(75)The Road To The USS Enterprise-F

[@michaelmacleod6517]

Let's be honest. This should be Alpha cannon. Fantastic stringing of events. Job well done.

[@RegBeta]

Yeah he does a better job explaining Beta Cannon and his imagination far better than CBS/Paramount ever will.

[@theodoremccarthy4438]

Agreed. It's a pity the current Star Trek writers don't have this attention to detail.

[@samronin1141]

I was really hoping we would see the Verity in Picard. Imagining a fleet with a few HD Odyssey as their command would have been so much nicer than the one hour rush job copy/paste we got at the end.

[@BirthquakeRecords]

Yeah, it would’ve been poetic to see the Verity in that fleet. Also maybe some refitted Galaxies and some Sovereigns. It shouldn’t have been hard, I’m sure all those CG models exist in the Paramount archives, but ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ maybe Starfleet’s new shipyards are only capable of producing variants of one ship class? Or maybe they were all refitted-for-combat ships from the Romulan evacuation effort? That would explain why they were all basically the same hull design.

[@JohnSmith-iy8hz]

@@BirthquakeRecords I really like that idea of the ships originally built to evacuate Romulans but refit into something more useful for general Starfleet operations. Especially since, from what I remember, the original design was supposed to be cargo related.

[@JD-rt8ym]

What is the VERITY Class of ships?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

@@JD-rt8ym The Verity is an Odyssey Class starship!

[@im_a_bored_james3496]

I’ve always loved the naming of the odyssey class and the Aquarius class. It’s pretty clear that it’s likely a reference or tribute to Apollo 13. As the command module for the mission was named Odyssey, well the lunar lander was named Aquarius.

[@ozelhassan8576]

When you quoted The Enterprises raison d'être it gave a tear to my eye, so emotional

[@DamienDrake2940]

Anyone else notice that in terms of both design and mission profile, the Odyssey is the offspring of a Sovereign and Oberth?

[@stoneageprogrammer432]

Was just thinking that.

[@neganrex5693]

Their offspring got an F in star fleet. LOL.

[@SchardtCinematic]

This was a great idea. Your beta history should be made official Canon.

[@kaidenshepard8446]

Oh I remember the linited time STO anniversary mission I think where you got a free basic Odyssey class ship in that mission (PC only exclusive at the time and doubt would ever get repeated on console) where you took the Enterprise out for a shakedown and we had Utopia Planitia I think as well to visit. The irony being i absolutely hated the look of the Odyssey class at the time, it made no sense and a waste of materials with two seperating connecting necks, it would look mighty daft if an enemy blasted through one of them entirely and cutting it off, these were mey thoughts when I first saw the design, but now some many years on, the T5 and T6 Odyssey bundles I own and with all the consoles and now having one upgraded to T6X it is a formidable ship to have in advanced TFO's. I tend to dislike something at first but then when I sit down and start using it, I find it can be fun to have. I even have one of them named the Sovereign with the registry NCC 73811-A as in my head canon the Sovereign is in for new tests to refit and upgrade that class of ship and so is out of comission for a fair while, and the Odyssey class takes on the multimission role. I cannot help but feel I have seen this video before, the information about the Odyssey and Verity and the different engines I am positive I have heard you say before, if not, I must have had a premenition or something. 2:35 I love the bluish look to the ships windows, they look much better than the horrificly boring plain white windows we see, it is why I loved First Contact, the windows on the Enterprise had similar coloured blues and of course that model had cut outs inserted into the windows of I believe interior shots of the Enterprise D, making that model very unique and one I really like. I know in Voyager it does that in some episodes in some close up shots like The Good Shepherd, which I believe the episode is when you see it in around 3:28, but the majesty of the Enterprise E in First Contact is just one that I will always like for the colours and the windows. I won't rant too much about starship windows just being white lights, I will njust assume it is a sort of filter so you can't look in them from the outside, but can see plainly through them from the inside, ha ha. The Borg Transwarp coils, I am just trying to remmeber if they couldn't recharge them on Voyager, only can be donw within a Borg vessel, I am sure in Dark Frontier in the end log it says something likek they got so many light years before it burnt out, but granted the schematics would be there and Seven's expertise, and any useful data that may have been gathered when Janeway, Tuvok and Torres got assimilated that time as well, (Unimatrix Zero if I recall correctly) In all honesty, every time I saw the shots around the ship and you say "Transwarp" I kept having Suu poppin ginto mind saying "She's supposed to have transwarp drive" for some reason. I am surrpised I havent seen any Excelsior class ships named Scotty's Granny's Wagon flying about. 7:14 I was intrigued when I first saw the Odyssey bridge many years ago, but now when I see this video, I look and Dr Bashir's line when they board the Sau Paulo comes to mined "Hate the carpet." The viewscreen looks way too small for the bridge, just in my opinion, but the design does have logic to it, the design not the screen the command area etc on the main level but down the two ramps we have the additional area below. The EHCR, now that is something that may have issues, if he ships crew are incapacitated somehow and the ship suffers power losses etc or are somehow caught in a dampening field of some sorts, the Holo-crew wouldnt be that functional would it? unless they have mobile emitters as well. Having a holographic rew does sound good, on paper, but there have to be many safeties in place, backups, and redundancies in the ships systems for eventualites like power losses and for them to function still, or am I reading too much into that function? 8:08 I wonder if this injured officer wouldbe incapacitated by exploding consoles laced with rocks I wonder, or if the Odyssey class is designed to not have rocks plastered around consoles and only to remain in labs or for display purposes. 9:38 makes me wanna cry, the plain look of those ships, now I know, they were supposed to be easy to build on a fast track programme and so the elegant design aesthetics are out of the window, these ships are meant to be sort of passenger haulers with basic starship functions as you see man of the same ship but different amounts of modules attatched to them, then you go to 9:45 from the ships we are all familiar with that look far more elegant and thats in war time, but the ones being built to helpthe evacuation are purpose built I gather for just the evacuation process and then to be decomissioned afterwards or put into a fleet storage facility in some backwater sector for any eventuality where they may be needed, and this could be where holographic crews make alot of sense too especially if theire is a personnel shortage for such a large fleet. Two thirds of the Federation fleet being lost in the Synth attack, surely they wouldnt be daft enough to have all their currently in service ships go back to this one facility for overhauls etc, I am sure there are other drydocks Starfleet operated in Federation space, though of course a majority of the resources would no doubt head to the primary ship yards of the organisation, I doubt they will make the same mistake again, having all their ships cooped up in one area again in an evacuation programme, but they werent expecting the attack, still they should have been better prepared, thats just my opinion. The Inquiry class and its variants, I would assume as well had the same design prospects of the evacuation fleet, quick easy to build but tactically ready, not lightly armed for evacuation but federation defence, hence why there are is a huge number of them (not my cup of teah, ,I personally dislike the design BUT if it can be manufactured quicly and efficiently to bolster a severely crippled Starfleet I can accept that I suppose.) The Odyssey class seems a very resource intensive ship to build much more than the Galaxy class even with new building and replication facilities etc, still seems like they are the 25th century version of the first original 6 Galaxy class but would have stand by space frames for if ever a war broke out again like the Dominion where we saw alot more of the Galaxy class in fleet operations, just going with the 12 additional Odyssey class ships being built, these would be the ships you want to get your first assignment on, just like the Galaxy class in the 24th century and the Excelsior in the late 23rd century... As always I thoroughly enjoyed the video and your take on the beta canon on a beta canon ship, took me a while to get round to commenting I know but what the heck, heres the lecture, ha ha, enjoy and take very good care of yourself sir.

[@jaspr1999]

Damn... That's just all kinds of cool! I really enjoyed the background and visuals. Thank you, man! I hope you have a wonderful one!

[@Reynevan100]

Odyssey and Sovereign are imho the best looking starfleet ships. These lines and curves!

[@Kaldryf]

I absolutely LOVE this ship, and admire the dedication the STO team has had to it since its inception. The Verity version finally let me build my favorite version of the ship. If you have it, try the following - Hull: Sojourner, Saucer: Verity, Pylons: Endeavour, Nacelles: Yorktown, Material: Type 8b, Windows: Type 1. In my mind it'd make an excellent new Enterprise for movies or TV.

[@BruinPhD2009]

These. Ship. Are. BEAUTIFUL! Just stunning.

[@grimreaper6557]

Thank you for an Awesome video. personally i think the Enterprise F is the most Beautiful of the Enterprise versions, sleek, powerful and all around Sexy. great job on showing the progression development of the Oddessy class Keep up the great work as always Thanks again.

[@trayolphia5756]

Ship is just over 1000m long, so big starfleet treats it like a base Laughs in other franchises which treat 1000m long ships as small…

[@cm275]

Warhammer 40k likes this.

[@admiralsquatbar127]

Laughs in Star Wars.

[@markmayfield2228]

Laughs in Spaceballs.

[@neganrex5693]

@@admiralsquatbar127 I found it silly when star wars build their death stars the size of moons. That was going overboard for a ship. LOL.

[@timmygaming8842]

fun Fact about the enterprise F the name of it's captain is V'kel Shon he is an andorian.

[@godzillakaijuboy]

Always wanted to learn more about this ship

[@MxDeNaglowska]

I'd love a new Star Trek series featuring the F picking up exploration where Voyager left off...

[@surge123456789]

This ship is a quantum leap over anything else seen in the alpha, beta and Delta quadrant

[@Dlstufguy2]

The show we need now is this ship going out on its adventures, like a next next generation

[@RememberTheChase]

😘😘😘😘❤❤❤❤ thank you! I love this ship so much, it needs to be cannon! Yorktown refit all the way.

[@richard77231]

Starfleet seems to have a pattern of getting caught with it's pants down, doesn't it?

[@dannywebb8718]

Great job! You outdid yourself

[@zetoboogaloo8802]

I like the odyssey class. And I do like the new federation ships from picard but I do think sending 3 of those fleshed out ships and a few romulan ships would have been better.

[@EugenioAngueira]

Another excellent episode! Love the story for this class!

[@TrentonBennett]

I love the Odyssey class. I wish we had gotten more of the Enterprise-F in Star Trek Picard rather than just the short bits we got in the last two episodes.

[@suprdav2]

The road Starfleet took.........asking the general public for submissions. 🤣🤣

[@thesageofgames1871]

was a long one

[@FeeriiEekii]

I think it's awesome that the Enterprise F is based on a fan design.

[@djth9147]

Not sure what road led there, but it's been a long road getting from there to here 👀

[@ussvoyager8650]

The Enterprise F is a truly beautiful looking Starship I've got a model of her & I've put it nxt 2 my Enterprise E model

[@aslanthebear3216]

Thank you that was great and really enjoyed you putting all the events together that created this class and the next enterprise

[@etorres4u]

That cavernous bridge is horrendous. It’s size would alone would make communication between the bridge crew less efficient. It’s like working in the middle of a warehouse.

[@richardajoy79]

Adam Ihle designed a great looking ship.

[@dsc4178]

Favorite ships: 1. Nebula Class 2. Steamrunner Class 3. Akira Class 4. Odyssey Class

[@devmag52]

Love the Steamrunner. Photons from a distance! Keep pouring it on (obviously a ST:Armada fanboy 😉)

[@mckayfan]

Wonder if the holographic stations still have rocks.

[@RegBeta]

Let's hope not!

[@timjerrom7173]

Fantastyczny! Just as I finish the Klingon war story line last night "early this morning" we need a better interior design, not just the massive bridge then I will start to use my Odyssey. Very nice video, you keep this game alive for me TriAngulum. "as someone recently liked this comment had to re-watch ;) and yes as soon as they add exploration back to STO I will be retiring my Constellation after about 10+ more years of service back to the fleet museum and finally be a captain on this massive Starship(s)" Also you again have sparked an interest in playing.

[@daviddyster4145]

YES! YES!

[@incogni-bro8276]

I’d love to see the full history of the Enterprise F in in another video.

[@dominik8005]

Thank you very much for this Video

[@kamenwaticlients]

They went for efficiency and left themselves addicted to dilithium after they had to give up temporal displacement

[@trayolphia5756]

I’d be quite interested in a detailed look into the only seen once in canon UNIVERSE class…

[@tessierpower]

It would be nice to have a series with the Enterprise F & a short series with the Enterprise C

[@Prodagist]

My favourite class in all of star trek, even if it's not entirely canon

[@theelaffingman8776]

A beautiful ship.

[@galwitprifor001]

Thanks Triangulum.

[@BlackNAVYAmericanVET]

Wonderful clip ❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@subgum3403]

Yes for a post badtobot kurtzman terk series please!!!!!!

[@Markhayday-h4i]

I want one of these for myself.

[@johnvernalls7609]

I want an Enterprise-F. LoL

[@angelomendoza1174]

The Odyssey class starship USS Enterprise (NCC-1701-F) is being an equivalent of a battlefortress, a mobile base and a colony ship like the SDF-5 Ark Angel! talk about Starfleet's rendition of robotechmology/shadowtechnology!!! The Aquarius docked on a starship's lower aft section is kindly reminiscent of submarine escort Tempest Jr. synchro-docked to become Thunder-Sub's bulbous bow and the Rocket-copter docked at the stern as Thunder-Sub's main engine!!!

[@Willpower-74205]

Here's an idea for the next video (if it hasn't already been covered, that is): What really happened to the Enterprise-E after the turn of the 25th century? 🖖😎

[@Calvin.of.Martin.Street]

Gorgeous ship and great detail!

[@GameHammerCG]

Get well soon, dude. Sending best wishes.

[@WINTEJER000]

I really wish you could write full episodes for stsrtrek

[@victorshukait4160]

I like to see yes I would like to see Enterprise F in Star Trek Picard I think it would be a good idea

[@dougsmith6262]

The road to the Enterprise-F. What kind of road? A long road...

[@raya7816]

yes I hat to see more.

[@SchardtCinematic]

Granted Discovery has shown extreme advancements in technology in the Star Trek universe. But do you ever think the tech will stagnate and not be able to advance any further like in the Star Wars universe? I mean after you reach programmable matter you can make pretty much what ever you desire.

[@galwitprifor001]

You still have photomatter.

[@OllamhDrab]

It looks cool from a lot of angles, though it doesn't make sense to me that it has the twin hull connectors, at least without *some* central connection between for quicker routing of things like turbolifts and maybe some power couplings or anything that might not want to have to go sideways twice. Especially cause the twin necks make a nicely-protected space between them.

[@FeeriiEekii]

Story goes that the double neck configuration results in more streamlined Transwarp

[@VZ.studios]

Amazing as always. Will you do a follow up on the F's upgrade/rebuild to Yorktown Class along with her sister ship and subclass namesake the USS Yorktown?

[@jlomesou]

I would figure by the time period of this class ship, StarFleet vessels would have a much longer lifespan than say ships from the 23rd century. I would still expect to see Galaxy Class ships still in use. And as far as traveling “starbase” idea goes, the Galaxy Class would be able to fill that role rather well.

[@FoxzyD009]

It would be good to have a couple of defiant class ships as escorts

[@noahjackson8174]

i wish we got to see more of that ship in season 3. 1700 something-th like

[@stephendaurie9344]

I wouldn't mind seeing an introduction of an Enterprise in Picard either E or F even if it's only in one episode the same goes for Discovery, can't really calculate that latter that one would have.

[@evos469]

Why weren't the Borg space conduits used or replicated?

[@gerogyzurkov2259]

FINALLY canon. I don't care about the show. Ship finally gets time to shine

[@randymiller1330]

Looks like a re worked ginormous take on the Oberth class..but n a Very Kool, yet classic new ship..very formidable ship..

[@khidorahian]

hey TAS, i was wondering if you could make a playlist of all the BGM you use with your videos, I love all of your Star Trek content that you put out!

[@joeclerkin2653]

Is losing 2/3 of the fleet in the Synth attack alpha cannon or pure beta?

[@JohnSmith-iy8hz]

I thought it was mentioned in the show, but I can't be sure.

[@Markhayday-h4i]

Starfleet needs dedicated fighter ships, smaller, with heavier more efficient weaponry

[@Great_America]

The major flaw with most Star Fleet starships is the warp nacelles are like large bullseyes for the enemy. The Defiant class starships remedied this weakness, so why are future generations of Star Fleet starships designed with this weakness? How about a second generation Defiant class starship and a real dreadnaught class starship. Had Star Fleet had them, they would not have almost lost the Dominion war.

[@stevenwells157]

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[@seancuthbertca]

Cool, great tie in with events from the TV shows and movies. Just one thing, the Enterprise F would be the 8th starship to bear the name. NX-01, NCC-1701 (original constitution class), NCC-1701-A (Constitution refit), -B (Excellsior class), -C (Ambassador class), -D (Galaxy), -E (Sovereign) and -F (Odyssey class)

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

No it wouldnt, as the Registry on the NX-01 was not 1701... By your logic then it would at least be the 12th with the seaships Enterprise and the Space shuttle! And thats just not how it works in Star Trek, going rather by registry number :)

[@JD-rt8ym]

Any comments on the Inquiry or the Phalanx class? I'm a retired Air Force Jet Mechanic....so any more info would be appreciated.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

There will be a video on the Inquiry Class in the near future!

[@maybetoby]

Enterprise-F was the 8th starship to bear the name Enterprise.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

It's actually the 7th, as the Lineage of the USS Enterprise does not include the NX Enterprise as it was never a USS! Much like it doesnt acknowledge the XCV Enterprise which was also a starship before the the NX Class, even though it too is canon!

[@maybetoby]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios I suppose lol

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Indeed, that's how it's counted ;) lol

[@sarcasticstartrek7719]

Where is the happy music from?

[@midniteoyl8913]

3:27 - Who's quarters are those on deck 3 with the huge view? Janeway's in her Ready Room so that's not her on the couch.

[@BirthquakeRecords]

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[@gadaadyn8190]

Looks like you have to do a new video now!!!

[@petem7766]

Would this transwarp drive be faster than the spore drive?

[@RunnerX13]

Why was the Enterprise E decommissioned? The Excelsior operates for over 100 years.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

We don't know, but Id assume it was because it was destroyed!

[@QuantaSolace]

Such a sexy design. It’s a shame that the refits we see in the game takes away from it’s elegance.

[@midniteoyl8913]

Still the best looking ship IMO.

[@angelpowers7413]

Did you have one on enterprise j

[@josephconner4756]

The Odyssey Class Starship looks like The Sovereign Class Starship.

[@ianfranklin2216]

I'd be interested finding more information about the enterprise's G,H, and I. We already know about the J enterprise.... We know nothing about the others.

[@02ujtb00626]

My only issue: if they are taking designs from the 2370's and refitting them to modern spec, then why decomission the Enterprise-E, especially when it performed above and beyond any expectation?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Well a) We dont actually know why yet, as perhaps the Enterprise E is destroyed. But b) Having a new, Larger, more advanced looking Enterprise to head up a new Exploration Effort would make sense for Starfleet! Great P.R.

[@karlmajerus6263]

Loves the video, one error and in it. The F is the eighth ship to bare the name Enterprise, not the seventh. Archer had the first, Kirk had the second and the third (1701 and A) Harriman had the Fourth (B) Garrett had the Fifth (c) Picard had six and seven (D and E) so F is number 8

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Im sorry, you're incorrect, as in Trek it goes by registry!

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

In the post-Nemesis novels, the Enterprise-E is still in service in 2386, and Picard is still the captain. In a similar situation as Kirk's a century earlier, Picard is punished by Starfleet for his involvement in Section 31's activities. He's allowed to remain in command of the Enterprise-E, but will never be able to be promoted to Admiral.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Except that Alpha Canon, Star Trek: Picard, has proven all that Beta Canon incorrect... And Alpha Canon ALWAYS Trumps Beta Canon!

[@joshuariddensdale2126]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Plus, in the novels, Picard twice declines promotion to Admiral before his punishment. The first time, he was offered the position of being in charge of the recovery efforts in the aftermath of the Borg war. The second time, the Admiral in charge of exploration missions has decided to retire, and Picard is offered the position. He admits it's a tempting offer, and even briefly considers it, but ultimately declines.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

@@joshuariddensdale2126 Again all those are meaningless now, as Alpha Canon Trump Beta Canon everytime ;) :P

[@thomaskirkness-little5809]

So was the original (Constitution class) Enterprise the longest serving? She was serving for decades but every one since seems to have been around for a few years and then destroyed.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

This is actually not entirely correct... The Original Connie without refit was in Service for about 25 years, the refit added almost 15 years to that for a total of 40 years. The Enterprise B was commissioned in 2293, The Enterprise C was Commissioned in the 2330's, so its possible that ship was in service for 30-40 years. And finally, the Enterprise E was commissioned in 2372, and according to the Star Trek Picard tie in, is still active in 2399, so that ship is approaching it's 3 decade mark. So saying all the other ships were only around for a few years is 100% incorrect

[@jameslewis2635]

The USS Enterprise (press) F (to pay respects)

[@cinemagraphic6324]

0:09 - It's funny, I'm currently working on a similar starship. Though, it's extremely pure beta canon, and requires outside fictional canons, not native to Prime Trek, or Star Trek period.

[@Barbariandisks]

So is the ship registry with a A, is this canon or your fan fiction on the Odyssey?

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

It is Beta canon! And no, in Beta Canon, she does not have an "A!"

[@jamesglass4842]

Don’t forget that the happenings in Picard and in that timeline and the attack of the synthetic beings is all based in an alternate timeline and not Prime STARTREK timeline. This seems to have been forgotten? It’s a shame because the novels had slipstream drive Starships.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Sorry you are incorrect! We have been told repeatedly, by the ONLY people that CAN tell us, the OWNERS of Trek, that Picard takes place in the PRIME timeline. So nothing has been forgotten, except by you, as you are just wrong!

[@jedivid]

I'll be honest.. Star Trek Picard screwed things up with the destruction of Utopia Planitia.. the original STO story of the Odyssey and the appearance of the Enterprise-F was quite awesome.... The desperate battle against the rogue Jem-Hadar fleet with F showing up in the middle to assist... it was a great fight.. Good story though not a bad do over for the Odyssey 's history

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

I dont think it screwed it up, I enjoyed (Mostly) the tale that was told, but I DO think it is a prime example of why Beta Canon is not Canon and never can be considered as such, as a Star Trek series can easily change anything to create an actual history for whatever event they want! And although enjoyable for it's fun value, STO is always FAR too out there to actually be canon.

[@johnhumphrey9953]

the Enterprise -E was the God Class. so, what could the F-Class be?

[@chebochevato8336]

That bridge is ridiculous. It looks more like a throne room. There's a ton of wasted space. Doesn't seem very Federation to me.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Uh, have you seen the Galaxy Class? :P

[@chebochevato8336]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios yeah, it was a death trap.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Maybe so, BUT that was filled with open space, just like this one! Welcome to the future outcropping of obvious Federation Designs!

[@devmag52]

I’m enjoying the content immensely and then you show STP pics. Meeehhhhhhhh.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Yeah and? You may not like Star Trek: Picard, but the world doesn't revolve around you, nor does this channel... I like Star Trek: Picard, the majority of Fandom likes Star Trek: Picard, AND it's canon! So if your judgements on my videos revolves around something petty as "shown things from Star Trek: Picard," then you know where the door is... Not only is that NOT embracing the basic fundamentals of Star Trek, IE diversity and respect for others, but it's also just ridiculous! Do better, be better! Take care!

[@johngreenjr8556]

I don't want to see an Enterprise F. There is no need for it. Let's not blow up a ship just for an affect.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

There actually IS a need for a New Enterprise... I LOVE the Sov Class, it's my favorite design, however, Star Trek has ALWAYS presented a NEW Enterprise for each Era it's been in... The TOS Era, The Film Era, The Berman Era, the Kelvin Era, So yes, there is a need for it to define this new era!

[@markcummings4281]

The Enterprise F is actually the eighth to bare that name.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

Its actually the 7th as canon shows us, as canon doesnt acknowledge the NX 01 as part of that lineage! See TNG Relics

[@markcummings4281]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios It is 8. The Enterprise, "these Are the Voyages' confirms it. This episode is inserted into the TNG episode "the Pegasus". "Relics is season 6 and can only show what they know at the time. There is actually 9 Enterprises with the J. The J is seen in the Enterprise episode "Azali Prime".

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

@@markcummings4281 Im sorry but you're incorrect... Im not saying that Canon does not acknowledge the NX 01 as an Enterprise, but what it DOESNT do, is acknowledge it as a Lineage of the USS Enterprise Starships... Probably Because it NEVER was a USS Enterprise... It also didnt have the NCC-1701 Registry... Which is again why the F is only the 7th! The Lineage of Starfleet's USS Enterprise's STARTS with TOS, therefore it is only the 7th, the End...

[@markcummings4281]

@@TriAngulumAudioStudios Rodenberry confirmed in '73 where he got the name. CV 6 was the source of the Enterprise name. Here the order: 1701, CV 6, OV 101, 1701 refit, 71001/1701-D, CVN 65, 1701-A, 1701-C, 1701-B, 1701-E, NX-01, 1701-J, and CVN 80. The number has it's own meaning. 1701 means 17th gen first ship off the line. 1701 is for the series only. Enterprise is set before the U. F. P. Discovery is set 10 years before Kirk. Discovery may not be the best Star Trek series, but it sill fully confirms Pike as being the captain of the Enterprise. Now, all they have to confirm a human April not as an animated one. The lineage goes back to CV 6. The NCC monacre is post U. F. P. Enterprise confirms all the ships between CVN 80 and NX 01. All the starships were designed to be carriers of sorts.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

@Mark Cummings Im sorry, it doesnt matter what Roddenberry said in 73, or 82, or 86 etc, all that matters is what is canon, and that is what is seen on screen in episode or movie form, branded as Trek by the owners of Trek! That's it, the End, thus the Enterprise-F is the 7th Starship to bear the name with in the Enterprise 1701 lineage... Canon is VERY clear about this with MANY episodes confirming this fact, like Trial and Tribble-ations for example that says the Enterprise E is the 6th Starship to bear the name! So get your head out of the sand, and be stubborn elsewhere cause Im done with this circular convo that you're just wrong about! So Im closing this thread here, Take Care! (Thread CLOSED- No Further Comments will appear to the public)

[@thomaskirkness-little5809]

If the computer is controlling the holograms, why does it need holograms? The computer is telling a hologram to tell the computer what to do.

[@TriAngulumAudioStudios]

You're forgetting the human factor. Humanoid Species seem to be uncomfortable with computers in control of starships and systems. Canon has shown us this time and time again, See episodes such as The Ultimate Computer, Bobbytrap etc etc etc. So it makes sense that Starfleet, to make it's crews comfortable, would simply create holograms as a logical compromise!

[@pizzedahff3127]

I just can't get over that silly ass "Hey, the Gagarin class looked cool" double neck design.

[@FeeriiEekii]

Odyssey class was designed in 2011, the Gagarin class was released in 2019, I think you have it the wrong way around...

[@bakomusha]

What is this madness!? A Beta fanon video I didn't much care for?! IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD I TELL YOU! While I would love to see the F and her STO crew in Picard, I found this videos welding of two VASTLY different canons to be not as engaging as the rest of the series. (Disco had felt seamless in previous videos) No hate, all love! You had a tall order, and I don't see how else it could have worked.

[@thelazy0ne]

Crap holographics replacing the state of the art holographic technology in the holodecks. 🤦‍♂️