Adelaide has the worst traffic signals for trams. The private right of way is a pleasure. Good speed. No annoying traffic iights. Thanks Tresseleg1😀💚
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
The private right away start of life as a steam railway so the tradition of railway style level crossings has fortunately remained. Unfortunately the same attitude was not adopted with street running.
@jamesbradley7306 Жыл бұрын
Another great driver's view, Tressteleg. Keep those traffic engineers thinking!
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
I have long believed that for 80 or more years, Melbourne traffic light programmers have been perfecting the art of delaying trams as much as they can get away with, and most definitely successfully fighting any moves to give trams traffic light priority. I don’t expect them to change their tune any time soon, and as Adelaide seems to be little brother, they won’t do anything different, I believe.
@0adamlaslett0 Жыл бұрын
Ah my home town. Live in Hobart now but miss Adelaide. ❤
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
I guess you must mean missing the 40+° days 😆. It was actually quite warm when I was there, but not enough to worry me…
@wence25games893 ай бұрын
Possibly the best-structured tram line in Australia!
@tressteleg13 ай бұрын
Maybe, but the total lack of traffic light priority, even lacking extra 7 second T lights between phases is the worst in Australia.
@rickn501s Жыл бұрын
It does seem that your traffic engineers (or technicians) need some education. Public conveyances should always receive priority over personal transportation. Excessively long traffic signals are a genuine nuisance and contribute to frustration which may translate to accidents. Thanks for the ride and for removing the unnecessary delays.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Adelaide is quite a small Tramway compared with Big Brother Melbourne, so I suppose it natural that Adelaide should turn to Big Brother for Tramway expertise. However in Melbourne while the traffic lights have no tram priority, they do at least slip in 7 second T lights between traffic light phases at most locations. This does not happen in Adelaide. The T light appears just once in each cycle making it worse than Melbourne, and that’s saying a lot. In general, the new tramways in Sydney, Canberra, and Gold Coast have traffic lights which essentially interrupt road traffic flow and change in favour of trams as they approach each intersection. Clearly this gives a much better journey time. I am not surprised you like me editing out stationary times. 👍
@jamesbradley7306 Жыл бұрын
I wrote to the Transport Minister after my last two visits commenting on the woeful tram transit times in the inner city. No response - also woeful.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
When I have nothing better to do, I also intend to write to them about the woeful information on all sorts of things with the transport system at least involving tourists. I made a snap decision to visit Adelaide in February while staying in Melbourne. There is a bus stop just a few minutes walk from the interstate train terminus but it’s no longer possible to purchase tickets from the driver. There is a railway station not terribly far away but there seems to be no ticket sales facilities at any stations which is a sick joke. Luckily an acquaintance brought in a couple of tickets to get me to my accommodation by bus. The suburban ticket retailers are mostly newsagents, and we all know what time of day they shut, long before the Melbourne train gets in. Information at bus stops was largely non-existent and so a disgrace. No wonder tourists don’t go to that place. There is nothing to help them use public transport. It’s just a system for the locals if they are persistent enough.
@dazza0485 Жыл бұрын
I love Adelaide and it’s tram system. But can some please tell me why Adelaide’s trams seem so slow and speed restricted even on relatively new rails compared to Melbourne and other tramways? Almost every set of points or bend in the track Adelaide’s trams seem to do 10-20kmh.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
That’s what happens to tramways these days. ‘Experts’ think that drivers are not bright enough to work out sensible curve and other speeds, so set speed limits based on their conservative guesswork, not actual experience. And as I said in the video, traffic lights for trams are even worse than Melbourne’s, and that is saying something!
@MrSuperleobros Жыл бұрын
Light rail in Sydney CBD is the same. There's really no reasons for them to go slow but 'experts' don't realize that it's the pedestrians that have to adapt to trams not the other way around.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
At least most tram intersections in Sydney now have traffic light priority. As for pedestrians, years ago before ‘dumb phones’ in Germany, probably Mannheim, at a tram fan convention a tramway official told us that they found that the FASTER trams went thought their pedestrian mall, the LESS accidents they had.
@tonymccarthy6713 Жыл бұрын
I used to live at Glenelg. I drove then because I worked at the Airport (shift work).
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Understood. The line is not much use to someone needing to go to the airport.
@VoightHank31410 ай бұрын
Damn it's been a long time since I haven't been on the tram its been 3 years now. It's really Sad 😢 for me. Now i live in Brisbane.
@tressteleg110 ай бұрын
You could always get your fix by popping down to the Goldie take a ride on my local tram which does not spend hours stuck at traffic lights like the trams in the streets of Adelaide.
@tcpnetworks Жыл бұрын
We need a few hundred KM more of light rail and rail lines.... We really need a line to Virginia/Two-Wells to serve the new communities being built there.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Plans for extra lines around the city at least, I think were proposed by a Labor government a number of years ago, but when the Liberals got in, that was the end of the plans and unfortunately when Labor returned to power, those extensions remained quietly forgotten. Much the same happened in Perth as well.
@gregorymiller7828 Жыл бұрын
love your editing😊
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
😊😊👍👍. I just remove things from my videos that annoy me about other people‘s videos.
@1044fan Жыл бұрын
Great video 👍🏻 I have been in Glenelg in 1998.
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Well it sounds like you are due for another visit. There has been a lot of addition to the system in the city since then, as you will have seen from the start of this video.
@DooverLackey Жыл бұрын
This run is basically a mini train track! Would be a very enjoyable drive
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
You don’t realise how true your words are. From Glenelg to Adelaide Station started life as…..a steam railway in 1880, converted to trams in 1929. Personally as a former tram driver, going up and down the same line X times each day would soon become quite boring. Doing a few trips in between Botanic Garden and Entertainment Centre would break the monotony a little.
@MartintheTinman11 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1I drove the H type Trams for the STA from '89 to ' 93. A shorter track, Victoria Square to Mosley Square. It wasn't boring at all but we actually had interaction with the travelling public.
@robbieberry9700 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed the ride with you 😊
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
😊👍
@robertnorman64438 ай бұрын
How were you able to get a camera in to the drivers compartment
@tressteleg18 ай бұрын
It’s not. It’s against the window behind the driver.
@classaventra7 ай бұрын
This tram is maybe similar to the Tram in Melbourne
@tressteleg17 ай бұрын
Same builder as the C1 and C2 Citadis.
@classaventra8 ай бұрын
To be fair Alston citadis 302 motor sounds good I guess
@tressteleg18 ай бұрын
Maybe…
@knightman1970 Жыл бұрын
i have never been to adelaide it was interesting to watch this seeing a different city i am used to seeing sydney all the time i noticed the ferris wheel when you got to glenelg is there some sort of fun park there?
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
I’m pleased you liked it. And yes, there is a mini Luna Park on the water’s edge a little to the right of the tram at terminus.
@MartintheTinman11 ай бұрын
Glenelg is nothing like it used to be. They levelled most of the Fun Park that did exist there
@tressteleg111 ай бұрын
@@MartintheTinman sounds like a typical Clown (town) Council. Would not know an attraction if it bit them on the bum. There’s not a real lot to do in Adelaide and annihilating one of the few attractions, and a fun one, defies logic.
@MartintheTinman11 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 they sold the Land to Developers and everyone made a fortune except for the ordinary folk and now it's absolutely horrendous if you remember what it was like. You can go and have a good day if you've never been there before because it's good but it was great
@MartintheTinman11 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 Adelaide looks way better than it did. The whole rail infrastructure has been fully revamped. I've been living in Victoria for 24 years and Adelaide is so much better but they ruined Glenelg. They made it really nice because the Pier Hotel was woeful, in the nineties but then they just went nuts in this century
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
good vid
@tressteleg19 ай бұрын
😊👍
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 why did you say so???
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
Anyway 302s Are my fav
@tressteleg19 ай бұрын
@@classaventra I simply acknowledged that you liked my video. The 302s are OK but Adelaide drivers prefer the Bombardiers as they toss the drivers around at speed less than the 302s.
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 ah i see but im 11
@stephiianiemay80599 ай бұрын
Exit on the left in the direction ⬅️ of travel.
@tressteleg19 ай бұрын
We must have been smarter in the past as we did not need a voice to tell us how to get off. It’s just more unnecessary noise pollution, still not as bad as my local Gold Coast tram.
@marcelmartin74243 ай бұрын
Do the trams really drive that slowly or does it only look like that? In Berlin i got only 1 Minute for every stop including passengers changing. We drive 50kmh on the street.
@tressteleg13 ай бұрын
The street section can be a bit slow. But on the reservation speeds of around 60km/hour are possible.
@marcelmartin74243 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 ah, thank you for your response. 60kmh is also the highest speed in Berlin. Greetings to Australia!
@tressteleg13 ай бұрын
No Problem. 60 km/h is a reasonable speed. I have been to Berlin a few times, the last being in 1992. While I think of it, the Adelaide Bombardier trams were a follow-on order from Frankfurt D. As for maximum tram speeds, my local tramway is the Gold Coast Light Rail. The 7km from Good Coast University Hospital to Helensvale railway station is nearly all run at 70km/h as well as about 1.5km further south. That first long section is on open ballast reservation. Some of the videos in the link below may be of interest. Separately I will send a link to one of my Berlin videos. Gold Coast Trams/Light Rail kzbin.info/aero/PLLtOIHp49XNChPr3pQV6NSGE67BlWJ3oL
@tressteleg13 ай бұрын
@@marcelmartin7424 A Berlin video of mine. Becoming a Tram Driver Berlin 1992 + Freight Locos kzbin.info/www/bejne/hpC3oq2Mr9WhnKM And greetings from Australia 😄
@marcelmartin74243 ай бұрын
@@tressteleg1 oh my god. What an incredible and interesting coincidence! I have to take a closer look at that. I already have a lot of questions. But I think there are too many for this platform. I want to take a look at your videos in peace first and then get back to you, if I may. Liebe Grüße von Marcel
@paulwilliams520811 ай бұрын
(6:00) how can it be "32 secs out" when first we're riding 207B then 206b
@tressteleg111 ай бұрын
Because of the angle of the sun shining in drivers’ eyes at different times of the day, they had to put the sunshade down which was no use to me, thus the change of trams. But there was an overlap with both raw clips so I used the paused time of I think the first tram, then continued with the second. Certainly the 32 secs is authentic with one of those trams.
@summerwind197411 ай бұрын
💯 👍 lol
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
Why 302s are only top speed of 80 compare to 305s 100
@tressteleg19 ай бұрын
Because like all low floor tram in Australia except the E class which have real bogies, they are only collections of 4 wheel trams with long overhangs and are liable to wobble themselves off the rails if going too fast. From memory in Adelaide they don’t go faster than 60km/h. If you live there, go for a ride and watch the speedo. The old H cars went faster. My Gold Coast tram does 70 in some sections.
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
I’m in sydney
@tressteleg19 ай бұрын
@@classaventra You have probably noticed that the speeds are pretty dismal everywhere. It used to be 80 through the Glebe tunnel on the L1 but that has gradually been cut back and I think is only 60 at the moment. As for the L2 and L3, there is only a short patch as fast as 60. Some idiot to put a 50 K limit along Anzac Parade so have thus limited the L3 trams to that maximum speed as well.
@classaventra9 ай бұрын
You mean 50000
@peterausfranken Жыл бұрын
A city where the trams have more red lights than in Melbourne. Now we see how great Melbourne is😂
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Not really. Melbourne is terrible, Adelaide is simply more terrible when it comes to traffic light priority for trams.
@johnperry9357 Жыл бұрын
prefer the H''s
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Yes they had character, but it seems that as soon as the new generation of trams reached Adelaide, management wanted nothing to do with H cars. For the first few years after the first extension to think it was Citywest opened, there was massive overcrowding on the trams Although they still had H class at the depot, these were never used to help relieve this problem. Instead people were just jammed in like sardines until the ex-Madrid Citadis trams arrived. 2H cars were fully overhauled for use weekends etc but they saw almost no use and were soon taken off the property.
@MartintheTinman11 ай бұрын
I drove H type Trams from '89 to '93. It was fantastic. The best part was that we had a Restaurant Tram 378 during my time there
@tressteleg111 ай бұрын
They were interesting trams to drive. While the ‘original’ drivers were still on the job, those driving when the Adelaide tramway was largely complete, it was not hard to get a ‘sly drive’ at night. I certainly did a few times from 1965 😊. Mastering the brakes took a bit of practice.
@peregrinemccauley5010 Жыл бұрын
It's freaky how people just appear out of thin air and go about their daily business . Is this evidence of wormholes or stargates ? Spooky .
@tressteleg1 Жыл бұрын
Then you would like to watch boring minutes when the tram is not moving? I guess not but the ghosts suddenly disappearing and appearing can be fun.