Triceps Tendinosis Exercise and Pathophysiology

[@treadathletics]

Thanks for making this Max

[@OverheadAthletics]

Thank you ✊🏼

[@DustyTail]

This is the best, most complete, from symptoms, diagnosis, to treatment, I have seen. And I’ve seen a lot of them. Edit; Thank you.

[@OverheadAthletics]

Thank you!

[@yousefaziz238]

Amazing video not many people cover info about the tricep

[@Johngaltsghost]

Wow - this is exactly what I am experiencing but from a Max Trainer and in my dominant arm only; thanks!

[@jaimejrsibucao133]

Thanks for this video

[@OverheadAthletics]

✊🏼

[@WilliamGone]

i needed this

[@OverheadAthletics]

👍🏻

[@ethanblair9837]

Great video. I have question. How many times a week should you be doing this exercises early on?

[@OverheadAthletics]

Around 3-4 days a week but also depends on the severity of the tendinosis. But every other day is a good place to start!

[@TheShmrsh]

Btw to author - any ideas on tendon which connects long head to scapula? cuz i have pain in there too

[@WilliamGone]

same

[@TheHandsomeOne]

I've had left trycep tendinosis for about 8 years now. Is it still possible if I go through these exercises, that I could possibly get back to the gym and start lifting again? Or will the left trycep still be weaker than the right?

[@zohaib183]

8 years god damn sorry to hear man. I’ve had it for 3 years and been miserable

[@TheShmrsh]

​@@zohaib183 I be celebrating 10 yrs next year lmaoo

[@TheShmrsh]

In theory it is possible, I was treating it like tennis elbow for long time and it got better , next year I'll be doing all these triceps techniques exclusively and see how it goes

[@zohaib183]

@@TheShmrsh good luck man I’ve been self rehabilitating and I’m still stuck at where I started 🥲

[@JASSO44]

Thanks for the info!! I had my left distal tricep attached back to my elbow back in July. Haven’t hit a weight since June. Got my other elbow MRI and turns out I have tendonosis in both elbow. I have a question. In the video it says progress from isometric loads to eccentric loading to eccentric catches. Is there a moment in that process where lifting is allowed if lifting is pain free?

[@gothops2632]

How is your triceps tendon feeling now?

[@TheShmrsh]

No , it's it purely should be based on your own feelings and intuition , if you do everything right I would progress once in few month so that in a year span I end up doing all these techniques while still training pulling muscles

[@CleverThoughts1]

I have been a very heavy lifter since I was 15, now 36 (including arm workouts), and have constantly had tendinitis/Tendinosis on and off on 1 arm since I started training. I always thought it was tendinitis, but now that I'm aware of Tendinosis, I believe it's that. I have started strengthening the tendon with resistance bands 5-6 sets a day and see an improvement as well as cross-friction massage at home. Do you have any other tips apart from what you say in the video? I thought of going for professional massage 2-3 times a week on my tricep, breaking up all that scar tissue and assisting in the tendon healing properly, or would the home cross-friction massage suffice? My physio tell me most of her patient's tendons on the triceps are thin and not very noticeable but mine are extremely prominent, defined and very developed,. She says I have the most prominent tendons she's felt and would be an excellent candidate for uni students to feel unequivocally what a tendon feels like :) Great video BTW!

[@Nikoncha]

You can massage your triceps at home too with a lacrosse ball. It hurts, but it works well for loosening up the muscle. I would also recommend blood flow work for the triceps and elbow. A few sets of light weight and very high rep push down sets of 50-100 reps.

[@OverheadAthletics]

Glad you are seeing some improvement and the video provided you with some insight into your injury! On top of what you are doing, I would suggest some scraping (with Grastin) which could help break up the scar tissue and promote healing at the site of the injured tissues. Massage could help as well but it's hard to say how much. Light stretching and strengthening of the surrounding structures followed by some soft tissue treatment may be the best plan of action. Thanks!

[@BiancaMartinez-p1y]

How long do you recommend a kid take time off from playing or throwing the ball if he’s been diagnosed with this? We don’t plan on having him get back to pitching or catching anytime soon but what about infield work?

[@OverheadAthletics]

It would depend based on the severity. Typically, we would recommend physical therapy and 4-8 weeks off if the tricep tendon is vey flared up. If it's not too bad, we would typically recommend just physical therapy and then a gradual progression into throwing and see how he does with it. Hope this helps!

[@WhataTofu]

i get a sharp pain in my anconeus area when i bend my elbow fully, and at the bottom of my bench press. will these be the same exercises to do?

[@OverheadAthletics]

This would definitely help strengthen those surrounding structures and tissues! There would be a couple isolation exercises you could do to target the anconeus specifically but these exercises would be a great place to start!

[@pag93]

I am almost 3 years into this , do you think is still hope? In any case i ll try it.

[@OverheadAthletics]

I do, you may investigate PRP and other orthobiologics

[@sixsense119]

How many days will it take to fully cure ?

[@thefryingpan951]

how often should i do this? once a day? every other day?

[@thefryingpan951]

@@randomguy0113 yeah man but i followed another youtbue video. basically just do whatever u can where the pain is a 3/10, twice a day for 25 reps and every week increase the weight just a liiiil bit. in 3 months if you follow this principle bro you'd be doing wayyy better

[@hassanelhaddad-8983]

@@thefryingpan951could u plz tell me the exercises you followed and how many reps and groups per exercise

[@theformoguy]

16:15 lmao the kid is staring into my soul

[@OverheadAthletics]

😂😂

[@lents3118]

hey max. just wondering have you ever had this yourself before?

[@OverheadAthletics]

I have had tendinosis, I also treat patients with it daily

[@lents3118]

@@OverheadAthletics yes it sucks man. im at the stage where the morning pain when i wake up has gone in my tricep. what stage of healing would i be at do you rekon?

[@lents3118]

@@OverheadAthletics but from your experience does it heal up good and fully? just a little worried about it thats all

[@evanrobinette4359]

Can the athlete continue to perform low intensity upper extremity compound lifts like bench press and push-ups?

[@OverheadAthletics]

As long as it doesn’t aggravate it while performing it or increase achy sensation following. Listen to your body.

[@TheShmrsh]

What the point? Weights are gonna be abundantly reduced

[@stickpuck8017]

Great video. Thanks for this. Subscribed. I've had tricep tendonopthy for almost 2 years. I was progressing well along the lines you presented here but it's been taking so long. How can you measure healing without imaging? For example, I was able to progress to concentric moves with light weight after 6 months, feeling good. Then one game of hockey and my elbow was so sore... I was so sad and deflated.

[@OverheadAthletics]

80% will see resolution of symptoms at 10-12 months when doing the right things. It’s a long process. But that is progress. Keep the faith

[@TheShmrsh]

Forget about sports at least for couple of years but you can do all pulling excercises at max effort anyway

[@JohanLiebert47]

how is it now

[@stickpuck8017]

@@JohanLiebert47 just finished 10 rounds Shockwave and had the ultrasound guided lavage yesterday. We'll know in two weeks if that did the trick or not. Edit: this was due to a 1cm calcium deposit in the tricep tendon.

[@solitaryman172]

​@@stickpuck8017and now, how is it?

[@liltoto371]

Lmao the kid in the bg😂 cute

[@laytonstanner7936]

Mines burning with spasms it's been 8 months and I've had enough. I'm at my lowest point now. Just wanna die swear to god

[@OverheadAthletics]

Try some of these exercises and see how it feels in a couple of weeks. Have you taken some time off from using it extensively?

[@laytonstanner7936]

@OverheadAthletics I've taken 8 months away from the gym :/ I've lost large amount of muscle and I've gotten no where with it at all. I've gotta be doing something wrong. I noticed hammer curls made it worse but bicep curls was OK. I was doing esctrenic push ups 3x10 and then isometric holds. Then I tried 4.5kg band push downs and then all burning and spasms came back 😳 im just like do I need surgery gotta be chronic now at this point

[@laytonstanner7936]

@OverheadAthletics the escentric push ups taken the pain away but not the burn and spasms

[@ConstantineAndreas]

9-12 months? Well that stinks.

[@OverheadAthletics]

Do everything right and you can expedite that. From nutrition and hydration to load management. Best of luck!

[@ConstantineAndreas]

@@OverheadAthletics Thank you, I appreciate that. I'm 3+ months into rehab now. Working with my long-time DPT who I swear by. Seeing progress, but still not healed. We're doing BFR (blood flow restriction) and aggressive strengthening, like ten pound wrist curls and stuff. The club. Military push-ups and triceps extensions. I have triceps tendinopathy and tennis elbow. Integral to my recovery has also been scraping, dry needling and the massage gun. Scraping I'm very happy to report seems to be the key treatment on my lateral epicondyle. I also have a healthy diet and I take several supplements that I read help the regeneration of tendons. Good luck to everyone reading this. I'll update when I'm finally healed but that's the blueprint of the treatment I'm using. I've had this issue for 11+ years tho it went away for six years when I was very inactive physically. I've had numerous surgeons and therapists screw up my recovery plan (rest, ice, anti-inflammatories being their flawed treatment plan mainly, with weak physical therapy that didn't challenge my tendons whatsoever).

[@AhmedMohamed-qd3qq]

@@ConstantineAndreasany updates? Hope you’re doing well

[@AhmedMohamed-qd3qq]

@@ConstantineAndreasi have the same condition as yours , triceps Tendinopathy + tennis elbow for 2 years now and I’m starting PRP and rehab soon , any recommendations for what worked for you?

[@ConstantineAndreas]

@@AhmedMohamed-qd3qq Yea so I'm mostly good now. I'll probably always battle this, but it's way better now. Scraping, strengthening and dry needling were the key. You need to find a DPT to dry needle you once a week, pecking at the origin site. I still rehab it like twice a week, but I'm a gym rat so it's easy. BFR helped a lot too. Scraping twice a week is super key too. I began rehabbing it with a DPT in March 2023 and it is still going, just at home. I'll get it needled once in a while, but all my rehab is at home now. It takes a while. Good luck. The needling was so painful that I didn't golf for a good 5-6 months really. But I golf regularly now. WHen I get it needled tho, I need to let it rest for several days after, so no golf til the symptoms go away.

[@TheShmrsh]

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