Tricky In Mevagissey

Trots are mostly used where a tidal or river flow are present, but they do crop up occasionally in harbours - and with no stream to keep the boat in line an understanding of what the wind is going to do can be really useful.

[@ushi120]

nice video, very informative. Thanks for that. It seams that this instructor like to teach the hard way. 😂 There are a lot of advantages to do it the opposite way, especially with modern monohulls. 1. Much easier and better control while steering stern-to against the Wind to the first buoy. 2. Easier to pick up the windward buoy from the stern. 3. With two stern-lines from both cleats attached to the first buoy (windward) you have a perfect controllability of the vessel to pick up the second buoy (leeward) from the bow. 4. Drop the buoy and leaving the harbour much easier. Disadvantage: The wind is blowing into the cockpit, this can be annoying.

[@theboatcheat1204]

The problem here is that the wind changes direction almost instantly if the mean wind is from the wrong direction, as it switches from going one side of the high ground to the other... but your points are all correct of course.

[@kevburrows1955]

Thanks another interesting lesson, quietly logged away for when its needed . Thanks 🙏

[@mcharlesbourne8954]

Very interesting - definitely one to squirrel away for future reference I think. Thanks for posting

[@theboatcheat1204]

@@mcharlesbourne8954 Thanks… Really glad you found it potentially useful!

[@1962gms]

I think that the lesson from this is use a very long bow line to give you the opportunity to adjust. The first line never looked like it was right. Once you are attached at both ends it is easy to adjust.

[@theboatcheat1204]

Good point!

[@jasonchamberlin1532]

Useful video. i think my preference would have been to rig the bow line as a bridle and then pay it out whilst the helm went astern until about 4-5 feet off the other buoy, then made it fast - head to the stern and then use the engine power to get close enough to rig the stern line and centre the boat.

[@theboatcheat1204]

@@jasonchamberlin1532 I do a similar thing in leaving the bow line slack enough to get the transom next to the other buoy, then adjust using engine power…

[@jonscott8586]

1:00 - 3.00 mins that poor woman will forever be on KZbin scratching her bum 😂

[@theboatcheat1204]

Haha! To be fair I think she was unsnagging her cardie, but it does look like she's scratching her bum!

[@martinbuckle9904]

From outset I think I would have added a spring line to the bow mooring line - through a bow fairlead and back to the cockpit to make controlling the length easy from the cockpit rather than faffing up and down the deck

[@billgiles3261]

That would be my choice too, cannot be doing with all that running back and forwards with a chance of a misstep.

[@buoycatcher-thestressfreem1542]

Boat hook seems very short which is ok for the very agile who can kneel down and bend over the bow. It would be far more useful to use a telescopic pole to reach pick up buoy but the rest of the video is very good.

[@RonaldJHElzenga]

Interesting and instructive!! I liked as a skipper👍.. (but advice of this regular KZbin channel viewer..keep the music parts on same sound level as spoken parts..otherwise you get this unpleasant advertisement heigher volume effect that needs to be corrected constantly)

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

As a single hander, not a task I fancy.

[@fat_tommo_goes_boating]

Wow that was a faff 😂 Great explanations though!

[@theboatcheat1204]

@@fat_tommo_goes_boating Thanks!

[@brianparsons3536]

Thanks for the video - I didn’t know that wind veers when it gusts in the northern hemisphere. Is this always the case? Re the boat handling, could you not grab the buoy at the bow, put a line on, put the engine in neutral and then have the helsman put the stern on, calling to the skip to pay out more line as necessary?

[@theboatcheat1204]

Absolutely… we will be doing one on the handling of trots with and without current - but the queue is long!

[@theboatcheat1204]

Yes it is always the case, and it always backs in the Southern hemisphere… it is to do with coriolis.

[@kevburrows1955]

In general yes, but don't gusts tend to come down and then fan out when they hit the surface so where you are relative to the gust makes a difference?

[@kevingerald8286]

Hi. Interesting video, thanks. What is the longest boat that can be mounted on these trots? Cheers

[@theboatcheat1204]

Thank you! 45 ft / 13.7 m

[@andrewmcgregor8645]

Could you do a video navigating round Dodman’s please? Experienced friends have advised me against going round until I get more experienced. Then I understand the currents into Fowey can be a challenge too?

[@fimmac3148]

Fowey is straightforward. Just don’t moor on the swings with a decent southerly. Gets swell in there. Rock n roll….

[@theboatcheat1204]

Will do - it's on the list!

[@robSaRe]

Wow that is not how you deal with fore and aft mooring. So funny to watch. You carry floating rope so you can approach each buoy individually, so simple.

[@nickmn6108]

Can you explain what you mean?. Usually a trot mooring has a floating link line connecting the fore and aft buoys which makes sense but if the buoys are not connected (as in this case) how would you use the floating lines? Do you mean connect/link the buoys with a floating line first? I am obviously missing something here.

[@johnelliott7443]

As a beginner never seen that done before thank you for video would it be possible , picking up stern line first with floating line reversing, then picking up bow line under tension of stern line.

[@theboatcheat1204]

I think most people prefer not to restrict movement of the stern, which would really limit control.

[@robSaRe]

You do as John suggested but you do not restrict the stern, simply free the boat so you can approach the forward buoy separately. Once the bow is secure you pull in the floating line for the stern. Don’t listen to this guy as well meaning as he is.

[@observer2172]

In the absence of floating line, you may tie the stern and motor towards the bow buoy paying out long stern line without restricting the stern. CAREFUL not to reverse or maneuver over stern line and could prop!

[@jcfgh]

Not much water there at low esp. Springs, so watch your draught. Fowey is much easier, ir anchor outside the harbour. It is in fact even trickier than this chap made it look as there are sometimes more fishing and shallow draught motor boats in there and not much room for errors. One to avoid in anything over 10knts of wind.

[@theboatcheat1204]

@@jcfgh Couldn’t agree more!

[@robSaRe]

Completely disagree other than watching draft during springs. Never had problems there, easiest place in the world. Just make sure you have some rope that floats so you can approach each fore and aft buoy individually but nothing unusual about that.

[@theboatcheat1204]

@@robSaRe I am interested to know what you draw and what size your boat is.

[@robSaRe]

@@theboatcheat1204 Hi, 48’ Ovni, so draught is not so relevant to me. That said I have only touched the bottom once with the keel down.

[@Corkedit]

😅😅 tosh