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[@user-rj9ui3sz8u]

Im curious and think we all could learn a lot about sizing if you tested a medium Roscoe too.

[@sz1341]

Medium Roscoe frame please

[@99cobra2881]

Absolutely get the medium.

[@rider65]

Really? You'll know more about sizing when someone ELSE rides a bike! 🙄🤣🤢🤮

[@Fun_Health_MTB]

I have the medium, and love it, and I think it makes a world of difference vs the M/L...455mm to 440mm reach. I would really like to see what you think about medium - try it.

[@wanderlust...H]

​@Fun_Health_MTB I'm 511. I ride the Trek Marlin 5 3rd gen in a large size. Is that the correct size for me? I'm pretty comfortable while riding it though.

[@ortega9115]

I would love to see a medium roscoe, but for next week do the banshee! Hardtail party foreverrr

[@mushijoe]

Just finished building a Paradox v3 and loooooove that frame

[@ortega9115]

@@mushijoe nice, due to my budget tho i have a stock roscoe 7. Upgrades soon though, first thing is the brakes as i am 240 pounds and the little ol 2 pots are not liking downhills lmao

[@tbroadbridge2k23]

As a Roscoe owner I think you should for sure see what a medium frame is like

[@Jose-sy1je]

What Roscoe do you own?

[@DaftProxy]

A medium roscoe comparison would be incredible, I like your theory and would love to see if it holds up testing a shorter frame with identical geo

[@raulhurtado3247]

Wishing to see you trying and reviewing Canyon Stoic

[@kz1000guy1]

I'm 5'10" on the medium/large. Seems to work good for me. It would be good to see the test again in the medium. I'd like to see the compliance comparison with other hardtails.

[@ozzyontherocks]

Had a 2020 Roscoe 8 for 3 years and loved it. Never stopped me from riding any kind of terrain. I have now moved on from hardtails and picking up an ebike next week 🤙

[@Ivan-ek2cu]

yes of course, you should try the M size because it would give us an idea of how changing sizes changes the characteristics and the feel

[@mondonalex]

I love this series, can we expect to see a Canyon Stoic on the list? It's phenomenal.

[@GokkunGuru]

Hardtail Party review the Stoic and didn’t like it. But that’s just him.

[@Brosef336]

@@GokkunGuruHardtail Party is very picky with his hard tails. I remember when I was considering buying a Commencal Meta HT and found his video completely bashing on the bike. I still bought the bike and I love it!

[@Natethegreat2020]

YES please get a stoic!

[@frotto]

​@@Brosef336that happens when you have access to a wide variety of titanium and steel bikes from boutique brands (and that cost over 4,000 bucks)

[@jordanoliveto5863]

@@Brosef336he loved the Roscoe 9 lol

[@RABmbls]

I love these episode of hardtail quest! I bet this is the most in-demand by subscribers. 😊

[@buddy7136]

I'm 5'8" and chose the medium frame for my Roscoe 9. I changed the stem for a slightly longer one (35mm i believe) because the reach felt short when out of the saddle. I don't have experience across multiple bikes but I love my roscoe. I don't regret sizing down.

[@topspot4834]

You're probably thinking of 35mm (vs 31.8) which is the stem diameter and doesn't add length to your reach. It's probably in the 50-70mm range. And size medium at 5'8 sounds perfect with today's geometry. A large would be pretty big, but it depends on your proportions ... Like I'm 5'8 too but you might have longer arms, or maybe I have shorter legs. I ride a medium Mach 6 but my friend has a large Firebird and it felt gigantic.

[@bryanmiller5692]

@@topspot4834the stem comes 35mm long not handle bar width

[@buddy7136]

@topspot4834 you're spot on. I measured both stems the original and the one I replaced with. Original is 45mm. The new one is 60mm with a little rise to it. By Trek's size chart medium tops out at 5' 9" and medium/large starts at 5'8" putting me between the sizes.

[@robbwilliams7885]

Def gotta give the Roscoe another try with the medium frame.

[@coreybeck7148]

I am slightly taller then 5 foot 8 inches and went with a medium. Interested to see what your score is on the medium frame.

[@yoshi_wrld4892]

Repent of sin and Trust in Jesus! John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Matthew 7:13-23 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. -

[@kylelongstaff]

@@coreybeck7148 I'm 5'11-6ft on a good day and I need a medium roscoe... My friend has a large and it just kills my wrists and neck from reaching so much. But then again its really made for standing up and descending. I was doing cross country with it and i almost died. If i tested it on DH runs maybe I would have different opinion.

[@dakhemyst]

Agreed. I have a Roscoe, and it's one of the best riding hard tails I've ridden to date.

[@keosoutdooradventures]

Loving the series! Interested in seeing the Paradox vs RSD!

[@zeedroid2267]

Good idea getting the M and re doing the test. I agree with the size comparison making the bike feel " Too long". I think this sizing may be for shorter torso longer arms. Or something like that. I have a feeling the M will be completely different.

[@ponchochon]

I was waiting for this video, I’m so excited! And I love to see Matty active mentioned in the video !

[@thosis7230]

Loving this series!! Please keep it going!

[@LandoBlank]

I’d love to see another video with a medium frame, i’m in the middle of a large and love my Roscoe 7. Proper sizing matters!

[@michaelrieser9928]

How long did you live with the xr4 tires. If you changed them, what are you running now or what would you try?

[@marie7826]

I'd love to see your insight on the M Roscoe! Half heart looking into it and hopefully this will help me with deciding!

[@michaelrieser9928]

The 8 is a great value. Just needs alittle better fork over time. Same with the 7. Needs better brakes on this one to. You could change the frame in time and use these parts. You can try every size in the store, that is valuable. Tires are great if you have a ski lift. Flat stuff 2.6 tires are work to pedal. I’m getting some muscle tone though. Maxxis dissector 2.4 that’s my two cents

[@iyo93]

Get it. I have the 9 and it’s the best bike i’ve ever had. Prefer it more than a full sus! Just because it’s so much fun

[@wernerschodts8839]

Loving this series !! I bought a Rosco 9 L !! It drives great, I love it

[@XavierPech-oz7gc]

Awesome video! That black frame looks great with the Pike and the eewings

[@jackmast6983]

I think the roscoe deserves a redo in the medium, a lot of the areas it lost points were when you mentioned it being too long

[@mellissanash7517]

I think the stiffness can be counteracted with the wider 2.6 tires that come with the bike from the factory. I see them all the time with the massive 2.6 and even 2.8 up front, which looks like it can roll over everything. But, I could be totally off. Canfield would be neat to review next.

[@ziadabdul-nour5135]

The 29x2.6 definitely makes a huge difference. The Roscoe will also fit 29x3.0 on 36mm inner width rims

[@Fun_Health_MTB]

I really like your point, I have only ridden my Roscoe with the stock 2.6 tires. Living in AZ, trails are full of cobble and chunk and it rolls over everything.

[@terryjones7778]

Thanks for the testing I'm in the middle of buying a new hardtail at the moment and this id really helping me narrow them down ..

[@lightningshredder5605]

Hey Alan what a great quest you are on thanks for bringing us along! My take on size and compliance is that with longer reach you weight the front more and thus the rear less. Thats why you struggle with control in the chunk and get bucked around and the hands get to take the hits instead of the legs like normal. You should try a -1 degree angle headset!

[@gravelben]

A thought on your observations of sizing vs compliance - the different riding position of a longer or shorter bike may cause you to load the front more or less, meaning you shouldn't necessarily keep the same fork pressure etc across different bikes. It sounded like you kept the same fork settings, but adjusting pressure to give the same sag % on each bike might be a fairer comparison than keeping the same pressure. Interesting to see the comparison and how you find each bike anyway!

[@stursby]

I own a Paradox and love it. Hope you review that one next!

[@baum479]

Man, these vids are fire❤️‍🔥 I'd love to see you testing the Commencal Meta HT

[@TerraVFX]

i upgraded my trek roscoe 2021 with a 130mm 51mm rockshox pike and its ready for a possible mullet conversion, its by far my fav bike

[@geoves]

11:36 Whos still waiting on the size medium test, 7 months later?

[@TeroOhranen]

The most awaited video of the week! 🙌 Here in Finland I see *a lot* of Treks, but I’ve never had a thing for them. Anyway, I think the Medium Roscoe would be apples to apples.

[@NeuronMTB]

Itekki Suomesta ja oon samaa mieltä

[@michaelrieser9928]

Yes the geo numbers would be so close that there would be no amazing ride difference. I think the bike has a lot of good reviews. I think it just doesn’t jive with him.

[@ripapa6355]

Before buying my last bike, it came down to the Roscoe and the Orbea Laufey. I got the Laufey (better frame IMO). Absolute beauty of a bike. It likes to go fast, super responsive in the corners and loves to charge through chunk. Climbs well, up until it gets pretty steep, then the front tire just levitates off the ground. I use it alot at the downhill park and it's awesome! It loves to go downhill, over drops, blasts through rock gardens like a champ. It's my aggressive enduro hardtail ;)

[@bburnsey]

I have a Roscoe 8, 2023. I'm 6'2, 225 lbs. I had been riding an XL hardtail, and really thought that would be the correct size. Sales person suggested a large. I was hesitant, but I took out the large and rode it around for a bit. I bought the large. Fabulous bike, I ride a mix of cross country and trail and couldn't be happier. Trek has held the price at $1999 since early spring. After shopping many bikes, the Roscoe was easily the best value and component build.

[@nickbrinckerhoff6320]

Evan the hardtail series is top notch my man! (even though i currently dont own one! I gotta fuel ex gen 6) From a Motocross racer and fellow Eli Tomac fan, keep kicking ass!

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Tomac is coming back!! Thanks Nick!

[@Earcher66]

I hope you do the canyon stoic, Canyon’s internal/external hybrid routing makes swapping parts a breeze!

[@Jose-sy1je]

I'm looking for a bike and am willing to go a little beyond 1k if I can get something good. Do you have any recommendation?

[@glen3509]

I'm still riding a Trek 4300 I bought back in 2007. I put M770 and M772 Shimano XT components, Thomson Elite stem and post, and a Chris King headset🤘🤘

[@andrewcoyle4593]

I appreciate your input and videos. TY!

[@Natethegreat2020]

I was EXTREMELY surprised with your ratings, but its all about what you like. I’m 5”10ish and with a large Roscoe 7 and It feels perfect! I haven’t tried any other brands because they haven’t stood out any. I’m on my 2nd Trek Hardtail and I’m loving it! I look forward to supporting you till the end. Have a great day Evan!

[@noahhall1270]

lol

[@evanl889]

The Roscoe is garbage. People only buy it because they are trek.

[@Gremlinalizacja]

You should try GT Zaskar LT, great bike with very unique rear triangle design 😃

[@dylanholshouser9969]

Definitely try the medium. I would love to see how it compares.

[@ignatiusrobinson]

im about 5'9 and i ride an older roscoe in size large. the older version had 27.5" tires and 20mm less travel, but i do think it is a bit too large for me. I think you should definitely try a medium to give the roscoe a fair shot

[@theschwartzart5317]

I have a roscoe and at 6'3 I fell between the L and XL. I went smaller and did not regret it. Go for that true medium, I want to see the comparison between that m/l and the m.

[@Channel-io1di]

I'm 6'2" and I got the XL and don't regret it either. The reach is a little long but it feels good climbing. I prolly would have gotten the L if they had it in the same color. But ya, either will work ok.

[@Jose-sy1je]

What Roscoe do you have and what's the difference between the Roscoes?

[@felixgenest2367]

Any roscoe owner here 🖐️? (Bonus point if you have the matte black frame)

[@High-Sided-Media-productions]

👏👋👋

[@janickschenkjespersen]

🤝👋👏

[@owendanielson2609]

No, the teal roscoe 7 is the best

[@WheelieMedia]

Me It was my first real mtb and it is awesome I still ride it sometimes

[@ortega9115]

I have the teal and rainbow

[@IamR3D88]

My vote is for medium as well! Seems you really liked it besides it being a bit large for you, maybe that will help

[@Lars3]

Oh yeah you're testing a Paradox! I can't wait to see that one. Such a cool bike

[@lastnamefirstname7652]

Definitely test the Roscoe in a medium size frame. It would be very interesting to what difference , if any, you would feel.

[@the_mtbrider]

loving this series, I'll vote for the RSD Middle Child to try next. I hope you will also try GT Zaskar LT.

[@Tman2022]

I would be really interested in seeing another review with a medium frame, just to see how much sizing impacts the score. I ride a trek roscoe 7 and I love it, but everyone's different! Would be interesting to know if the fit was the problem, or if the geometry is contributing to the problems you faced.

[@joshdesj]

Those are all 3 great options for future tests… looking forward to seeing it!

[@Lyzarr]

I would be very interested in a test of the Roscoe in medium size to see if your hunch is correct. Also a test of the Marin Team Marin would be very interesting. It should have a very good comliance and fits wonderfully into the previous selection.

[@marcstolk6682]

that frame would break on the 1st jump. Wrong bike for this test IMHO.

[@mcndjxlefnd]

@@marcstolk6682 I'm curious what makes you say that. Not that I agree/disagree.

[@marcstolk6682]

@@mcndjxlefnd not for what's designed for. It's a downcountry XC bike. They have a history of cracking at the seat stays as it is... sure, they've updated the frame with a gusset but that's to stop it cracking under a Cat 3 riding conditions. Sending it like a "Trail" HT is asking for brakage.. and I like the Team Marin.

[@nhguapo]

I think you should definitely compare apples to apples. Try the medium Roscoe! Next week I'd like to see the Middle Child.

[@tomandhistruck]

Test a medium. I'm 5'11" and the L has been super smooth for me. It is a great "All'rounder" - I would never accuse this bike at being great at most things other than being a little better than "just okay" at everything. Definitely fun to ride as a beginner.

[@mendyviola]

I have it’s predecessor, a 2001 Trek 9600. In this day and age it’s considered more of a gravel bike than a mountain bike. I got it new back in the day and still love it. It has never failed on me after 20+ years of hard use. Haven’t had to replace any parts, just general maintenance.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

I have a 2007 Trek Madone road bike. It's just like your Trek, never replaced even one part. That's back when trek was still made in USA. Their new stuff is questionable IMO

[@_SAUBER_]

I have a Roscoe 7 but in XL. I was most surprised by the chunk rating because it feels REALLY smooth on the roscoe compared to my old specialized and Diamondback.

[@JohnC686]

I agree. I have a Roscoe 9 and it is really smooth (for a hardtail) as long as I guide the bike where I want it vs fighting with it.

[@liamhemmings9387]

Medium large means you have a medium size frame but it still comes with a 29" wheel for most brands

[@eugene44569]

On the roscoe everything is 29x2.5 so not relevant here

[@MB-jz3uu]

I think the great thing about this series versus something like hardtail party is that you keep everything fair by taking it down to the frame and comparing only the frame. Hardtailparty will sometimes build up frames sometimes ride complete bikes and it's hard for comparison if you're a new buyer looking for a bike.

[@coreyganoom7689]

I am 5'9 and ride a medium Roscoe 9. I felt the M/L was too big and after hitting trails, I am happy with the size I picked. I think testing a Medium is a great idea.

[@ThunderStruckMTB]

The Santa Cruz Chameleon is patiently waiting to join the chat...

[@kingofleon8800]

You should redo the test with a right sized frame.

[@michiganstate149]

There is no "right sized" frame

[@g9stuff953]

Definetly wanna see this again with the medium roscoe 👍

[@unphasemc]

I've got the Roscoe 8 in a large and it's the best hardtail I've ever ridden. I'd love to see you ride the medium

[@brianferrell7554]

Love the concept of your series. Before buying another expensive frame though, honestly I bet it will feel way better all around if you re-run your test with the tire and suspension recommendations from Trek's website (2.6" or so tires, 20 psi). That should greatly improve most of your issues on the singletrack (compliance, rock garden, front wheel chatter, cornering, "feeling like a goon"). Honestly, with the cushcore and thinner tires in your setup vs the 2.6" stock/20 psi, it should ride and feel way better at 16 - 18 psi and maybe you can save the $750 cost of another frame !

[@justingibson8788]

Ive owned my roscoe 9 for a year, and even after demoing slash 9.7s and turbo levos, i still pefer the feel of my roscoe 9. I run cush core and 20/18 psi and it feels so good with the 2.5 tires i have on it. i also put 35 mm riser bars that help with the stack

[@colbybirrell]

I would love to see the medium Roscoe tested as well, keeps it fair, and would put the size/compliance theory to the test too.

[@petedog9581]

Run a Pike Select 150 w 3 volume spacers. It stopped deflecting and stiffened up. Still ran the same air pressure as with the stock 1 spacer.

[@rcobsesssed]

Great series, thanks!

[@mtbboy1993]

5:36 The stock chain stay protector seems to be same hard, stiff plastic as older bikes, so it will move, scratch the chain stay. It will also be very noisy. Which cane be heard at 10:10. An inner tube will make it better, but the best solution is VHS 2.0 protector.

[@quinnlee9759]

I had a 2019 M/L Roscoe 7, I personally really liked (as a 13 y/o). The dropper was really nice and had no problems, internal routing for cables was very nice. I used it for 2 years 1/2 years with minimal issues overall. A good bike to learn on but I wish it wasn’t a 27.5+ bike. Overall a good bike for 1200 at the time, but could have gotten more for the money

[@spyder027]

I have a Roscoe 6 but I upgraded it to above a 7 I put $1.5k into it but I just cracked the frame last month. Im getting a new one on warranty but its delayed. I’ve had a lot of issues with my dropper maybe the 7 has a better one

[@philm457]

It would definitely be interesting to see how it compares in a medium, particularly given the trend for longer, lower, slacker.

[@drouleau]

I have a Roscoe 9 (size medium - I'm 5'7" on a good day) with just over 500 miles on it and average skills - swapped out the dropper post with a OneUp (which turns out to be a piece of junk unless you love to listen to constant creaking), Raceface carbon bars (I think I cut them down to 740mm), XT shifter, seat, dropper post lever, grips, pedals and just changed the stock tires to Continental Argotal/Kryptotal. I had an Enve stem on there, but swapped the stock stem back. The good is that it's a fun bike to ride, and can handle the terrain here in Tucson, AZ well enough (I just posted up a short vid of the trail park across the street from me to get a basic idea). It descends well, and the 2.6" tires give an adequate amount of cushion. It feels a bit vague going fast through single track (especially when having to change direction quick), but it's not a cross country bike. Not a "fast" bike by any means, but it's fun. It is pretty harsh on rougher terrain (it is a hardtail after all), but I don't really have any other hardtails to compare it to. I wouldn't want to run it on less than 2.6" tires, but it has made me want to get a full suspension bike again. I feel like I'd get more grip in the relatively flat/loose turns here and better turn-in with less tire, but it does roll over the endless amount of rock/loose rock pretty well (and the 29" wheels help a lot). The stock tires are ok but not my favorite - the Conti's seem to be a step up (they at least roll noticeably faster, oddly enough, even though they're meatier and heavier), but I've only ridden them once so need more time. Not a bad bike for the price, but if I had to do it all over again I'd get a Trek Fuel EX Gen 6. Changing out the stock bar to a carbon bar did help a lot in the comfort/vibration.

[@jondachs4064]

Yep, try the medium - has 440 reach which you like on the Nukeproof so maybe that’s your number. I have a medium Roscoe 9 and so far it’s my favorite bike I’ve ever had - looking forward to your Paradox review cuz that was my other choice but test rides are difficult for that one.

[@Natethegreat2020]

I’ve been waiting for this for my entire life!!!

[@CodyMTB_]

Evan, this series is seriously one of the most interesting series I’ve found…. Seriously it’s pretty awesome and I appreciate it. I’m a hard core Hard tail guy mainly due to finances but I really do enjoy it. I’m very surprised on the feed back each bike has after each test. I would love to see a Rocky Mountain Growler test. I’m very curious to see what you and other people think of it, I’m extremely happy with it. Anyways thx for all the awesome content, i really appreciate it, thank you.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks Cody! I love the feedback. And good news, I have a Rocky MTN Growler in my possession. I will be testing it in episode 5

[@yoshi_wrld4892]

Repent of sin and Trust in Jesus! John 14:6 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. Matthew 7:13-23 13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14 Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. 15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. -

[@wingman12r]

I was going to recommend the Canfield Yelli Screamy. Glad to see it in the outro. I too came from BMX. Dirt jumping then to ABA racing. The Canfield is the most BMX feeling MTB I've ridden. Goes up well, easy to the the front end up for those manuals, nimble in the corners and comes alive on the down hills. It wants to to be an active rider and push it.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Good ol ABA! Haha. Thanks for the insights. I really like the build and the tubing shape of it. Stands out from the rest. Now you make me excited to try it

[@Felix-mr1vs]

Yessir please do the comparison with an M sized one. Many of us are regularly in between sizes and it's not easy to pick the right one in those cases. Would be very interested to see how much impact size has on your perception of it. I only ever got the chance to compare sizes properly back 2 back with YT Jeffsy's and Izzo's at their store in Germany. Size made a HUGE change there. Oh and regarding the next reviews - looks like you have a great selection at hand! Have you considered including the Banshee Enigma (maybe as a mullet)? Apart from the chunk I think that one could suit your flowy bike park alike terrain really well.Tough to compare a mullet/27.5er with only 29ers though...

[@adamhazutubez]

I ride a M/L 2022 Roscoe 8, I'm just under 6'0 @ 5'11. I really like my Roscoe- it's just a fun-ass bike to ride. That said, I relate to the sensation of it feeling 'big', as well as that the bars feel a bit wide - i may shorten mine. Lots of people complain about the bars on the internet as well as IRL when I've offered to let people test ride it on trails. I think the larger wheels are what makes it feel so different, but i have a longer torso and shorter legs. Now that I've adapted to it i like it, but i pick different lines that i did when i was on my Marlin because i think it's general agility is lower than the Marlin's, or other 27.5 bikes. The trade off (imo) is that the tires do SO MUCH MORE. It eats obstacles like rocks and roots so well that you dont need to pick careful lines, which makes for a very carefree ride. The low scores are understandable since you're a very advanced rider and i think this bike is kind of built for newer to intermediate riders like me. I hate to admit you might be right about compliance - I still have the stock 35 Gold RL fork, and i feel that it handles everything, but i do have to be mindful of the tuning to not bottom it out. I woud love to see you try the medium (I think Matty Active also rides a medium of this bike) and also on some rockier or sandier trail. I've ridden the R8 in Michigan and Wyoming and it did so well with rocky terrain. Love your reviews! Can't wait to try out a Ragley.

[@iCycle086]

I’m 5’8” and rock a medium roscoe 8. I love that bike.

[@pwn3d_d1rt]

Definitely need to retest... Love my Roscoe.... Although I don't ride my hardtail much anymore but my wife still rips it

[@danne941]

Give it another shot with the right sized frame! Thanks for the content.

[@pierceskidmore9806]

Loved seeing the old BMX in you at the start of your ride. I just got a redline and started at my local track. You should make a video integrating bmx racing skills into MTB!

[@kaedeschulz5422]

I feel like on your seated climb the slack seat tube was the problem moving the seat further back. Also sometimes geo numbers aren't correct. My Octane one sour boost said to have for example a HTA of 65 which was right and a reach of 460mm which wasn't right. it's a fair bunch longer. Also the STA was way steeper than in the geo chart which i really like. Now with a 160mm fork VS the basically a 20% sagged 150mm ( they use a 120mm fork to measure the geo on this one) it now has the said 460mm reach. In my case it's great that the bike is longer than on the sheet. Bike feels perfect now with the 160mm.

[@smokeydog2560]

100% the yeti to try next. The editing and the quality just astound me every episode. Just is getting better

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Thanks Smokey! The Yeti Arc is definitely on my radar, but I plan on doing that for season 3: carbon & ti

[@oliverleibbrandt8067]

i have a 2017 scott scale alloy that comes stock with 100mm of travel and tbh it can do anything definitely needs different wheels but rides smooth up and down and over most terrain

[@marquesjohnson1069]

I'm 5'10" on a M/L Roscoe 9 and sometimes I feel cramped...I'd love to see how the two compare. Great series, keep it coming!

[@johnnyrocket1320]

I agree. I ended up going with a 60mm stem and it transformed the feel . I would experiment with more stem

[@andywmoffat]

I feel similar, feels like my ass is hanging off the back of the seat?? I've pushed my seat back to help.

[@marquesjohnson1069]

​@johnnyrocket1320 I'll have to look into that, thanks for the suggestion.

[@marquesjohnson1069]

​@@andywmoffat same here, I moved the seat back and it helped a little. Either way it's a fun ride.

[@pauls3616]

I have always been interested in Canfield bikes so I would love to see the Yelli Screamy. Thanks for the videos. Demo days are few where I live and most companies don’t bother bringing hardtails.

[@capeljov2666]

I hawe the roscoe 8... i am 187 and it took Large, and it fits me perfect. With 2.6 bontrager tires and low psi it is kinda compliant.

[@coreybeck7148]

Lets get that medium frame! Thanks for the content!

[@BrianAlfordDrummer72]

I made the mistake of getting a 2023 Roscoe 7 in medium large. Rode it for about 2 weeks and swapped it out for the medium. So glad I did! Bike feels great and better fitted to me. PLEASE try a medium frame!!!

[@epd1584]

How tall are you? I am 5'9" in the same boat? THANKS

[@BrianAlfordDrummer72]

@@epd1584I’m the same night as you. I feel more comfortable riding the medium frame.

[@julianw5692]

I know you said you should stick to medium soze but i think a better way to do it is based on the manufacturer recommended. It's important that they suggest the right size and that should be consodered in the score imo.

[@duckey599]

i have a roscoe 6 2021 size (M) i love it althou when i bought it it came with horrible fork from suntour but after some part replacements it is my favorite bike

[@jeffperillo1]

I too would love to see how sizing affects your enjoyment of the bike. I ride a M (17.5) Trek Stache, but when I went to buy a Fuel Ex the M felt so short and I was talked into a M/L (18.5) size. Sometimes it feels big but I think it’s just because my Stache is smaller and I ride it a lot. Interested in your testing both sizes!

[@ThisGuyRides]

I'm a bit over 5'10" with M/L Trek Fuel EX, and it feels a bit big for me. Looking forward to you testing a Medium to see if I should have picked M.

[@helidude3502]

Recently purchased a Rei coop drt 1.1 small. It was ok on pavement except for the cheap forks. Off road was horrible. But I didn’t buy it for me to ride. I also purchased another sized medium. I can actually ride the thing off road and enjoy it, even with the cheap fork. So for an apples to apples comparison, even one step in sizing can make a world of difference. While not the ultimate bike, I think with a couple tweaks it will be an enjoyable all around kind of bike. I did order a Judy fork similar to my drt 1.3

[@jamesrohner3792]

Yes do the medium frame. Put it back in level field and you can further test your theory about so of this geometry on the same bike just different size.

[@330_Crew]

Trek is the Toyota of bike brands. Just like no one wakes up in the morning excited to drive a Camry, no one wakes up in the morning excited and jazzed to be riding a Trek. But like Toyota, Trek is just a solid brand that is good enough for the majority. It’s also a “safe” choice for newer riders.

[@EvansMTBSaga]

Haha I love Toyotas! But I agree with what you're saying

[@sethrich5998]

Pretty sure the 4Runner/Landcruiser/Tacoma people will disagree with you on not being excited. lol

[@rishi-qt2dz]

Need to try a medium Roscoe!! All great bikes coming up!! RSD Middle child is my vote.

[@madmikemtb105]

Great job! Super fun videos to watch. Definitely love hard tail bikes.

[@LondonActorsNet]

MEDIUM here in the UK unless you're like a die hard fan we can only really get hold of Specialized, Giant, Trek, Carrera, Voodoo, Triban & Boardman... Yeh Mostly Carrera & Boardmans, Never knew Nukeproof did bikes despite buying their stem and Handle bars and Accessories

[@No_ReGretzky99]

I just got a trek Roscoe 8 for 600 bucks I found it but my buddy who's a bike mechanic with 20 plus years experience came with me and said it's one of the best deals he's ever seen amazing bike🎉🎉❤❤

[@ortega9115]

You could reasonably put riser bars on, like oneup makes some good aluminum risers.

[@ThunderrSeal]

love the series apreciate it