Move, Shoot, and Communicate with ATAK (and alternatives)

[@TREXARMS]

OK, the TakCiv site is back up! We're very sorry to have crashed it, but they have returned with more server capacity, an article addressing some of the mistakes in this video, and a new version of ATAK-CIV, which replaces ATAK-PR and re-enables plugin support. Go check it out!

[@CircaSriYak]

Sweet, we need to find out if there's a plugin that allows for the use of cheap radios. If anyone finds that, please report it here so everyone can see. Maybe Isaac can pin the comment.

[@beekydogg]

Love it

[@williamh2637]

I can't get the app it tells me the site is down can you help?

[@hansoak3664]

Please check out the Ulefone Armor 3T Android phones. I am a radio operator and have used one as my EDC phone for a year or so now. The radio mic is WAY to hot to use regularly (I leave the antenna off and in a pack; carry other radios to use) but it is there as an emergency backup UHF transceiver. It also does DMR Tier I. The real magic of this phone is the huge battery and durability. If I get a second phone for mapping, etc, I wouldn't just get any old phone but would buy one of these for a tank with an incredible battery life. It can also be used as a power bank. They run around $350 new. Mine was something like $289~$300 when it was purchased new. (ETA: Look at the link but go directly to Ulefone site for the NEWER version at a cheaper price.) www.amazon.com/Ulefone-Armor-3T-Waterproof-Smartphone/dp/B07JGYPNDQ www.amazon.com/Ulefone-Armor-3WT-Smartphone-Shockproof/dp/B07YXWXXJB BTW: The radio app that comes with the phone is lame but some developer could make an app that gives mic control and does all of the data transfer you need, RIGHT FROM THE PHONE ITSELF. No cables. ... EDIT: I just looked on Ulefone's site and the newest version is the Armor 3WT for $350 and the non-radio version is the 3W for $330.

[@stich1960]

@@hansoak3664 good luck getting it to work with Verizon, also realize this is a Chinese based phone with Chinese custom software (ie crappy and is probably spying on you).

[@kentuckyproud4575]

Issac always has the most interesting topics and speaks it so well.. that and the 6000 words per minute brought on by energy drinks is hard to follow sometimes (Lucas).

[@ace1gun]

Yea he's pretty chill, reminds me of the JBond Tech guy.

[@wisemencompany]

@@ace1gun Issac is cooler than the other side of the pillow. Really enjoy his stuff.

[@GarbageDanks]

It's called Adderall bro.

[@HanzHermannHoppe]

@Joe A Christians can't take Adderall? No one at my church ever told me that!

[@etherealceleste]

anyone else playing this at 2x speed?

[@heavierthanairfilms]

"Sorry about the mess!" *moves a Claymore mine out of the way*

[@fubar1217]

Pesky Claymores....always in the way!

[@samuelcoronel7725]

That's what i thought!!! I'm like: Is that a Claymore?? - must be nothing *Mind dismisses thought.

[@geoffdickey3761]

Yeah noticed that too, love it.

[@tylercraig9273]

That’s a router buddy.

[@roryross3878]

@Anunnaki ITAK which he says doesn't exist anymore...

[@TREXARMS]

It looks like this video crashed the site that was hosting the software. I'll unpin this comment if it comes back up. In the meantime, go download OsmAND+ and don't worry; these files have way of spreading. Can't stop the signal, keep circulating the tapes, etc.

[@jasonwest258]

Yes sir thank you

[@AshGreen359]

Where do I find these files?

[@dPYTHONb]

Thank you guys !!

[@EDDSkitz]

I actually just started working with the CivTAK source code to make it more functional for civilians. Working with people that use the real deal, so I may end up contacting you guys.

[@vazaruspaytonas7017]

Can someone host it as a torrent?

[@somarandtheastronautape6518]

Isaac: a Government: You can't possibly prepare yourself, that should be illegal.

[@DragonInTheBlood76]

LFG AMC

[@GG-ii1uc]

yeah... I really wonder how can u prepare yourself my guy.

[@tylerroe5175]

The amount of passive anarchist aggression in this video is incredible 😂 I love this dude

[@nightcall7398]

Uh...Not quite sure if anarchist is the right word.

[@haizi7179]

@@nightcall7398 that's why he said passive, which honestly i can see it hahahaha. I love it too.

[@Redacted950]

@@nightcall7398 pretty accurate

[@Truthloveliberty]

Anarchist is such a misunderstood word

[@tylerroe5175]

@@nightcall7398 “An absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual.” - Anarchy My comment was mostly a joke but every joke has truth sprinkled in. Anarchy is only a bad thing when a person cannot control themselves. And anyone who disparages anarchist views probably doesn’t possess the will power and morality to adequately control themselves in the absence of a statist threat of violence or harm.

[@augreich]

I like when he says that other countries have turned the internet into a tracking system and not allowing certain communications to go through and "it would never happen here." Smile and a wink...😦

[@inquisitorkryptman7893]

That's why we hate tyranny right

[@bangtang1717]

it already is happening in the US, actually for some time, police can set up scanners and jammers that disable internet access or tract internet and phone communication, the phone communication already happens normally in large cities and the cutting off of communication happens often during protests and during the riots, where police will disable streaming so often times they are less accountable

[@bangtang1717]

and y’know the patriot act

[@CrazyPalidin57]

Fast forward to the end of July 2020 and there's almost a complete censorship of what actual medical doctor's are saying about the effectiveness of Hydroxocloroquine by social media giants who are not Dr's because it may be harmful advice in their non Dr eyes.

[@johnnyfly1236]

@@CrazyPalidin57 Disclaimer: There is no evidence that Hydroxocloroquine is good against Covid19. The trials that were performed did not show a benefit.

[@A7Xguitarplayer0272]

Last Isaac video convinced me to buy a ham radio, looks like I’m getting an android beater phone. I love this kind of content. As much as I love the shooting videos, this is the stuff that really matters.

[@outlawpat8038]

👍🤙🏼

[@h347h]

To be a good infantryman you have to shoot, move and communicate. You should practice movement and shooting as much as you practice shooting.

[@mmafighter1181989]

It ALL matters

[@xSikks]

Go to Takmaps.com you can download the APK from there.

[@CircaSriYak]

Exactly. You might have some buddies with some long arms, and they might even be fit too, but if you're uncoordinated then you're going to be a threat to yourself more than anything.

[@redactedname5038]

ATAKs public version has come a long way. Especially in conjunction with stuff like meshtastic. Would be cool to do an update video.

[@AndrewWisler]

I’m experimenting with ATAK and meshtastic right now. 256 bit encrypted network, real time team comms and information sharing. The weak link is the LoRa modems, but many strengths.

[@robonator2945]

100%, the KZbin algorithm changes recently that mean videos with

[@Gandalf_axtuL]

​@@AndrewWislerCould you send me some links to get a basic understanding of metastatic Bluetooth networks?

[@phoenix4ever367]

​@AndrewWisler meshtastic doesn't support Voice communication. What options are there for Civilian Ad Hoc Radio for voice comms. Or is Baofeng still the goto for cheap short range.

[@phsilverbullet1]

I just rewatched this video and almost drowned in my coffee when he says "not that any private company would ever censor what you say on the internet".

[@geogmz8277]

Same.. 🤣🤣🤣

[@jitt9264]

They are allowed to do that lol. There private

[@FightForFreedom1776]

Dry humor and sarcasm lol

[@danielboatright8887]

Anyone else notice the music st that point.

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

The Feds have been able to jam cell signals in a wide area for many years. State and local LE can do it too. Always remember, EVERYONE is listening if it goes out over the air via RF, voice, digital or otherwise.

[@johnwilbanks6665]

I think the encrypted radio coded signal is a fantastic idea... Would be nice to have instructions on jammers... thier tools can be distorted too..

[@ProbablyTooLoud]

@@johnwilbanks6665 Unfortunately, I can't really comment too much further. Yes, there are methods, but jamming is considered illegal by the FCC, unless they (or similar) are doing it. During emergencies or societal collapse, rules, regulations and laws won't have any real meaning. Until then, proceed with caution and knowledge !

[@johnwilbanks6665]

LoRa is an option. needs no network. Can use incripted passwords. dependable when tied to a ham radio.

[@Roodj1]

John Wilbanks easiest way I can jam a frequency range is the correct array and a more powerful output of power then the transmitters that you need to jam. Or just remove power from the substations, and disable the gens.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

@@johnwilbanks6665 Ham radio IS NOT ALLOWED to use anything encrypted period. That is why it is ham radio, basically open source and compatible with other ham radio gear by not using proprietary equipment, formats and software. If you want encrypted comms you need to look into commercial /public service or military equipment and the appropriate licenses. Ham is a good tool to learn radio comms but once SHTF it is not encouraged to use ham radios and bands for tactical comms since there is virtually no security.

[@PolenarTactical]

Interesting topic and great presentation!

[@alvarocardinale8910]

Manca is that you??? 👀

[@ayushrai2057]

Polenar technical I am fan your videos sir.

[@Salman-qz5jk]

Again the chosen slav

[@breakthechains8362]

Polenar, huge fan of your videos. 👍 Also. This was one of the most informative videos on realtime position communication I've seen. Me and my buddies have been struggling with this because everything is infrastructure dependant. I only had one question. What is that chord you plugged in from your radio to your phone?

[@chipperdrewski]

These videos are seriously the coolest, most informative videos.

[@jasondavis741]

7 month flea and tick collar for less than $10 at Wal-Mart. Put one around your boot. Learned that from my dad. You're welcome from a fellow Vol.

[@joncampo1627]

They drop from trees dude

[@jasondavis741]

@@joncampo1627 True. But it helps big time. Plus it helps with chiggers. Give it a try.

[@Lugghandle]

@@joncampo1627 most of the time they sit on foliage between ankle and shoulder height with their arms extended to latch onto any thing that brushes by.

[@greasysquid1857]

Dude. ATAK is probably the most badass app to get released, I mean tactical support aside, going on groups rides, moving from your house with a convoy, airsoft players, the list could go on.

[@BrendanFoeryMusic]

T Rex is freaking KILLING IT.

[@Juan0481]

Yes they are

[@ctca2403]

Fuck yeah👍

[@jacobscott8600]

Yes now its our duty to not just watch but participate , knowledge is power

[@danduane1413]

Yeah, that was one of the better videos I've seen in quite awhile

[@jopri6356]

No, the meteor is killing it...

[@JohnBlaze505]

We need more Isaac videos, he doesn't sound like a cracked out squirrel

[@Thecarc81]

I couldn't agree more

[@Hkfanboy]

He’s a cult leaders son

[@JohnBlaze505]

@@Hkfanboy he is though, but idc

[@MobileAura]

@@Hkfanboy Wait... HOL up! Am I missing something? Are these guys dad something bad? Please info give me. I was really starting to like them.

[@Hkfanboy]

@@MobileAura yes his dad is a actual cult leader who said men should marry little girls

[@Intellistan]

This is one of the most important videos on youtube. I was down with Trex Arms before, but this just proved the entire philosophy of the company. Absolutely awesome. Thank you all at Trex for being who you are.

[@Akira_Rei]

I think these type of videos that expand on the scope for the community and overall movement is a move in the right direction. It challenges people and makes them more competent in their lives making the country a better place. I an think introduction to medical would also be helpful.

[@aeonikus1]

Amen to that!

[@touge242]

so that's the key to running a successful business. Being so fluent in sarcasm while keeping a serious straight face

[@nikanor8152]

Nobody: TRex Arms: *has a random Claymore sitting on a table*

[@50shadesofcerakote]

"sorry for the mess"

[@ericjpoe]

Looked to me (while yes, a claymore) like a badass wifi radio design. An upside down claymore, with the probes as antenna. Sounds like a nice homebuild to me.

[@randy438]

They make a sidecar that holsters a claymore and a glock 17

[@bishopm4401]

Useless nobody

[@elchuzalongo4339]

@@bishopm4401 why so mad?

[@themightypen1530]

"Obviously that would never happen..." *stares at camera meaningfully* "...in this country." Noooo, that could *never* happen. Thanks for helping us get prepared guys!

[@shatara42]

[ ominous piano intensifies ]

[@Ju5-I-S0m36UY]

[ ominous piano intensifies more ]

[@british1139]

[ ominous piano intensifies even more ]

[@sullygtx9350]

Watching this in Dec 2022...oof

[@awakened9796]

​@@british1139 Ominous Piano starts up again 2 years later.

[@jaketran]

yesssssss more Isaac videos!!

[@isaacbotkintrex]

Jake Trans watches my videos? Awesome!

[@myyoutubename1756]

Your videos are slowly getting more and more untruthful and less worked on.

[@se7046]

Bro aint finna suvive in war😂

[@gilbertohernandez9223]

Very neat stuff, going to definitely look into this.

[@TinkerPrepper]

I am very frugal minded but I buy my gear from you guys, sometimes at a little higher price, in order to keep this fantastic content coming. My money is very well spent at T.Rex Arms

[@patriotarmament7407]

This is exactly what I have in mind and also learned the hard way there’s nothing out there. So I love that you guys are working on finding a solution.

[@Little.R]

This was just the motivation I needed to start working on mobile apps.

[@ikeepgettinbanned5525]

let me know if you find any free educational resources that are good. im trying to get into programming/coding

[@cw3482]

Back when I was enlisted we used atak along with a few other tools from other SOF units. Love the different platforms. This has to be my favorite video from you guys. As a civilian I worked in a R&D lab using the software.

[@TheFlea1987]

Having watched this several times, What you're proposing at the end is exactly what I've been looking for. Was so drawn to ATAK when first hearing about it from Garand Thumb but quickly fell to the wayside after finding out what is needed to utilize it. Now if only I had some friends or a job where this kind of stuff would be applicable.

[@Wallace0333]

Love your channel and you are probably the first person to ever mention about ticks. Most brush it off but also may not be fully aware of the dangers of a specific virus that can infect its host within 15 minutes and cause permanent nerve damage or death. Imagine even the known/assumed threat without proper medicine scenario. Thank you for amazing content as always.

[@Unix_Based]

Me and my comrades in Germany are using the military version ATAK since some month and it is really a great tool. The only downside is you have to rely on others infrastructure to send map material and stuff. I have found the potential bandwith of 2m and 70cm HAM radio bands being not enough to fluently stream map material or videos in real time. 23cm is much better for such purposes. I plan on prototyping an encrypted box, that connects between the smartphone and the ham radio to send/receive encrypted data on 23cm. All it would need to make it compatible with different models would then be a matching adaptor cable. And those are easily made yourself with a little solder and some spare minutes. I hope i can make this entire system SoC, so it takes almost no space and weight and can be integrated into a molten epoxy block. We currently connect via APRS on 2m and that's super laggy and only text messages are able to be sent.

[@DaleLClay]

The large amount of useful information in this one video can not be overstated! Everyone that is interested in "this" materiel should save this to their saved list.

[@Phantom1188_]

He mentioned Warrior poet society I’m geeking out right now

[@robertf6523]

POET

[@Phantom1188_]

Robert F typed fast my bad

[@BMWI-gk9wh]

Robert F has 2 dislikes.

[@Democracy-is-non-negotiable]

The quality of these videos is immeasurable when helping patriots. Thank you for your service.

[@ronbaer67]

its been 2 years, you should do an update since its looking more valuable than ever with current events

[@mercedg]

yall need to do an update video, this was really good info

[@Ghillie66Sniper]

Trex arms coming in with the knowledge bombs.

[@briannguyen5725]

knowledge claymores. it only works if you come along and stumble on something they've put down

[@Gillysaurxx]

This is going to be awesome when me and the boys play airsoft

[@jasonm3127]

Thinking the same thing...

[@AdamWeatherall]

Blue fox tracker

[@monkeyboy8me]

Nerd

[@pmp1337]

This. There's always someone going: "I dont have data". Maybe one day in the future with 5G phone can talk directly to eachother

[@podglewis]

Hell yeah

[@bobbyschwarz4074]

I love the content you guys put out. Every bit of it is stuff that runs through my head on a regular basis.

[@williamsxd2004]

I am applying to be an cop in brazil as I live in a dangerous side of the country all of this stuff that i am learning here is sooo important in my future job

[@derekc4919]

Not gonna lie, map compass and protractor. Learn how to use them or suffer. Terrain association will become a heavily desired skill.

[@projekt679]

And it’s a highly perishable skill if you don’t use it.

[@whomagoose6897]

You just have to get a Cammenga compass. Sometimes called a lensatic compass. These compasses are the compasses that the entire US military uses. All services from mud slogging ground pounders to pilots, sailors and coasties. Any and everybody putting on a pair of boots for Uncle Sam uses Cammenga compasses. The only alternative is the Brunton Transit compass. Generally used by mortar crews and artillery. Get a real Cammenga compass. There are a lot of Chinese knock offs on the web. Those knock offs don't last a year.

[@amkowalyk]

Mmmm I miss my lensatic

[@gmdavisphotography3422]

I agree 100%. There is, however, the caveat that in a mass disaster scenario there may not be a means of terrain association. In a MOUT area entire cities, towns, neighborhoods, etc. could be leveled and leaving little to no identifiable features from which to navigate. rural and woodland areas so badly devastated that terrain features are heavily obscured and not even identifiable or navigatable. this would priceless in those instances.

[@whomagoose6897]

@@gmdavisphotography3422 Terrain association will be a problem. Was stationed at Fort Riley Kansas. There were lots of farms that were purchased to expand Fort Riley during WW-2. Every map had listings for silos and barns. All the barns were leveled by decay over the decades. The only thing recognizable about the silos was a circle of bricks on a slab of cement, about five inches high at best. The surrounding grass was four feet high. Good luck using these silos as a landmark.

[@nvls5393]

I'm really grateful that you guys made this video. I downloaded ATAK and started trying to figure everything out a couple months ago, but there really aren't too many easily accessible civilian resources afaik.

[@panjandrum281]

@Logan Teo go to civtak.org but its just error 404 I think its crashed might have to wait a while

[@tannerpowell6525]

Me neither

[@scootle74]

Yeah, I got it a while back too, and it's not that useful without more user community traction. Maybe this is the push it needs...

[@50StichesSteel]

Blue Force Tracker was an invaluable tool when setting up a PLT of 4 or 5 armored elements in a town to inner and outer cordon it off, to squeeze off whatever HVT we were going after. It also showed us any friendly elements in our sectors position to help cut back on Fragging and to get a better perspective of the battlefield..I got out right before ATAK was a widely used piece of kit

[@derekc4919]

FBCB2 was garbage.

[@50StichesSteel]

@@derekc4919 When compared to this, of course the new tech is better...Compared to radio chatter and sandbox rehearsals with an LT's shitty chicken scratch OP order hand drawn map, it was better lol

[@noneya135]

Great information. Thanks for putting the video out. Just remember everything you do on ATAK, Android can see and relay to whomever it wants.

[@mikeb1956]

Tic problem solved! Use head& shoulders everyday. No kidding, no idea why it just works. I live in the SC woods, work outside everyday and hunt. I never have tics.

[@MrKakemann1]

"Sorry about the mess" * Moves a claymore * Me: 😁

[@thomasverges8953]

So truuuuue I had the same react 😂😂

[@sugusparker4531]

Ohhhh, the last sounds on the end of the vid, easter-eggs right there!

[@Sleight1995]

You guys are amazing. I’m from Canada but rely a lot on sources like yours for healthy information. Would love an in depth guide on setting up your Android to work with radios. 😎 thanks 🙏 cheers 🍻

[@RADIOBUNKER73]

Hamradio operators TREX is calling !!

[@thomasmarchese2808]

Beyond just armed conflict stuff, this stuff can be extremely useful in other areas. I would imagine having your hunting ground mapped out. You have and ton or info that you can store. And many other things in sure. Definitely need to get more into this part of things.

[@ZeusHands]

I’ll watch Isaac explain anything 😂

[@f308gtb1977]

Seriously.

[@ChadE1020]

Pretty sure we crashed their site. It's down

[@Timothy_Jacob]

@Logan Teo same

[@EL_Pivio]

Yep... or they changed their mind on giving the information out🤐🤔

[@bziganti]

If you can't find your grid squares, just send the new guys to find them

[@isaacbotkintrex]

They are usually kept by the chemlight batteries.

[@bziganti]

@@isaacbotkintrex those are in front of the Humvee keys right?

[@isaacbotkintrex]

@@bziganti You know the exact shelf!

[@BSFilms1997]

Isaac Botkin Right by the PRC-E5

[@GeneralThe3rd]

I need them to get me 100 meters of flight line and bring it back here.

[@showdownz]

You are right, our private institutions and our government wouldn't mess with our ability to communicate or access to information. Thank heavens we are in America. Also I will be downloading this video so I can view it at my leisure, off line, for no other reason other then I have hard drive space to fill.

[@user-tp4fr4ij1p]

TREX arms is legit. This is dope. Cutting edge of civilian tacticality.

[@danielchadney1666]

I live in California on the coast and last week my parents where trapped 2 city's away because of a fire shutting down the main highway for 12 hours. I had told my parents and route to get home 2 months ago but they forgot it. I see that I need to have a better plan in place.

[@jerome1lm]

It looks like your parents need a better plan.

[@HamRadioCrashCourse]

Great work! That was awesome!

[@seanwieland9763]

Ham Radio Crash Course would love to see you guys do crossover collaborations - two of my favorite channels. Also, any idea why we don’t see more SDR HTs on the market? The IC-705 and SDS-200 show that commercial SDR is manufactured, but something that could do spread spectrum / cognitive radio would close the gap between the civilian world and military applications like the Harris Falcon III. Maybe it’s a job for open source hardware / Adafruit?

[@kman7381]

Mobilinkd tnc3 ?

[@josephvalinski849]

10/10 there is a back door in that app.

[@LexRivera]

it's open source under GPLv3. Feel free to check.

[@jdlitson]

Joseph Valinski, only the paranoid survive 👍🏻👍🏻

[@khalednagy8822]

Paranoid android

[@andrewmoore7022]

It's legit open source you can check it yourself

[@marcusborderlands6177]

@@jdlitson yeah but you can literally go see for yourself that there isnt, lmao

[@anomie6788]

I was going with 5 ticks, 3 with lyme decease . No wonder you have 1 million Subs, your information is far above what is usually discussed.

[@ninjapancakes9435]

Watching this thinking this guy is super freaking paranoid........ Finally someone just like me! First time seeing the channel but I think I'll like it.

[@devilmanable]

Sadly I'm so old school I still use paper maps and print outs of the area I live...but I kinda dig this

[@VictoryOrValhalla14]

Stay that way, land nav is a lost art and a perishable skill. Technology is great but worthless when the lights go out.

[@devilmanable]

@@VictoryOrValhalla14 my old Job was surveying I learned to use compass and paper and sadly I still do it but I'm quick lol...I still run my business on a paper system accountant loves it bank hates lol...

[@devilmanable]

@@VictoryOrValhalla14 also I believe if you use this technology then in a shtf situation you open yourself up to tracking even If you root access your device.

[@VictoryOrValhalla14]

shane lollar yes they track everything in your phone. My old profession was a Ranger and land nav was the core of our abilities.

[@Plur307]

I have had multiple friends notice the old school paper maps in my passenger door and make fun of me. I feel like I am the only person I know who still has paper maps of my city and state in my car.

[@devilmanable]

Go to your local colleges ask some of the computer students to help for free as project for school? I did this with my recording studio for aspiring engineers

[@thetomahawk6188]

“Middle Tennessee all looks the same” too true

[@termo543]

The passive aggression here is gold. Thanks for the tools guys.

[@The_kookclub]

God bless Tennessee and thank you you all at T.Rex for helping me learn how to defend my life and liberty. Hopefully one day when I have the right gear and time to go out to you guys and the training. I’m only a hour away.

[@NinjaArmy36]

Takciv's servers are completely flooded right now hahaha

[@benwhipple8567]

Isaac is taking over Lucas' channel, and I love it .

[@roryross3878]

I was surprised how rough the Rona had been on Lucas!

[@mtcondie]

High endurance UAV communications relay...I would be super interested in seeing a civilian option to provide limited area communication ability. Super neat. Thanks for the video. Also, It sounds like you are describing SDR (Software Defined Radio) for digital communication compatibility. The HackRF One is a pretty good starting point for an SDR transceiver with broad-spectrum digital off the shelf software integration capabilities. And...im on a list now...

[@jerrysolonsmith8471]

No shit, this dude is probably the smartest person on our planet.

[@ConnerHall]

Plug this dream software plugin into say... Home Assistant (an open source smart home) and you have yourself a preper's wet dream. Fully automated garden. Fully functional offline netflix. Offline map and GPS... It can even monitor charging on car's like Tesla... So once offline / open source alternatives catch up, we'll have real life bat mobiles. But we absolutley need an offkine way to do the map / communication thing. Thank you for bringing this topic up.

[@tylerz28]

Will help crowd fund to pay a software developer to create that plugin. Let me know.

[@EuroS50]

@Ben Wilson It's illegal unfortunately for us civilians to encrypt over amateur radio. Its easy enough to develop that plugin or associated tools, but I'd imagine the FCC would get their panties in a twist if someone developed it then released / sold it to the public.

[@ninja5672]

@@EuroS50 The FCC has no problem with wifi radios sending encrypted data to other wifi radios.... Someone needs to get that law changed. Probably won't' happen.

[@EuroS50]

@@ninja5672 Yeah FCC is fickle as fk... as are most gov offices. Realistically for this to work you would need an amateur radio that could transmit / receive on ISM bands. One could do that with a whole new radio, and that could be developed (i.e. an SDR), but it would take some time. Something like a civilian PRC-152 like is talked about in this video (it's also an SDR) but it would need to be done at an effective price point.

[@EuroS50]

@Ben Wilson Yup. You could easily use it with Gotenna Mesh or Pro, but those can be more costly than say a cheap baofeng or something.

[@dafunkmonster]

@@ninja5672 Those Part 15 devices (wifi radios) are also licensed differently from Part 97 devices (ham radios) and transmit at much lower power levels than Part 97 devices. That's why. Since wifi radios are constrained to transmit on the order of milliwatts, they're unlikely to interfere with other devices outside of a small radius, unlike ham radios which can transmit at up to 1500W depending on the band and the license of the operator and can propogate across continents. The reason why encryption isn't allowed on the amateur bands is to prevent the amateur bands from being abused for commercial purposes. If you want to encrypt your traffic, you need to buy a business band license. And you need a business case for acquiring such a license. This is probably for the best. If everybody who ever had the inclination to encrypt their radio traffic were allowed to go and buy a license for a particular radio band, there wouldn't be much space on the airwaves left. It would be a whole lot of unintelligible traffic - people using encrypted radio transmissions to talk exclusively to their friends about trivia while hogging up the bands. This would be detrimental to the hobby of amateur radio. If we find ourselves in a situation where the rule of law has collapsed, well, enforcing amateur radio regulations is probably going to be at the bottom of everyone's priority list. So, it's unlikely that anyone is going to care if you start encrypting your traffic. But in that case, your time is probably better spent on other efforts, rather than on trying to setup encryption on yours and all your friends' radios. Besides, transmitting always gives away your position.

[@josephsantana3094]

18:48 Duncan Lemp tried doing this... and he was close too. Look how that turned out.

[@Emuu-r6o]

How do you know that’s what he was working on? Very interested in this.

[@ShinobiHOG]

"apparently there's no option for child soldier....." had me rolling hahaha

[@SnowingNapalm]

just wanted to say 👍 thanks my research is growing more value assembling to localized preparedness for the protection of loved ones

[@cryptojoe1100]

The grid square joke... Love it. Remember to pick up a spare box from the local PX

[@1kaidoloor]

Great info even for 3 years old vid. Can you make an update?

[@stormpawthewolf2152]

This would be useful in large airsoft/paintball battles

[@richardhanck972]

My thoughts exactly... Only trick is managing to not get your screen pummeled with high-velocity plastic or paint.

[@utoobuser206]

Hell... the trick is to get ANYONE else on the field to be on board and willing to not be his/her own little rambo , ive tried and everything else falls apart SO fast when the paint starts flying ! Participation is critical!

[@hunterchasens2961]

Computer Scientist Here: (sorry about the spelling, I'm writing this more as a rant) So the mesh network over the radio that you describe is very doable but I'll throughout some caveats. There are large limitations to bandwidth. Those radios are transmitting audio and are not as efficient at sending data as say a packet radio would be. While its true you're basically turning the radio into a packet radio you can get dramatically increased range and bandwidth by using a proper one that works off of binary signalling rather than antiquated frequency modulation. This would also decrease the overhead for encryption. Next comes some limiters. You're gonna have bad bandwidth. I can't imaging getting over a 0.5mbps with a frequency that low. We use high frequency for packet communication (e.g. 2.4 and 5 GigiHerz used in WiFi) because of the short wavelength means you can send more data in less space. You're not gonna have all the features you're looking for. Especially working voice coms running over a mesh network. Mesh networks would especially be hard over UHF and VHF because two people can't be transmitting at once. You'd be sharing that 0.5mb connection speed with your entire team. Mesh networks are notoriously bad at dealing with bandwidth, to begin with, because not every device knows where information is located. There are often lots of stray and lost packets. Take that 0.5mbps, divide it by the number of people you have on your network, then add another overhead charge for each person. That's gonna be your actual speed. For example, in a group of 10 connected devices your, talking about a speed of less then 0.05mbps which isn't enough to transmit sound in real-time. That's not even including the encryption overhead. With all of that computing power, battery life is gonna be bad. You'd need some sort of external power cell. I know they use these in the military but GPS takes up a lot of power, plus the power for a 5watt radio and constantly encrypting and decrypting information. An average phone would last maybe an hour and a half at most (not including the radio). The battery required to keep this going for any amount of time will not be a small inclusion to your kit. The best I can think of are LiPo batteries distributed around your chest rig. The issue there is that LiPos are explosive.... You don't want to be strapping explosives around your chest rig. That leaves heavier batteries. I don't know how the military does this and they might have a solution. (maybe the battery pack is protected or in a backpack?) This is only the start of the problem. Another issue is jamming. You're using a radio on public bands that are easily available anyone else with a radio. Anyone can jam your signal. I have a $25 boafang radio that can use VHF and UHF channels. If I hold down the push to talk button your entire team has effectively lost communications. Lastly is tracking. Radios are not passive devices. They radiate signal outwards. Anyone with a monodirectional antenna can get the direction of anyone using this setup. Effectively tracking your team's locations and numbers. Anyone with a passive radar (aka. triangulation) can pinpoint the exact location of all devices. If every squad or every man has one of these devices you've provided the enemy with your location and numbers. You've also told them you're equipped with such a device and probably also have a weapon, a decent amount of ammunition, and armour. There are antivehical rockets and missles that have radio trackers on board and triagulate locations using exactly this method. To be fair this is true with any radio but those publicly available that use a public bandwidth are extremely visible. If your enemies had the right tech they could send down mortar fire on all of your locations without you even seeing them just for using such a device. The military gets around all of this by using a much higher frequency. Higher bandwidths require less power to transmit. They can transmit more data. They're also harder for the enemy to find the frequency and thus harder to jam and track. Encryption is done on the radio, not on the phone and thus is more efficient. There are agreed-upon frequencies they switch to if the first one is jammed. If you plan on using this in any tactical setting where the enemy might have electronic warfare solutions you need a better radio. The issue is that the FCC makes radios of this type illegal to operate (but not to own). My suggestion is to make your own radio. I'd use a SDR (software-defined radio), like the bladeRF, or hackRF then hook it up to a 5watt amplifier. This would give you access to frequencies from 200mhz to 8ghz. This is more than enough to hide your tracks for at least an hour or two. If the enemy had good tech they'd be sweeping all available bandwidths for packet traffic and would be triangulating every found source and checking for movement or any irregular signals coming for odd location (e.g. a bunch of packet radios in the woods). If they had a small supper computer able to process all of the signals from 200mhz to 8ghz it would be imposable to hide from them. Assuming they're using a small, normal computer and where scanning from frequency to the frequency at a speed of about 100mhz a second, about 0.025% of the total available bandwidth every second, then you could evade detection for at most 4000 seconds or 66 minutes about an hour. That's an optimistic appraisal. That's assuming, however, the enemy had EM solutions. I suppose it comes down to who your enemy is. If you're fighting a bunch of low-techs with AK's then the setup would work fine but would still be heavy and slow. If your fighting against any modern force you'd be kaput.

[@minutemandefense3935]

Well okay then. Ill take crap I don't understand but wish I did for 500 Alex

[@isaacbotkintrex]

All great points! These kinds of cobbled-together systems are not great for duplicating giant military infrastructures or fighting against militaries with great EW capability. But they could be a very cost effective way of getting decentralized communication during natural disasters, man made disasters, or in remote areas. Have a look at JS8call - it's a neat long-range low-baud mesh protocol that has some interesting capabilities.

[@wolfza2630]

This is cooler than all Lucas' vids put together in my opinion. The applications are mindblowing.

[@bearthedevil9675]

as a life long enjoyer of learning things about the army, their tactics, equipment and all the rest. I never knew what actual app or device they use to see the battlefield and it blows me away that the PC game "Squad" got it pretty much dead on. i always thought it was a "to good to be true" thing just for the game but that is genuinely an absolutely amazing piece of tech.

[@joes7541]

Could we get an update to this and or a Isaac Ted talk on current releases and or compatible apps and plugins!!!!

[@m.col.6440]

Atak has been updated to allow plug ins. Use atak, the hammer plug in, a aprs cable, and a baofeng and you are up and running.

[@m.col.6440]

@BronzeKaiser not that I know of

[@outlaw-nazca5759]

amazon is about to get swarmed with searches for cheap grid squares

[@GeneralThe3rd]

They need to be looking for M9 blank adapters ;)

[@albinorhino8732]

Some cans of squelch

[@antonho5903]

5:42 did anyone notice that ant crawling on his shirt? lol

[@Wundrdawg1]

we're sure that wasn't a tick...?

[@Afro_Prepper]

Looks like I found another advisor for my resource council. Very well done. Informative and to the point with no filler. Subscribed.

[@user-tp4fr4ij1p]

Basically what it seems like is you want to develop a JBCP. I've briefly seen this technology used and I think it would be brilliant. A JBCP in your truck would be an incredible asset, then if you were to develop the same thing for a hanf held device. Incredible.

[@squee317]

I’d love for you to host communications training sessions, I am in Knoxville and would happily make that drive for a day or two of solid learning.

[@f308gtb1977]

Same.

[@ddmirolli]

Same and coming from SC

[@-John-Doe-]

get an Electronic Paper display. charge can last weeks, easy to see in direct sunlight, and you don't need 60 frames per second.

[@isaacbotkintrex]

@@nathanpiatt5001 There are a few Android tablets with e-ink displays. It might work pretty well with OsmAnd, because there are a bunch of different ways to render the vector maps to make them readable in black and white.

[@-John-Doe-]

Isaac Botkin I should have said Electronic Paper or Electronic Ink because E-Ink is a brand. In terms of phones, the HiSense A5c and A5 Pro cc are the first color e-paper display smartphones, which released in the last couple of months. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGndpZ6DeteWm8k These are new, they are Chinese, which I’m not a fan of.

[@jesinu]

Me: Tennessee looks nice... 9:24 "comment down below how many ticks you think we got from being in the woods for thirty minutes" Me: nevermind

[@matankribus5080]

There is golden rule when building software... if you look closely every good software adheres to it. The unix philosophy is "Make each program do one thing well".

[@JohnDobak]

What you're looking to do is certainly possible, but finding documentation for all of those software interfaces will probably make it a pain for an uninitiated software developer. I know you're hoping to accomplish this with a commodity radio that people already have but why not aim a little higher and maybe end up with everything you could want from a radio? Perhaps now would be a good time to pause and ask if TREX arms is willing to be a little more ambitious and spend time with any electrical engineers/programmers willing to define a list of features/capabilities they would most like to see added to a low cost offering. Then contact Bao-feng directly and see how much they would charge to add said features such as Bluetooth and what the minimum order size would be. They are definitely willing to roll customized radios for large customers, as evidenced by all the odd but similarly priced sku's on amazon/ebay. I feel confident that the TRex arms audience + general guntuber's + preppers + HAM radio enthusiasts would be able to fully fund something like this and end up with a more robust product.

[@dafunkmonster]

OsmAnd has a documented API

[@shockwavemikey64]

Instead of relying on baofung, why not just create a secure sdr transceiver with multimode capabilities and use a mesh network wifi to transmit encrypted data via VPN. As easy as Android is to modify, that provides a very good starting point to brick in a sense any stock Android device and side load, or even root and burn your own iso and lock it?

[@R3volutionblu3s]

For the record if you find yourselves in a situation where you need something like this you should absolutely not have a phone on your person.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

I would second this for the common Joe. But as someone who knows how to gain root access and disable certain things in a phone. I will be fine.

[@mariosuares4622]

Thanks for the brains.

[@Jeeps_guns_bbq]

@@Elfnetdesigns absolutely point on, rooted Droid device with all your maps pre downloaded and radio is only aay to go

[@KirkFickert]

@@Elfnetdesigns No you won't. Back in Gulf War I in the early 90's the US noticed that when they powered on certain electronic devices they'd receive incoming artillery and mortar fire. Turns out the Iraqi Electronic Intelligence capability was a bit better than they had assumed. That was 1991. The ability to collect ELINT has only gotten small, cheaper, and more capable. This stuff is pretty well COTS these days and available to government agencies at all levels. Power on the phone and electronic hum the CPU, screen, etc. can be tracked.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

@@KirkFickert "Certain devices" you speak of were not smartphones, tablets and modern PCs that emit digital noise below the background noise floor like today. Back then phones were noisy and higher powered, PC's were barely 66MHz at the clock and CTR monitors and old LCD back light drivers, even NV systems of the time did emit specific dirty RF in the 20 - 40 KHz range. Today that is not the case, Y mode filters exist to keep PSU noise down unless you have Chinese equipment which is noisy. Cell phone and computer clocks are in the GHz range and a computers metal case keeps that noise in the case for the most part, Smartphones have shielding inside to keep it's noise in as well as noise out.. Things have improved since the "wild west" of the PC era to cut back on the unnecessary digital hash RF in the atmosphere. I work on this stuff every day I know what it capable and what it not even on the government level since I have government contracts. The government tracks smartphones by their GPS squawk, IP addresses, IMEI, mac Addresses and quad band site pings, not the LED screen driver PSU or cpu clock noise.

[@randy438]

I got lost hunting once and I used the Snapchat map to figure out which way was camp

[@nothreat33]

This guy is so cool. holy cow when i get my radios i'm going to try so many things (legally). Thank you! I'll be tuning in!

[@jjones503]

You've got me inspired in a whole new use of my skillset. Going to get working on it right now. Time to order some hardware.

[@Kylecombes4]

Do you guys have an update video in the works?

[@Pays2Win]

Great system....when it’s encrypted. In a tactical situation specifically against an “near peer” threat, you will have your ass smashed unless you can encrypt it.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

Yep and this is what recommending non encrypted ham radios like those chinesium baofengs and pressuring licensing to militia members and prepper groups is such a horrible idea. Ham is not allowed to use any kind of encryption. Sure it's great now to use as a learning tool but when the time comes to roll out people need to leave the ham radios at home and use serious radios that have encryption. Public service (police radios) and military surplus radios all allow for encryption options to be installed and programmed.

[@barrysnell6775]

@@Elfnetdesigns Any "serious radios that have encryption" that you think you're going to use are as open to The Man as unencrypted comms are. There is absolutely nothing you're going to buy or pick up off someone's dead body that will be secure against the government. Nothing. In fact, encrypted or not, the mere fact that you're transmitting a signal in the first place is enough for modern RDF technology pinpoint your location within milliseconds if the wrong someone really takes an interest in the source of the signal. I could personally find you with off the shelf equipment too given enough time, at which point I'll just put a round through your face from 800 yards out and take your shit hassle free if I care about what it is you think you need to obscure with encryption. So at the end of the day, encryption is useless against the big threats. For the local zombie biker gang looking for people to rape and eat, a wide range of old school techniques will be enough to keep Big John and the Wild Hogs out of you and your wife's buttholes.

[@Elfnetdesigns]

@@barrysnell6775 Considering the fact that we will be working with the government against an enemy force I am not concerned about "The Man". I am concerned about the foreign crayon eaters who think they know something.

[@barrysnell6775]

@@Elfnetdesigns You have a greater statistical likelihood of being hit by a giant meteor the same day you win the PowerBall with the ticket you bought right after fucking your way through a Victoria's Secret fashion show dressing room than you do fighting as a civilian with the American government in defense of the homeland against a foreign military incursion. That is so beyond likely that it doesn't even happen in Hollywood movies unless the invaders are aliens. Citizens of a country almost never fight allied with their government, so I cannot fathom what threat it is you're worried about.

[@robertbradbury7921]

@@Elfnetdesigns ah that is never going to happen. The government is simply a big "Globalist" organization. Only reason they play nice with us is cause of the 2Athe more none ethnic American people they get in the military they more aggressive they will become against US ! So it's binary, if you are with them, you are against us

[@Dimetrodon44]

They just took the Atak site down or we just broke the server lmao

[@Attemptedvelocity]

Just awesome. I gained a lot of respect for trex today. So freaking cool.

[@dnicemj]

Finally the color grading looks better 🙌love you content

[@user-zz6gc8ny6l]

Can not find it on the Google Play Store, or in Google. Also get a big 404 error with your www.takciv.org

[@lovilimon]

Same thing

[@blakepeary]

Same. I cant find where to download

[@musicman1eanda]

Same here.

[@jasonm3127]

kzbin.info?event=video_description&redir_token=yVgPWnjWbvBKeYIjs6CHTBXsq_58MTU5MzIwNDYzN0AxNTkzMTE4MjM3&q=https%3A%2F%2Foc.civtak.org%2Findex.php%2Fs%2FT8BqUTo3FCUFMVd%2Fdownload&html_redirect=1

[@jasonm3127]

Got it to work with that link for some reason...

[@superbri007]

At 5:42, when an ant is crawling up his shirt and you can't warn him because its a KZbin video...