart MTB probably same as everyone. It was heavy and not set up right for me. So, I decided to go ahead and buy a proper Mountain Bike. It took me about 3 months researching on kinds, styles, & brands. I found that I am interested more in Trail riding and HardTail bikes. You Tube and specially your channel was a great influence on the decision I took. I had my eye on Salsa timber jack, Giant Fathom, & Trek Roscoe. The first two brands were not available and they would take a while to get them. I have a Trek store near me so I decided to visit. I test road a Roscoe 7 and I immediately fell in love. I felt like a kid again. The specs are amazing for the price and the 29 wheels rolls smooth. The test ride was different coming from a road bike. It was like riding a Cadillac with a hint of a Corvette. smooth and comfortable but rowdy when needed. I am 5'6'' 46 years old male, the sizing chart place me in the end of small and in the middle of a medium. The sales person suggested a Medium for better stretch and not feeling cramped. I am glad I went with the medium, its better fit for me. Anyway, I just wanted to thank you for all the informative videos. Keep up the good work.

[@sickmak90]

No plans on buying a Roscoe but I’m here anyways.

[@snutty]

Good to see Trek finally taking the trail hardtail seriously. The old Roscoe was so half-arsed.

[@HShaud]

In my area of the world this and the Marlin are known as Covid bikes. Trek sold a TON of them to new cyclists-- to that end their sales are probably some of the best of all Trek's models.

[@snutty]

@@HShaud totally right, I keep seeing Marlins on Facebook marketplace, "barely used," being sold for more than the retail price. People either don't know what they're worth or are trying to profit off the unavailability. The old Roscoe wasn't actually a bad bike, it just didn't seem like Trek cared much about the genre. Especially compared to offerings from Canyon, Commencal, Nukeproof, Ragley etc.

[@sillydillydokieo]

@@snutty how do you feel about the marlins if you consider the old roscoe to be half assed?

[@snutty]

@@sillydillydokieo the Marlin isn't trying to be the same sort of bike as the Roscoe. It's perfectly fit for its purpose.

[@darlafitzpatrick8770]

Thanks for this! I am a novice female rider who didn't start until age 54 two years ago. Before that I had only owned one "mountain" bike -- a Trek 730 rigid steel job that I bought new in 1988 for around $700. It rode like a tank and I _never_ took it on trails; in fact, I didn't know anyone who rode trails back then. When I went shopping at my LBS in July 2019 I had no idea what I was looking for, but I ended up buying the 2020 Roscoe 7 women's model. It came with 27.5 mid-fat tires up through size M, which is what I ended up buying, and it's been the perfect beginner bike for me. I live very close to 100+ miles of multi-use trails, many of which are steep and very rocky. While I'm no shredder, I have learned a ton and am getting better. I was hoping to see a review of a Roscoe on your channel.

[@l00tur]

Looking forward to the review! Just wanted to give you a shoutout for helping me with the patreon service, put nearly 300 miles on the Chameleon you suggested I buy. You said aluminum but I couldn't get one in before the riding season but the LBS had a carbon 2020 model built up with better components that I scored for a few hundred more than the top trim aluminum. Very pleased and it works for me as I'm a lighter rider. Thanks again!

[@Jydmd]

I have a 2021 Roscoe with a 2 degree angled headset, but now I'm jealous, this looks way better.

[@sporkcrx]

How much of a difference did that make? I’ve been considering the same for my roscoe. Although I’m iffy about putting my stress on the front thete

[@Jydmd]

@@sporkcrx not sure how much more stress it would put on the head tube, but I like it a lot, I feel way more confident on steep descents. 2 degrees might be a bit much, but I generally like very slack bikes. The Roscoe was definitely not my first choice, but it was literally the only bike left in my size under $4000 at the time. I would have loved a Rocky Mountain Growler, but the only one left was too big for me.

[@sporkcrx]

@@Jydmd so it’s a big difference? Like in a blind test it would be totally apparent?

[@sporkcrx]

@@Jydmd thank you! I will find a way to check it out on Facebook, and thanks for the info and opinions. Shred on!

[@gcygnet8817]

It's also a lot more costly than previous year. Im happy i bought the 2021 version.

[@johnnydoe66]

That's the only thing I really don't like about my '20 Roscoe 8, the rear axle not being a boost thru-axle. Other than that it's been a fantastic bike for me since I purchased it last year in May before all the shops ran out. If and when I replace my current bike, this new Roscoe 9 will definitely be on my list, but I am not a rowdy rider, no jumps/drops anymore....."Wheels on the ground kinda guy" at 54 yrs old and way too many past injuries and 6 concussions. I do ride technical trails with difficult rock climbs and descents and love the 27+, glad Trek at least put a 2.6 on the new iteration. I had to add, I have never ever had a quick release fail in 30+ yrs of mtb riding, but I agree that upgrading the older Roscoe wheelset is limited. Hope Pro4 hubs are the best option from what I have seen

[@RideYearRound]

The more I ride 2.6, the more I agree with you on it as a tire size. It's not quite big enough to have the float and feel of a real plus tire, but it's not light or narrow enough to ride like a 2.4. I'm glad it's there because I hope the industry is always experimenting with new things...I'd just rather just go up to a 2.8 or 3.0 in most cases.

[@mellissanash7517]

I've read that WTB Vigilante 2.6 measures out to 2.7 on i33 rims, that would be interesting to see how it compares to 2.6 and 2.8 tires.

[@gcygnet8817]

Im still having good fun on the 2021 roscoe 8 after 3000kms mtbiking and commuting. Not sure if i would upgrade to the new 2022. I couldnt care less about upgrading wheels and I never have issues with the quick release regarding the qr in the back. It's good to see the roscoe is updated for those who want to upgrade wheels. Pricewise they've upped it a lot, roscoe 8 2021 was 1699,- euro, roscoe 8 now 2199,- euros. With the rear axle and bottom bracket the main different....?(excluding frame geo and the shock range on the rockshox gold 120 vs 140mm). That's definitely not worth 500 euro's more over the 2021 version imo. Thanks for reviewing, i enjoy your videos! Hope to see some nice riding vids of you again.

[@tomerg2]

Congrats on 40k subs!

[@hardtailparty]

Thanks Tomer!

[@stylusmtb1762]

I’ve got an older on one 45650b yea it has a quick release but I go anywhere and everywhere with that bike no issues

[@nreamer]

I work part time at a Trek dealer. We sell a ton (at least we did when we could get them) of entry level Marlins. Just like you, no Trek hardtail excited me personally. The high end XC stuff is awesome, but that is not for me. I took one look at this bike (Roscoe 9) and sent in a paper form to purchase my first Trek bike through their EP program. Too bad I will not see it until 4/23..... :-(. I think Trek markets to the masses and the the high end markets. I think the fact that those are the only bikes somewhat readily available at this point in time bears this out. Bikes in the middle seem to exist just to fill out the line. They also missed the boat entirely on the Adventure bike wave. The 920 was a good bike, but never promoted because the Stache based 1120 was their look good darling. It was full of parts that if you broke in the middle of nowhere, you were screwed, so serious adventure riders shied away from it. Now they have put wide tires and a nice paint job on a 520 and are calling it good. I love steel, but no thanks. I got a Salsa Fargo. Don't even get me started on the Checkpoint / Domane clones... They do have some really good stuff, but you have to be careful. Roscoe 6 is an excellent case in point. Customer service is awesome, the customer is number one. As part of our training, we are told to try to encourage them to get a bike they will still love 6 months down the road, and I think that is great. So, for me, whenever they become available, I will start my conversation with the Roscoe 7 and go up from there.

[@baddriversofcolga]

The 7 really does seem like the value proposition (for a Trek anyway). I thought the weight difference would be more, but like you said go with a better fork and you're pretty much set. Glad to see no SX parts here.

[@ericm5707]

Thanks for the video. I have a 2020 Roscoe 8 and it has been really great. It’s 120mm, setup tubeless. As mentioned the only thing I wish it had was a through axel on the back… haven’t ran into issues and I ride pretty darn hard. Hope it stays that way!

[@William.N]

Thanks for taking us along for the mental ride!

[@Marc28031984]

Seeing how much bought the Roscoe in the past months, I would say, good for them. 🤙🏼 A long needed update

[@winning702]

The Trek Roscoe was my first MTB and ignited a fire for biking I didn’t even know was there. I gained skills and developed the fundamentals but as I progressed, the 141 rear held me back. I was limited in upgrades and the QR would loosen out big drops or harsh landings. I’m glad they’ve finally went modern. I can’t say I’m not interested as there will be always be a special place in my heart for the Roscoe, my first love.

[@austindean4035]

Really happy to hear your thoughts on this. Can't wait to see your review!

[@GHinWI]

The wider (2.6”) tires is a regional thing I think. Here in WI, where Trek are designed, we have a TON of sand traps on our trails and 2.2-2.4 tires are mad scary on that stuff. Pretty sure they do the XT derailleur because that’s what’s visible to customers on the showroom floor. It’s hard to see the marking on the shifter-even more with the cassette. Sad, but this is what moves bikes. Also, I bet the SLX vs XT or NX vs GX derailleurs are hardly any difference in cost.

[@sgazzz]

Such great info for free!! I need to get back into biking shape after a 20 year hiatus on my also 20 year old stumpjumper xc before taking the plunge on a new bike, but when I do, I'm 100% going to try a hardtail first and use your consulting service!

[@Galactico42]

You touched on some some stuff with the fork and rider weight. I'd love to see a whole video about shopping for bikes as a bigger rider. I'm about 210 and want to load my bike for bikepacking, but it's not clear to me what I should be looking for in components (wheels especially) to still be able to ride hard safely.

[@hardtailparty]

Great video idea, thanks for the suggestion.

[@glengrigsby4858]

😊 Thanks for this review. I have been researching for about the last year to determine which trail hardtail I wanted to get. It came down to the Marin San Quentin 2 and the Trek Roscoe 7. I ended up with the Roscoe 7 mainly because of seeing your thought process in this video and the other reason being that my local Trek store had them in stock and I could demo them. I could not find a San Quentin 2 anywhere to demo. My Roscoe had a few changes due to the parts shortage, I ended up with Praxis CADET M24 | DM1X -OEM Crank, chain ring and bottom bracket in place of the Shimano parts, and the rims are e*Thirteen LG1 Enduro rims instead on the Bontrager Line TLR 30. I am a new Mountain Biker at 54 so for now I do not see the Rockshox Recon RL fork holding me back. I have so much to learn. I am thinking I will upgrade to a Pike at some point. I am also thinking up getting a higher engagement rear hub at some point. Again thanks for the very detailed look at the 2022/23 Trek Roscoe bikes.

[@jeremie9833]

thanks a lot, so much help from your channel to choose my next bike ! cheers from france, keep up the great work legend!

[@LuisEspaillat1]

Awesome thorough digest!! Had the 2020 Roscoe and as you've mentioned it was really lacking on that playful aggressiveness. I was not versed in bike talk/geo at the time when I purchased it so this is a great video for everyone who is finding themselves in the same situation. Not sure how it handled Mountain Creek with a QR!

[@cjohnson3836]

That's really interesting. So, specialized did something similar with their most recent update on the diverge gravel, going from a very antiquated geo and tire clearance to something very modern, even ahead of some boutique brands. With Trek doing the same thing here on their Roscoe, is this going to be a one off modernization or will we see a bit of a philosophical change in the big brands wrt how they approach updates? Up till now, they've been ridiculously conservative.

[@supergreg72]

I’m not a hard tail rider and yet this was very informative and spot on! We’ll done ✅

[@shakingsticksatthings6628]

That speckled paint job reminds me of the first hardtail I ever bought, way back in the mid 90's.. also a trek.. I loved that bike

[@CaptainShiny5000]

I currently only own a Gravelbike (Trek Checkpoint SL) and I'm actually in the market for a good MTB to start out with. For me it has to be distinctly different from my Checkpoint and if I got an XC Bike that would be way to close to what my Checkpoint can already do. A fully would be too maintenance intensive for my taste, so, a hardtail trailbike with big shoes it is. I looked at the old Roscoe before and that weird, pretty much proprietary "Boost"141 killed it for me. This one on the other hand (The Roscoe 7) is pretty much EXACTLY what I was looking for. Time to start saving, so that I can hopefully afford one next year.

[@oklahotb3217]

Roscoe 6 is still going to be on the old frame and probably will be until they run out of frames lol

[@WasabiWei]

People wanting to run a rack on the rear better snap those up. I like the do-everything old Roscoe. Nothing against the new frame, but it should be a Stache and the old role is a valid market imo. The old Roscoe frame is on point for most riders most of the time - I can haul 60 lbs. of groceries on it without the bike getting weird and still feel good on trails in Wisconsin. The new frame looks great for a new purpose but it saddens me to see a void appearing in the market. "Mountian bikes" are relevant to city streets and flat states for general use and the "cheap" Roscoe filled that niche very well. The lack of rack mounts disturbs me.

[@matlizee6321]

@@WasabiWei what a weird take

[@davidh7414]

@@WasabiWei There are 500 million billion other hardtails out there with steep head angles and kick stands.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

@@WasabiWei Get a Tetrarack if you need them so badly? Or a secondary city bike? Or a big messenger backpack? Or rent a cargo bike? Plenty of ways to get your groceries home.

[@painteater19]

I run 29" x 2.6 front and rear with cushcore on my rootdown and it is 👌👌👌. I am a little heavier at 190, though. Awesome video. If this bike was out a year or two ago I'd be on one now.

[@ds1755]

I totally agree with you on your style of critiquing a bike & building it up the way you want with as little or as much parts as you want, as you stated though,”it has to make sense”. So with that said I’d choose the Roscoe 7 too, great platform to build on & could be easily built up to the performance of the Roscoe 9. I like your choice of fork too, a lot of adjustments to the rider, do you think a Marzoochi would be too much fork for the Roscoe platform? In addition even though this review/breakdown was done on the computer I feel it was spot on from the little bit of dabbling I’ve personally done on Trek. Thanks for this video

[@revpitty001]

Just sold my 2021 Roscoe 7, was looking to change to a Giant Fathom specifically for 29’s and a a bigger fork, looks like a 2022 Roscoe 7 will be in my garage shortly

[@noelwarner8874]

So much good information! It’s like you do this for a living! (He does. I’m a patron because I always want there to be a next video)

[@BryanMoreno_]

I was looking at the roscoe 7. Mostly because of price range and seems like a good upgrade to my marlin 6

[@CasperRc81]

The paint job near the ht with the speckles reminds me in the 90’s when I was a kid during Easter. In that it looks like the small speckled whopper candy shaped into an egg😂. Great review.

[@velophile5790]

Loving the paint on the Roscoe 9. Tempted to sell my 2016 Fuse Comp6 and pick up one of those bad boys!

[@chadjmartin]

Great video AS ALWAYS!!!

[@iffy_too4289]

6:18 I got 2 pot Deore 6100 brakes on my Merida 140 I got 2 months ago. I upgraded the front to 6120 4 piston Deore and kept the original 6100 mc/lever. I find it now has better fine control and balances better with the rear but at the same time now has longer lever travel. At some point I will be upgrading to an XT mc/lever so i can adjust bite point to keep it all even. One thing no one needs is 4 piston on the rear (unless your a DH rider maybe).

[@andreasm2882]

I walked into my trek dealer today to order the Roscoe 7 but I wouldn't see it until November next year but they had an 8 coming in January so I opted for that one. I am sure I will be happy 😊.

[@Rob801]

Same as Joe S... Not buying a Roscoe but watch with interest anyway. I learn something every time I watch one of your videos :). Two things in this one... First, the fork being so important (I kind of knew, but hadn't thought about it in specific terms). A few weeks ago I actually cancelled my MC AL V2 order in favour of the CrMo, mostly cause I hadn't noticed the upgrade in fork and brakes (and a couple other things) on the CrMo build compared to the AL. When I asked about getting the CrMo build on the AL it turned out to only be a hundred bucks cheaper than the CrMo so I just went for the CrMo. The other thing is internally routed cables (possibly) rattling. I would have never thought of that and yeah, I think that would drive me nuts.

[@tomalleeson4573]

Almost bought a Roscoe last year. After your review, I'm glad I didn't. I'm considering this one... the 9 Thank you.

[@slofax1251]

Great video as always! Thanks Steve

[@clovergrass9439]

Excellent review, learned a lot overall, thanks!

[@humminfummins9120]

Watched this video Then I went and bought a 23’ roscoe7 in black and the bike awesome great review👍🏻

[@luisd7706]

I STARTED.WITH THE ROSCOE 6 BACK IN 2018, IM UP TO CANYON SPECTRAL TODAY BUT ILL DEF BUY.2022.ROSCOE.

[@lonohst]

As an owner of the original Roscoe and a guy that's wrecked those stock rear hubs these are all welcomed changes but long overdue.

[@josiaboy]

having internal cable guides means that the cable housing doesn't actually go through the frame, the cables are held taut suspended within the frame so they won't be knocking around inside the tubes. of course the hydraulic line for the rear brake will still be in there though

[@wreckingopossum]

Fantastic review by the way! Extremely insightful.

[@peterthelarge5110]

Best Mtb channel out there, tnx

[@adventure_biker]

Thank you so much for this video. I was planning to buy the Roscoe 9 but I simply hate the color so much . After watching your video I understand that I can buy the Roscoe 7 mate black and upgraded the fork ect.. and get a very decent bike for less . So it's done now , I bought my Roscoe 7 2023 and I'm super excited to upgraded few parts for make this bike awesome . Cheers 🍻

[@Tribal260]

really nice video

[@wst3968]

I'm glad that I didn't buy the 2021 roscoe 8 when I had a chance. I didn't like the geo or the rear hub. This new version looks pretty good, but I'll stick with my Growler 40.

[@hallstewart]

In defence of QR… did you ever have a skewer snap or wheel fall out fall out because I never did. Any noticeable flex was the tyre and frame. What bolt through improves is impact strength at the dropout and low weight because it combines axle and clamp

[@hardtailparty]

Ive been on MANY rides where other people were on roscoes and their wheels came out or shifted in the dropouts.

[@munga1302]

Finally trek update the geometry and specs, the old roscoe look like more a XC bike than a trail one, this new bike will be a good option in the future

[@davidh7414]

Old one WAS an XC bike. An X-caliber frame with longer fork and fat wheels

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Always have liked Trek from the macro bike brands. I had someone (who might know) tell me that the Roscoe may come back in a 29+ version after they axed the 29+ Stache. Looks like not the case (at least not yet). Agree with you on the boost standard. I have a non boost 2015 Stache I wanted to refresh, but not worth building a new wheelset, and off the shelf options are about gone.

[@andrelafond7474]

Great video! I had a Roscoe as my first real mtb when I started riding in 2018! Speaking of hardtail news, bird bikes just released the new forge today and it looks like a ton of fun, you might want to check it out, also cool colors.

[@HShaud]

Great first look, Steve. Not the biggest fan of trek but interesting bikes from big brands are appealing because you can get them all around the world. Great boutique bikes like the Spot or Yeti ARC are high on my list but just dont represent value in Australia. Im currently running a '21 Torrent S1 and agree with your review. It is a fun bike but it is a slow bike when not pointed downhill. Im sold on hardtails but looking for the perfect one now, i will say though my Torrent is one of the sexiest!

[@ahwayzcool4630]

Ah man. I just bought my first mountain bike last week. 2021 roscoe 8. Hope i didn't make a mistake. I'm new to this mountain bike stuff. Last time I rode a bike was back in the 80's as a teen.

[@hardtailparty]

It'll be a great first mountain bike.

[@marksandoval5361]

Too bad Trek didn't build this bike with clearance for at least 2.8 tires and with i35 rims. That would make it a "modern" Plus capable Stache.

[@boobs7736]

Trek fanboy here, I've owned several Trek bikes and whatever tire size comes stock on the bike, I've always been able to go up at least one size. If it comes with 2.6, you can get a 2.8 on there. My rail came with 2.6 and I'm running 29x3 on front and rear. I had the old Roscoe with 27.5x2.8 and 27.5x3 would fit easily.

[@onetorino]

Although the latter is not a hard tail- would be interested to hear your analysis on the new roscoe 9 vs. the new 2022 top fuel 7/8

[@persistentconsistency]

I keep thinking this bike might work for me and I can upgrade components as I break stuff. Then, I look at the spec sheet and am reminded of the 28h wheels and my 210-225 lb weight. Just not a good idea. A 32 mm Recon and 28h wheel set just tells me I'm gonna end up with new wheels and a fork rather quickly, so I may as well get the frame I want and build up, as usual lol. I still wanna ride one when they come in stock, though!

[@johnster187]

Agree 100%, buy the Roscoe 7 and upgrade the fork...... And that's what my wife is doing for her new bike......she just hasn't picked a fork yet to upgrade to.

[@RoyBramlowe]

Longer the seat tube the better for all us lanky people. I have a 39 inch inseam. They are all too small. Love what you do sir oh and congrats on 40k subs

[@hardtailparty]

What length dropper do you run?

[@s.neuhaus1512]

My current bike is a 2020 X-Caliber 9 (I considered to buy a Roscoe 8 but I didn't). In the meantime I notice I'm more a trail biker then a XC rider. I've decide to buy a trail bike and I'm very interested in the new Roscoe (frame). In the Europe the new Roscoe is available in beautiful red too. I'm consider to upgrade all SLX parts to XT by the local LBS, so I pay only a upgrade price.

[@HarminGarmon]

I have the 2019 Roscoe 8 already. Not ready to buy anything yet. I like the bike so far. I understand that replacing the fork would be a nice upgrade especially for my size. I am 6'5 270. I have the xxl version. I know the current fork is RockShox Judy Silver TK, Solo Air spring, rebound adjust, TurnKey hydraulic lockout, tapered steerer, G2 Geometry w/51 mm offset, Boost110, 120 mm travel (13.5: 100 mm travel). I saw a youtube video of a rockshock pike 140mm as a replacement. Didn't know what offset the shock had on it. Looking for recommendations.

[@billw_mtb5333]

This bike is very interesting as a second bike.The Roscoe 8 might be the one I’d go for as it does come with treks 108poe hub and I am okay with the 35gold fork. It only it had sliding dropouts…

[@letsgo_inc]

My goodness bikes were expensive before but now it is crazy. At the time I bought my 2020 Fuse right before covid, the top trim was right around $2000. It had a Fox 34, dropper and I think GX. My Fuse Comp was under $1700 and was not even the lowest trim. Now you need to put up $1700 for the entry level Roscoe and the top trim is a $2700 bike? Wild...

[@Chris-de2qc]

Covid prices :(

[@nnukmann]

Need more vids like this, very helpful

[@LuisGonzalez-nx2pn]

Hi Steve, I'm a new subscriber to your channel, I heard about you listening one of the B1ker Bar podcast, awesome video and channel, like the way you explain things for new riders to understand. I will love to see something similar to this video for the Canyon Stoic HT, or if you have the opportunity to review one riding it even better. Stoked with your channel, excellent content 🤘😎

[@hardtailparty]

Thanks for subscribing, i appreciate it. Robert is a good dude.

[@LuisGonzalez-nx2pn]

@@hardtailparty I'm binge watching your videos, love the content, you've had open my eyes to the HT world. I ride a long travel FS trail bike and I'm thinking to buy a HT to spice things up 🤘😎 I live in FL so I don't need all that travel right now, I do go and ride up North where you find real mountains every now and then and can keep the FS for those trips 😉👍

[@goldenknight4310]

So cool that this bike is getting so more attention. However you gave me a different perspective on it. I have a 2020 Roscoe 7 ( my first real MTB btw ) but I mainly use my’s as a cross country bike( I go really long distances ) , commuter (I’d installed a real rack ), and hopefully soon as a bikepacker. I love the fat 2.8 tires so I can ride on almost anything( including sand and snow ). I don’t think it was intended for this kind of stuff but does pretty well. However I don’t understand the problem with the rear axle can someone elaborate on that.

[@greensleeves8095]

Finally. Tried the 2020 Roscoe and I absolutely hated it. It felt like an XC bike with fat tires. I was coming from the 2020 fathom too.

[@chadjmartin]

Just a note: Trek is still selling the 2021 models of the Roscoe 6, 7, & 8 and still show up on their website. The new “2022” models you’re reviewing are noted as such with a “2022” badge. 👌🏼

[@hardtailparty]

Yes, just remember that the 2022 Roscoe 6 is the old gen

[@182britania]

Be alright if you could get your hands on one,waited 8 months for the 2020 and couldn't get anything in m/l 2021,ive finally given up with trek,estimated delivery dates now May to August 2022 ,i cant wait any longer im buying a giant.

[@arielbaringholtz3139]

thanks for the info,thats essential! you say you cant fit a 150 dropper on the medium large, doesnt it say that this frame size comes already stocked with a 150 mm dropper?

[@brokenbros559]

The should have put the shermeno hub a long time ago for the 2020 Trek Roscoe 7

[@hyunjoonkim]

I called my Trek dealer and they said the 2022 Roscoe won’t be available until March 2023. Time to look for another bike.

[@Chris-de2qc]

2023???

[@thebibleprojectmtb]

@@Chris-de2qc 2022. Got one on order arriving in April. 👍👍

[@BraMKJ]

Great review, nice to finally see Trek join the fun hardtail bandwagon. The Roscoe 7 looks interesting, but I would probably go for an Orbea Laufey H10 for around the same price. The Z2 on the H10 would probably be really good for most entry to intermediate level riders. That way they can save a few bucks and put those towards tyres that are suited to their area's trails (if necessary ofcourse) or towards upgrading the rider contact points.

[@hardtailparty]

While i haven't ridden this bike yet, the orbea was pretty underwhelming. I didn't love that bike.

[@BraMKJ]

@@hardtailparty yeah, I can imagine the Laufey being way too harsh for Sedona. I live in the Netherlands however, no rocks or gnarly terain, just the occasional root patch and a lot of mud. It’s a great bike for our tracks. I’m really curious how the Roscoe will hold up when you get the opportunity to take one for a spin. For what I can see on the photo’s the tubing looks quite square, so hopefully the material allows for a bit of flex in the rear triangle.

[@Dark__Thoughts]

Finally they got rid of the QR in the frame, or rather update the frame in general, as they were basically just really outdated, overforked XC frames with support for bigger tires. That, combined with Trek's high price point, is the main reason why I usually recommend to go for other bikes. Too bad they kept the old one for the cheapest model. Looks like they compensated on the XL model though, instead for going for a bigger built frame they went with lengthening the cranks. I feel that does not work out that well as it does not change the reach and increases the likelihood of pedal strikes, as the bb height stays the same (as it should). Great heat tube angle though, that's definitely in the right spot at 65 degrees to please all kinds of riders. Price point is still kinda mad, but I guess that's just the market right now. Kinda glad I started my built in 2020 - I kinda feel this will be the case even in 2022.

[@wildman9364]

interesting I was thinking about getting this before is was a chameleon but being I already have a 2018 roscoe. only thing I am not liking is 29er wheels I still think 27.5 plus with a 2.8 or 3.0 is the way to go for hardtail! Cheers!

[@juansanchez-tr1dq]

Now if they could do similar updates to the Stache and bring it back I'd consider one. But I have a feeling this bike is both a Roscoe and Stache replacement rolled into one.

[@hardtailparty]

Wait till you see the custom bike I'm designing. You're going to love it.

[@juansanchez-tr1dq]

@@hardtailparty I am curious now, can't wait!

[@Slicksly2012]

Great video, I'm a new fan!

[@ryanmfitz]

def got a roscoe 7 on order, like the black though. sweet spot for the price

[@gunny6517]

GREAT Review, thanks!!!!

[@kukri52231]

Honest question from a new rider. So many talk about these huge differences in bike feel and performance based such small changes in geometry. I don't really get it. Yesterday I test rode a specialized fuse in both small and medium. 420 vs 440 reach, less than an inch. I couldn't tell the difference. I guess I'm just not as experienced but when people talk about feeling a world of a difference over 20 mil, I can't help but feel like it's overblown. Now I have paralysis by analysis on which size to get because people go crazy over getting the perfect size. Any thoughts?

[@hardtailparty]

After you've been riding for a few years you'll start to notice the differences a lot more. Did you ride those on a trail, or in a parking lot?

[@oklahotb3217]

I've only been riding for three years and change. Prior to mid 2019, I only had experience on two different bikes. I too looked at some of the claims with a skeptical eye, like is this just some Princess and the Pea deal going on. In the past two years, I've added and subtracted 7 more bikes to the stable, all different from one another. Chromoly steel, carbon, aluminum frames, older geometry, progressive geometry, Bikes from 69 to 65 degree head tube angles. Yes, there can be quite a noticeable difference, but you won't know, can't know, until you've ridden different bikes and have something to compare experiences to. I also had paralysis by analysis when picking my first bike. Soooo much info out there, so many standards, etc it is easy to get overwhelmed. If you have the opportunity to test ride bikes, do it. If you know folks with bikes your sized, see if they'll let you try them. Barring all of that, pick the one that feels the best and is a good choice for where you are going to do the majority of riding and the type of riding you are looking to do and get out there. That truly is the only way you find out.

[@coltengreen8477]

I want to upgrade my recon silver on my Roscoe 7, a fox 36 is a bit expensive and I'd have to re shaft it to make a 140mm. Would you think a z1 would be a good fit? Or do you think a pike or lyrik would be a better middle ground?

[@davidh7414]

16:36 My 2021 Norco Fluid HT1 cannot be beat for noisy rattly internal cabling. There is no way of securing the cable at either end due to the frame design at the BB and no grommets at the head end. The 3 internal cables perpetually rattle and clunk. Weirdly, the Fluid FS model has grommets at both ends.

[@iffy_too4289]

I call Rosco 7 and upgrade brakes immediately and forks to Z2 or Z1 when you find them in decent condition used.

[@CaptainShiny5000]

Alright, just preordered a Roscoe 7. And the Bikeshop was kind enough to agree to order two in different sizes so that I can test ride both of them and take one home. I'm 1.80m with an 84cm inseam length so both M/L and L might fit. I'm tending towards M/L cause my local trails have some tight corners but since I have no idea how the geometry works for me I'd rather try both.

[@hardtailparty]

That sounds like a killer bike shop! I think a L is the ticket for you. I'm on a m/l and it's a bit too compact for me at 5'6".

[@CaptainShiny5000]

@@hardtailparty Alright! Thanks for the headsup! I'm open for either - but the L might indeed be more familiar since I'm used to the long reach of my Gravelbike already and I will consider your input as well.

[@hardtailparty]

@@CaptainShiny5000 these ride totally different from a gravel bike. It'll be interesting to see which you choose.

[@feebsnz]

You might have just sold me on a Roscoe 7. Following from New Zealand.

[@karlosxzy]

Nice vid. New Roscoe looks fun.

[@mr.steebs5070]

Great review, I'm the "ragley/shmagley guy! ( i still want a rag) Anyway, a few minutes ago I ordered the Roscoe 8, will have in April. I had the Xcal9 on order but changed it. Why are they putting those QR on the rear? Skinny skewers, no thanks!

[@hardtailparty]

The new 2022 roscoe 8 doesn't have the small we skewers anymore. Trek does it to save money. Pretty low blow to consumers.

[@RobL1223]

I was ready to purchase a 2021 Giant Fathom 29 1, then trek dropped their 2022 line. Do you know when the 2022 Roscoe 7 will be available?

[@izakmadrid8939]

I preordered the 7, gonna be a jump up from my cannondale trail 7!

[@Silverhaze78]

With an XT shifter being only like 20$ more than the SLX (on ebay) its odd that they chose that for the top of the line model.

[@hardtailparty]

Sadly, 99% of buyers won't notice that it's got an slx shifter

[@davidh7414]

Really agree with Steves point on this. Its a dumb old-skool idea to put a cheap shifter with expensive derailleur. I have an XT shifter with my Deore derailleur. Its excellent shifting done right.

[@xylopagus]

@@davidh7414 I like to describe it as a "touch and feel" type thing. I touch the grips, shifters, seat, and pedals on every ride, so those are what truly matter to me. I have the latest gen deore 12 speed deore setup and it shifts so well. All I have to do is swap to an XT shifter from ebay for a real upgrade that I'll feel every ride as opposed to a derailleur that I'll never notice except for the logo when I wash the bike.

[@dpugh39]

Off topic but have you reviewed the planet x hello dave? Thanks

[@mulenine9867]

Hey great stuff as always. By the way there are still many people who ride rigid forks. Maybe you can incorporate which bikes you can use them. Thanks

[@hardtailparty]

Rigid forks don't work well for my terrain, so i have to wait till I'm in a smooth area for rigid fork reviews.

[@mulenine9867]

@@hardtailparty Sounds good but I was also wondering which bikes I can use them on. The 140 mm front ends are probably too big big thanks again for your reply

[@jarrilaurila]

Im a sucker and bought Roscoe 6 last summer... maybe i practice some basic stuff with it few months and dont even concider upgrade the fork or tyres? Then i buy new bike with more agressive geo and not some budget parts.