Trekyards EP270 - Theurgy Class (Multi-Vector Dreadnought)

[@jasondiend4248]

A person put thought and care into this ship. This is the type of person that deserves to work on shows.

[@braderickson9996]

Now, this is a thought-out ship. The level of detail involved here, the class name details, the details of the fighters alone is impressive. I was never a fan of the whole multi-vector thing but, he actually makes sense of it. Fighters in the Trek universe are a tricky thing.

[@KnowTrentTimoy]

Agreed. A great ship indeed. I still don't understand having fighters in the Star Trek universe. They're useless in an actual battle with large enemy starships. It's a one-way mission if you ever thought of signing up for this duty (no thanks). Roundabout ships are a little different but even after a few minor encounters with powerful enemy starships you were a goner.

[@EZ-D-FIANT]

It makes absolutely no sense at all, I could go in to it but I made a comment that summarises above look for that, this concept is retarded at best FFS it's so stupid it's laughable and you said it was well though out 🤣😂🤣 I challenge any part you think is well though through, tell me here and I'll explain just how stupid and obviously flawed it is and I bet I do it easily 🤣🤣

[@inexister7371]

I would be SO on board if this is what the new Star Trek show was about!!!

[@captainastro5270]

Sorry to disappoint buddy…

[@jonnybridin]

Omg, this ship NEEDS to be in STO. I would soo purchase it.

[@AdamFaulknerVideos]

I actually really love the idea of Thea. Having the almost sentient ship was a really fun idea in Andromeda, and could create some really interesting ideas in a Star Trek series.

[@VergilArcanis]

the Ship in its combined form looks so good.

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

"Thea"!!! I LOVE it!!! Instead of saying "computer" all the time you actually have "somebody" to talk to and address on a more personal level like Cortana from Halo or Romie from Andromeda. I really really wish this was available in STO.

[@WalterDWormack214]

Oh yeah, sure! Just what *Star Trek Online "really needs"!* Another *effing LOCKBOX SUPERSHIP!* Don't the friggin' WHITE GUYS who 'populate' STO, already have enough exclusively WHITES ONLY STO SWAG, ALREADY?

[@jonathanobrien-os9xq]

Great show guys,I'm 47,and have been a fan of Star trek for 43 years,and always loved the ship designs,I used to draw my own upgraded enterprises,funny thing some of my childhood designs actually came close to the iterations of the 1701 many years later.im really enjoying your detailed information about these ships,makes me feel young again!

[@RMS148]

This ship needs a second or even a third episode. A review by the Captain and the Commander with an interview with the designers. Thanks! :)

[@ryanholden3522]

Chesty McStudmuffin That's quite rude wording dude. Be grateful they make the content for you to enjoy.

[@isfj1009]

It's gorgeous and has punch! Love the bridge look!

[@daniel_gallardo808]

Absolutely love the detail and story of this ship. Really wouldn't mind having a TV show with this being the hero ship.

[@MrPingn]

I remember stumbling across this ship some time ago. The art and design was great. The detail blew me away. I was glad to see you guys covered it.

[@Sportimus]

That was a great intro of the different Enterprises. Great video too

[@michaelbressette2599]

That Ablative Armour is substantial ! this is a very impressive vessel

[@Jack_Stafford]

This is by far the best quad engined ship when it comes to proportion and design integration of the engines. Better than Prometheus and better than stargazer; it's done in a much more elegant and organic manner. Very often four engines seem crowded but on this ship they are beautifully spaced and look very natural. Absolutely beautiful ship and the animations are _absolutely stunning_!!! I also loved the bonus pics of the interior, which are rare treat. Great episode guys; you never fail to keep providing top-notch content!

[@Tar-Numendil]

I love that you guys acknowledge and talk about fan ship designs.

[@valuesubtracted]

It's a bit of a supership, but I think this is an incredibly well thought-out take on the Odyssey platform. I daresay it's better thought-out than the Prometheus ever was.

[@808INFantry11X]

Well to be fair I think the Prometheus was well thought for it's time and capability

[@jesse33cdn]

So wish they would have used this ship for a new show set post nemesis. Thank you guys! 😊

[@craigharvey-gurr337]

I’m planning on creating a Star Trek show set in the 25th century post Star Trek Online, I think? So it’s kinda post Nemesis. And yes, I would love to see a Star Trek Show set after Nemesis.

[@aquariandawn4750]

@@craigharvey-gurr337 how's it coming along?

[@straycat1674]

Coming back to this video God knows how many years later. It’s amazing how there’s almost nothing on KZbin about this ship

[@ryanholden3522]

This episode was absolutely fantastic and this ship, the story behind it and the detail is astonishing. I would love to see more of this, this is Star Trek that I love. And the external website, WOW! So much detail, such care and attention. Bravo to the creator! Great new title sequence as well!

[@saquist]

An impressive amount of information for the ship and several trek unique ideas.

[@ETRTriad]

I'm so happy I've found this channel, love it... great work and thank you.

[@mattmon6118]

I really like the shiny metalic look of it.

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

Matt Mon the best machines look good in chrome.

[@GenJackOneill]

Thats one hell of an impressive ship

[@Howlrunner82]

From all the Dreadnoughts...this is my favourite..except the Andromeda style AI

[@eparhas9162]

The new Star Trek Series should be about this ship. So many potentially amazing plot points.

[@craigharvey-gurr337]

E Parhas It should be the next Star Trek show after Discovery.

[@mesner5x]

I'd like to see the next one with the new Odyssey class Enterprise F. And possibly with this ship making appearances and eventually getting a spinoff. I think it's time to bring the next enterprise to the screen.

[@SheyeGuy963]

I can imagine a lot of stories taking place on this ship. It'd be a lot of fun to be a part of it sometime.

[@straycat1674]

This has to be my favorite ship. I would love to see this on the big or small screen as a new Enterprise.

[@alancarter3142]

the fighters design are top notch

[@bibloks]

Nice that a shipyard is always the same no matter the ship it it builds. :)

[@impacking]

I love it.

[@MegaFletcherb]

My Favorite Ship. Also love the Story and writers from U.S.S. Theurgy Lore. SO much detail in everything they do. I also think this should be made into a new show.

[@clffliese26]

That is one, cool ship. I agree with an earlier comment that this ship needs another episode or three. Great work.

[@GeorgeNoX]

this ship looks amazing, would love to have it in STO if somehow this design would end up there as we need a new multi-vector ship for some time now

[@danielbatdorf3873]

That's a fantastic ship. I've thought about what an Odyssey based STO era dreadnought would be like for some time now, but my vision was more along the lines of the Galaxy X, i.e. saucer sep (not multi-vector assault mode), two of the phaser lance cannons instead of one (one branching on to the saucer from each neck), and a phase shifting cloak, yet mine would still have four engine nacelles. Anyways, the Theurgy's a very well thought out, detailed design that I agree would make an awesome hero ship, my props to the designer!

[@bowder36]

Would love to see this in a TV series

[@EviLEwoK666]

wow....that is one impressive ship...I would love to see that in STO

[@wolfwithin2967]

James Morris me too but it would be OP, although that hasn't stopped them before. I want one in game for sure

[@flybeep1661]

Most badass ship in Trek lore I've ever seen (yes even counting USS Vengeance).

[@SumDumGy]

That's not saying much.

[@nikolasa.larson6901]

Pretty fascinating episode , fellas. Love the look of that lowest section !

[@joshua_william_maminski]

If This Was Added To Star Trek Online Everyone Will Go Nuts

[@stp069]

That's a very impressive design. It is something I would love to use in Star Trek Online 😀

[@Stronghand-yw1lk]

The creator of this vessel needs to get paid for it's design. I would totally fly this bad boy in STO.

[@chrislawson2269]

Awesome ship, love the multi-vector design

[@11nolaboi]

Im in love with this ship!!

[@rextrek]

I could def see that Post VOYAGER ....nice job guys!

[@Ty-yt3lj]

my exact ship taste. 4 big nacelles, an enterprise E esque hull and an amazing profile.

[@kraft5724]

Wow, the saucer section reminds me of a "White Star" ship from Babylon 5:).

[@TalesOfWar]

The front on profile reminds me of Mercury Class Battlestar with that wide tapering edge.

[@Jack_Stafford]

Right off the bat, and I'm sorry if I'm late to comment, but the opening animation with the different iterations of the Enterprise in drydock is a _fantastic_ introduction to this video series. Great job as always!

[@power543]

Dale Stafford thanks! But this video series has been going since 2015 I believe with 4 other specials :D

[@vladdracula5851]

I love it I want it lol give us a new show with this ship

[@aquariandawn4750]

Give her to Data and let him design her A.I

[@mitthrawnuruodo7517]

Read the stories on the webside and you know why not. (WARNING: It's 18+ content.)

[@TheKalZul]

It really is a beautiful and well thought out ship. I would only move the lower nacelles forward a bit so the third section has a catamaran look to it and gives an overall more swept look.

[@treizTUBE]

The ECH was a fun idea

[@naomy1701]

i realy like the design, the idea of a multi vector class Odyssey is very intriguing ^^

[@naomy1701]

this was so awesome and detailed, im nothing short of amazed! theres enough info even for Cryptic to make a ship like that in STO (that would be sooooo badass * ^^ *)

[@ace1gl]

You could have an awesome show based off of that ship.

[@supercrew63]

Joe hit it on the nail, AI as in Andromeda

[@90lancaster]

I like the idea of a variable claw cradle as the top of a hull that can pop off grab a damaged ship and skedaddle with it at warp.

[@macmadgunner454]

Wow this is amazing ship you can build a whole show around it. if CBS make this series it could be very good show like voyager.

[@ZeroB4NG]

Voyager? think bigger Battlestar Galactica!

[@ViroVV]

If CBS were to make it, it would be a dumpster fire, just like everything from CBS

[@dboymax1]

@@ViroVV You are right. Look at what they made of Star Trek Picard...

[@ViroVV]

@@dboymax1 TBH after seeing Picard I really do not hate it like most people. It had some missteps but some of it is quite good. Just this morning I was rewatching this scene kzbin.info/www/bejne/bKCneIqHZt5_btU and it still tears me up.

[@ZeroB4NG]

This is the kind of thing i want to see from a new Star Trek Series that is placed post Nemesis. None of the pieces are particularly unique or special, but all parts have legacy, some place where they are inspired from and they have been moved forward to the logical next step. The combination of all that is what shows the love to the source material and that is what makes it special, even when every single piece has been there already, even the look of the Ship is just a Kitbash really, which is also Star Trek tradition and makes perfect sense.

[@gregoryshorts700]

Awesome review . awesome ship . thank you for service and hard work to bring us tech heads the info . Love to see a full detail in a book and blue print design. Cant wait to see what you guys do next .

[@Voltaic_Fire]

It's never good when your ship thinks for itself.

[@bishai]

Awesome episode you guys! Fantastic! But there's really no way you can fully discuss this amazing ship in 1 episode.

[@Pantherblack]

While I got mixed feelings about every design doubling in size, this vessel feels surprisingly Trek.

[@goldenknight578]

Somehow, I have images of this ship being commanded by The Doctor. Can you imagine some of the "conversations" between the Captain and his ship?

[@SumDumGy]

Doctor. Captain Doctor.

[@naomy1701]

that alone could be the plot of several episodes and every Trek fan would love it >_< all the possible plots that come to mind, this would be the perfect ship for a new series, maybe even on Enterprise level as the new main stallion in the stable * ^^ *

[@aquariandawn4750]

@@SumDumGy sounded like a M. A. S. H. reference.

[@aquariandawn4750]

I'd say Captain Data with a female A.I designed by him.

[@DeathBYDesign666]

I used to be heavily into this stuff about 5 to 10 years ago and I had scoured the internet and built up a database of well over 2000 ships from every posible vantage point. It's nice to see some of these non-cannon ship types again. I had toyed with the idea of creating my own versions of new ship types on computer, but they never got past a few rough sketches. If there is anyone out there that would be interested in building my ships in cg I did draw full scematics for many of them and I do have the sizes plotted as well.

[@PDYork]

This is so cool!!!! ...now I'm gonna feel inadequate flying my Odyssey...

[@davidturner3704]

This looks like something I have been thinking of; someday I hope to make it a reality ( a design).

[@baileyjohn259]

nicely DONE!!

[@tempest0392]

I want this in Star trek online soooo badly

[@Karagianis]

I've always thought that since holograms are programs run from the ship's computer a sentient hologram technically IS a sentient ship. Just inhabiting a photonic avatar rather than the hull it's conciousness actually resides in. The two biggest issues I see with fully integrating a sentient AI with the ship it inhabits are; 1) What is the status of the AI if the captain is compromised? Can the ship relive its captain if they break the prime directive? 2) What do you do with it once the ship reaches the end of its service life and needs to be decomissioned?

[@travisgorley8248]

This is the ship that I’ve been wanting to see in Star Trek it takes the best of multi vector and ability to fight for it self with the size and capabilities of the enterprise E would love to see the TV show starring this ship as the new enterprise possibly a little larger but yeah just like it

[@longWriter]

...YOU made the Theurgy class?! It's wonderful!! Valkyrie Fighter vs. X-wing Fighter; I wonder who'd win? Hmm...

[@Arduex2020]

Fascinating ship.. best one ever!!!! A million👍👍👍👍👍

[@kennethsumida5264]

how about a re design of the shuttlecrafts and runabouts?? to me they look like klingon ships.

[@darkjill2007]

That is a awesome fan made shipe

[@KamepinUA]

This ships design feels a lot more fitting for the 26th century for some reason

[@darthdragonborn1076]

I could see this ship making its way onto star trek onlinw

[@cathyvickers9063]

Shades of Andromeda...

[@grayscribe2125]

I always thought that Andromeda was suposed to be a Star Trek ship. The two universes have a lot of similarities and Andromeda was based on notes from Gene Rodenberry.

[@cathyvickers9063]

Gray Scribe Gene Roddenberry had ideas for a 2nd sci-fi series as early as the 70s. He made 3 Earth-based pilots, none of which sold. After his death, his wife used his notes to create a comic book series set on a starship, that was actually pretty good. The TV series Andromeda is, I think, the 5th take on his notes. While I agree there are some superficial similarities, the history of the Systems Commonwealth, the fate of twice-conquered Earth, & technological differences create an independent identity.

[@rkdm84]

10:58 makes it seem like the huge shuttle doors on the top saucer doesn't have a huge capacity considering the middle's hull shape. and with how far recessed the actual door is on the top saucer, i don't see there being much room allocated for it.

[@FLAME456X]

impressive design :3 Lol I would call this a super dreadnought :3

[@jdreeves5527]

Does the ship have a slipstream drive as well as warp? Can it dock with the Defiant in the rear if need be?

[@jonny5777]

I love everything about it! Apart from the name

[@starfox1340]

Who made all of the art work??? its almost movie quality!! Well done!

[@Juxtaposedjoker]

I know I am probably not interpreting the AI correctly but I get this image of the ships' computer having a personality similar to Datas and that alone would be so interesting to see on the show. The ship becoming part of and beloved by the crew...would it be murder to self-destruct? If not legally would it feel that way to the Captain? Sorry, going off on a tangent. Awesome ship. I love the sleekness of it too.

[@mikecrabtree8200]

Picture this in a show based from the perspective of section 31. Never been a show from S31s perspective. This and the Odyssey class are my two all time favorite ships.

[@silmarian]

The ethics around decommissioning a ship with a Soong-style brain at its core would be fascinating - does she get a new body? Would it be ethical to force her to take a new body, be it a ship or humanoid form factor? Or, do you force her to take an upgrade she really doesn't want? It's like the sequel to Measure of a Man.

[@silmarian]

Also, what happens if she decides she doesn't want to be in Starfleet?

[@MrSheckstr]

silmarian it's a bit off topic but I always thought it would be cool if post ST:Nemesis we found out that Commander Data was under special orders from Star Fleet intelligence to back up his memory and personality to a restricted section of one of the Enterprise E computer Core and then he was eventually revived as an AI hologram

[@90lancaster]

She's like a Ship in the Anne Mccaffery series in that she is distinct from the physical ship - so yeah they could take her out and put her in another ship or even just install the brain in her avatar - if the brain is normal size.

[@simonwinn8757]

Then we find out that Star Fleet couldn't reproduce a Soong-style brain and it is in fact just a human in one of those computer linkup chairs, that Barclay made in Nth Degree.

[@MichaelBirks]

That's a nice reference, but you still have the agency issue. What if the Thea entity _didn't_want_ to be transferred?

[@Raussl]

great design

[@soulenoid6701]

A living ship... I love it

[@TheGorignak]

In the original series, there was an episode where Starfleet tested an AI on the Enterprise. Most of the crew was removed and other captains referred to Kirk as Capt. Dunsel (a useless captain). The AI was positronic based and invented by the inventor of the positronic circuit.

[@stanjuan1178]

I'm sure this has all been said in the 200+ comments already. But this ship has all of the foundational supports for a "real" new star trek series. Where the next generation data/emh ship AI can be one of the lead cast members. This is a 8 year series that I desperately want to see. Fan contributions from many different vectors are continuously proving to be many magnitudes better thought out than anything coming out of the IP owners. God I just want real star Trek back. And I vote for THIS star ship.

[@throughmyeyes8568]

where can i find an artist to help with my design?

[@IronWarhorsesFun]

I LOVE THIS DAMN SUPER ROBOT COMBINER SHIP!

[@marvelboy74]

would love to hear more about the helmet and stallion merging without the sword

[@saladinbob]

1) I'd buy that from STO's C-Store if it was available. 2) CBS give your head a wobble and do something like this for a Star Trek series.

[@leeorren9667]

Sweet ship.

[@SIG442]

Sounds like the ideal ship for me, I usually fly the Tac ot Engi CBC's in STO. This is just the same, but with many extra's.

[@eleones]

Really love this ship design. But what happens if any of the external hulls are damaged from battle while separated? One or more of the separate hulls would likely not be able to rejoin until the external damage is repaired. And depending on the tight tolerances allowable when rejoining, the damage can be something very minor (like a 'car dent').

[@anwaraisling]

When discussing AI, be sure to bring up Andromeda Ascendent.

[@antonberkbigler5759]

Theurgy: has a positronic brain What I assume the correct response is: “this brings up a plethora on the ethics of having sentient ships, mainly relating to personhood and self determination. Ships are categorically possessions, be it by the military or otherwise, tools to be used as their possessors see fit. What would happen if the ship didn’t agree with certain orders given to them, or with being a part of the military entirely? I doubt starfleet would simply allow an entire starship to retire and write a holonovel or tend a grape field, would they fore the ship back into service against their will and without their consent? Would they outright lobotomize the ship, in essence murdering a sapient being in order to puppeteer it’s corpse? Th-“ Me: “Star Trek has ship girls now lol”

[@aquariandawn4750]

I'd have Data design her A.I and give the ship to him.

[@sarreqteryx]

I think a better idea for the warp nacelles on Vector 1 would have been to integrate them into the edges of the saucer rings.

[@claytonduvall3208]

Why haven't any episodes come out on this yet?

[@avidian888]

I never understood why the Federation dismissed kinetic weapons like railguns, since physical attacks like ramming Jem Hadar bug-ships turned out to be so efficient and also the Borg's abilities to cope with energy weapons would have made kinetic guns absolutely crucial. I feel like it totally would have made sense to build a big railgun onto all of the warships as an initial charge gun in battles... But then again I never understood a lot of things about the tactical decisions of the Federation... Without Section 31 the Federation would have been doomed to failure.