Exposing The Biggest Rip-Off In Cycling.

[@davenaylor2000]

Not surprised you need a tub that size. Look at the bike behind you😳

[@davenaylor2000]

@@thevoid6818 Sounds like you use the same one with that username 🤣

[@timbullman1991]

It's an air saddle it's right nest to the air guitar hanging on the wall.

[@annelisenorth8670]

🤣🤣🤣

[@nicholaskoenig3106]

Too funny...😂😅😢

[@steinanderson]

you win the internet today

[@bendenisereedy7865]

Chamois cream is just a standard emulsion of water with oils and waxes. A bit of zinc oxide suppresses bacteria along with the usual biocides you'll find in any emulsion. And yes, udder cream is the same stuff without the perfume and a fancy label. Sudocrem is probably the best cream for sore skin.

[@SoulClubCoffee]

if Udder Cream was invented for cows then why do you never see a cow riding a bike smdh

[@martinbower2915]

well played, this wins 👏👏

[@danielsekera3525]

No thumbs

[@merqury5]

You must never have had a milkshake, of course they ride!

[@GBM6988]

@@merqury5 Udderly funny

[@lesliereissner4711]

I have used store-brand diaper rash cream for years after discovering that cyclist-specific chamois cream uses the same ingredients. Probably not as inexpensive as this udder cream but works well. I think American friends are using Bag Balm, which is also an udder cream. Probably the biggest rip-off in cycling is $350 jerseys!

[@songfta]

Bag Balm is petroleum based which will *destroy* your synthetic chamois in your pricey cycling shorts. The udder cream that Dan talks about here is similar to Chamois Butt'r in that it's not based on petroleum jelly.

[@jaycahow4667]

@@songfta I have been using Bag Balm as my exclusive chamois cream for over three decades with many different brands of high end cycling bibs and never experienced any issues with a synthetic chamois. I normally ride 6-10,000 miles a year and have gone through a lot of Bag Balm during those miles. I highly recommend it.................

[@SirBrass]

Depending on where your American friends are, they can PROBABLY find udder cream at their local Tractor Supply store. Or just head to their local Walmart and get store-branded diaper rash cream.

[@lesliereissner4711]

@@SirBrass Here in Canada I have indeed used the Wal-Mart diaper rash cream for several years. The only downside is a white residue which requires some scrubbing after washing.

[@chrishawyes1476]

Thank you for keeping us abreast.

[@Brainreaver79]

wow,.. that was painfull... put 10bucks in the pun jar

[@LaurencevanGrisberg]

Oh this is funny. I used Google translate to translate "udder cream" to the Dutch "uier crème", and to my surprise this stuff is sold everywhere here for people. They literally use the name "udder cream" for a consumer product! I guess there are a lot of farmers here, and they discovered this trick a long time ago.

[@jameseastwood402]

be careful though, I bought some when bikepacking in the netherlands and it wasn't the same stuff, super greasy and got really hot!

[@d_charles]

I switched to Noxzema at Chris Horner's recommendation. Not as cheap as udder cream, but about a quarter of the cost of the branded stuff ($10 CAD for 340g)

[@timstriathlonjourneys7575]

I wasn’t aware that cows rode bikes till they came home!

[@marklee3248]

You need a sponsorship! Imagine discount codes for udder cream. That's when you know you've reached the big time 😂

[@TriathlonDan]

I’ve been waiting for the cash cow to come along 😂😂

[@marklee3248]

@@TriathlonDan boom boom

[@cornishcat11]

@@TriathlonDan boo lol

[@AKandfriends-yt2yz]

tit

[@ZnakeTech]

Growing up in a farming family it's so obvious, udder creme was just the go to all round moisteriser/lubricant for all your skin care needs. Not only found in the stable, but usually we had a tube in every bathroom and next to every sink in the house.

[@GDub83]

I just buy a big tub of petroleum jelly with aloe and use about a tablespoon of that. No problems at all. I ride 100 miles a week and do a couple of centuries a year. It's super cheap.

[@dewindoethdwl2798]

When I began riding we had real chamois leather in our shorts. They did need something to soften the ride!! My formula of choice was to use “foot quality lanolin” from Boots (other pharmacies available) with a squirt of drapolene. Worked brilliantly and cost buttons. Sadly it didn’t work for the fabric pad in modern shorts so I hunted about and started using exactly the stuff you have stumbled on. The joys of coming from a farming community 😂 No idea how much I’ve saved over the last twenty years!! Now the secret is out, watch the prices go up.

[@matkrek]

This is udderly briliant!

[@TriathlonDan]

I’m moo-ved with your kind words :)

[@DanTuber]

@@TriathlonDan i'm too much of a cow-ward to use a cream

[@erikmmartens]

This is so insane. I literally had saddle sores for the first time just a week ago, due to chafing with my Selle Italia Watt Gel Superflow saddle. I‘m just getting started with chamois creme and then you drop this video and it gets recommended to me…

[@vadymvv]

Thank you! Two goals with one shot: we have no fancy cream here but this veterinary thing we do have in stock and it is cheaper.

[@frankvehafric5062]

In US drugstores I've seen a product for dry skin called "Bag Balm" which I assumed had it's origins in a type of udder cream. I imagine there 's any number of farm and ranch supply stores in the US and Canada that have a lot of similar products.

[@Quizmate1]

Yes Udder Cream or any neutral emollient cream like Doublebase, Cetraben, E45 etc will work perfectly fine.

[@richardjones2006]

Literally, udder cream from an agricultural merchants is the same stuff give ot take and a fraction of the price.

[@ysarn]

Emollient creams are not thick enough for use as a chamois cream, as they get absorbed into the skin. The idea of a chamois cream is that it is not absorbed and forms an anti-friction layer on the surface of the skin. You need a barrier cream for this use. Sudocream and Conotrane (£10 for 500g) are the cheaper options if not using udder cream. The other barrier creams that you get on prescription are silly expensive, such as LBF which is £15 for 100g tube. As a medical thing these are used to stop pressure sores, so are of course the ideal thing for use. I am a dispenser at a pharmacy, so deal with this sort of stuff regularly.

[@Quizmate1]

@ysarn Rubbish, professional teams use Doublebase, as do I. There are no issues and works perfectly.

[@ysarn]

@@Quizmate1 Yes, Doublebase is noticeably more slippy and slidey than those other emollient creams mentioned, and is marketed as a gel rather than a cream, so I will agree with you there. Having tried it on my hands as an emollient hated it, as it is so slippy.

[@Quizmate1]

@ysarn agreed, it's too slippy for the hands or face I find. It's best used on the torso, arms, and legs, I think. Something like Cetraben is better for the hands and face. Interestingly, a poor fitting pair of shorts / chamois will chaff whatever cream you're using, I think.

[@muratmustafa4532]

I recently started using a cream. I found it most useful on rides longer than 1.5 hours or 50 km. So, I do not use it on shorter rides which is 50 % of my rides. That way it last longer. While I agree that it would be beneficial for shorter rides too, it feels so much faffing around for short rides.

[@RoissyAngel]

The danger of buying those large tubs is bacteria growing in the cream. I think you need to be very careful about scooping the cream out of the big tub. Use a clean, dry spoon, move a required blob size to a bowl and then use fingers from bowl to your bits. If you keep sticking your fingers into the big tub you may cause bacteria to flourish and thus find yourself with a different kind of painful skin problem.

[@EastbayGolfer]

It has antibacterial properties built in

[@MarquitoRH]

This assumes that you have these hazardous bacteria either in your hands or on your nether regions. The reality is our skin is crawling with bacteria of some sort constantly.

[@RoissyAngel]

@@MarquitoRH Exactly. We are constantly exposed to bacteria and viruses. They fester and grow in the right conditions. If you infect a giant tub of cream with something nasty then you are going to be constantly rubbing that nasty onto your skin for as long as your giant tub of nasty is used. Best of luck with that.

[@jameseastwood402]

At the bottom of my cow cream. Time for a new pot!

[@TriathlonDan]

@@jameseastwood402 could this also be a nappy rash cream hack??? 🤣

[@paulreid2466]

I use decathlon's friction cream. A tube lasts me probably about a year and costs about £7. Fortunately I only need to use a very small amount on the areas where a seem or the edge of the padding chafs on longer rides.

[@germanhugger41]

Thanks Dan. Couple of years ago I went to an Agri- supply outlet here in Ireland and purchased some udder cream that had insect repellent, just never quite worked up the courage to use the stuff and continued to buy the over priced Swiss Ass cream at €20 per small tub.. The Battles Udder cream from a local Agri - store 9 miles away is a much more reasonable €29 for the 1.1 kilo tub..

[@waterside13]

I was recently caught stealing a tub of Udder Cream by a lady dairy farmer here in New Zealand. She reported me to the police, what a Cow!

[@SirBrass]

I use Arm & Hammer anti-friction stick. Been using it for a long while. That + chamois + proper saddle (not too wide) makes for saddle-sore-free rides. My legs still hate me, but my groin doesn't! Sometimes I don't use the stick. But with the humidity up, I can FEEL "parts" stick to the inside of my legs even before I put on my kit and get on the bike. That's the clue I need that I need to use the anti-friction stick. Will I pay more than a 10lb bucket of udder cream? Sure, but the solid stick isn't messy and sits conveniently on my bathroom sink, so its worth paying for the convenience. But after this video, I'll certainly stay away from cyclist-marketed chamois cream. If I need cream instead of a stick, we still have PLENTY of diaper creme I could use.

[@sifuerik]

IMHO, Check your saddle position. Having to use Chammy cream is usually a sign that: your saddle height is too high; Your saddle is too far backward and your weight is on the front thin part of the saddle ; Saddle tilt is sloping too much downwards or tilting too far upwards; Saddle width too narrow: Cheap Vaselin cream works wonders also!

[@kenlaw7503]

40 odd years ago when padding was genuine chamois, used nothing but udder cream from the local farmers cooperative😁

[@ahnilatedahnilated7703]

I typically just use Jergen's moisturizer. Works wonders for me and not super expensive here in the US. Thanks for the testing.

[@bobbyellis5006]

How in god's name are you using so much? I know people who ride that much who get through half a tube of cream in a year. Like, i applaud your research but maybe your next venture should be to look for a new saddle or something.

[@lvdovicvs]

I thought this, too. I hadn't ever used chamois cream and last year had a fairly irritating rash-took months to heal. I started using Triple Paste this year, essentially very thick zinc oxide, and have no issues at all. And I only use about a pea-sized amount in total per ride.

[@eragon6946]

Or less is more. If you spread the cream evenly everywhere should be fine.

[@russellmoore1533]

Back in the 80s and 90s I used to use a product called Silcon by Faulding, it doesn't appear to be available anymore. It was originally used for bed sores etc.

[@deemdoubleu]

Does it make you moooove any faster

[@erickmeadows6309]

This is fantastic information, I can’t wait to try it. Thank you!!

[@lvdovicvs]

How often do you need to be milked after using this?

[@glennwilliams5869]

Brilliant article. Thanks for sharing. One question please - does this stuff have a strong smell?

[@roguecode2354]

It is like this in all industries, for example you can get a giant container of acetone or buy a small bottle for nail polish remover at a higher price.

[@J053GL3Z]

Another nice option is diapper cream. Not as cheap as udder cream but cheaper than chamois cream and easy to find.

[@Frostbiker]

6:34 Living in Canada our family goes through a ton of moisturizing cream. This may be a good uddernative.

[@iansingleton]

I've used Gold Label udder cream and found the consistency to be very thin compared to cycling chamois cream. It works but doesn't last as long on rides and you get a very wet feeling bib short, as if you've peed yourself! I'll be giving Battles a go now!

[@bikepackingadventure7913]

As long as no one tries to milk me, I’m all for it 😳 😂

[@markbphilip]

The video we didn't know we needed but the video we deserved! How does it far for Triathlon use? I use Bepanthen for Triathlon, it seems to stand up well to being applied pre-race and still working on the bike after getting soaked in the swim.

[@crossrich]

Thanks again for this, I switched to udder cream after your last video. it's fantastic. Now time for you to switch to sugar water (with bit of salt, maybe half a lemon) instead of the next most expensive rip off l, carb drinks!

[@KyrosHouseCycling]

Bought the 1kg tub last week, used it on 2 rides on Zwift, it’s actually really good!!! Easy to put on, super slick, doesn’t smell the best, but works the same. GO AND BUY SOME!!!

[@richardcooper8997]

Morgan Blue solid cream, £16 a tub - but a tub lasts me 9 months (106 rides). Put it on skin rather than the chamois, it's the best I've ever used. It's more like a wax than a cream. I'm probably just paying over the odds for vaseline!

[@TriathlonDan]

@@richardcooper8997 I tried that one a while ago, it is a lot thicker isn’t it! I don’t think Vaseline would wash out very well

[@adriansmith5446]

I believe it's lanolin based. Which explains why I used to have to sit on a poly bag to avoid staining the upholstery of friends and family. 🤣 Unbeatable in the wet and for longevity but the resulting permanently infused lanolin 'chamois' did it for me.

[@buntbar2438]

100 Bucks for a Liter of nappy change cream is criminal. I did not know people would buy that. 😂😂😂 Great Video!

[@ScottWaltonDev]

I switched over on your advice last year and it's a game changer! I don't think I'll be buying the 5kg tub though!

[@TriathlonDan]

Moo-sic to my ears! 5kg is a bit hoof-er the top ;)

[@JibbaJabber]

Great info and consumer research👍 Question: Do you also find it useful both pre - and post ride😉 For proper aero gains, have you tried slathering in on and buttering yourself up? BTW, is one hand softer than the udder? Not gonna lie, was gigling at this beginning to end like a school kid.

[@alextorresphoto]

Amazing idea!!! Can’t believe I missed the video from last year!! Found a 4lb tub cheap online!!

[@better.better]

also it's probably just lanolin as the base, with, as you said antiseptics and antimicrobials added in, here in the US we have a product called "Working Hands", ... same thing, probably even the same company

[@ombmuzik871]

The biggest rip off in cycling is everything about it from the bike, bike maintenance, kits, nutrition, races and charity ride fees.

[@thestalwartlovers7684]

Never used any cream and never had an issue. Typically i ride 20-45 miles a day 4-5 days a week.

[@mattbarnes3047]

Bought the 5kg tub to try 😂 me and the wife are happy with it. Also at the price we are happy to use more cream which also makes a difference!

[@torontocycling]

12 gr/ride?! I use "SSASSOS" as well for a similar number of rides/year but I only go through one a year. Chances are the problem is somewhere else? I.e., bibs, saddle, bike fit, etc. ?

[@kevinpower5880]

I use the same udder cream (love the smell, reminds me of growing up on a farm). However in hotter weather I found it a bit thin and less effective. I use chamois buttr in hot weather as it seems to last longer.

[@sylv_ain]

Gonna have to try that. Although not sure where to get that in canada

[@Lankysprinter]

The real question is do you now slide onto a milking machine? Do your teats get sore?

[@HeyWattsUpCycling]

never used cream one single time in my ~20years. also ride on a bare carbon saddle. Trim or shave your entire area regularly and before you hop on the bike use a diaper wipe and scrub the hell out of yourself before you put your bibs on.

[@jds7438]

Fair play for being this committed. I think you may be applying way to much cream for this to be an issue. In fact, to much cream, can cause more issues.

[@matthewwhetton4326]

Slightly disappointed you didn't smear one half in Udder cream and one half in cyclist's taint cream! Loving the recommendation though

[@TriathlonDan]

I'll chew the cud on this for next time ;)

[@Emtbtoday]

Used diprobase today what an improvement! 😂 unbelievable the difference!

[@Seiskid]

This is a great idea. And had me in stiches. Awesome bit of research.

[@PaDaZ83]

Great video, gonna give it a try

[@JamesEllisPT]

the dedication.... to make a video about this! but agreed, I stopped wasting £££ on these a come of years ago, I just use basic aqueous cream it does the same thing

[@sgold1132]

After nearly 35 years of cycling I have found a great combination to make your nether regions feel great while riding in any weather and distance. First I use a lanolin based diaper rash ointment on my crotch and anywhere on my arse that gets rubbed when riding. This creates an antibiotic moisture barrier that lasts and lasts. Rub it in good. Then I use a small amount of chamois cream on the pads of my cycling shorts. This combination hasn’t failed me yet and I ride in 90-100 degree temps here in south Florida. Also, never, never trust a washing machine to clean your shorts. Wash them by hand with hot water and good quality soap and make sure they are rinsed thoroughly.

[@Maffy-h]

🤣🤣🤣🤣 awesome . I'm sold, sign me up .

[@goldenretriever6261]

I go bare back. What you need cream for?

[@markifi]

long rides?

[@kennethdarlington]

Great finding. Thanks!

[@TriathlonDan]

Moo-velous, glad to be of help :)

[@ForestCyclingAdventures]

I bought a 200ml pot in 2011.. it's still half full 😮 I guess I use it sparingly.

[@travisevans7502]

A little bag balm for your bag lol😆

[@UKBROOKLYN]

Struggling to understand how you are able to go through so much chamois cream in one year..???

[@michaelmappin4425]

Right? I ride 5 to 8000 miles a year and don't use a quarter that much.

[@ElTagno]

@@michaelmappin4425 5 miles to 8000 miles is quite a big range.

[@genegroover3721]

​@@michaelmappin4425 I have been a nurse x 27 years. The bio-variability between people is amazing. The degrees of sensitivity in people's skin is beyond imagination. His skin is probably a lot more sensitive than your skin. Degrees of thickness of the different layers of the skin probably plays a large part.

[@UKBROOKLYN]

@@genegroover3721 Its is still a phenominal amount of cream any way you try and excuse it..

[@jackriley1989]

I have very sensitive skin and struggle with psoriasis in winter so need a barrier. I ride 15,000 km a year (9300mi) a year. I use about 1.5 small tubs of the sassos stuff a year. I've never felt like that was an expensive part of the annual cost of riding. I guess I am not too liberal with the cream?

[@harryrowland4734]

Blimey ! I've had a 150ml tub of anti friction balm for probably a couple of years and I'm about 25% in. But I only need to use it for long sweaty or wet rides

[@CenaSitnica]

20 pounds for 200g?! Morgan blue solid chamois cream for about 9 pounds where i live. Used about half a tube in 2 years, for cycling and swimming in a wetsuit. Had to look udder cream up.. 1kg for 20 punds and it has a pump! 😂 Need to try it! 🤣

[@renegadeflyer2]

Just don't use udder cream with liniment. Some creams have it, to soften hard and swollen udders. Being it will get hot. It would probably have the same affect with other parts also.😲

[@golamchowdhury3789]

i loved the scientific method and data you gathered - thank you for sharing

[@musicman5075]

Squirt Barrier Balm works very well. It is thick and a tub lasts a long time. Only used it on rides upto 600km - couldn't vouch for how well it works on long rides

[@jlevesque41]

You just saved me enough for my next Zwift membership! Big thanks!

[@robbiecryer958]

Never used it but have used my baby boy's sudocream after long rides to good effect.

[@ariffau]

Sounds great, but do they smell as good from cycling specific brands? Also, do they damage the chamois and/or bibs’ lyrca?

[@MH-js8vb]

My only thought is...damn how can you use that much cream for a just one butt!!! Can you still sit on the bike or you slide out of it with that much lubricant? I'm on the same Butt'r 235ml tube since 3 years and I ride 12000km a year!😅

[@jamieokane989]

A big benefit of living in Scotland is free prescriptions, so get your Doc to prescribe an ‘anti irritant’ cream!

[@AbiShafi]

I use E45 cream works for me! 😎

[@brianphillips7696]

People from farm families have known about udderly smooth and similar products for many decades. I did buy one tube of “real” chamois cream to compare with udder cream. I probably won’t bother again. I don’t think there is much difference.

[@billcooper2798]

How do I get some of this product?

[@pbalerig]

Your video makes me laugh. Will try it out. great video.

[@CharlieCarbsandCycling]

this is iconic content

[@thorwinhh]

I think you have misunderstood the use of cycling chamois cream. Its purpose is not to reduce friction but to protect your skin from infections. It’s also good to use after the ride. The whole friction thing is something from the past and has been refuted. Jan Ullrich talked about this in a podcast. They used to put a lot of cream on the cycling shorts, but nobody in the peloton does this anymore. So, if you see it as a skin protection cream, you only need one fingertip per long ride.

[@toriwangjanim4886]

I just use crisco with excellent results. Now I’ll have to look up some udder cream now and compare.

[@harrybbbb]

Been riding a bike for 50 years. Longest ride over 200 miles. Regularly do 10,000 miles a year. I’ve never used any cream. What’s wrong with me?

[@jucaesar4961]

For me I only had to start using some cream after developing 2 sore spots down there in a 1000km ultra race that I then had to scratch because of pain sitting in the saddle after 850km. So if you don't have a problem, don't worry.

[@Type1on2wheels]

Looks like I’m going to my local farmers supply store and getting some udder cream! Likes and subscribed! You bloody Legend!!!

[@AAKhanivore]

Big tub will dry out over time though won’t it?

[@jochenkraus7016]

He sounds like that stuff doesn't get old when he uses it unless it was a literal truck load.

[@arthurd6495]

This is the funniest cycling video I've ever seen!! 🤣🤣 Also, I'm going to be buying Udder Cream! 🤣🤣

[@twintwitch1]

I use Destin, diaper rash crème. Keeps infections, boils etc. away

[@Watchheath]

Wow that’s awesome great tip 👍

[@mvp_kryptonite]

I can’t see the video you mentioned at the beginning and it was just an image and not a link.. any playlists with them?

[@HobbyHoarder]

Have you checked the ingredients on the udder cream? Maybe it contains something that's potentially harmful to you, but the rules aren't as strict for animal products.

[@goldenretriever6261]

Dude must be layering it on like a peanut butter sandwich if hes going through that much.

[@markifi]

right?! i use about a 100 grams of coconut oil a year, if even that much

[@thomasfitzgibbon1675]

Triathletes…

[@scottbaker9200]

I grew up in rural America. Hence I’ve used udder cream for hands, feet, and now my @$&! I’m new to cycling. Thanks for the reminder. I have a tub of it already.😊

[@TAP1992]

Dude, that’s a lot of cream !!! But if it helps, thanks for the heads up

[@TriathlonDan]

No worries, just trying to milk the best advice for you 👍

[@Ultegra10SPD]

Ive been on noxema skin cream for couple yrs and its tubs are much less than ‘sassos’, ‘dutter’ or ‘theez butz’. -U10

[@brickstotrips]

Does it have a sell by date Dan? That’s a big tub 😂!!

[@JonathanWhoever]

Vaseline used to make coco butter, it was good. But discontinued

[@guy5paris]

Brillant idea!