Trezor Safe 5 Review: This is the One to Get!

[@cyberscrilla]

🚨 CORRECTION: I was informed that you can’t switch to multi-coin support if using the Bitcoin-Only wallet. Sorry for the confusion. I was told two different things. - Alex

[@TrezorWallet]

🙏

[@willspeakman2461]

You can switch it. Just not easy to do.

[@thamsanqaj7137]

Can you switch to bitcoin only in the standard TS5 version?

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes, you can.

[@stevolanddownunder3549]

Awsome review mate thank you. Being able to have a pin number of greater than the usual 6 to 8 digits is a huge increase to the front door security. Cheers Stevo.

[@cyberscrilla]

Agreed! Thanks for watching!

[@Btree33]

unnecessary

[@cryptoprince8284]

Keystone 3 pro support slip 39 with 20 and 33 words. Not only trezor

[@cyberscrilla]

You’re right. That said, my point is MOST wallets don’t support it. There are also some software wallets that support it, but the majority don’t.

[@cryptoprince8284]

Yep

[@greegp7400]

I have btc version and I'm happy 😊 and awesome multishare backup

[@cyberscrilla]

Love the BTC orange color! Are using the BTC-Only firmware or did you switch to Multi-Coin?

[@greegp7400]

@cyberscrilla just the firmware for BTC. I hope Tangem will implement SLIP39 after that. Then I will use my multishare backup in different wallets.

[@greegp7400]

​@cyberscrilla it is normal BTC firmware, I know I can change but I will wait , maybe Tangem implement SLIP39 🤔 But probablybbuy purple 💜 safe 5😂

[@cyberscrilla]

I want the purple too! Just didn’t want to wait 😆

[@ktodo6014]

Hey, can you confirm that there is option to change firmware to universal?

[@-zerocool-]

I have one of these, I like the metal rear, makes it more weighty, flat display is a plus, but they should have went a step further with a new slightly larger, OLED display, otherwise its just a Safe 3 with Model T display. I like my Stax way better.

[@Btree33]

seedsigner

[@user-nf1yp6kw4j]

When I got it I thought first it was all screen display, its just same as T model but yeah much better and it feels nice to have

[@superpauleesworld8170]

Hey Alex, thanks for the great review(s)! Do you have any concerns about firmware updates?

[@cyberscrilla]

Not sure what you mean? Why would I have any concerns? As long as the firmware comes directly from the wallet manufacteur, I'm not concerned.

[@superpauleesworld8170]

@@cyberscrilla Got it. thank you! Am kinda new at this so ;) Does your affil link still work? If so, I will use it. :)

[@cyberscrilla]

No worries, happy to answer any questions you might have. And yes, affiliate still works, thank you for your support! - Alex

[@willspeakman2461]

Trezor safe 5 is the choice then. You can split the seed phrase up like a multi sig. Meaning your protecting yourself from loss or theft. You can use the SD card to make the Trezor obsolete without it. Splitting the Trezor and SD in different locations makes theft impossible. Sure you might get killed anyway if someone doesnt believe you but.... Eventually it will become common knowledge that you cant steal crypto physically. It will reduce crime and make it much safer. On top of that Tezor donates to Bitcoin education with each purchase.

[@cyberscrilla]

Good points!

[@-joe-davidson]

Not crazy about the colors... I ordered the Black Graphite but maybe if they come out with some new colors, I might get another... Maybe a Ruby Red or Cobalt Blue... Maybe... 🤔

[@cyberscrilla]

Ooooh! Ruby Red would be SICK! I like the purple one too

[@asaam.r0n]

Thank you I've eyeing this one for a few days, I think this is going to be my second wallet I have a question, if a chip wasn't open source, what would be the worst thing that could happen? like, is there a way for a company to read your seed phrase through the chip or something like that? sry if it's a dumb question

[@cyberscrilla]

Thanks for watching! And anything is possible. Most chips on the market are closed source. Fortunately most wallet manufacturers also have 3rd party security audits done to prove there are no hidden backdoors or vulnerabilities.

[@asaam.r0n]

@@cyberscrilla Thank you, I asked bc I own a Safepal wallet, and as far as I understand everything is open source except for the chip, I'm considering if just upgrading to the Trezor Safe 5 or still use both

[@cyberscrilla]

@luissaavedramori4692 Safepal is a reputable company. I use the X1 myself. That said, I have about 7 wallets I use on a “consistent” basis. Not a bad idea to have multiple devices and different seed phrases either.

[@jonathanc.9247]

Subscribed! Great channel I really appreciate the info but just have 2 newb questions: 1) so what happens if my trezor gets lost or destroyed? Is my crypto gone, or am I good as long as I have my pins and seed words recorded somewhere or memorized? 2) I have a really old PC, will trezor still work for me or would I need a newer laptop?

[@cyberscrilla]

Thanks for the sub! 1) As long as you have your seed phrase you can recover your crypto on nearly any hardware wallet device-even a different brand wallet. 2) Trezor suite is supported by both older and newer Mac, Windows, and Linux computers. Worst case, you can use the “Trezor Suite for Web” option in your browser rather than downloading the app. But if your computer supports downloading it, I’d do that. FYI, you can try downloading Trezor Suite right now before you even buy the wallet. Just go to their website and try it out-it’s free software.

[@jonathanc.9247]

@@cyberscrilla you’re the man! Thank you for the timely reply and for breaking this down so newcomers can understand crypto. Really cool what you’re doing!

[@cyberscrilla]

@jonathanc.9247 THANK YOU!

[@SaveTheHedgehog]

​@@cyberscrilla1). Why should u use it anyways? Paper wallet is the best!

[@CarlitoElGrande1]

mhh...just get my, but there is no hologramm security tape. but the package looked normal and sealed..

[@cyberscrilla]

@@CarlitoElGrande1 where did you order it from? It should have the tape on it. I would contact Trezor to be safe.

[@gabrielhumphrey2449]

I bought my Trezor 5 off Amazon. It came untampered, completely sealed and has passed verification every use. Just in case anyone was considering using Amazon.

[@cyberscrilla]

Don’t recommend that to people! That’s a terrible idea. When possible always order your hardware wallet directly from the manufacturer.

[@gabrielhumphrey2449]

@@cyberscrilla That doesn’t make any sense. I’m not sure if you’re being compensated or just not informed, but Trezor Company R.S.O owns and manufactures the Trezor Wallet, and also has an official Amazon account to be able to distribute through Amazon because it makes a lot more sense for them logistically. It also gives the company exposure to prime members. Buying from the official Trezor Amazon account is no different than buying off of the Trezor website and relying on USPS, FEDEX, UPS, or whichever other shipping service.

[@gabrielhumphrey2449]

@@cyberscrilla censorship at its finest

[@MigueldelosRios-u8h]

@@gabrielhumphrey2449 how is that censorship? im really curious

[@felipetejeda7545]

It’s probably safe, if you buy from their verified seller, but is it worth the extra risk? The more hands it goes through in transportation the higher the risk of it being tampered with.

[@ShivaInu42]

Yoooooo this thing looks sexy!! Open source + physical 2fa + shamir secret sharing + usb-c + a sexy haptic touchscreen?! Time to upgrade.

[@cyberscrilla]

It’s NICE 👍

[@TrezorWallet]

Great review!

[@cryptoprince8284]

The only issue trezor has, that trezor isnt spread wide in defi. If you use defi alot, you should get keystone 3 pro. You can use metamask with trezor and that it. So if you want to use a network which isnt evm, trezor isnt for you, since support of hot wallets is weak, like solona memes or staking etc. Etc I have both and use them both for difference cases. As long trezor doesnt spread theirs wallets in defi, im mainly using it as cold storage only.

[@TommyShelby002]

What does defi and evm mean?

[@moneymo6417]

​@@TommyShelby002 Decentralized Finance and Ethereum Virtual Machine

[@thinkblue8089]

question. I originally had the Trezor one and upgraded to the safe 3. When I setup my safe 3, I used the recovery option using the seed from the trezor one. So my safe 3 has a 24 word seed phrase. Can I still change to slip 39 backup? If yes, and I want to do a 2 out of 3 shares, will one of the shares be the original 24 word seed, or will it generate 3 new 20 word seeds?

[@cyberscrilla]

You can’t change your seed phrase. You have to initially set it up using the SLIP39 20-word phrase, which you clicks later update to the multi-share phrase. So you need to create a new one if you want to use slip39

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

Can you put your data on three Trezor wallets for redundancy? All my years of family photos are on three separate hard drives for security, so why wouldn't I use the same mentality for my crypto? I don't like the fact they have no live support.

[@cyberscrilla]

By data you mean what? Your seed phrase? Your seed phrase isn’t attached to any one wallet. You can import it into a million different wallets if you wanted to. If you’re looking to diversify your crypto, you’ll want to store it using different seed phrases as crypto isn’t stored in a wallet, it’s stored on the blockchain.

[@JohnDoe-zb7dz]

@@cyberscrilla thank you

[@IgorLisx]

Why do you need these if you could have it on standard USB stick?

[@cyberscrilla]

A standard USB stick lacks crucial security elements such as a PIN and secure element chip, meaning they are prone to hacks, plus you can’t manage crypto using a USB stick like you can with a hardware wallet.

[@tomgeorge6865]

What is the process of transferring coins from a model t to the safe 5? Is there a cost$? Sorry for the novice questions.

[@cyberscrilla]

@@tomgeorge6865 you have 2 options. Just import your seed phrase to the Safe 5 (no cost here) as you aren’t transferring anything. Option two, create a new seed phrase on the Safe 5, copy receiving addresses, send from Model T (same process as sending crypto from an exchange to your model T if you did that). Cost depends on the blockchain. Solana would be a few cents, whereas bitcoin could be $20+ to transfer.

[@tomgeorge6865]

@@cyberscrilla so your seed phrase is not tied to a specific device then? If my model t died, I would not have to replace with another model t? What about another manufacturer?

[@cyberscrilla]

@tomgeorge6865 Nope. Seed phrases are not tied to any specific device. Most wallets support BIP39 phrases (12-24 word phrases). So you can take the seed phrase you generated on Trezor and use it in other Trezor devices, Tangem, Onekey, Safepal, etc

[@empressatheism5146]

what will happen to my old version wallet if new model comes out in the future?

[@cyberscrilla]

@@empressatheism5146 nothing happens. Your crypto isn’t stored on the wallet. The wallet holds your private key that’s used to access and manage your crypto. Thus, if you do decide you want to upgrade, you just import your seed phrase into the new model and manage your crypto there. You can also continue to use your old model (only if you want to) as you can import your seed phrase into as many wallets as you want (not saying I recommend doing this though).

[@gautamchoksi]

Is anyone else having issues connecting the trezor safe 5 to sparrow?

[@seunoworu2912]

Which is the trusted website for the Trezor safe 5?

[@cyberscrilla]

I linked to it in the description of this video 👍

[@defenceshowhindi4204]

I am confused.. safe 3 vs safe 5 . Which is good ?

[@cyberscrilla]

@@defenceshowhindi4204 both are good. Do you want a touchscreen that makes it easier to navigate the device? If so, get the Safe 5. Don’t care about touchscreen? Get the Safe 3.

[@OrangeLF]

Hi do you recommend using Tangem with my daily driver Android phone? Is it safe?

[@cyberscrilla]

It’s safe. Just ensure you download the official Tangem app.

[@OrangeLF]

@@cyberscrilla Thanks for the reply. I have got my Tangem wallet but never activated, as I was sceptical to use it for my long-term bitcoin savings with my daily driver. Because I have seen some youtubers suggested to use with a burner phone which is not constantly connected to the internet. Again this defeats the simplicity of Tangem and we have to maintain a seperate gadget life long like any other stand alone cold wallet.

[@merariescobar9118]

How can I add tokens? In trezor safe 5 ? Help me 😢

[@felipetejeda7545]

Check for the available list of tokens on their website.

[@domainadmin3463]

After watching the review of the Safe 5 model, I don't see it offering any significant advantages over the Trezor Model T. Both have similar sizes and features, with the only notable difference being the addition of a side SD card slot on the Safe 5. However, if you lose the SD card, you can just wipe the device and regain access, which seems redundant. The Safe 5 is cheaper, but other than that, it doesn't offer much to differentiate it from the Model T. If you already own the Trezor Model T, there's no need to switch to the Safe 5. For new users starting fresh, the Safe 5 might be a more budget-friendly option if saving around $20 is a concern.

[@cyberscrilla]

@@domainadmin3463 The main difference is the secure element chip which offers greater security than the Model One and Model T which have no secure element… So, the Safe 3 and Safe 5 or the more secure models, and the old models are prone to physical hacks. But if you aren’t worried about that, the old Trezor models are great.

[@willspeakman2461]

Does the safe 3 offer the firmware checking when connecting to Trezor suit?

[@cyberscrilla]

Yes it does

[@willspeakman2461]

@@cyberscrilla Thank you for the information.

[@cyberscrilla]

Anytime!

[@alansaavedra3825]

Does it support USDT (Tron)?

[@cyberscrilla]

No

[@lifecience9512]

Trezor needs to support kaspa asap.

[@Donzimadness]

Newbie trying to decide on Trevor Safe 5, ledger stax, or Onekey pro? I have not been able to find comparisons with pros/cons of these newer wallets to make a decision. Any advise appreciated.

[@cyberscrilla]

Whichever you choose, check to see that the wallet supports all the coins you want to hold. That said, if you want a versatile devices you can use on both mobile and desktop, go with the Onekey Pro (the code CYBERSCRILLA will save you some money) If you want a desktop only device and something more affordable, go with the Safe 5. As for Ledger, I don’t recommend their products.

[@Donzimadness]

@@cyberscrillaany quick reasons for not recommending ledger products? Thank you very much for your response you are very kind to take the time to respond and it is very much appreciated

[@cyberscrilla]

Happy to help. In short, they lied to their customers. I covered it in a video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/j5bOqnigbbmId68si=jR2fVWzw17PvbHA_

[@lunanm7198]

Does your link give us a discount at checkout?

[@cyberscrilla]

Trezor doesn’t offer discount codes anymore. But my link takes you directly to their site, which is where you will get the best deal

[@lunanm7198]

@@cyberscrilla okay, i am considering getting one on payday. If i do i will still use your link to help out the channel😊

[@lunanm7198]

@@cyberscrilla Hi, sorry i know this is irrelevant but i could use some help. I went on to my ledger and noticed i had been "dusted" they sent 5 tiny transactions of xrp to my ledger. Once you have been dusted what can i do? Many videos about what dusting is but not how to respond to it. Any help would be appreciated 🙏. Are there any better or worse wallets to have regarding this?

[@eliasgc49]

6:50 Not true, Keystone 3 Pro also supports SLIP 39 seed shares long ago

[@cyberscrilla]

@@eliasgc49 You’re right. My point is a majority of wallets still don’t. So it’s not as compatible as BIP39

[@dastirogue3282]

No iOS support?😮

[@cyberscrilla]

@@dastirogue3282 Only view-only. You can’t manage anything using an iOS device though.

[@dastirogue3282]

Thanks brother! I actually wanted the Trezor 5 and Tangem wallet. I purchased the BC Vault at the same time as the Tangem but not really feeling the BC vault now since its current information is limited.

[@digitaldeepak21]

No point in getting this. I prefer airgapped wallets.

[@cyberscrilla]

Whys that?

[@PioneeringFreedom]

Hmmm...The Trezor is not Air Gapped, (in direct contact with internet, huge security risk), Using Trezor's "software" Trezor Suite to interface, no Checksum or SHA256 to verify the Firmware before installing. Don't mean to be a hard ass, but this is not worth the risk. At this price point You'd be better off using Keystone's 3 Pro...

[@cyberscrilla]

Air gap does not equal more secure. Common misconception. Malware can still be transferred via QR codes-it’s all data at the end of the day. Also Trezor does offer SHA256 if you want it. However the automatic authentication check is good so you don’t have to use manual sha method if you don’t want to. I trust both Keystone and Trezor to secure my crypto-both are open source-but Trezor is overall a more user friendly option.

[@Hmmm313]

I stay with TANGEM….

[@TrezorWallet]

What would make you switch? 👀

[@QuadTap]

can you confirm that Trezor firmware update NO LONGER REQUIRES unplug/replug sequence.... DID TREZOR CHANGE THE FIRWARE UPDATE PROCESS?

[@cyberscrilla]

I’m not familiar with that sequence. During setup, you have to install the firmware as it arrives with no firmware. As for future updates, once you plugin the device and unlock it, Trezor Suite will inform you if your device needs an update. You can also manually check for updates in Trezor Suite.

[@QuadTap]

@@cyberscrilla i use to be that you had to unplug the device and swipe your finger on the screen WHILE plugging it back in to initialize the firmware update sequence on the device itself. I believe this has changed and is not longer required. It makes me nervous updating firmware to begin with and even more so when the update process is changed whiteout note from the provider.

[@cyberscrilla]

@QuadTap Hmm. I’ve never seen that and I’ve owned my Trezor wallet for about a year. You must plug in the device and approve the firmware update still. There’s nothing unsecure about it. Especially because the bootloader would detect if there were a malicious firmware or anything like that. So no worries here.

[@tomgeorge6865]

My model t firmware just updated and there was no unplugging or swiping needed.

[@TrezorWallet]

@@QuadTap Hi, we've been working on improving the flow and it's way better now! It's crucial for us to make the update process as smooth as possible!

[@PIKOLO390]

I dont like to trust my wealth on SD cards cause they tend to fail down the road they cant hold high temperatures or humidity , safe 3 is way better !

[@cyberscrilla]

Then don’t use the micro SD. It’s optional. Like i mentioned in the video, I don’t use it. Also, if the micro sd failed you don’t lose access to your crypto. That’s what a seed phrase is for. You’d just factory reset the device and import your phrase. The micro sd card is solely to increases device security and further protect it from physical attacks. It’s actually really cool. But not necessary imo assuming you set a good PIN.

[@xTrieshi]

MicroSd card is good feature , maybe is a way to copy multiple of them and safe in good places ,sandisk lifespan is 10 years so its worth it ,its similar to bitlocker on windows

[@jonathanarras1281]

Also your wealth is not on the hardware, it’s on the seed that is generated.

[@cyberscrilla]

But if you rely on the hardware to protect your seed, then the security of your seed then relies on the hardware.

[@kylemanno903]

I swear ppl do not listen nor do they understand what EAL rating’s mean. Ultimately if you’re worried of losing your crypto to hacks or theft of some sort then just go with a BC-Vault or get multiple wallets and keep a little in each. But no one’s hacking into a BC-Vault wallet anytime in the next 20 years if ever.

[@Meh-ob6og]

keystone cheaper and bigger screeen and same tech slip39. keystone = king

[@cyberscrilla]

Not same tech. Different software. Keystone does not have an app, Trezor does. I like both, but to say there are the same is incorrect.

[@DAVID-ts8gf]

no kaspa = no trezor

[@cyberscrilla]

Own no Kaspa = Get Trezor 😆