Trevor Penick from O-Town on E!'s Cash & Burn: Celebrity Money Meltdowns (2009)

[@JRohrer04]

I met Trevor last night in Scottsdale... Probably one of the nicest guys you could ever meet.

[@otownweb]

You're both welcome guys :) I'm glad you liked it.

[@kursk_kuku141]

I enjoyed it, after watching “The Boy Band Con” and “The Hitman From Pop to Prison.” For the guys that didn’t get accepted to any boy bands in “Making The Band” are the lucky ones. Years later, everyone either left and/or sue Lou Pearlman cause of the contract. Worst of all was that Lou Pearlman was a con man, and orchestrated a Ponzi scheme. Plus there’s also sexual allegations and the worst paycheck the boy bad received.

[@PoshMillyT]

"I am doing it for free actually" LMBO

[@jellygurl27]

I remember watching this before O-Town announced their reunion in 2015. Since 2015, 4 of them have now been touring and I am sure making good money now. I enjoy going to their shows. Glad you all decided to get back together.

[@rayray.0]

He's worth $5 million and has a beautiful home. They are all millionaires now. Of course they'd be worth more had Perlman not screwed them over but I'm glad they have something.

[@dontaescisson7472]

Why are there only 4 members left ?

[@rayray.0]

When the group got back together, Ashley Angel decided not to rejoin with them.

[@seal3081]

i remember when ikaika told the other guys that the contract was bad. The members just laughed and made fun ikika and his brother behind his back. If the group just came together with their lawyers they possibly could have gotten a better deal.

[@freewilliam93]

No i dont think so....

[@misterbobby8913]

#Ikaika was Right

[@JamminOnThe1]

Lou Pearlman screwed over all his bands. He didn’t understand the concept that the talent needs to get paid for their work. He believed that because he put the band together that he deserved the money. Which is why all the boy bands sued and left him. People that successful don’t like being exploited.He was a completely corrupt and sociopathic a-hole and destroyed many lives.

[@chrismale9976]

He was right

[@FRITO88]

thanks for putting this video up. I thought I've seen every o-town video ever. BUT i had not seen this one.

[@laminage]

What Lou did to them was no different than what happened to BSB and N'Sync. Lou Pearlman spent a lot o time and Money Investing in them and when they "Did" make what little they did Lou took it from them saying he had to make a return on The Investment. I remember when Ashley Angel asked "How Much" they were worth, but instead of getting an Answer he whined about why are they asking him this, don't they trust him, didn't he do enough for them, etc. Eden's Crush got only Paid $10,000.00 and knowing that what other projects they did were "Owned" by The WB now known as The CW.

[@ventssolaire]

Wow, thank you. Thanks for the truth

[@XelaTN]

The 2 album is very good

[@danthemanbardo]

im doing a project and this and lou situation with his bands this vid helps alot

[@DirrrtyVanillaRice]

I thought so. I was rewatching Making the Band episodes, and I remember a few contract themed episodes from Season 1, with the Trans Con contract, and Season 2 when Lou tried to convince them to sign his "One Sixth Member Deal". Terrible double dipping (to say the least) from Lou. In that season one episode I was referring to, they signed off for about $40,000 TOTAL, which meant that they would split that five ways for their first album...

[@prettyprincessmochi]

he still looked cute in 2009, but then in 2013.....he looked old. what happened in 4 yrs?

[@MegaMarie]

He still looks cute to me. Just different hairdo and goatee style lol

[@dlouis42]

Life girl

[@MegaIanlee]

stress, drugs, regret

[@marlzz8126]

Probably drugs

[@AK-rx6hv]

Lack of makeup

[@DirrrtyVanillaRice]

@DirrrtyVanillaRice (continued...) unless they renegotiated their first contract, as Ikaika had alluded too, they were screwed from the get go. Such a shame for five guys that made such a great impact for all of us back in 1999-2003. I looked up to these guys, and I probably would've been ignorant too had I been given the opportunity that they had. (Not to mention if I was old enough to audition. :-P)

[@laminage]

On US Soil the Boy Band/Girl Group Market pretty much ended in 2002 but in The UK it's like an assembly line where they create one Boy Band/Girl Group after another.

[@WAlkONRebel]

That is awful man to those people in the industry behind close doors they are just laughing all the way to the bank while those guys starve its crazy.

[@misterbobby8913]

Yep

[@usakorjb03]

If u don't kno, lou did the same shit to n'sync. N'sync took lou to court to keep their name when they left J Records

[@misterbobby8913]

Nah, they didn't leave J records, they left TransCon. They stayed with J records (Jive records).

[@chatlos]

thanks for postin yur page

[@MrBooBeeDoo]

I dont understand. During the first season of Making the Band, they went back and forth on the contract with their lawyers and Transcontinental until they were happy with it and signed it. So how the fuck did the contract still end up screwing them?

[@tamara_diamonds422]

ShaiyaStudios they did not read the fine print.

[@laminage]

@@tamara_diamonds422 It's been happening since the beginning of time. For example, when The Jackson Five signed with Motown in 1968 they were still "Minors". Jackie was 17, Tito was 15, Jermaine was 14 while Marlon was 11 and Michael was 9 going on 10. Their Father Joe signed without reading The Fine Print for which he and his Family would pay a high price for. When they left Motown in 1975 Nine Months before their contract expired, they first got sued for 5 Million then 25 Million when a representative from TV Guide put a Picture of all Six Jackson Brothers to promote their Summertime Variety Series. They also were told that when the Contract was signed they gave away the rights to The Name Jackson Five. In 1981 after Six Years in Litigation, The Jacksons paid Motown back $500,000.00 and they gave up the Jackson Five Catalogue. The same thing happened with Florence Ballard of The Supremes, and The Temptations and Miracles had to fight to keep their name when they left as well thanks to Smokey Robinson who told Berry don't fight a losing battle, if they aren't happy here let them go.

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

Pearlman and Clive Davis....jesus christ. At least a couple of these poor kids lost their innocence to those two monsters.

[@musiclover_kb4913]

Hey dude, saw and replied to your comment under the trailer for the Boy Band con documentary. How exactly is Clive Davis a monster? Just curious because I've never heard anyone talk about him in a negative light

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

@@musiclover_kb4913 - It's a well protected secret. KZbin his name and see what pops up. If music has a #metoo moment like Hollywood did, his name will be front and center.

[@musiclover_kb4913]

@@CoolHandLukeDuke oh okay I'll definitely keep that in mind thanks for the heads up

[@musiclover_kb4913]

@@CoolHandLukeDuke correct me if I'm wrong but I think you also said you met Diddy and the that you found him creepy as well? Am I right or am I wrong?

[@CoolHandLukeDuke]

@@musiclover_kb4913 - 100% correct. Even further than creepy...just a sinister energy.

[@schwanhumes323]

im curious how much money they actually made, like a round figure

[@PoshMillyT]

Jail time!?! Oh Man, that's crazy!! Was it worth it? Prob not! I don't remember their songs at all because NSynce and Backstreet Boys and ANY other pop star at the time was already runnin the game. Crazy. Best of Luck to them all, I wish I knew em like that.

[@mikekaraoke]

Even so they still had hit singles + albums, Wether or not BSB or Nsync had more airplay etc

[@you2449]

3:10 --- LOL, what the hell is up with Erik ?

[@ksmurfer]

explains the reunion?

[@AciddReign]

they were so talented...if they around the mid 90s they would do a lot better than the backstreet boys

[@mikekaraoke]

ummm no

[@fcanoso]

Maybe with Backstreet boys songs, vocally both bands have the same talent, Jacob is good as Aj, Dan is good as Brian and Ashley is good as Nick, i don´t see big differences between they in terms of vocal hability, the big difference is the songs.

[@shargreen9950]

@@fcanoso um no they don’t 😭

[@sylentknyte]

Apparently one guy in every band "took it" for Lou. Based on 1:43 I could take an educated guess who it was...

[@linegenrou]

Looooooooooooooooooool

[@MichelleArielis]

Not kidding I always thought it was him and when u pointed out 1:43 it confirmed what I suspected

[@fatimahaidara5064]

sylentknyte wait he did what???

[@ElAlacranDelNorte]

I would have probably done the same thing if I was in their shoes. It really sucks, they were a group of super talented guys & It's extremely disappointing that they didnt get the same opportunity that BSB & Nsync did. @TNT905 makes a good point. Timing is key when it comes to this MONEY HUNGRY industry. But they DESERVE a second SHOT!

[@katzjoy1]

Too bad that they dealt with Lou.. What he did to BSB, he also did to these boys.. Anyways, I think OTown is making comeback as they got their official Twitter page.. Hopefully they start to create music again. They have talents.

[@ogijuankanobi779]

Wow I did not know any of this had happened 25 years man

[@QuadrantBottomHalf]

Juan Johnson Even murders got less time than Lou.

[@90sfanforever]

@usakorjb03 He did the same to The Backstreet Boys, Nsync, and LFO. Every boyband he has ever created or worked with except one ended up suing him.

[@Kyosuke700]

not just o town also back street boys to and how come nsync never talk about what went on Lou just O-town and Back Street Boys

[@musiclover_kb4913]

Well Chris Kirkpatrick and Lance Bass have no problem talking about it, Joey is never asked about it (nor does he care to bring it up), Justin has occasionally brought it up in passing, and even tweeted his condolences when Lou died, but JC? Oh JC is so dismissive when it comes to Lou, even if Lou's name is mentioned, JC just refuses to talk about it

[@rayray.0]

@@musiclover_kb4913 JC talked about him in lance bass documentary.

[@musiclover_kb4913]

@@rayray.0 Oh I know, and boy was I surprised about that when I saw the documentary. My comment was written 2 years before the documentary came out

[@jenfilm123]

Dan Miller is HOTTEST boy band guy ever! Ay papi! :)

[@kcmark1]

The difference between Lou and Simon is Lou went behind their backs and lied to their faces Lou doesn't have a heart Simon does

[@misterbobby8913]

What did Simon do that was bad? Seems like Simon was actually good.

[@ElAlacranDelNorte]

PS. as for Pearlman... Trevor was right, you reap what you sow. THAT SUCKS for him!! 25 years.

[@laminage]

The UK Girl Group Girls Aloud who were "Created" on The Show Popstars: The Rivals in 2002 didn't get a Good Recording Contract but they were very lucky. They made "Bank" by doing Solo Projects, TV Reality Shows, Concerts, and Endorsements from Kit Kat Bars, Samsung, Perfume and even Eyelashes. They at least walked away with something. Their "Rivals" One True Voice didn't make it. Cheryl Ann Tweedy who is now with Liam Payne of One Direction had Four Number Ones in Girls Aloud and Five Number Ones as a Solo Artist who is now one of the most successful Female Artists in the UK. You may remember her as a Judge for a brief time on The X Factor US.

[@laminage]

If you think what happened with O-Town was bad, check out The UK Documentary The Big Reunion where some of The Hottest Boy Bands/Girl Groups of the 1990's-2000's reunite for a Concert and you see that while some do well. Barrister (Lawyers), Midwife Nurse, Coffee Shop Mogul, Counsellor for Troubled Teens, and The West End (London's Equivalent Of Broadway) some crash hard. Bi-Polarism, Addiction, Homelessness. 3T (The Children Of Tito Jackson) didn't have it as bad as their counterparts but being a "Jackson" didn't always mean Fame let alone Fortune.

[@marlzz8126]

He looks better with the fade or shaved head .

[@truthbesaid101]

Lou Pearlmen has ruined the boy band era 4 ever!!!

[@laminage]

Yes if they had someone like Simon Cowell who worked with his share of Boy Bands in the UK like Five and most notably One Direction things may have been different. Ikika admitted that Lou wanted him to be his "Boy" and he didn't want to. If yuo can check out The Big Reunion from The UK what happened to the Boy Bands like Five, 911, A1 it's devastating. Even when a group of guys from other Boy Bands and even a former Soap Star who wanted to be a Pop Star got together to create a Group called 5th Harmony. They dealt with alot. Homelessness, Addiction, lying about their Sexuality, and Bankrutpcy but they perservered.

[@misscocoababii]

@JRohrer04 what did u say to him?

[@sgcl10658]

Back then we had Lou Pearlman, today we have Simon Cowell. Same shits. Simon may be as greedy as Lou, but he's just as money hungry. I'm starting to see why ppl are against boybands even though I'm a die hard BSB fan. I feel so bad for Otown.

[@mikekaraoke]

Ummmmmmno Simon Cowel was a famous record producer in the mid 80's get it right

[@rayray.0]

"Simon may be as greedy as Lou, but he's money hungry." Isn't greedy and money hungry the same thing?

[@Smyyusuf]

tough.

[@kingdreamz1191]

I dont get it, It is 5 of you, that money will be split you knew this, and the Band, The Lights, The Bus, The Bus driver, the Recording Studio, the manger, YES IT MUST BE PAID for lol lol.. Yet and still you been places you would have ever been, that smart thing would have been to capitalize off of the fame you had. And if it was not for lou! you would have NEVER had ANY of it... keep it real. greed is not just on the manager

[@iamxonelife]

UH... IDK WHAT UR TALKING ABOUT BUT DANITY KANE IS THE MOST SUCCESSFUL OF ALL MAKING THE BAND SEASONS, THEY HAD NOT 1, BUT TWO #1 PLATINUM ALBUMS, THEY ARE THE ONLY GROUP EVER TO HAVE THEIR FIRST TWO ALBUMS DEBUT @ #1 AND 3 OUT OF 5 ARE STILL VERY SUCCESSFUL. JUS CLEARIN THAT UP

[@mbur126]

I guess it is true abt lou pearlman money eater thatz wat he dd with bsb n bsb sued hm I feel bad for them Im hopn hez n jail nw

[@mbur126]

N he shd pay the ppl bk

[@justooooo1]

Crank that souja boy!!! Uuuuuuuuuu!!!

[@fcanoso]

And now he is Trevor Penniless

[@BiancaSkyOfficial]

@24Scotian lol

[@Andre.06.07]

@iamxonelife true but at what cost. i can almost gurantee that the money they made went largely to bad boy. musiically diddy is very much like Lou pearlman. you cant market and promote a group like crazy. doesnt mean their rich.

[@Andre.06.07]

@supertaco1995 The thing with otown is that they came into the industry too late. the "boy band" craze was dying down and people started to see it as a gimmick or a joke. Today boy bands are only big in europe. In north america boy band arent even making the typical boy band music. The backstreet boys make a blend of rock and r&b with hint of electro pop. Aside from this, NO ONE from making the band has success. Danity kane, otown, day 26, da band, etc, etc. You cant form a group with strangers

[@bgcrp2005]

Dainty Kane was gonna be big he really messed up with that one they had better chart entries then their peers