Driver's View Tram 82 Moonee Ponds to Footscray Melbourne

[@brucewilliams8714]

Memories. Used to take this tram, in the early 1960s, to and from Footscray station and Maribyrnong High School (College). I also remember the four-wheel "rattlers" trams from the station to Williamstown Road, and to Ballarat Road. A noticeable change is the residential development on the site of the former Defence Department ammunition works at the top end of Gordon Street. Thanks for this.

[@TheLostProbe]

1:28 I'm guessing this dude's never driven in Melbourne before 😂 we really need more designated tramways...

[@scottyerkes1867]

Smooth and quick. The private right of way really offered speed. Thanks Tressteleg1👌💚

[@tressteleg1]

There had been a quite independent Tramway radiating in several directions from Footscray Station, but most of it closed I think in the 1950s. Nevertheless it was during war time to help workers get to the munitions factory somewhere in the region, probably Maribyrnong, that a connection was laid from the Route 57 to some point on the remaining line.

[@justsmallstuff4994]

Absolutely amazing footage love it

[@noddy8607]

Not the most attractive part of Melbourne but an interesting ride and shows some of the complexity of the Melbourne tram system. Very enjoyable and thanks for posting.

[@tressteleg1]

😊👍

[@TheLostProbe]

as a person who used to live in Moonee Ponds and regularly took the tram down this route... yeah you're right it's not the most attractive part of Melbourne 😆

[@ricardoaraozmoldes3970]

No será atractivo ese distrito de Melbourne, pero a mí me gustó, y espero visitar pronto esa bella ciudad australiana. Saludos desde Tucumán, Argentina😊🇦🇷👋👍

[@tressteleg1]

@ricardoaraozmoldes3970 I am happy that you liked it. Parts of the 82 actually look fairly similar to other lines, while going past the back of the factories obviously is not too common. Being a big system, yes there is variety, and if you get here one day I am sure you would enjoy it. But coming this far, it would also be a pity not to spend some time in Sydney, while the tramways in Adelaide and my local Gold Coast line also have their tramway attractions. Greetings from the Gold Coast!

[@peterausfranken]

The tram driver likes his bell😂

[@tressteleg1]

Some do. I was never afraid to use it. Normally one ding departing a stop. More as required.

[@firstfreeone]

Richard, best tram run yet, and and old tram to boot, not a "newer track worm".

[@tressteleg1]

😊👍

[@aussiejeff8391]

Great vid, did not know that tram route existed.

[@tressteleg1]

Not all routes go to the city 😄. This is the 82.

[@darylcheshire1618]

I was riding a W class tram towards Footscray when it encountered a failed W class, an inspector drove our tram pushing the failed tram not carrying passengers all the way to Footscray terminus. There were men waiting with copper wedges on the end of wooden poles, who poked them under the failed tram. The failed tram was able to be driven to the (presumably) Essendon depot. I assume the line breaker had tripped and the copper wedges enabled the tram to be driven under it’s own power. Possibly in a limp home mode. With no inspectors these days, they probably have to use the E10 recovery truck. I forget what they are called.

[@tressteleg1]

Once after a very big afternoon storm flooded trams around 1988, an Inspector asked me to push another disabled W using my W from the route 12 terminus at Saint Kilda all the way back to South Melbourne depot. So I know what you mean. The stick you describe would in fact be used when a line breaker for some reason or other refused to close giving power to the motors. I’m pretty certain I saw one a couple of times.

[@tressteleg1]

I missed the last bit of your comment. I think that somebody can be dispatched from a depot or elsewhere if minor intervention is required on a line. When a tram is disabled, the large breakdown wagon whose radio call sign is R10, and simply referred to by that Callsign, is sent out to get the tram shifted.

[@darylcheshire1618]

@@tressteleg1 On an RTA tour on a B class tram, I got to look at this large thick diary style book, in it were the incidents about this tram, presumablly every tram has such a book. Common problems were inverter failures and every so often in big red letters were the words “Brought in by E10”, which I assume the tram disgraced itself and had to be towed in.

[@tressteleg1]

@@darylcheshire1618 If each tram now has its own log book, that has happened since I left there in 1994. And the truck is R10.

[@Lilwacomintos]

Ah love the route 82, Take it frequently to Highpoint SC, it is unfortunately the furthest (i believe) a tram can go in the west.

[@tressteleg1]

👍😊 Regarding going further west, the simple fact is that the train ride city to Footscray only takes a few minutes, but it’s a long slow roundabout trip by tram. There used to be local trams radiating out from Footscray, but these were closed somewhere around 1960. Obviously they just did not carry enough passengers.

[@darylcheshire1618]

I wish the route ran into Highpoint, there is still a lengthy walk to Highpoint from that stop.

[@tressteleg1]

@darylcheshire1618 A Highpoint diversion has been mentioned occasionally, but nothing ever came of it.

[@gjj96910]

Cute!

[@tressteleg1]

😊👍

[@luizaugustoramos2520]

A very interesting route! I suppose the quietest on the network for drivers. They must beg to get permanently assigned to Rt 82 - not sure it works this way, does it? Great video! Thanks for sharing with us.

[@tressteleg1]

Ha ha ha ha Ha! Last years trip to Melbourne, I tried to do this same run late on a Saturday afternoon when it was wet. There were traffic jams everywhere like you would not believe. This one happened to be a quiet weekday afternoon and even then I think soon after leaving Moonee Ponds there was a bit of a lineup to get through the traffic lights. It was like that everywhere on the Saturday trip which was so bad I decided not to post it.

[@luizaugustoramos2520]

@@tressteleg1 I get it, being mostly a residential area, traffic tends to jam on Saturdays given it's the day people go out to sort their personal stuff.

[@tressteleg1]

@@luizaugustoramos2520 Yes and the narrow streets at both ends of the line cannot handle the volume of traffic.

[@radic888]

Thank you. Could you tell us the date this was filmed?

[@tressteleg1]

February this year.

[@radic888]

@@tressteleg1 Thank you.

[@stepfordclass730]

Which tram route has the fastest speed limit (like route 96 or something)

[@tressteleg1]

The maximum tram speed anywhere is 60 km/h and in fact they can’t go much faster anyway. I expect that every route would have that speed limit at least somewhere along the way.

[@stepfordclass730]

@@tressteleg1 ok 👍

[@vahonenko]

16:48 hate hate hate. Unfortunately, in my part of the world, there are plenty of car drivers like this, too.

[@tressteleg1]

Yes, and there is never a cop around when you need one… And assuming they would be interested in that ‘harmless’ behaviour. Obviously the tram driver was watching in his mirror and did not open the doors until the car was gone.

[@vahonenko]

@@tressteleg1 Last year, I was getting off the tram, and right when I stepped on the sidewalk, a car passed on full speed behind my shoulders. And there was also an old lady getting off the tram. If that lady got off a couple seconds earlier, the car would definitely hit her. And I can't blame the tram driver for opening the doors, because behind that stop, the street has a long and slight curve, and another tram was passing in the opposite direction at the moment, so the driver of "my" tram couldn't have seen that "flying" car neither in the right mirror nor the left one.

[@tressteleg1]

@@vahonenko Well that would be quite scary. When riding in Melbourne, it amazes me the number of people who step off a tram without even looking to see if a car might be coming. And as you say, a slight curve can limit a lot the amount of warning time.

[@dallelassaad5883]

What route is this

[@tressteleg1]

That’s what happens when things are rushed! I have added 82 to the title.

[@darylcheshire1618]

It’s the only route that doesn’t run to Melbourne. I don’t know if they run route 9 any more which connected two lines via “The Hump”. I rode the 82 route often as I (pessimistically) expected it to be closed, it was too much of a good thing.

[@tressteleg1]

@darylcheshire1618 I think you have forgotten about the 78 which runs from Prahran to Kew along Chapel and Church Streets. The Hump connection was last run in the early 1990s.

[@darylcheshire1618]

@@tressteleg1 Yes I did forget about 78. I loved the old hump, it rose out of the ground. You can see this in the “Malcolm” movie when they make their getaway on the fake tram. The modern hump is more gradual. Was the old hump single track?

[@tressteleg1]

@@darylcheshire1618 Yes it used to be single track. Made double a long time ago because tramways were sick of head on crashes when the warning signal of an approaching tram either failed to work, or more likely a driver did not look at it.

[@JuliansTrainsandGames]

Film date?

[@tressteleg1]

February this year.

[@JuliansTrainsandGames]

@@tressteleg1 Nice. I would also like to get updated on stop 50 on the route which is having works done around it right now.

[@tressteleg1]

@@JuliansTrainsandGames Well I live on the Gold Coast, so hopefully somebody a lot closer can help you.

[@JuliansTrainsandGames]

@@tressteleg1 Do u get many footages of the Glink trams there?

[@tressteleg1]

Here is a link to them all. Is there any particular reason for asking to see these as I note your KZbin name. Gold Coast Trams/Light Rail kzbin.info/aero/PLLtOIHp49XNChPr3pQV6NSGE67BlWJ3oL

[@azurecorviknight4189]

Wait, modern trams cannot do 7 second stops?... IM BLAMING THE DOOR DELAY.

[@tressteleg1]

Nope, because of slow moving doors, time delays, warning sounds before closure etc. 7 secs I pretty good. So much for progress.

[@No_Use_For_A_Name]

Why cant all tram lines be like this? Get em off the roads and you have a winner. Haha. No, but i understand the want for light rail. Public transport should help to de-congest. But as long as you have the increasingly high volume of traffic on the roads, its a nightmare. Trams get stuck in traffic too, so its not just "its bad for cars". I lived on Riversdale road for a while. It used to take me half an hour to get out of the drive way, mainly because of trams holding things up. Then to get home i had to do these weird left circle loops because you cant turn right because of trams. If trams made the commute a lot quicker and easier, i would do it. But for that particular trip, going from Hawthorn to Greensborough, there wasnt any real easy way on public transport, so car it was. And trams made it a nightmare.

[@tressteleg1]

You sound like a typical motorist who blames the trams for all the traffic problems. In the past, there was little road traffic while the trams were not much less frequent than today. It’s a massive increasing car ownership that is clogging the roads, not the occasional tram. The year before I recorded this run on a wet Saturday afternoon and I simply could not use it because the tram was mostly caught up in traffic jams for much of the video. Anyway you complain, but what’s your alternative? Put on buses? Obviously you don’t realise that when tramlines close, very many tram passengers refused to catch the buses so drove their cars to work. That’s what happened in Sydney. Just wait for the next transport strike and you’ll see how much worse the roads are clogged.

[@No_Use_For_A_Name]

@tressteleg1 yeah, I even basically eluded to the increase in traffic. I know. Cars are the problem. I know, I'm not denying that. But the problem is, the public transport system isn't good enough to get people out of the cars. So instead you have roads clogging up with cars, and then you have trams also to deal with, that sliws everything down even more. If the system was better, people would get out of their cars. You sound like the typical internet know it all who doesn't really read comments, but needs to throw your weight around anyway.

[@tressteleg1]

@@No_Use_For_A_Name I find your comment offensive and see no point in commenting further to you.

[@No_Use_For_A_Name]

@tressteleg1 cool. Sounds good. Obviously not worth my time.

[@kilowagmagnusson4590]

Please don't edit out the stops; it's relaxing watching these videos and pauses are good just like in music. I wish that all your large cities had trams so that you could make more videos of them. Please tell them to build more trams, okay?

[@tressteleg1]

Sorry, but that is not something I intend to change. Most people have limited time, and attention spans as well. My average view time is under 8 minutes, so they might as well see something happening, not spending over a minute sometimes watching boring motor cars go past. I you want unedited video, check out Schony747.

[@hobog]

I like that you note how many seconds get cut out, so the viewer still gets an indication of the real ride time@@tressteleg1

[@tressteleg1]

@hobog That’s why I do it. Cut out the boring bits, but give the info for serious fans to know how long the trip was, and also facilitate working out how much time is spent/wasted stopped.

[@roh5876]

Judging by the price of petrol at the servo, this must have been filmed a while ago.

[@tressteleg1]

In February this year.