Bucket List: Double Bell Euphonium with 5 Valves

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Trent Hamilton

Trent Hamilton

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@duckserenade
@duckserenade 5 жыл бұрын
"Whuhuhuh, that was close!" *has flashback to the contrabass trombone incident*
@Chatroom64
@Chatroom64 5 жыл бұрын
I still have a screenshot of that
@amanwithears918
@amanwithears918 4 жыл бұрын
Remember what he said? “Never happened”
@drzoidberg71
@drzoidberg71 4 жыл бұрын
This thing is made out of actual metal. It can survive a fall and be easily fixed.
@AdamHallacher
@AdamHallacher 4 жыл бұрын
@@drzoidberg71 wow ur so smart
@jacobcasas5565
@jacobcasas5565 5 жыл бұрын
He did it. He finally did it. The moment we all have been waiting for.
@dayongraves8538
@dayongraves8538 5 жыл бұрын
Jacob Casas dude i’ve been waiting so long for this review 💀
@jeremymarks8228
@jeremymarks8228 5 жыл бұрын
Honestly pretty epic
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 4 жыл бұрын
We STILL haven't seen "French horn, part 2" yet.
@rubenanthonygarcia1491
@rubenanthonygarcia1491 4 жыл бұрын
Pizza time
@snoproblem
@snoproblem 5 жыл бұрын
As Trent releases videos featuring these kinds of instruments, the more I realise that the illustrations made for Dr. Seuss stories were not fever dreams and opium fantasies. The artist must have learned about instruments like these. Cool.
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 5 жыл бұрын
Even the Electro Who-Cardio Flooks?
@sreeser3512
@sreeser3512 5 жыл бұрын
What makes you believe half these instruments aren't themselves drug-addled ideas? Or at least lead-solder-fume-high-addled ideas?
@afloatingpineapple6170
@afloatingpineapple6170 5 жыл бұрын
Did you know Dr. Seuss was a wife beater?
@TWX1138
@TWX1138 5 жыл бұрын
@@afloatingpineapple6170 Do you have a source to cite?
@afloatingpineapple6170
@afloatingpineapple6170 5 жыл бұрын
TWX1138 My English teachers
@danwittmayer6539
@danwittmayer6539 5 жыл бұрын
In Brooklyn, NY, in Midwood High School (1969-1971) I played a double belled euphonium in Concert Band. Our director never had time to incorporate the auxiliary bell into an arrangement. He had no interest to instruct me in that unusual horn. I loved playing it as a euphonium. It saddens me that this was an opportunity wasted. I don't know who manufactured it; it was old. Both bells were detachable facing forward, not upwards. The valves were set up like on your Conn, but were not stiff at all, a student friendly horn. Ten years ago I inquired about the horn when I called the director on the phone. That director knew nothing about the instrument.
@Aaron42J
@Aaron42J 5 жыл бұрын
Always love seeing Ekhart on your instruments. My hometown, making instruments that made it all the way to New Zealand.
@georgeparkins777
@georgeparkins777 3 жыл бұрын
Was Buescher there too? I know that I've inquired with Anderson Silver in Elkhart about getting a 1890's cornet mouthpiece re-silvered so I'm not putting a chunk of lead to my face.
@Ivytheherbert
@Ivytheherbert 4 жыл бұрын
It's for musical trench warfare. The main bell is a longer range sniper system for attacking the other trench and covering ground troops, the smaller bell is for close combat in case trumpet infantry make it to your trench. The reason they've lost popularity is that with the development of synths during the Cornet War, no conductor was willing to actually do battle due to the risks of musically assured destruction (MAD). As such instruments with more complicated designs necessitated by battlefield conditions have declined in use.
@stubblyhead
@stubblyhead 5 жыл бұрын
There was a guy in the local civic band when I was a kid who played a double-belled euphonium, I think both bells were forward facing. He always said the regular bell was the euphonium and the other was the trombonium.
@mason11198
@mason11198 5 жыл бұрын
That one dislike came from a triple bell horn
@jeremymarks8228
@jeremymarks8228 4 жыл бұрын
Quintuple slide, double bell, quadruple valve, piccolo euphonium
@nedthewarrior3490
@nedthewarrior3490 4 жыл бұрын
Duuuuuuuuuude, that sounds stupidly crazy. But I guess I play woodwinds so who knows.
@abedinsubashi
@abedinsubashi 5 жыл бұрын
Nobody: Trents 2 belled euphonium: Pizza Time
@cetologist
@cetologist 5 жыл бұрын
Abedin Subashi the song he plays at the beginning is Napoli.
@lesdessouschics
@lesdessouschics 5 жыл бұрын
Invalid Numeral you mean pizza time
@cetologist
@cetologist 5 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/mp3PfmeQdt6CaNE
@rainbowbatman5931
@rainbowbatman5931 5 жыл бұрын
@@cetologist it's also know as the Spiderman pizza theme by cultured people
@cetologist
@cetologist 5 жыл бұрын
Rainbowbatman59 *uncultured people
@spike6192
@spike6192 5 жыл бұрын
Its pizza time...
@timlinnabary8296
@timlinnabary8296 5 жыл бұрын
Now, if they could only come up with a double bell ukulele, then the world would be musically complete.
@peteroselador6132
@peteroselador6132 5 жыл бұрын
Stroh ukulele time?
@isetta4083
@isetta4083 4 жыл бұрын
Romanian Stroh Uke
@kj4ilk
@kj4ilk 5 жыл бұрын
do these older double belled instruments have a way to tune the second bell at all?
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, there’s a separate tuning slide
@selbatsfam02
@selbatsfam02 5 жыл бұрын
@@TrentHamilton Hmm, quarter tone time?
@mason11198
@mason11198 4 жыл бұрын
@@selbatsfam02 YEES
@dayongraves8538
@dayongraves8538 5 жыл бұрын
Shout out to all the Euphonium players 🤟🏽
@pauls5745
@pauls5745 5 жыл бұрын
it would be wonderful if this horn can be fully restored. thank you presenting another fine instrument from history
@Markworth
@Markworth 5 жыл бұрын
In before Euphonium elitists, somehow! I've played a few Conn Euphs and none of them had heavy springs, so those are probably replacements. On a short action Euph, the valves should be faster than your embouchure, basically. The lack of documentation or literature on the double-bell Euph isn't that surprising. Sousa's band used them, but he didn't release his personal band arrangements and it was impossible to reproduce the 5th valve parts because amateur recording technology was so poor. Also, things just get forgotten much faster than people think they do. Bb Tenorhorn is a good example of something practically forgotten that isn't even dead yet. Overall, I imagine that the nature of instruments at the time also contributed to its popularity and longevity. People bought instruments to have fun with because there was nothing better to do. Euphonium is a pleasant and mostly easy instrument to monkey around with. Two bells. Double the fun.
@zackrickabaugh5456
@zackrickabaugh5456 5 жыл бұрын
I love these instruments, not only double belled but American style baritones are amazing
@Aardvark892
@Aardvark892 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this on my phone... Held up the forward bell to my ear as though I'd be able to hear it.
@bayrische1
@bayrische1 4 жыл бұрын
Trent, I have a 1902 Conn Double Belled three valved Euphonium (and, of course, a fourth valve to cut the small bell section in and out). There are those who ascribe its invention to none other than John Phillip Sousa. It was invented so trombonists and euphoniumists could double each others' parts on a single instrument. Thus, the sound emanating from the smaller bell sounds much like a valve trombone. If there were a way to post photos of my horn in my comment, I would do so. I recently posted photos of it on the Facebook page, Endangered Musical Instruments. I play it primarily with a band that performs music from the 1880s through the 1930s: lots of rags, etc.
@bjrnmikkelsen3790
@bjrnmikkelsen3790 5 жыл бұрын
We have been waiting for this
@christroiano121
@christroiano121 5 жыл бұрын
It isn’t very difficult to find information on these instruments being used in the United States. Until Harold Brasch of the US Navy Band introduced the compensating euphonium to the US from Europe in the 1950s, the double bell euphonium was the standard instrument for concert bands. Most military and civilian bands played these horns for the entire first half of the twentieth century. Concert Variations by Jan Bach is a contemporary euphonium solo written for and utilizing the double bell euphonium.
@jclark2752
@jclark2752 8 ай бұрын
The dynamics on that intro piece were very nicely done! 👍
@euphinism1
@euphinism1 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Buescher double bell with 4 valves many years ago, while I was in college. Still regret letting go of it, as it was in great condition!
@MazeMan91
@MazeMan91 5 жыл бұрын
When I go participate in Tuba Christmas, there are 1 or 2 double bells playing as well - very cool.
@ezequielsanchez9191
@ezequielsanchez9191 3 жыл бұрын
I saw a double belled sousaphone one year it was really cool
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 2 жыл бұрын
Tubamas in Baltimore?
@ThomasDawkins88
@ThomasDawkins88 5 жыл бұрын
The Wessex "Duplex" Euphonium: wessex-tubas.com/collections/euphonium-and-baritone/products/duplex-eb-euphonium-ep105
@carolyunker-804
@carolyunker-804 3 жыл бұрын
We just saw 2 of these in Mason City, IA at the Music Man Museum and wanted to see one in action. Thank you for this demo!
@cyborgjonny
@cyborgjonny 5 жыл бұрын
I haven't watched this channel in a hot minute and you're still playing that Italian song lol
@jamesha175
@jamesha175 5 жыл бұрын
it is called "Funiculi Funicula"
@Potter5416
@Potter5416 5 жыл бұрын
Let me take a moment to pay tribute to the opening theme!
@chartle1
@chartle1 5 жыл бұрын
😕 I thought the extra bell gave you a little more volume. You know when you need to go to 11. 😉
@Metal-Possum
@Metal-Possum 5 жыл бұрын
Energy is not free you know, you'll only get out of it what you can give it.
@lukeparsons4965
@lukeparsons4965 5 жыл бұрын
Yes but the bell would be pointed towards the audience so it would be louder for them
@SmokeyTube
@SmokeyTube 5 жыл бұрын
Its not louder its just pointed at the mic
@chartle1
@chartle1 5 жыл бұрын
@@Metal-Possum it's the over unity bell. 😉
@berkeleygang1834
@berkeleygang1834 5 жыл бұрын
The flare and diameter of the alternate bell is different. We actually have 2 double bell Euphoniumists in my local community band. They say the alternate bell gives a tone more like a trombone. It's sort of like the difference between a trumpet and a cornet. Direction has very little to do with it. It's probably pointed forward simply for packaging - where else would the alternate bell go?
@gabe5120
@gabe5120 4 жыл бұрын
This does not seem obsolete. It looks like it would be useful, switching from a darker tone to a happy one.
@rikkiegieler5638
@rikkiegieler5638 5 жыл бұрын
That’s so cool! I’m jealous.
@c.f.beeble
@c.f.beeble 2 жыл бұрын
The only reference I've ever heard to Double Belled Euphoniums was in the lyrics to the Meredith Willson tune, "Seventy-Six Trombones." I've always wondered what they were, and so thanks for showing me! Great videos, btw,, and excellent playing.
@AndyMarsh
@AndyMarsh 5 жыл бұрын
Awesome beast, almost sounds a bit baritony on the front bell.
@legoshaakti
@legoshaakti 5 жыл бұрын
That’s because a “double bell euphonium” is actually a euphonium and baritone combined
@AndyMarsh
@AndyMarsh 5 жыл бұрын
@@legoshaakti No, it's a Euphonium with a second smaller bell.
@SamuelPlaysBrass
@SamuelPlaysBrass 5 жыл бұрын
@@AndyMarsh I'd argue that the 'smaller bell' is meant to emulate a trombone/baritone.
@chartle1
@chartle1 5 жыл бұрын
It's two, two instruments in one! 😆 I guess only old people in the US will get that joke. 👍
@AndyMarsh
@AndyMarsh 5 жыл бұрын
@@SamuelPlaysBrass Emulate yes, I can agree with that. But to say it's a combined Euphonium and Baritone as Zeri suggested isn't right... I believe there was a double horn that two complete sets of tubing, that could have one set of tapered tubing and the other set straight bore I suppose... That really would be a combined Euphonium and Baritone.
@brokenwrench1
@brokenwrench1 5 жыл бұрын
sousa wrote for these and his band performed with them . there was a two belled dual pitch baritone alto combo. both bells were 45 degree tilted forward. this way one player could play 2 different parts without having 2 seperate horns.
@mackenlyparmelee5440
@mackenlyparmelee5440 3 жыл бұрын
Your playing on this thing sounds great!
@paulroutledge4923
@paulroutledge4923 5 жыл бұрын
I forget how many years ago it was but at The International Music Camp but they played Echo Waltz by Edwin Goldman using double bell euphoniums. They soloists used the 2nd bell.
@brucedewing4187
@brucedewing4187 2 жыл бұрын
I play my DB pretty often. My default piece is Dueling Banjos. Makes them laugh every time.
@dliessmgg
@dliessmgg 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen a double-bell horn on the youtube channel of an experimental/avant garde group form Germany. But it's nice to see that people in the past were just as weird as us today.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
Remember, they only had pipe organs for "synthesis" until the 1920s came along and the Theremin and Ondes Martenot came out. Thus a lot more emphasis was placed on getting multiple sounds out of each instrument in a band.
@djiboutiball7560
@djiboutiball7560 5 жыл бұрын
“It was made in The United States of Americaland in 19 ted.”
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 4 жыл бұрын
I never would've heard of double-belled euphonia, had they not been mentioned in the lyrics for "76 Trombones".
@finnmcool2
@finnmcool2 Жыл бұрын
I believe the second bell is referred to as the hold out. It is intended as a bell of last resort.
@DougKremer
@DougKremer 5 жыл бұрын
Love it, sounds pretty dang good too.
@DynamixWarePro
@DynamixWarePro 5 жыл бұрын
I have always had the same fascination with odd brass and woodwind instruments. One I would like someday is a Jazzophone, if I can find any for sale (which seems rare they come up for sale) and I can afford one also would love a Conn-O-Sax. When the second bell came off, it made me curious. What does it play/sound like when you play with the 5th valve and the second bell isn't attached?
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
Sharp and kinda fuzzy. Just like a screw-bell trombone with the bell not attached, except a bit darker.
@DynamixWarePro
@DynamixWarePro 5 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc Thanks
@guyjordan8201
@guyjordan8201 5 жыл бұрын
IT LIVES!!!!! Nice work.
@timdouglass9831
@timdouglass9831 5 жыл бұрын
I would really love to see you trace out the tubing on this.
@TitanicTom1912
@TitanicTom1912 4 жыл бұрын
I just ordered a Wessex Duplex euphonium. It should arrive tomorrow. I have been playing an 1895 Conn that was professionally restored in 2004. I use it exclusively for 3rd trombone parts in an orchestra I play in. The Conn plays exceptionally well for its age; it is comparable to my Wessex Dolce. However, it isn’t in modern pitch, is small bore, and doesn’t compensate. These issues make switching between the instruments somewhat difficult, especially going from a Wick SMU 4 mouthpiece to a Bach 6 1/2 AL. It just made sense to get an instrument that combined the advantages of both my Conn and Dolce without any of the disadvantages of either. I will be writing a review of the Duplex in the future, and I would be happy to share it with you if you want.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 4 жыл бұрын
Yes please do share!
@TitanicTom1912
@TitanicTom1912 4 жыл бұрын
Trent Hamilton I have posted my review
@CuzzaBoyee
@CuzzaBoyee 5 жыл бұрын
I like the part where you said any combination of fingers for valves. I use right hand 1, left hand 2, right hand 3, left hand 4, right hand 5.
@bigcoop8442
@bigcoop8442 5 жыл бұрын
why tf he playing the spider man 2 pizza theme? ngl he do be vibin wit da euphonium doe
@harvestedvoltage4324
@harvestedvoltage4324 4 жыл бұрын
Trent has got to be the music world’s (or at least the brass world’s) Doug DeMuro.
@MichaelSidneyTimpson
@MichaelSidneyTimpson Жыл бұрын
I think I would be cool if they were able to make some sort of variation of the double or triple horn with rotary vavles, where it starts witht the same mouthpiece and end with the same bell, but in between it can go from Euphonium, Baritone, and/or some sort of valve trombone.
@AdrianAtStufish
@AdrianAtStufish 5 жыл бұрын
Trent, only you could edit up a video demonstrating the double bell euphonium without noticing you'd fillmed it just cutting off the sight of your dainty left paw operating (or not) the all important 5th valve! So we don't know which bell we're listening to!
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I tried to ensure everything was framed correctly, but obviously failed in some parts.
@brucefelger4015
@brucefelger4015 3 жыл бұрын
Simone Mantia used to play a double-bell euphonium as a virtuoso. While part of the Sousa and Pryor Bands, Simone at times favoured the double-belled euphonium and he even composed "Priscilla" (in tribute to Jane Priscilla Sousa), a double-bell euphonium solo.
@hirokokueh3541
@hirokokueh3541 4 жыл бұрын
this would be very convenient for theaters, small wind bands, or rock horn sections to switch between trombone and euphonium. some early King models are 0.562 bore, they would work well as bass trombone, but the Wessex Duplex is 0.59 bore, not sure about it.
@notmyworld44
@notmyworld44 5 жыл бұрын
In comments below another of your videos I made reference to one of your "British" figures of speech. Now knowing that you are New Zealander I humbly beg your forgiveness.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
All good, I get it a lot
@michaeloxman6572
@michaeloxman6572 Жыл бұрын
I picked up a sliver double bell euphonium from a fellow who said his dad literally found it on the side of the road 40 years ago. It was in sorry shape but not really banged up so I was able to shine it up nicely, change the springs and felts and it plays really well. Its a 1910 Conn Perfected Double Bell Euphonium. It was, however, missing the small bell which I could not find anywhere, so I picked up a $20 Olds Ambassador trombone at a garage sale, cut off the bell, and mated it to the main instrument with some flared plastic pipe. I looked for a video to see what the small bell is supposed to sound like because my improvised bell sounded stuffy, but it sounds like that's how it sounds. Thanks for this and all your videos. They're really fun to watch.
@Hyperion_21
@Hyperion_21 5 жыл бұрын
Concept similar to this: A double-bell trumpet, but it's designed to have a bass secondary. What I mean is a trumpet that, instead of having a pinky ring, have a rotary valve that switched between 2 airways. One airway is bass trumpet and the other is standard. They then go through valves, which are probably 6 valves keyed together like most woodwinds, until entering the bell pipe, shaped like the standard double-belled trumpet with bass on the bottom. On the topic of the valves, a metal bar would be directly attached to the larger valve and the smaller, and pressing the smaller would move the larger. In a normal band environment, it would be better to have 2 players with trumpet and euphonium, so it would be more or less a novelty instrument or a soloist instrument. Also, mouthpiece would have to be a hybrid between trumpet and trombone/euphonium, so the highest and lowest notes would be harder to play than on the normal instrument. Also, what was the first song you played? I want your opinion on this. Thanks.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
It would be a nightmare to play, be very heavy and very complex to work properly
@MH-iv7tk
@MH-iv7tk 5 жыл бұрын
Napoli
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
It would be like the high and low sides of a triple horn. Take a look at the way they do it, and the substantial weight penalty that comes with it -- and the inevitable acoustic compromises. In short, it's hard enough to design a taper that plays well enough in just F and B♭, but you CAN optimize for two different lengths to work reasonably well. Adding a third one and trying to get it to work necessarily makes the other two "sides" of the horn less perfect, because the top and bottom are a whole octave apart (or a 7th if you put the descant horn in E♭). However, it absolutely can be done if you bear in mind those limitations, and more easily with rotary valves than piston, I think. The question would be whether you want to make your valves fully independent slides like a double horn, or compensating like a euphonium. (Either way you could steal a horn valve cluster design and scale it.) Now there are trumpet/flugelhorn double-bell instruments, and four-valve flugelhorns, but I don't think both have been combined into one instrument as yet. Even though it's not compensating, that combination might be what you're looking for. If you can find someone willing to make a trumpet/flugelhorn hybrid like that, they probably wouldn't blink at using a 4-valve cluster to go with it. Then you can play the flugelhorn bell down to the fundamental at least, even though the trumpet side doesn't have a resonance there.
@DouggieDinosaur
@DouggieDinosaur 2 жыл бұрын
Both bells sound beautiful - I assume you could add a mute to one to make the difference even more extreme. Would a mute on one bell complicate intonation?
@pitgroove.37_66
@pitgroove.37_66 5 жыл бұрын
Jazz trumpet legend Bobby Shew played a few times on a double-bell trumpet
@petehammer4676
@petehammer4676 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, the Shew horn.
@bikkies
@bikkies 5 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing this is the sort of instrument that inspired echo cornets and their ilk. I have not removed that nasty Sai echo cornet from its coffin of reeking grot since I did that video by the way...
@waynesteffen8459
@waynesteffen8459 5 жыл бұрын
Is the smaller bell more of a baritone than euphonium?
@nickdonner6330
@nickdonner6330 5 жыл бұрын
Trent, or anyone, what do you think of the quality of euphonium that Wessex makes such as the “Dolce” euphonium? I am looking to get away from my YEP-321 euphonium and was looking at the Dolce. Thanks
@rezalzalahmusic7605
@rezalzalahmusic7605 5 жыл бұрын
hey! I've been on the dolce for about 10 months. Keep in mind I am a freshman in high school, so these are all opinions coming from someone young. one question: at what level are you playing? as in, are you in high school, middle school, university, just a casual player, etc. the big difference is that the YEP-321 is non-compensating, and the Wessex Dolce is compensating. the compensating system is quite good on the dolce, and the fourth valve is far more convenient when controlled by the left hand rather than having it in line with the others and controlled with your little finger (Americans would call it a pinky). on the topic of valves, the springs can be a little stiff, so if you prefer to have more free-flowing valves, get some lower-tension springs. the valves work quite well and are cut evenly and cleanly, so no need to worry about restricted airflow. the valve caps are nice, flat, and either aesthetically pleasing or tacky, depending on how you view the Wessex logo. from my 10 or so months of playing, I've felt the intonation to be good. now, let me clarify. this horn is under $2000 US. you can't exactly expect every single note to be exactly in tune. specifically, B natural on top of the staff always seems to be flat. I've tried to use alternate fingerings, but they just end up being sharper or no different. another one is F above the staff. it's hard to notice when playing quickly, but when held, it tends to be a bit sharp. it can be quite treacherous when playing either of these notes during slow pieces. with all that said, the intonation on literally anything else is pretty amazing for one of the cheaper horns. the metal on the Wessex dolce is my only near-major gripe. it's cheap, and I say that in the kindest way possible. I love my dolce, but it dents unfortunately easily. you definitely want to be careful. if you're going to be purchasing a dolce, don't make the mistake I did; definitely go for the silver lacquer or the silver lacquer with gold accents. scratches are less noticeable, and, silver being a thicker lacquer, it won't dent as hard and make the sound much warmer. that's my two cents. if you wish to know anything more, let me know!
@Lazarus2112
@Lazarus2112 5 жыл бұрын
Not really an expert but depending on your budget John Packer also seems to be a good choice, and if you’re not looking to buy one new a Boosey And Hawked-Besson imperial can go for around 3k on eBay and are generally solid horns
@nickdonner6330
@nickdonner6330 5 жыл бұрын
GameRex I am a Junior almost senior in highschool and have been playing since 5th grade and feel that I am to the point of out playing the Yamaha in a sense
@a.j.pierson9380
@a.j.pierson9380 5 жыл бұрын
What was the piece he played at the beginning?
@spike6192
@spike6192 5 жыл бұрын
Pizza them from spiderman 2
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
Napoli
@DynamixWarePro
@DynamixWarePro 5 жыл бұрын
Funiculi Funicula (or variations on Napoli)
@a.j.pierson9380
@a.j.pierson9380 5 жыл бұрын
@@TrentHamilton thanks
@a.j.pierson9380
@a.j.pierson9380 5 жыл бұрын
@@DynamixWarePro thanks
@markkennedy3543
@markkennedy3543 5 жыл бұрын
Simon Mantia was a featured and sponsored double Bell player.
@mikestang679
@mikestang679 3 жыл бұрын
There is a 4 valve double euphonium on eBay right now starting bid $900.....4 valve verses 5 valve what are the drawbacks?
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 3 жыл бұрын
The four value double valve won't have the normal "fourth" valve, which lowers the pitch from Bb to F. It'll be like a 3 value euphonium with a valve to change bell.
@mikestang679
@mikestang679 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrentHamilton Thank you, Sir, great channel with content, and you are most humorous with a lot of knowledge....
@alexcarter8807
@alexcarter8807 5 жыл бұрын
Love this content! From sunny "Silicon Valley" this vid would have taken about 17 HOURS to upload, so I really appreciate that anyone can put anything at all up here. Have you checked out the anime "Sound! Euphonium" which is popular these days? The instruments in it are dead-on accurate.
@hiiexist479
@hiiexist479 Жыл бұрын
Now we need double bell marching euphonium
@brettzolstick989
@brettzolstick989 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you Trent, thats pretty wacky.
@TheFoolish727
@TheFoolish727 5 жыл бұрын
Could I have the sheet music of the beginning song on trombone?
@1dsmurray
@1dsmurray 5 жыл бұрын
Look for "Funiculi, funicula."
@TheFoolish727
@TheFoolish727 4 жыл бұрын
@@1dsmurray thank
@quinngunderson1698
@quinngunderson1698 8 ай бұрын
My grandma left me one of these and I’m curious if you could provide any info. It’s a 5 Valve Double Bell, and the Serial Number is 69675. Two sites tell me this dates it to 1881, and another says 1885. On the bell it reads “ Made by C.G. Conn, Elkhart IN and New York”. She played in high school in the mid 40s. I’d love to know more about it. I read that a new type of valve was used in 1881
@rakutzimbel4539
@rakutzimbel4539 4 жыл бұрын
😲 What a beauty!
@zombiedropper1013
@zombiedropper1013 5 жыл бұрын
Is there any chance that you would review a contrabass bugle?
@notmyworld44
@notmyworld44 5 жыл бұрын
Contra-bass bugle??? Can you imagine playing CHARGE! on a contra-bass bugle? The enemy would laugh themselves to death!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
@Wayne Warmack He's talking about an American style Drum and Bugle Corps contra. It's basically a 2 or 3 valve (depending on when it was used) tuba pitched in G, below the normal BB♭ tuba. It was notable originally because it's held on the shoulder with the bell facing forward, but that has since become a very common orientation for marching tubas. This is where it started. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contrabass_bugle Prior to that, most marching bands used sousaphones to project the sound forward rather than upward. Some still do.
@notmyworld44
@notmyworld44 5 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc Fascinating! I followed your Wiki link. Thank you!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
I've actually played with, and written for, "classic" drum corps with a horn line entirely in the key of G: mal-2.bandcamp.com/track/the-hut-of-the-baba-yaga-the-great-gate-of-kiev-drum-corps is a render, but deliberately written to take advantage of G bugles and what naturally "sits well" on them. It is a different mindset, but not entirely disconnected from either a normal marching band or a brass band. The way the rules are written now, basically it _is_ just a brass band except that trombones are forbidden (valves only, no slides) as are sousaphones (you have to be able to raise and lower your instrument -- it can't be wrapped around the body). Classic drum corps has all instruments in the same key, and that was almost always G, so your sopranos and altos (mellophones) are actually the same length. Aside from the bell flare, there's almost no difference between a G flugelhorn and a G mellophone. A G french horn is double the tubing length but (for traditional reasons) NOT considered a bass instrument. It's also not used much anymore now that the horn line has enough valves to play a proper chromatic scale -- way too easy to fluff notes while trying to march at the same time. The baritones and euphoniums (the difference is pretty much the same as the brass band distinction) are an octave lower, and are your "bass" instruments (using the definition of "an octave below the normal size"). And that's why contras are contras. They're TWO octaves below the soprano bugle, which remains the dominant instrument (usually 60% or so of the horn line). tl;dr: Classic drum corps uses five types of horn: soprano, alto, baritone, euphonium, and contra. They only come in three lengths, all an octave apart, and there is a sound associated with all the horns being on the same harmonic series.
@musicalgamer7896
@musicalgamer7896 4 жыл бұрын
Is the mechanism for the secondary bell similar to that of the echo cornet?
@jamesburnett7085
@jamesburnett7085 3 жыл бұрын
I wanted to hear the SECONDARY BELL. Did you use it?
@petehammer4676
@petehammer4676 2 жыл бұрын
If you listen closely, the second bell has a distinctly different sound, more trombony than the main bell.
@jasonsummit1885
@jasonsummit1885 4 жыл бұрын
Doesn't Wessex make ophicleides too?
@EdenStoneReal
@EdenStoneReal 2 жыл бұрын
is it part Euphonium part baritone?
@lelotz
@lelotz 2 жыл бұрын
What is the song you play at the end?
@Hennessy1111
@Hennessy1111 4 жыл бұрын
Where do you buy your instruments Trent?
@bdragon1445
@bdragon1445 5 жыл бұрын
Which valve operates the secondary bell?
@MegaSaxman007
@MegaSaxman007 5 жыл бұрын
How does the second Bell effect the sound? Is one conical and one cylindrical bore? Or does one just make the sound softer or muted? Thanks!
@notmyworld44
@notmyworld44 5 жыл бұрын
I wish he had demonstrated that more definitively in the video.
@Markworth
@Markworth 5 жыл бұрын
The entire length of the horn is duplicated from the 5th valve onward. So ~.560" to an Alto Horn bell in ~7 feet, maybe? That should be quite cylindrical. Basically, you have an American Euphonium and a large bore Trombonium in one instrument. With 4 valves no less!
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
It would still be a standard 9 foot B♭ length, no matter which bell is in use. Due to end effects, the small bell is actually a bit shorter but it's not by a lot.
@Markworth
@Markworth 5 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc I was subtracting for the lead pipe and valve block which are obviously not duplicated.
@lorimitchell9025
@lorimitchell9025 5 жыл бұрын
The song that you played in the beginning of the video what was the name of it?
@isetta4083
@isetta4083 4 жыл бұрын
Funiculi funicula
@yeezet4592
@yeezet4592 4 жыл бұрын
Pizza time
@neilriver
@neilriver 5 жыл бұрын
What song did he play at the beginning I recognize it by I can't remember what it's called
@thetrashman3022
@thetrashman3022 5 жыл бұрын
Spider-Man pizza theme
@angelo_catalano
@angelo_catalano 5 жыл бұрын
The actual title of the song is funiculi funicula
@paulcheenis8768
@paulcheenis8768 5 жыл бұрын
Angelo Catalano pizza time
@pascaldijkhuizen6600
@pascaldijkhuizen6600 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have any 2 belled trumpets or do you have any experience with them you are willing to share? Loved the video btw and love your channel for a good few years now. Keep on with the good content, you legend!
@ferretyluv
@ferretyluv 2 жыл бұрын
There’s one instrument he has with a bunch of bells that he hates. It’s called a martinshorn.
@drakesomerset129
@drakesomerset129 5 жыл бұрын
Hello Trent, I was wondering if you could recommend a pocket trumpet for under $400, thanks!
@plinkbottle
@plinkbottle 4 жыл бұрын
It sounds quite good?
@edwardcooper7711
@edwardcooper7711 5 жыл бұрын
So cool
@BlackJack55_55
@BlackJack55_55 5 жыл бұрын
May I suggest that you can get some brand spanking new, "different" brass instruments like the double-belled euphonium at Wessex Tubas
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
I can’t afford to do that
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 5 жыл бұрын
I think he's suggesting calling yourself a reviewer and just asking for stuff, at least temporarily. Nice work, if you can get it.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 5 жыл бұрын
@@mal2ksc I doubt any major company would be interested in sending me equipment to review.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
That's why I said "if you can get it". To have a good chance of getting into that position, you'd probably want to attend NAMM or Musikmesse and hobnob with people there. Given where you live, I fully understand if you don't want to do that.
@kelpyg5092
@kelpyg5092 5 жыл бұрын
Double the fun
@rlevitta
@rlevitta 7 ай бұрын
Did you say it was made in 1900 out of tin?
@sammywammy1846
@sammywammy1846 5 жыл бұрын
What was the piece you played in the beginning
@rogermwilcox
@rogermwilcox 4 жыл бұрын
I think that's "Funiculi, Funicula"
@musicalguy9
@musicalguy9 4 жыл бұрын
Cool My friend has 2 Tubas 1 Baritone and 2 Euphoniums
@drzoidberg71
@drzoidberg71 5 жыл бұрын
Instrument makers of the time didn't really specialize. They wanted to have as large a variety of instruments as possible in their catalog in order to make sales. That's why they'd have the exact same instrument listed 5-6 times in their catalog but with different features on it. They mass produced them (as seen in most photos of old brass factories, with huge numbers of trombone slides hanging from the ceiling,) and the lesser quality instruments were still made by the same workers, but without gold plating, or other frills such as engraving.\ Back in the 1800's-early 1900's, the materials in an instrument were the expensive bit, and the workmanship was the less expensive bit. Nowadays that's the opposite. Instruments such as this were quite popular with circus bands and gimmick ensembles of the era. At any given time you can find several double bell euphoniums on ebay for sale. Even the barely functional ones go for a decent price though, so I hope the Wessex instrument is a decent purchase.
@Markworth
@Markworth 5 жыл бұрын
The one problem I have with the Wessex is that it's not the same thing. It sounds good and the price is right, but what if I don't a British Euphonium? Too bad, I guess.
@Dr_E_Yekley
@Dr_E_Yekley 4 жыл бұрын
That's a 110 year old instrument? It's in REMARKABLE condition!
@alfonsohuaman6116
@alfonsohuaman6116 5 жыл бұрын
What was the name of the song from the beginning?
@sebastiangeorger5791
@sebastiangeorger5791 5 жыл бұрын
Sandstorm by Darudé
@MH-iv7tk
@MH-iv7tk 5 жыл бұрын
Napoli
@ephronium
@ephronium 5 жыл бұрын
Ive wanted one of those for months i think cg conn made a compensating double bell euphonium that ive wanted the most also did you get yours online or from a music shop if you get it online can you tell me the site because if you did get it from a site I would know that the site isnt a scam Also what note would the 5th valve produce when pressing down just that valve
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
The notes don't change when you press the 5th valve, unless you did a bad job of matching the tuning between the two bells.
@12345Nicholas
@12345Nicholas 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet
@kevinkalmbach8886
@kevinkalmbach8886 4 жыл бұрын
Many Conn Horns are silver plated then a thin gold plating was applied. It looks like you are buffing off the gold.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 4 жыл бұрын
Gold doesn’t tarnish or oxidise like this.
@mal2ksc
@mal2ksc 4 жыл бұрын
Even if so... a Caswell gold plating kit is about $30 and could fix the gold on about 4 horns or a dozen-plus mouthpieces. (Catch: gold really only sticks well to silver, so if there's no silver left, you'll have to replace that first. That'll be another $30, but will also cover a _lot_ of instrument replating.)
@JB-hq8bv
@JB-hq8bv 5 жыл бұрын
Wild
@da33smith37
@da33smith37 3 жыл бұрын
This may astonish you, but I searched for this video specifically to hear the sound from the second bell. Not sure it was even exercised in this video.
@TrentHamilton
@TrentHamilton 3 жыл бұрын
I use both bells in this video and switch between them regularly. 00:19, switch to secondary bell. 00:28 back to primary. 00:37 back to secondary 00:47 primary 00:48 secondary etc....
@da33smith37
@da33smith37 3 жыл бұрын
@@TrentHamilton Terrific - Thank you for clarifying. 😊
@serjgaming1622
@serjgaming1622 5 жыл бұрын
0:45
@RustyFlame
@RustyFlame 5 жыл бұрын
Isn’t it technically a Euphonium/Baritone, because the 5th valve switches the instrument between playing Euphonium and baritone.
@tubaboydany5020
@tubaboydany5020 5 жыл бұрын
Wow
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