Trenton Doyle Hancock Artist Response - Philip Guston: On Edge

[@Shieldbiter1000]

Hi Trenton. I enjoyed your video and your story, and seeing how you have been inspired by my uncle, Philip Guston (Philip Goldstein). I grew up surrounded by his paintings and always delighted in the family stories and history. Uncle Phil was dear friends with my grandparents and with my dad. There is a great book written by his daughter, Musa, titled Night Studio. I think you would enjoy reading it if you haven't already. Thanks so much for sharing your story and artwork.

[@johnfeodorov]

Thank you Trenton for your comments on Guston. I too am very inspired by Guston's work, though I learned of him later in life. Pink is now an important element in my paintings ever since! Would love to meet you some day.

[@KpxUrz5745]

I was fortunate to meet and admire Guston, and in fact ran into him at an uptown gallery showing of his paintings. At that time I was a graduate student, but looking back wish I had been able to afford to purchase a painting by Guston. Quite an interesting and certainly original artist, he was bold and brave to create a new style and live by it. In many ways, Guston stands alone.

[@michael4250]

Nah, Picasso did the same thing...gave up ,painting to draw instead...once he could sell anything he made. What a loss, in both cases.

[@KpxUrz5745]

@@michael4250 Not sure how you mean that. In any case, I must admire Picasso about 1000 times as much as Guston. There simply has not been anyone who could draw as well as Picasso unless we go back to Degas and further back in time.

[@drebugsita]

@@KpxUrz5745 Of course there has been. Picasso was great but also over-hyped.

[@KpxUrz5745]

@@drebugsita It's unclear which other artists you may think could draw as well as Picasso. I am not speaking about what I would call "adequate illustrative ability", but about draftsmanship of real true artistic quality such as the great masters of drawing had. Amongst whom I would include Picasso. I noticed literally hundreds of art videos here, for instance, which revere John Singer Sargent. However, his abilities as a draftsman (painter, too!) are so mundane and insignificant that he does not even appear on the same measuring stick. And so, I suspect the same is true about almost any other artist that can be named. I am not saying that artists who cannot draw as well as Picasso cannot be deemed good artists, because there are other measures of good art. For example, the artistic psychological insights of a Giacometti. I will add that deKooning was quite a talented and classically trained draftsman, so he ranks highly in my book. There are just not many artists anywhere near the draftsmanship abilities found in Picasso.

[@cynthiamadrid1430]

As an artist, thank You for sharing, A new way to be inspired, Amazing what one shoe can do!

[@casteretpollux]

Thank you. People are afraid to deal with real anti-racist art. I'm very glad to have seen your Lloyd photo and paintings. Wish I could see your and Guston's work 'face to face'.

[@vandolmatzis8146]

Really excited to see an artist engaging with Guston work in an honest way.

[@raineterno8370]

Cool to see the relationship between your work and Guston's style. I too am an artist inspired by Philip's work, dealing with Racists in today's society. Thanks!

[@Kylealexander15]

Amazing

[@davidwilliams7935]

Very nice.

[@michael4250]

Painting with outlines is drawing, not painting. It is a language of cartoonists, not painters. When Picasso stopped painting and became a cartoonist was not unlike Guston becoming a cartoonist. In cartooning, the SUBJECT Matter means everything and crumbles without it. Some people just need words to their music.

[@drebugsita]

Extremely reductive but suit yourself if you want to live with those views, they are only your opinions

[@michael4250]

@@drebugsita That is all an artist has, their opinions. That is all any human has, their opinion. Is your opinion so valueless that you can dismiss it so lightly?

[@cynthiamadrid1430]

I disagree...... I am painting within My drawing on one Large canvas at present, some of the subjects are a painting within The painting. Gaston was a Cartoonist but also a painter.... ART IS .......HOW YOU SEE IT.

[@michael4250]

@@cynthiamadrid1430 Don't worry, it is just a viewpoint...and a simplistic one at that. it is about where the STRUCTURE of the image comes from. Shape, when determined by outline, is a specific visual "language" with well established conventions...called "cartooning". Not "comics". Precursor sketches for pictorial content frequently use this language to quickly capture shape and placement in a composition, which it does...but very little else. Outlineing provides the absolute LEAST information of a shape it describes. of any visual convention. That impoverishment is why it is held in low regard. A smiley face is not a portrait.

[@Duffyartwork]

@@michael4250I can understand what you’re saying. I do enjoy what outlines can add, but the image becomes very static and still. As someone that has always used outlines(growing up on cartoons), I’m ready to set them aside and let the image breathe more