Should You Ride a Longer Snowboard?

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@robinklippenstein7045
@robinklippenstein7045 6 ай бұрын
“Short boards suck, long boards truck!” That was written in a gondola at Sunshine in the early 90s. Perhaps a prophecy?
@ZebPowelll
@ZebPowelll 6 ай бұрын
Big boards are dope
@jeffreywoodford1812
@jeffreywoodford1812 6 ай бұрын
They ever gonna release yours to us mere mortals?
@brohammer
@brohammer 4 ай бұрын
Sick to see you commenting on these vids
@duuurs
@duuurs 14 күн бұрын
@zeb i was lucky enough to snag a 205 ultra blossom, and it rides amazing
@LaserChipp
@LaserChipp 3 күн бұрын
Riding a big board is extra steeze points
@JD_Therapy
@JD_Therapy 6 ай бұрын
Low key, this video made me eager for Winter :D lol
@ethanchamberlain853
@ethanchamberlain853 6 ай бұрын
I rode 54-58 semi volume shift boards for the last 5 years. Sized up to a 162 regular width. Loved the extra effective edge, a long tail to land on, and most of all added stability . Floats in pow as good as a short wide.
@boardforthescraping
@boardforthescraping 6 ай бұрын
Short wides are nothing more than a marketing scam, unless of course your a euro carver, but your not
@craighingley5245
@craighingley5245 6 ай бұрын
Great to see big boards coming back finally. Not long ago it was hard to get much selection. I love length for stability at high speeds on chop and sketchy lines, speed everywhere, drift accross flats (Love cruising by skiers that are skating flats) and split for easier uphill in powder. Been riding ~40yrs, 5 10 180ish and my all mountain is always a 68 with as close to full camber as I can get these days. Currently Flight Attendant. Park days are long done for me so no worries about spinning anymore...
@slipperystoney95
@slipperystoney95 4 ай бұрын
I am 6'4" and my Gen 1 159W Orca has been great but it was incredible when I was 25lbs lighter. Can't wait to get on a bigger board again - attacking the mountain at speed and feeling confident in landings, need those extra cm's!
@WWJD.
@WWJD. 2 ай бұрын
I'm 5'11" and 125....I love my Nidecker Play 162 wide!✌️✌️ im also an adaptive rider with Muscular Dystrophy...ive thought about changing but ive done the best riding of my life on my yacht 😅
@konajiko
@konajiko 4 ай бұрын
Live in Japan and ride a lot in the BC pow here. It was always about finding the biggest board you think you can handle, and then going 10% more. I'm 150 lbs / 5'7 and ride a Jones 164 Solution. Wish the Storm Chaser came in +165 lengths
@LucasE269
@LucasE269 6 ай бұрын
I just bought a 169W black snowboard of death for this year. I can't wait. My normal size is a 162w.
@duuurs
@duuurs 14 күн бұрын
Jumped this year from a 162w to the 205 Ultra Blossom.....I'm 6'3 and about 220 pounds - it was so much easier than I thought it would be, and the additional stability at speed makes it much more fun to ride with confidence.
@jeffreywoodford1812
@jeffreywoodford1812 8 күн бұрын
I tried but failed to get one of those. I’ve got the 2018 195 Doughboy Shredder and it’s so much easier to ride than you would think looking at it too. What’s the flex like on the Ultra Blossom?
@duuurs
@duuurs 8 күн бұрын
@jeffreywoodford1812 i would say it's on the medium-stiff side. Little stiffer than I'm used to but I'm really really enjoying it. I thought it would be a powder board or once in a while, but its gonna be my daily driver I like it so much
@WAco-se9wf
@WAco-se9wf 6 ай бұрын
I had a 151 warpig, when recommended was the 148. (Was some kg lighter then 1,78m with 72kg) now I own a 154 superpig and love it (width and bit length), and am 78-82kg depends on my training and diet. So longer short wide are fun too
@brianquigley6919
@brianquigley6919 6 ай бұрын
Totally agree the tech these days is nice! I was on 154/155ish forever and recently went to 159 alchemist don't see myself going back anytime soon. 5'9" 140lbs tops for reference haha
@punkaddic
@punkaddic 6 ай бұрын
I'm on 160 alchemist and im only 155 lbs and its perfect ! Bigger board than most of my friends that weighs 200 pounds lol
@dwebb8910
@dwebb8910 6 ай бұрын
Great video, it seems we all went through the process of downsizing. This then got compounded with the volume shift era we've been in with people downsizing again but many of my guests downsizing from what was already a short board. Good to hear this insight and direction of embracing the design evolution of boards and how long is not something to fear anymore in fact its what a lot of us should be on.
@Albert-jb8pg
@Albert-jb8pg 6 ай бұрын
I've heard this recently and seems to be getting traction. I never got on board w the downsize craze. Only pulled out my smaller boards for no snow days, riding w the misses and focusing on riding fake. I've sat around 157-159 directional, directional twins. Sure, nice groomers, fresh groomers and that stellar pow daze. I've even pulled out my old k2 zeppelin 161. 2 yrs ago, I tried the downsize vol shift w an orca I got for a song End of season. Ho hum. I guess I'd rather have that longer edge. I snagged some end of season boards this year, and used boards from re:supply. Went longer, and some 3d's. Looking forward to this season for the next adventure. For stability and speed, your not gonna get that on a 153 unless your a buck 10, or less IMHO. Love shows, keep coming folks!
@lucasrocha633
@lucasrocha633 5 ай бұрын
I had 149 Rossi Evader, my first board and I had a lot of issues with chatter and instability.. I'm little and heavy guy.. 5'3 and 190lbs.. I love carving and "surfy" style.. I bought 54 Burton Custom Camber and OMG it's soo good..
@VoodooFoxCub
@VoodooFoxCub Ай бұрын
190lbs you should be looking at 158+
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain
@The-Man-On-The-Mountain 6 ай бұрын
46 years old here. It all depends on your taste, riding, and the board. I don't like big boards, but I bought a 159 Nitro Santoku because it's like a 156 (my normal size) due to the contact points distance. And for pow, I also prefer short fat boards like my Arbor Terrapin or my Split Bean.Those boards ride like a dream in deep pow. The terrapin is a nightmare in groomers though, but the split bean is amazing, and it carves in groomers amazingly well, it feels like a solid board, that thing is fkg amazing. I had 161 once, a splitboard, and I really struggled with it. It felt like a cruise ship, even in deep powder. And also for freestyle, I always liked to size down a bit. I've had tons of fun with 153 and even 151 boards. In fact, I started to hit really big jumps and learned to spin with a 151 back in the day.
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 6 ай бұрын
I’m guessing you don’t get many really deep pow days. I feel sorry for you. 😜
@markh5137
@markh5137 5 ай бұрын
Rode a 166 Burton Frontier for years. I'm about 5' 9". Longer boards are fun!
@phaethon3124
@phaethon3124 Ай бұрын
i sometimes put my snowskate deck on a 190 ski. so that is quite long but very manoeuvrable, easy to spin around switch,easy to put on edge to initiate a turn
@jeffreywoodford1812
@jeffreywoodford1812 8 күн бұрын
That’s wild. What kind of camber and sidecut on that ski?
@phaethon3124
@phaethon3124 8 күн бұрын
@jeffreywoodford1812 i think they were and old version of liberty helix 120mm under foot.happened to have screw holes same spacing as skate deck
@R33SHAFT
@R33SHAFT 5 ай бұрын
At 57yrs old & 110kg with gear, I've had my Burton Supermodel 181 since 2003 & I still ride it. My other ride is a 2006/7 F2 167 Eliminator LTD. My new purchase will be a 2025 Ride Superpig 154.
@Bohdisattva326
@Bohdisattva326 6 ай бұрын
Truth. Everyone rides boards too small. Then they say they’re Chattery and washy. I’m like looking at u “ the good ride” 😂
@evanjohnson1740
@evanjohnson1740 6 ай бұрын
"The 161 was great for my weight but the 158 was better for my size 9 boots at 190lbs..." 😒 sounds like you need to learn how to ride bruh
@Bohdisattva326
@Bohdisattva326 6 ай бұрын
@@evanjohnson1740😂😂😂. Nailed it
@alastor1052
@alastor1052 6 ай бұрын
"Got this out on some good groomers, had a blast carving with this thing but it got a little chattery at high speeds..." *Shows the same 2 slarved turns he always does* Nice fkn excuses, The Good Ride, real fkn nice
@S2000guy
@S2000guy 6 ай бұрын
Nice bromosexual. Real nice bro
@S2000guy
@S2000guy 6 ай бұрын
Nice Joe Brogan. Real nice bro 😎
@frankstringfellow151
@frankstringfellow151 3 ай бұрын
I rode Summit 196 Danger (FARMER) models a lot back in the 90's, they ruled! I made a lot of them with Link when I was working there. The only drawbacks I found with the long boards was ragdoll's at high speed hurt more than short boards, more board to rotate during the crash and they break easier on big cliff drops if you land wrong or too flat. Other than that they RULE!!
@duprazsnow9057
@duprazsnow9057 6 ай бұрын
That is why i been riding Dupraz 5'5" ++ (165cm) and Dupraz 6' + (178cm) they feel smaller but they are all around go to snowboard:)
@floimschnee4275
@floimschnee4275 6 ай бұрын
I ride a Dupraz 6'3 i.e. 193cm on powder days. Just sooo good how fast it is, enabling me to still ride turns where other boards need to go straight to not get stuck. I'm 192cm tall, 78kg.
@kosycat1
@kosycat1 5 ай бұрын
I'm no more than 140 pounds but I'm on a 156 Berzerker, and I can still throw it around on rails no problem. Also have 154 custom and free thinker. I like the stability of bigger boards,and don't mind it because I'm used to having a skate like aggresion
@mikemackenzie3305
@mikemackenzie3305 5 ай бұрын
I ride 159w-162w. Last few years been deep into volume shifted and running 152-155. Last January got a 195 doughboy and it's been my daily ever since.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@mikemackenzie3305 love it !! Our crew is all over that board also!
@eugenearchibald7375
@eugenearchibald7375 6 ай бұрын
169w Jones Flagship is my daily driver!
@robinbates612
@robinbates612 6 ай бұрын
How big are you? Currently looking at the flagship but I am 6'3" 250 and trying to decide length, currently on a ride Yukon 169W as a cruiser and a Burton blunt 158w for a trick board, but looking to do more cruising and bombing runs
@belibeli5908
@belibeli5908 6 ай бұрын
​@@robinbates612 Sound like you need a new board bro, yukon and blunt are 15 years old boards. Which is not a bad thing, i also have Destroyer from Forum 158..now I'm on Berzerker 167 and wouldn't go size down in a 1 mm. Im 6.3 200 lbs, and i would sacrifice stability and speed for anything
@edwardbaguley
@edwardbaguley 6 ай бұрын
I ride Lib Tech Box knits 160w for Less toe/heel drag. Really nice to carve and stable landing. I’m 98kg so it definitely works for me…
@leefitler4597
@leefitler4597 5 ай бұрын
Long, short, long, short -- guys gotta keep the market lubricated!
@jonhumphrey8783
@jonhumphrey8783 6 ай бұрын
I needed this video! Been debating getting a longer board. I typically ride 155/156 (I'm 5'10", 190lbs, size 10). I purchased a 155 Capita Aeronaut last year and absolutely loved it and how snappy edge to edge, how much pop, and the speed. I never toed out on groomer days, but on pow days, I defiantly got toe drag and started going over my nose landing in powder. I think a longer (and potentially wider) board would be the solution to the powder issues I had with the the shorter and nimble 155! Now the decision of a 157 , 159, or a 158W 🤔
@VoodooFoxCub
@VoodooFoxCub Ай бұрын
Especially at 190 pbs you should be riding like 160 boards
@stokedonphotos1
@stokedonphotos1 6 ай бұрын
I have everything from a 144 Sushi up to a 159 Surfer and everything in between. Weapon of choice depends on conditions, terrain, resort and what I'm feeling that day. I definitely would like to get on something a bit bigger this upcoming season and see what that experience is like.
@gregory49
@gregory49 6 ай бұрын
Love the vlog!!
@danf9782
@danf9782 2 ай бұрын
As someone who loves to charge, going from 161 to 165W on my Flagship immediately felt like a cheat code.
@robinmarriott00
@robinmarriott00 Ай бұрын
How tall are you?
@danf9782
@danf9782 Ай бұрын
@@robinmarriott00 I'm 6'2, 190lbs
@bestrongphysio9303
@bestrongphysio9303 Ай бұрын
My current quiver Dancehaul 147, Gentemstick Zephyr 160 and Gentemstick Flyfisk 164. Really only have the Dancehaul to teach my two kids on
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge Ай бұрын
we hope to get a Gentemstick on the show soon!
@kerrygorny2045
@kerrygorny2045 Ай бұрын
My smallest board is a 129 and my longest is a 203, it's a lot of fun to play around with length. I do probably need to fill the gaps between my 160s and my 203 though. Spent a lot of time obsessed with "downsizing" with short fats, largely due to manufacturers making even their "wide" models of regular length board too narrow (in what world is 260mm waist considered wide or ultra wide?). Definitely looking to try some boards in the 170 range this year, hoping to make it to this years dealer demo days!
@gpaull2
@gpaull2 6 ай бұрын
Spin to win, carve to grin. 161 is my short board.
@Fadesign100
@Fadesign100 6 ай бұрын
Big boards are sick
@jm3262
@jm3262 5 ай бұрын
Love these comments. Straight riders here.
@AdamSmallwood-qk4ee
@AdamSmallwood-qk4ee 6 ай бұрын
excellent. I was choosing between the 56 or 59 orca split and now going with 59. I have the 53 solid and love it for resort riding. I figure my BC riding will be mostly low angle...
@VoodooFoxCub
@VoodooFoxCub Ай бұрын
Orca needs to be sized down since it's a volume shifted board
@bartman8876
@bartman8876 4 ай бұрын
Just went from 159w to 165w. Anxious to see how the ride differs
@teeimsaza5718
@teeimsaza5718 6 ай бұрын
I've just begun to start upsizing my boards recently but my only concern is tree riding. Def is harder to whip around trees on a 166 for me when i'm 5'10" and 188lbs
@spray_skiers
@spray_skiers 6 ай бұрын
really like these vlogs! good content!
@StuartGreenley
@StuartGreenley 6 ай бұрын
YES!!!
@ElevenEightNate
@ElevenEightNate 6 ай бұрын
Normally in the 157-158 range, just picked up a 161 Navigator as a travel board!
@Sixteenbearings
@Sixteenbearings 6 ай бұрын
I rode longer boards for ever and at some point convinced myself I needed smaller… looks like I may need to get back on the long board train!
@finboyYYC
@finboyYYC 6 ай бұрын
Mine range 154 to 159, considering a stepping up to 158 from my usual 154 daily driver (same model) for deeper days
@seanbob99
@seanbob99 6 ай бұрын
61W Mega Death!!!!!!! Love Hawaiian shirt 🤙🏼
@Drift-Products
@Drift-Products 6 ай бұрын
There are a lot of factors to consider here, but for sure in the last few years the industry has pushed it and a lot of riders are riding too small. Depending on how and where you ride (especially the backcountry), there’s absolutely no substitute for more board underfoot. Just ask Mikkel Bang!
@ancro2040
@ancro2040 4 ай бұрын
I am getting one new board this season. I am 160lbs at 5’8 and a US8 boot. The board should be interesting and fun. I have all kinds of boards in my quiver. Right now I am torn between the Banked Country 159 and the Stranda Shorty 164.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 4 ай бұрын
@@ancro2040 banked country ! ♥️
@ancro2040
@ancro2040 4 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge Thanks❤️ I tend to like camber dominant and lively boards and I like to get the board up on the edge. Is this board more lively or damped? I must say I like the idea of fin bite from the back. I do a lot of surfing. Still I like a front footed carve where I wander towards the back foot during the carve but this is probably a bord that can challenge me and learn me something new❤️
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 4 ай бұрын
@@ancro2040 you will love it - very responsive and just so unique on the apex of a turn!
@ancro2040
@ancro2040 4 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge ❤️
@TheCwazyduck
@TheCwazyduck 6 ай бұрын
My newest board is short at 162 for tree riding , park board is 165, and my old 168 eldorado is still a favourite.
@Yetieddie
@Yetieddie 3 ай бұрын
My powder board is a 153cm and I love it!
@gnar_tar
@gnar_tar 6 ай бұрын
unpopular opinion, ride with bindings further up than reference stance!! Don't ride back seat, charge the nose
@johnbartender3451
@johnbartender3451 6 ай бұрын
Could you make a video about splitboard technology ? (How it is secured together, binding, boots, cost of the overall set-up). Otherwise, informative video.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
@@johnbartender3451 will Do !
@johnbartender3451
@johnbartender3451 6 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge thank you !!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
just launched a vlog on some of this ! check it out :)
@johnbartender3451
@johnbartender3451 6 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge cool !! I’l watch the episode tonight when I get back from work 😄 Edit: So far, I use specialized snowshoes. Slower, but they gets me up there nonetheless.
@orlandoarellano7390
@orlandoarellano7390 6 ай бұрын
I tend to like shorter boards as they are more tossable but maybe ill try a big boy
@Oxy404
@Oxy404 5 ай бұрын
I think it helps a ton when you’re developing to do it with a bigger board. It’s possible to do everything people do on smaller boards, on the bigger ones. In addition you get the speed stability and surfy feel too. Definitely is harder to toss around tho
@alastor1052
@alastor1052 6 ай бұрын
my regular boards are 165's, but I ride a hovy 1.0 160, slightly volume shifted :)
@ShanQueefus
@ShanQueefus 6 ай бұрын
Midwest rider checking in, no one rides big boards here.
@ShanQueefus
@ShanQueefus 6 ай бұрын
@_-0_x_-_p_0-_ we barely get snow any more also.
@fky1226
@fky1226 6 ай бұрын
You can see 165cm tall guys riding a 162W board performing extremely low JSBA style carve everywhere in Japan
@tibbytt5503
@tibbytt5503 6 ай бұрын
Liking the short vlog format
@andersonday3196
@andersonday3196 5 ай бұрын
170 sensei and 168 moonbuggy ❤
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@andersonday3196 that Sensei is amazing !
@danielturczyn6773
@danielturczyn6773 4 ай бұрын
long boards, more effective edge, and narrow-ish waist widths are where its at and nobody makes em. as a 188cm tall dude at 200lbs, we need longer boards.
@PeterPlaunt
@PeterPlaunt 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for doing these vlogs. Short, sweet and interesting. For the next one can you mic up please. Too much background chatter. Have a great summer.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
IPhone action ! Haha , will grab a condenser mic soon 🫡
@losalexey518
@losalexey518 2 күн бұрын
I’ve just bought GNU Gremlin in 155 . I am 5 10, 167 lbs , 10.5 US size boots. What do you think is it a good fit for my specs?
@seblatapie
@seblatapie 6 ай бұрын
So torn! 'm 5'8 170 lbs. I grew up riding park from 151 - 154. Currently ride a volume shifted SuperPig in 151. I'm hesitating about getting the MegaDeath in 156 vs 157W
@floimschnee4275
@floimschnee4275 6 ай бұрын
Funny, that boards with a length of 159 or 161cm are considered long... ;) My boards: Dupraz 193cm (powder) Goodboards Legends 179cm (full camber, carving) Three 178-180cm splitboards, one (light) Hovercraft-like 164cm. I'm 192cm, 78kg.
@jrose152
@jrose152 2 ай бұрын
5’9” 130lbs male. Bought a capita aeronaut in 153 waiting for it to arrive in the mail. Should I exchange it for the 155cm? Pairing with union falcor bindings. Shoe are 9-9.5
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 2 ай бұрын
Really Depends but it is on the small side with what we are talking about these days! However - if you are not riding powder where you live , then it should be just fine!
@warrens4808
@warrens4808 6 ай бұрын
Regarding the fore/aft stability... I remember trying out a Fat Bob 165 (RIP AM) and landing in the front seat, with the board catching me into a stable landing. I thought I was a super hero. If you go back to the early 2000s there was a brief trend to go larger. I still have my Supermodel 168 from back then. I had to stop riding it for a few reasons. First, the slopes got way too crowded to let it run. Second, it was a bear to turn in the trees. Third, after a few seasons on it I was not able to go as much, and my legs were not in shape to handle it like it should be handled. All that said, that thing could lay an edge, haul ass, and was fun. I moved to a SupermodelX 160, which was my primary board for 10+ years. I currently ride two different 158s, but apparently need to check out that Megadeath in a 162.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
@@warrens4808 you DO need to check that Mega 🤘
@warrens4808
@warrens4808 5 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge Did you settle on a size for your mega? Last year you said you'd want a 157W and in this you said 161W, so I am curious where you're landing.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@warrens4808 161W ! :)
@jeremiahaltfater7658
@jeremiahaltfater7658 6 ай бұрын
170W Custom, not enough brands make bigger boards or bigger sizes for outerwear. I heard Burton is making more taller sizes for outerwear for W26.
@jpwookie22
@jpwookie22 6 ай бұрын
Need that Mega Death in the 169W size. C’mon Capita, make it happen.
@flemingg11
@flemingg11 6 ай бұрын
172!
@GuglielmoMannaia
@GuglielmoMannaia 4 ай бұрын
Be nice if there were boards that would remove toe and heel drag for size 14 boots!
@djjohnr
@djjohnr 2 ай бұрын
Related question - how far outside of recommended boot size can you go for a one board quiver that will spend time carving as well as bombing pow? I'm 185 with a size 8 boot at 179cm and was recently looking at a Jones Flagship. Based on weight I could ride anything from a 161 to a 172 (I think a 164 would be ideal), but based on boot size I'd be limited to a 158. The problem is pervasive as the Flagship is relatively narrow compared to most freeride boards out there.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 2 ай бұрын
We don't often worry about the small boots on any model - leverage will come with the stance angles and your riding style ( this is where height play into added leverage) The 164 will be just fine!
@BIGDOGSNOW
@BIGDOGSNOW 6 ай бұрын
169w BSoD and 170 Skunk Ape Camber, would ride bigger ones if they made them.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
That Lib doughboy is next !
@sethoselken9562
@sethoselken9562 5 ай бұрын
Smallest board I got is a 161 slash. 168w krypto, 172 Jones flagship, 167 XV split. 180lbs 6'3. I don't understand riding smaller boards. Sure, butter spins but the big boards are great for that if you work the flex and got skills. Small boards just don't work in BC pow.
@LordMoFo
@LordMoFo Ай бұрын
When you pick a longer board, do you tend to make any adjustments to the width or setback of your bindings to improve control of the size? I recently went up from a 154cm to 159 cm, and I'm still experimenting with this. I'm older, and no longer playing in the park as much, so the size has absolutely been fun and aided more to my more freeride style now.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge Ай бұрын
Hi! Most of the crew go with a bit wider stance when sizing up in boards . you can add an inch for every 5Cm you increase from your normal size!
@HeyRiigby
@HeyRiigby 6 ай бұрын
Well I’m looking for a new board, I’m 6’2 210, I like to just cruise the mountain now without getting hurt as I’m older. Has to be decent in powder since we get a few good powder days in a year as well. 😊
@bopuc
@bopuc 6 ай бұрын
Look at something like the Stranda Shorty 168. Super nice mellow and fun ride. (Not sponsored or anything just my own experience resonating with what you said. have fun!)
@HeyRiigby
@HeyRiigby 6 ай бұрын
@@bopuc appreciate it, I will write that down and check it out
@neilgendzwill3260
@neilgendzwill3260 6 ай бұрын
My longest is a Rad Air Tanker 200.
@RichardHill-t5u
@RichardHill-t5u 6 ай бұрын
I have three boards,156,164,159
@CDarcy1
@CDarcy1 6 ай бұрын
Also - do not upsize a Jones Freecarver! But DO buy a Jones Freecarver!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
@@CDarcy1 truth !!!
@ukann
@ukann 6 ай бұрын
You mentioned the contact points on longer boards, would that refer to the effective edge? So if you could get a shorter board with longer effective edge, would that give you a bit of the best of both worlds?
@kriild
@kriild 6 ай бұрын
Sounds good, but bigger boards tend to have wider waists, which complicates things a little, especially for women on men's boards. With love ;)
@bopuc
@bopuc 6 ай бұрын
No they don't. Depends on the design of the board, just like shorter boards. Have you seen Pogo snowboards? Go take a look at that. Or even the Nitro Cannon 200. Thinner than most 158's!
@eliottwaters
@eliottwaters 6 ай бұрын
So every time I went longer it was harder to turn. I’m 5-8 170lbs I’m riding a Jone mountain twin 154. Last longer board I had was a K2 159 rocker, about 15 years ago.
@Drift-Products
@Drift-Products 6 ай бұрын
Definitely need to try some of the newer shapes.
@eliottwaters
@eliottwaters 6 ай бұрын
@@Drift-Products Yeah I do have the Ride peace seeker in a 147 and the spring break slush slasher 147. So I want replace my mountain twin this season. What would you recommend?
@Drift-Products
@Drift-Products 6 ай бұрын
@@eliottwaters with similar intent as the mountain twin?
@eliottwaters
@eliottwaters 6 ай бұрын
@@Drift-Products Yes something all round daily driver. I was looking at the Jones Stratos or maybe the Capita Aeronaut. I live on the east coast. But I go to Verbier once a year and out west. Just nice to get your opinion. Thanks Eliott.
@Drift-Products
@Drift-Products 6 ай бұрын
@@eliottwaters the Aeronaut is rad. The yes standard uninc was my favorite all rounder after last season, and does well in icier terrain and pow. The Stratos was fine but less inspiring than my experience with most jones boards.
@brandondjor2850
@brandondjor2850 3 ай бұрын
Hey Fzy, I ride wide too because of my big size 12 feet. But, I'm a light 155ish lb 6foot guy that started years ago with 160W and have worked down to 158W. I can rip extremely aggressively and love that, but I finding that it's a lot of work to turn this longboard at times...and it can get sloppy in those tight spots clipping nose or tail. Should I be aiming for those 155W 156W? They're harder to come by than the massive Wides because most guys with big feet tend to be 50lbs+ on me. PS great BC channel, love from Kamloops!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 3 ай бұрын
Cheers! Thanks for the support! Best thing here is to focus on the side cuts on the models you are interested in - lower radius will help with the sluggish turning, that way you can stack to 58's or longer!
@brandondjor2850
@brandondjor2850 3 ай бұрын
@tributeboardshop cheers! Many thanks!
@luiserazo2377
@luiserazo2377 Ай бұрын
What about a volume shifted board? Like the Ride psychocandy where they recommend sizing down?
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge Ай бұрын
@@luiserazo2377 yes , this concept does not apply there ! We have gone back to length over the volume shifted shorties 😃
@luiserazo2377
@luiserazo2377 Ай бұрын
Gotcha! So instead of sizing down you keep your "usual" length?
@Fleijah
@Fleijah 3 сағат бұрын
Wish I could but there are barely any boards my size as is at 6'4 size 13
@Jean-WilliamBedard
@Jean-WilliamBedard Ай бұрын
Hey guys nice video thanks for the tips ! I’m still just not sure about my project, I’m 5’11 and I weight 168 pounds and I am looking for a board that i could use in the powder but in the park too. I tought about the mind expander twin and there is one right now for sale with a good discount on it. It’s a 162 but i usually ride a 158. I know it would help me in the freeride style to be more stable but would it affect negatively my riding in the park ? There’s also the fact that I like to spin a lot, so maybe going for a bigger board isn’t the best option in this scenario ?
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge Ай бұрын
@@Jean-WilliamBedard hit the guys over on patreon for these In depth questions ! That 162 might be a bit big!
@puckoberto
@puckoberto 6 ай бұрын
This is for freeride, powder and carving. Allot of different riders out there. The short wide trend i,am over cause its to short. And hard to turn.
@rideordietheyretring2tranx382
@rideordietheyretring2tranx382 Ай бұрын
*laughs in doughboy*
@UncIe_Drew
@UncIe_Drew 5 ай бұрын
Just came here to say i just bought my shortest board. Its a 157w and im smack dab in the middle of the recommended wieght. Its also the softest board I've ever bought. The intent was to be playful with the family, good in tight trees and good in pow. I have a stiffer 162 pow board. So i have options. My norm is a 160 as.an all around. But now with these 2 board my next all around 0 to minimal taper board may be longer. Had a 164 once and didnt like it. But I have come to realize it not the length but not the right board for what I was doing. I'm 180lbs. What lengths do you like for tight trees? Barely glades stuff? What about for moguls? Cause damn it skiers!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
Tight Trees is where we look at the tapered longer boards - Jones Stratos , Capita Navigator , or Korua Pencil for examples..... lots of nose but quick turning!
@UncIe_Drew
@UncIe_Drew 5 ай бұрын
Ha! I was just talking to a capita rep at a local store. We spoke about the Navigator but it was not in the store. Also the stratos and that was out of my price range. I'm looking at sales and demo boards so I can play with a few things this year. No one has korua locally that I have seen. Anyway the capita rep helped me pick out a deck that was there... lol. It's a weston backwoods 157w. It has 18 mil of taper, pretty deep sidecut and not too set back on the inserts. Do you guys have experience with this brand at all? They are local Denver and a GP87 built board. I went with a 157w cause I thought it would be easier to throw around. They had a few 160w's and I could exchange it. I was looking for a more playful board then I generally ride. Do you think it's the wrong choice in length? At 180 lbs I'm right in the middle of the weight range for the 157w and in the lower half for 160w. I'm a 11.5 boot and actually the 157w will be the widest board I have ever had. I also picked up a demo storm wolf 162 to try this year. Knowing this would you still go to a longer backwoods or keep the 157w to be different. Sorry I need help deciding 😂
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@UncIe_Drew so the capita rep picked out a Weston? hmmmmm odd move ;) You will 100% love the storm wolf ! That's a very versatile deck actually!
@UncIe_Drew
@UncIe_Drew 5 ай бұрын
​​@@Riders_Lounge yeah he did... lol. We looked at a lot of boards. But were only looking at boards in stock that were on sale. Because I wanted to be able to afford a couple of boards this year. So it was a pick of what was there really. So from a 157w to a 160w do you think the 157w would be on the twitchy side? Would the 160w be less maneuverable then the 157w. Or is this not much of a size difference to matter. Yes I'm excited to try the storm wolf!!! Edit: the capita guy showed me capita boards first but there was only 2 in stock and both were not what I was looking for at this time. So he helped me go through what was there. Ps.. he didn't seem to agree that mini disk could set you back farther. But he didn't come across as a freestyle guy so I'm not sure if he rode the mini disk bindings much.
@UncIe_Drew
@UncIe_Drew 5 ай бұрын
Yep, 157w was sitting right with either. So I swapped it out and took home the 160w 😊
@rolandmair2278
@rolandmair2278 4 ай бұрын
About to pick up a Rome ravine pro… I’m an advanced rider at 5’11’’, 185lbs I was gonna go with the 158, but you guys are making me consider the 162. Worried the 162 won’t be nimble enough in trees and stuff. Wondering if you have any advice or thoughts on sizing? Ps I love hard charging, this will be my pow stick, but do like to go into moguls and trees also 🤷‍♂️
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 4 ай бұрын
That 58 might me ok - also consider the Banked Country as an alternative! 159 would be the go to there!
@rolandmair2278
@rolandmair2278 4 ай бұрын
⁠@@Riders_Loungethank you for the response!! Keep up the great work!
@richardsnider3807
@richardsnider3807 5 ай бұрын
I was just curious what size boot you are riding on that 161 Mega Death? Thanks for your help!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
size 10 !
@klymitch
@klymitch 2 ай бұрын
I just ordered a gnu banked country in a 159cm . I’m 6’ 165 lbs size 11. Trying to stay away from wides. Should I send it back for a 162cm???
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 2 ай бұрын
@@klymitch If you are in the powder belt and only ride on the deep days then maybe the 162 - otherwise the 59 should be all good !
@UncIe_Drew
@UncIe_Drew 6 ай бұрын
Alright this was fun to watch. Well I missed the whole short board craze tbh. Though I feel I have always picked a board just long enough to be stable. As I also like to remain maneuverable in tight trees. For me tight trees are small trunk non pine trees think aspen and maybe i shouldn't be there bit i have fun. I know length isn't everything but i just didnt want a nose to long to swing around. I usually ride a 160 and i am 6ft tall 175-180 and boots are bigish at 11.5. That said i usually dont buy wide specific boards though look a not too skinny option. I used to ride on riser plates back in the day instead of a wide. So with length would you guys recommend getting a length that puts us in the bottom half of a recommended weight? Recently moved to a 162 and have owned 164 in the past. But I have found the 160 to be a pretty good all around. I'm asking cause i have been thinking of a shorter more playful board to mess around on. Lots of those volume shifts just seem too short tho.
@ataft85
@ataft85 5 ай бұрын
You guys ripping trees with these big boards? I got a 164 flagship that I just don't think I could swing around too easily if things got tight.
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
Spent a lot of Days at Baldface on a 164 Dark Series... and its moderately tree's up there! Lots of Speed and always thinking 4 turns ahead! 🙂
@ataft85
@ataft85 5 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge fair enough. I was up at Red last season running Needles on a 156 and I was happy it wasn't any longer. Skill issue no doubt, but is there a type of profile you guys like in the trees over others?
@jeffreywoodford1812
@jeffreywoodford1812 6 ай бұрын
Most competent riders who aren’t focused on park/freestyle could benefit from at least trying bigger boards. A couple of centimeters is nothing. Go big, like 10-20cm bigger than you normally ride. Most of my boards are in the 160-165 range but I’ve got a couple in the 170s and a 195 Doughboy Shredder. My shortest is a 151 Slush Slasher.
@RichC-w7s
@RichC-w7s 6 ай бұрын
STRANDA Snowboards does longer boards better than any brand! 8m radius on a 170cm!
@ssbvl448
@ssbvl448 3 ай бұрын
I usually ride 150-155 do you think i can go 164? I want a korua cafe racer
@swich.69
@swich.69 5 ай бұрын
In need of some advice please. I’m a begginer/intermediate rider from Oz. We don’t get powder but I’m travelling to Japan. When facturing one’s weight for board selection, I assume we add (or wear when weighing) all the gear we would normally wear to our body weight? I’m 173cm (5’8) at 68kg (150lb) without gear and boot size 9.5US. What length of board is recommended for freeride/carving in Japow?
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@swich.69 shane is a similar side and rides a 159 Korua Pencil at the bery minimum in pow ! That moght be a good one to look into 👊
@swich.69
@swich.69 5 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge have my eyes on a 2019 Jones Hovercraft 160. Thoughts?
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@swich.69 that one rides bigger so you could consider the 156 ! Amazing board and also a great choice
@hossfox30
@hossfox30 5 ай бұрын
I ride a 156, 158 wide, and my jones flagship is a 167.
@ekramhossain1982
@ekramhossain1982 5 ай бұрын
5'5" and 160 lbs.........go for 161 cm Golden Orca? Shop told me that it is too big for me!
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 5 ай бұрын
@@ekramhossain1982 thats a vokume shifted model , go with a 156
@TRIKushbeachside
@TRIKushbeachside 6 ай бұрын
Different size situation here, using photons from 23/24 and the flex is right where I like it but I have a big problem. I have relatively large bone spurs on both my feet but my left foot is the worst, do you have any recommendations on a couple boots to look at that are in the flex zone of the photons but have a softer tongue/top of the foot section? I’m in brutal FL and there isn’t a good board shop anywhere really, I was kinda looking around and was thinking maybe something like DC transcend or Judge, Maybe Thirtytwo TM-2? I haven’t been able to try any boots other than Burton really and am looking for something that’s maybe a tiny bit wider than the photons with a softer top section for the bone spurs. After like 3 hours I have to stop because it feels like my foot is being crushed in a vice. I’ve tried having my heel strap on the looser side but that only buys me an extra run or 2. Thank you from a mountain starved FL man
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 6 ай бұрын
@@TRIKushbeachside For sure look at the 32 TM2 , we find it to be one of the best for form fitting issues ! You can spot mold with heat so this allows you to dial in and expand the areas you have issues with …. Go with those
@TRIKushbeachside
@TRIKushbeachside 6 ай бұрын
@@Riders_Lounge thank you
@garretkojima3153
@garretkojima3153 3 ай бұрын
Would the Korua Pintonic fit in the modern longboard?
@Riders_Lounge
@Riders_Lounge 3 ай бұрын
Oh Ya! That's a very fun and proper longboard!
@lgaud11
@lgaud11 4 ай бұрын
Is it true that a longer board os more work for your muscles? Middle aged now with injuries 😂
@32srt32
@32srt32 6 ай бұрын
148-152cm, boards get too wide when they get bigger with my sz 8 boot. start feeling like planks instead of nimble tools. we dont get much powder at Bear Mtn.
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