How to Become a Survey Pilot with Joe Goodner

[@hardy2k11]

One of my brother's forwarded this video to me. I'm currently an aerial siteseeing tour pilot out of Los Angeles with 600 hrs total. I would like to a position like this for about a solid year before moving on to Part 121 Great video Trent🙏🏿✈️✈️✈️🙏🏿

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@alyssa.arcane]

I love this video! Such a great interview. I'm 34, going through a divorce and working with the FAA to get my 1st class medical. Being a single mom, chasing this dream of becoming a pilot, its so helpful for me to see how others achieved this goal!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I’m so glad you’re finding inspiration in my content. Sorry to hear about the D.

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

I know someone who was in the same situation, late 20's I think, who decided to go to school and become a pilot, and along the way met her next hubby. It's a lot of fun following her exploits on FB. Also, she takes her daughter with her as much as she can, and they both love it.

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[@micclay]

I wanted to take a second to compliment your interviewing skill. Great job getting the information out of your guest. And thanks to him for doing this interview.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@Mbell3568]

@@trent_dyrsmid asked all the questions i wouldve asked

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[@brackenquinton2955]

As a pretty new aerial survey pilot myself, I’d like to add that some companies will hire you with 200 hours if you are willing to put in some time (6months-a year) operating the camera systems. Then they transition you to the pilot seat. Might be a better option for people who aren’t on a time crunch.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Good share! Thank you so much for watching!!

[@tristanfreeman901]

Would you be willing to drop the names of some of these companies? Desperate 240 hour pilot here 😅

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Google :)

[@brackenquinton2955]

@@trent_dyrsmid he’s right, type in aerial survey pilot jobs in google and you’ll find several! Depending on where you live there should be plenty. I’d start with vexcel or dewberry.

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[@aldohattonduran5227]

Trent 🛫 I didn't even finish the video but I had to write ✍️ to say.. this is EXACTLY the type of video that is BEST for me! (55 years old starting My journey!) I as well am looking forward to the best way of making money and building QUALITY hours to reach the famous 1,500🛫!! This is the most helpful and least discussed type of aviation video posted! Ty so much.. 🛩️✌🏻🇺🇸👏🏻

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@thatguy8005]

Just remember… if you get sick it is all over, and at 65 you must retire.

[@taatrs]

You’ve gotta do something for the rest of your life. I feel blessed beyond measure that I get to live the dream. If it lasts a year or 10 I’ll be glad I did it. BTW, the Airlines are the only ones beholden to the 65 mando retirement. I’ve bumped into pilots much older who are still doing it because they love it.

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[@closingwithclint411]

As a 48 year old Private Pilot Student with the goal being an Airline Pilot as soon as possible I found this interview very informative and inspiring. I am currently looking at ways to build hours once I get certificated and enjoy hearing alternative ways of doing this other than CFI.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@steelers4srilanka]

I love low hour job interviews. Thanks brother!

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[@taatrs]

There seems to be a popular comment that I’d like to address. The 65 year old mandatory retirement age is ONLY applicable to the 121 airlines. You can fly corporate, fractional - NetJets, XO Jets et al, survey, chief pilot, CFI and the multitude of unknown gigs I’ve run across for as long as you can keep a first class medical. Do what you love and you won’t work a day in your life.

[@lowslow3612]

Maybe. A LOT of corporate and fractionals require previous 121 experience and a baccalaureate degree.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Exaaaactly!

[@craigsanders6925]

Don't need a first class medical for CFI

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[@perrysplus]

Any chance we can get this guys contact info? My career mirrors his and I’d love to talk to him

[@joelee4796]

Trent, bravo sir… I’ve been subscribed since before you went to Ohio and I didn’t get a chance to leave a comment for your “channel direction” video yet. This is exactly what the Fly with Trent channel means to me. Flying footage is cool, seeing your CFI rides are also interesting, but most of all I’m here to watch Trent go from the “can a 50 year old be a commercial pilot” guy to the “SkyWest Captain” guy. You sir, are the channel and your story is the plot. Interviews with guys like Joe and all the other people like us trying to make this midlife career change are fascinating and so helpful. I love the channel, I love your passion for aviation and I thank you for shining such a bright light on this movement. Keep the blue side up sir and keep making this awesome content. Can’t wait to watch the “rest of the story.”

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thanks Joe! It’s an honor to get to do this and inspire/motivate others at the same time.

[@davidmangold1838]

Always apply early, even though you don’t have 1200-1500 hours. It shows your interest, and then you update your application with new logged hours, each couple of months.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@cortezchris2405]

Great video Trent, thank you! I originally wanted to go the CFI route, and although I would still like to get a CFI rating I think something like this would be the way to go for me.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@wputkowski-CFI]

Excellent and informative video. I’m a senior guy much like him building time to a similar position

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@astralbody]

Very interesting, I haven't considered survey as part of my path but after this video I will. The full time schedule is definitely not for me as I'm not a bachelorette haha. Love the idea of 30 on 30 off for part time CFI maybe. Thanks for another good video.👍🏻

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@MagnificentOne]

Always good to see alternatives to the standard CFI route. One observation I have had is that pipeline flying takes a bit more maturity and autonomy than CFIs. It’s a job that requires you to have a high situational awareness index. So definitely not for the CFI who likes to Snapchat photos on every flight. Good interview.

[@alessio272]

And fly 200 agl sometimes.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Are you saying I’m taking too many photos on flights with student? 🤣🤣🤣

[@alessio272]

When you do pipeline inspection sometimes you gotta get low.

[@taatrs]

For sure lol

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[@Neilson_92]

Trent, thanks for another helpful video. A lot to consider here. I just passed my private checkride a few weeks back so this is valuable info going forward!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@markh3676]

Enjoyed the interview, thank you both for providing insights on how to potentially get started in aviation.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Our pleasure!

[@VictoryAviation]

Excellent info! I really appreciate the organized and articulate format from both host and guest. I’m right over the 500 hump and getting ready to get my ME in the next few weeks. I should really start pumping resumes out.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@keithmancinelli3170]

Gerat video guys. Thanks, Joe for giving your time, and giving some of the rest of us another insight for the big move.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@charlesmcnally1620]

Great video. Both of you have a great personality and clear passion for aviation.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thank you kindly!

[@Ron-fh1ef]

Love the advice on the real world experience.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!

[@bg1788]

Hey Joe! Thanks for going up with me a few months back in my Cardinal!

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[@taatrs]

Small world or should I say small internet?

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[@ahmadsamadzai8255]

This was just amazing and valuable. Good work sir.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thank you kindly!

[@johnnyg1968]

Thanks this video is gold.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@fritogranito]

Appreciate the time you're putting into this channel and this is a great guest. His testimony sounds familiar because I was one of the few that got my certificates and discovered that I didn't want to do CFI work. This covers that scenario and it's a rare discussion to find.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@nathanaller1602]

This is a great way to time build! Excellent !!!!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@benh2134]

Fantastic interview Trent. Tons of great info. I really appreciate you investing your time in tracking good people down and sharing what you learn. Good luck Joe. Thanks for sharing your experience. I think you will be an awesome fit with SkyWest. Ben

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Go Joe!

[@sagewarrior5352]

Great interview with Joe Goodner!

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Thx!

[@JoeGerradi]

KUDOS! On that video Trent, I hope that you run into more newbie pilots at that age group; that was encouraging.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I hope so too!

[@AlpineHiker]

Trent, Part 107 Pilot here. 65 Hours on a commercial DJI m300 with LIDAR. Going through ground school as I speak. sounds like I still need to get my CFI and double dip with a Survey company.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@BlueSkyMark]

Great video Trent and Joe - thank you! I found it really informative on a subject that I didn’t know much about. I had several questions while listening and Trent, you managed to ask most of them, which was great. Keep up the great work and all the best on your journey!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thank you so much for watching!!

[@vinividivelcro]

I know a young guy who graduated high school in 2015, did the 2-yr aviation program at our local community college, and started instructing for that college. He picked up extra hours over the summer recess as a co-pilot flying a corporate King Air then moved to Texas and flew survey work for about 6 months. He knocked out tons of hours flying almost every day and now, in his late 20s, has been with a Delta regional carrier for about two years. The aviation world is his oyster. That survey flying made all the difference.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Awesome story!

[@craigsanders6925]

A friend of mine turned 21 in December, got hired at a regional in Jan. He did all his training part 61, then CFI at the same aero club to build hours, got his 1500 in November. Probably the cheapest way to get it done, about 50K for all his training and hours.

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[@ffjames23]

This was valuable information!! Video like these are amazing. Helpful in navigating what our opinions are at the end of the road. Thank you Trent!!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@NotthesingerChrisMartin]

Great interview! Extremely informative.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Much appreciated!

[@alyssa.arcane]

Another cool topic to cover on your channel would be, how to balance being a parent and becoming a pilot. I believe it's so important for our kids to see us chase our dreams! We just gotta be there for them too ❤

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Alyssa….Thanks so much for watching and leaving me a suggestion for what you’d like to see. This helps me so much!!

[@MobileVisions]

Your spouse will need to be a stay at home parent. The majority of all aviation jobs (besides teaching at local school) will require travel and overnight stays. But don’t let that stop you. Get your certificates and teach…worry about it later.

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[@chrismethot9449]

This was another great video! Very informative thanks for posting Trent

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@limanowski1234]

Great interview on the current situation of potential pilot career paths.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@jaeahn816]

Thanks for sharing this video. This interview is such a great encouragement for me as 51 y/o student pilot. I don't know how far I can go, I continuously work for my next step.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

You can do it! You still have 13+ years of flying ahead of you (assuming you go airlines) and even longer if you go corporate.

[@jaeahn816]

@@trent_dyrsmid Speaking of corporate pilot, do you have a plan to interview or post a video how to be a corporate pilot?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Yes. Coming soon.

[@mrmattkeyable]

More low hour job interviews like this one please!

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[@Mgaarons]

Awesome interview, always appreciate it Trent 👍🏽.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@alr5373]

Trent, the optimist in me is thinking you should introduce yourself to Southwest. Explain your channel and how many similar followers you have. Then see if they would be willing to have you interview an interviewer. If you get the OK, do a video letting us all know it’s coming and we could submit our questions ahead of time. BTW, great job with everything so far. I think a lot of us have a stable career and knowing that you are succeeding will help us make the leap.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Great idea. I’ll look into it.

[@alphinignatius9125]

Thank you Trent, for the video..

[@trent_dyrsmid]

My pleasure!

[@larrymiller1426]

Great to know about smaller, low intensity pilot careers are available

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[@Cosme422]

Another great video

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@aviatordalala]

Amazing video, Trent! Thanks 🙏

[@trent_dyrsmid]

My pleasure!

[@ronaldcampbell17]

Love these style videos.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you like them!

[@joshthomas3691]

Great interview! Thanks Trent!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@ericfedde]

Thank you for this video! I have been considering options outside of CFI, or potentially after some work as a CFI, and I had no ideal that survey work could be so advantageous. Really appreciate the insight.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad it was helpful!

[@stephenmason5499]

Thank you for this man!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

My pleasure!

[@michael_viteritti]

Thanks to both, very informative ;D

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@lopex7]

This is great info on the survey path to 1500. Any info you could share on some companies looking for survey pilots?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I don’t have that info. Check indeed.com

[@chaseschneider3226]

Trent, could you do a video that highlights the best aviation jobs for people with kids that would like to be home as much as possible with them?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Fly for a part 135. They often do out and back day trips.

[@RobinReedCoach]

Great video - thanks Kent!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@thatguy7085]

I wouldn’t mind doing it now… I was prior military, I’m fixed wing and helicopter rated with enough time to go to the airlines, but would rather do this.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thanks so much for watching one of my videos! I really appreciate you taking a moment to comment! I read every commemt personally 🙌

[@TGAV8]

Great stuff

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[@james609]

What ppl prep course would you recommend?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

This one flywithtrent.groundschool.com/

[@bartgoins1782]

Great video. Did I miss where he said how many hours he has currently?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I don’t recall either. Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!

[@bartgoins1782]

Absolutely. We have to help local pilots out as much as possible.

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[@chanogarcia4]

This is great! I’m really curious about the time-building phase. Would love to hear how it’s going for you as a CFI, and if you end up trying the survey hybrid. Also, could you tell us why you picked Sky West? What are the characteristics you were looking for in an airline, and how competitive is each airline? Keep up the great work! You’re changing my life!

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I chose Skywest for the following 3 reasons: 1) they have a base in my home town 2) They have over 30 bases and are a major player 3) They don’t have a history of furloughs like other regionals As for other regionals, I never looked at any because I want to live in base.

[@chanogarcia4]

Oh wow, thanks for the response! I wanna stay near home as well, or at least in TX. So I’m looking at regionals with bases in the area. Thanks again!

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[@wmartonejr]

More of these interviews Trent

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Copy that!

[@eglymph]

Alternative career paths for older pilots is the perfect content for this channel! A survey pilot is a good option I did not know about.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Thanks so much for watching one of my videos! I really appreciate you taking a moment to comment! I read every commemt personally 🙌

[@leesanders1619]

Great interview.

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Thx!

[@rn2811]

I’m in the same boat right now contemplating on working on my CFI or going right to multi commercial and shooting for a surveying gig. I just heard recently that my flight school isn’t even promising a CFI job after completing the CFI initial training with them. So I figure what’s the point but great video. Thanks for sharing.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

You’re welcome! Thank you so much for watching and leaving a comment. It all helps my channel to grow and help more guys/gals like us!!

[@kennethpadgettflightparame3548]

Maybe I missed it but are there survey jobs with a 7 on 7 off or a 30 on 30 off schedule? I’ve seen videos where people stated they work 7 days a week with no time off for about six months. I will be looking for a survey job around October.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I suspect so. The only way to know for sure is to make a list of all the survey companies, and then find out.

[@micclay]

Can you explain what he meant by splitting time with someone else? I thought you can't log SIC time unless plane is required to have 2 pilots.

[@taatrs]

You can log safety pilot if one of you is under the “hood” or wearing view limiting goggles. A quick read of the FAR/AIM will show that you can both log everything but taxi, take off and landing as long as one of you is performing this safety pilot role.

[@taatrs]

The advantage is 1/2 the cost but you both get to log hours.

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[@mannygathers2114]

Great interview🫡

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Thx!

[@emergencylowmaneuvering7350]

04:22 You "TURNAROUND" what ? What is the reference point to turnaround it. ?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Survey pilots are flying lines….kind of like mowing a lawn. There is equipment in the cockpit that helps them to do so.

[@Riverplacedad1]

Well congrats..NFO (my guess F18), stock broker (which is harder than it seems) and taking on this challenge in your 50s. CFI isn’t for everybody. Personally I enjoyed being a Navy instructor but it’s not for everybody

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[@brandonlincoln]

Thanks for the video! Quick question - It was mentioned that he was/is flying a Caravan for one of the survey jobs.... Did he have to have experience in that type before being hired or did they facilitate any training for him?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

I don’t believe he did.

[@brandonlincoln]

Thanks

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[@taatrs]

I had zero time in the Caravan when i was hired. It’s really a great airplane to fly and a very basic transition from the 182.

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[@andre5468]

Nearly 400 hours, applied to multiple survey jobs, 1 interview but they cancelled the day before and never got back to me. Shit sucks

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Sorry to hear that! Thank you so much for watching!!

[@sizzelot]

As an affordable way to get 1500 hours, could you qualify and build time flying a powered para glider?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Not that I’m aware of. Has to be an airplane.

[@mrmattkeyable]

Interview a low time pilot thattows banners. Must be a cupcake job flying up and down the beach checking out the sunbathers on the shore and dolphins in the water, large pizza and 2 liter Coke in the passenger seat 😅

[@trent_dyrsmid]

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[@taatrs]

How does it get better than that?

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[@nikh9080]

Loved flying banners. But did watch 2 planes crash, 1 pilot dying. The tow rope wrapped around the tail wheel when the tail hook bounced off the ground. When he hooked the banner it yanked the rudder full over. There was no time to recover.

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Yikes.

[@likes-yv3lj]

How do you find these companies

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Google

[@likes-yv3lj]

@@trent_dyrsmid I’ll have to try that

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[@jonathangloudeman]

I've noticed these flights randomly stalking flight aware! Haha

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[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

Great video! I didn't quite get what he meant when he said he was getting his CFI and decided "this wasn't for me". Initially I thought he meant that going the route towards flying for passenger airlines, but then he said he applied with a passenger airline, so ... what is it he did not want to continue doing? Flight instruction? Is that what everybody expects or wants to build hours? I'm semi-retired and too old to fly passengers even if I wanted to. I'd like to make some money to help offset my costs, but not necessarily as a CFI. I'm not looking for another career, but something to keep busy, make money, and have fun at the same time. Maybe you can find some old farts who are doing that and interview them? 🙂

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Yes a CFI is an instructor. You could fly as a survey pilot. Check out my video on that.

[@taatrs]

During CFI training i got to take a look at the daily life i could expect. Long hours at the airport only to log a 1.8, horrible pay, treated like the sacrificial pawn by the school… As a man in my 50s I really didn’t want to work for some 22 year old scheduler begging for hours for the next 2 years. Survey work gives me complete autonomy. Just a better fit for me.

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[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

​@@taatrsahh, that makes sense now. Thanks. Surveying seems like a great option for some folks. Driving for Uber one night, I picked up a guy at the Four Seasons north of Phoenix. He was going to Old Town Scottsdale, about 1/2 hour south. We got to chatting and he said he was a private jet pilot. I asked him, "how is it that people can have a private jet and their own pilots and fly all around the world and stay in the best hotels?" He said, "Trust Fund Babies." I asked him how he likes it, and he hesitated ... he loves flying and the money was GREAT, but he basically worked on-call and had to pick up and leave at a moment's notice and may not come home for a month. He said if he ever said "No" they'd have a replacement within a day and he'd never get called again. It cost him his marriage, tho. Damn trade-offs, eh?

[@taatrs]

@@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday not a trade off I”m willing to make. Every job has its pluses and minuses. There are many options for a pilot with hours and experience. Find the one you like

[@superpilotish]

Kinda curious. Where are ya working these days? Is your employer cool with your KZbin channel? Any cool stories?

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Are you asking me or Joe? If me, my answer is that I don’t have a boss because I’m an independent CFI and therefore I can do whatever I want with my KZbin channel.

[@mukhiddintashpulatov8865]

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[@thatguy8005]

57 … must retire at 65… wow

[@trent_dyrsmid]

Welcome to my channel! 🙌 I’m so happy to hear that my content has had such a positive impact on you and I look forward to seeing more positive contributions like this to the FWT community from you in the future! 🤓

[@TheAndrewScandal]

Now we're cooking with gas 😉

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