Great! Like others already said: the explanation (and not only a video of the results) I've been looking for. THX!
@TheAndyJBall5 күн бұрын
just remember and viuslaise the pivot point of the boat and work with that.....................and more importantly, it is not a race
@simonprescott271510 күн бұрын
I keep on watching this from time to time… I have the same set up on our Beneteau 41 and I promise you it’s the thing that I worry about the most. I simply can’t remember how to use that funny little pull out bit of plastic and which setting I need!
@matheustafarello866110 күн бұрын
insanely beautiful. I'm still going to sail around these parts
@andreybogachov67323 күн бұрын
Hi! Perfect explanations! Thank you a lot! It would be great also to have your recommendations on stern-to for a Lagoon while crosswind.
@VSVSVS460Ай бұрын
Leave one spring aft - much eaier
@williamstreet4304Ай бұрын
I wanted to watch this. But YT has these crazy ads that slow playing before it starts. I am not watching because of YT ads.
@theboatcheat1204Ай бұрын
Did you not get a "skip" button at the bottom right of the screen after 5 seconds?
@williamstreet4304Ай бұрын
@@theboatcheat1204 The skip buttons have been taking longer and longer at times. I probably waited 15 to 20 seconds. Also there are often 2 ads with separate wait times. YT is getting worse and worse. I sent the message because you should know how these are affecting people. Remember, we all left network TV to go to cable because of the ads. It will happen again.
@xcaptain0374Ай бұрын
At only water current can we use same method???
@theboatcheat1204Ай бұрын
@@xcaptain0374 Yes you can.
@costazurraАй бұрын
Problem with this manouvr is thta both port engine and starboard engine pushes stern towards dock Same result if not better you can acheive springing in stern spring line
@theboatcheat1204Ай бұрын
@@costazurra That is not what happens… the boat moves as described in the video… and yes you can use a spring, but that is not always an easy solution.
@ggnat2 ай бұрын
Lovely to see our beautiful County (once again) from a different angle, thank you.
@kevinhorne7232 ай бұрын
Is there another video that follows on from this one, with more data or a summary of your experiences?
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@kevinhorne723 There is a follow-on video coming, but it will be a few more weeks before we get to it… but after the big round-britain trip we have nothing but praise for this incredible prop… among my best buys ever.
@CReid19892 ай бұрын
How do we know who is the stand on and who is give way?
@lewis65732 ай бұрын
I can just imagine an MCA examiner if they asked me to explain Rule 6. " be able to stop before hitting anything" 🤔🤔
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@lewis6573 It is exactly what is required…
@lewis65732 ай бұрын
@theboatcheat1204 Absolutely, but it's far from an examination answer. You'd fail masters orals instantly that way. "Every vessel shall at all times proceed at safe speed, so she can take PROPER & EFFECTIVE action to avoid a collision, and be stopped in a distance appropriate to circumstances & conditions. Factors affecting safe speed include, Vis, Traffic density, Manoeuvrability, light pollution & weather...
@Verradonairun2 ай бұрын
There is a way to go in bow-first and WITH the wind, albeit quite laborious for a single-hander: Just before approaching your spot, attach a stern line (in this case port side) to the neighboring finger to slow down your boat and bring it to a stop, then secure a bow line (port side) to a cleat on your finger (not the neighbour's) before gradually releasing stern line and hauling in bow line, in a controlled fashion. This will maintain full control of the boat at all times. Engine should be in neutral, obviously.
@Misteribel2 ай бұрын
Great explanation. However, each approach pushes the boat to the doc, which has risk involved, especially with higher winds. I prefer to tie a spring from windward aft cleat, away from the boat to the dock. Engine forward, steer towards the dock, this moves your whole boat away from the dock, keeping it mostly parallel. Now, gently (!) steer away from the dock. Without any pressure of boat to dock, or any pressure on the crew, your boat will pivot towards the wind. Now, slowly remove the line, keep the tension, and then take her in and sail away.
@neutku2 ай бұрын
❤
@perfectscotty2 ай бұрын
Great video, Thank you.
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@perfectscotty Thank you for saying so!
@TheShawline2 ай бұрын
Great video, thanks.
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@TheShawline Thank you!
@warrenthorp2 ай бұрын
I'm binge watching your video's and I must say I am enjoying them very much.
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp It’s very kind of you to say so - thank you!
@warrenthorp2 ай бұрын
hi Guys, where did you find the info about the Pentland Firth (and its scary tidal streams and eddies) please?
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp In the Clyde Cruising Club Sailing Directions and Anchorages - they will be the subject of a video shortly…
@warrenthorp2 ай бұрын
@@theboatcheat1204 thank you. my wife and I started our own circumnavigation of Britain this May, starting in Lowestoft and heading clockwise. We didn't expect to get all the way round but actually we didn't even get off the south coast in the end, and finished up in Guernsey!
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp Sailing plans are written in the sand at low tide…
@miket16383 ай бұрын
Help. Do you have the rudder vectors backwards? If SB engine is in reverse, wouldn’t it be drawing water over the rudder causing a small force to port? Vice versa with port engine in forward?
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@miket1638 The Lagoon has an unusual configuration, with propellors behind the rudders, which is why it warrants a separate video of its own. I watched through this video to check for any missed how.ers, and the vectors are all correct.
@kcmike73 ай бұрын
At 2:34 in the video you show SB engine in reverse but the prop pushing water forward onto the rudder. How does the engine in reverse located aft of the rudder not draw water aft?
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@kcmike7 An engine in reverse always pushes water forwards, and one in reverse pushes water aft - it is Newton that you have to challenge if you disagree on that one… “action and reaction are equal and opposite”… so reverse engine thrust is created by accelerating water forwards.
@miket16383 ай бұрын
@@theboatcheat1204 I really appreciate these videos and more importantly your diagrams. I really need to see the visuals to learn. After writing out another reply it finally dawned on me and the light went off. I was definitely having a "Gilligan" moment. In a couple weeks I'll be moving a Laggon 42 to a new harbor/dock and this video has really helped me figure out the best technique to dock her in her new spot. Essentially will be doing the opposite of this video. Thanks again for your patient replies! Keep the boat cheats coming!!
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@miket1638 Really great that you find it useful!
@MrRugbylane3 ай бұрын
Short and very sweet
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@MrRugbylane A short leg and not much to tell…
@philmann34763 ай бұрын
Minor variation I once heard and that works for me is to pretend you're an opera singer as you extend both arms during the throw while opening your palms toward the imaginary crowd in front. Thanks for the demonstration, this is a good skill to have.
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@philmann3476 I like that!
@BrizoSailing3 ай бұрын
Thank you for going to the trouble of making these videos. Particularly good to see the Irish coast and some of its harbours featured. I can t understand why so few boats make the trip from the Solent up the Irish sea. So it is lovely to get some positive commentary about the facilities, the welcome and the Guinness. Because of the Common Travel Area we are unaffected by the issues that Brexit has presented for visiting France. All you need are a few euros in your pocket and your ID. Fair Winds.
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@BrizoSailing Thank you for your comments. Our next ‘big’ trip is what was originally the other half of this trip… a circumnavigation of Ireland. We will be routing Scillies to Dunmore East and then making the shortest possible hops along the coast visiting as many Irish destinations as we can in the prevailing conditions. We’ll then be revisiting the Western Isles and making a proper tour of the Irish Sea. I agree that it is surprising how few boats make it to Ireland from the South UK coast. Sadly the vast majority of people with boats on the Solent have too little time available to properly enjoy the freedom their boat should bring. I am a ‘plastic paddy’ but the common travel area is a massive benefit to UK passport holders, so it really should be a more popular destination!
@stein-toveiengh63693 ай бұрын
Gode katamaranvideoer, som forklarer veldig godt!
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
Takk! Jeg er glad du fant det nyttig
@teachingrounds3 ай бұрын
Wow I love this content
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@teachingrounds Thank you!
@warrenthorp3 ай бұрын
Can you put your bank details up please. I’ve got £1500 for you 😅 😂 And if it works for you, then I’m going to do it too! I really do NEED a Kraken 44! 🤣
@theboatcheat12042 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp Me too!
@warrenthorp3 ай бұрын
My wife reckons she’s the captain too! What’s the app you’re using showing the tidal streams?
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp Boatie - a really useful app. We did a review on it which is linked in a reply on this thread.
@warrenthorp3 ай бұрын
Great video. I haven’t even got a 349 but couldn’t help watching it! (Must be the engineer in me)
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
@@warrenthorp Thank you!
@warrenthorp3 ай бұрын
Cost aside and even cause aside, I’m just glad that you found it.
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
Thankfully Jeanneau supplied everything FOC so it only cost me for the engineer... minor cost in the end...
@MMAS20233 ай бұрын
we have just spent a month sailling with an autoprop after running a folder for years and a fixed 3-blade before that. Totally transformed motoring and especially motor-sailing performance. Very nice to see a product that fully lives up to what the manufacturer says, if not exceeds it. Kicking my self that I did not change earlier.
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
I had to do a fair bit of motor-sailing on a recent trip because chop was slowing us down and we had tidal gates to make... the prop made a huge difference... Love it.
@SAILINGintoFREEDOM4 ай бұрын
Good on you my friend. This is a great effort. Thank you
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@SAILINGintoFREEDOM Thank you! Kind of you to say so.
@gatecrasher19704 ай бұрын
why nobody thinks to post a video on very hard tight dockings? many boats have to dock front or rear ended with boats either side with tides rushing out and in and strong wind
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@gatecrasher1970 We have several videos covering tricky moorings on this channel. However, there are doubtless loads of situations that we haven’t covered. With the various configurations of hulls, props, rudders etc there are literally hundreds of possibilities… and they invariably spark debate because there are as many ‘right’ ways to do it as there are correspondents. Please suggest any you don’t find that you’d like to see.
@dwts4 ай бұрын
As an engineer. Great explanation!
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@dwts Thank you - that made my day!
@markmacken14 ай бұрын
Round Ireland :) great video
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@markmacken1 Thank you!
@jcfgh4 ай бұрын
I am finding the buoyage rather confusing. The starboard and port marks in the channel going over the bridge seem to be reversed? I dont get it, although i havent got the chart so i could be misunderstanding your approach? Anyway thank you. James
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
Hi James.You raise a good point - we could have made it clearer by pointing out that the direction of buoyage is the other way. The reason for this is that Kilmore Quay is close to the entrance to the Irish Sea from the Atlantic, so all the marks between Arklow and Kilmore have a buoyage direction from the South-West. The channel through St Patrick's bridge is along the coast rather than into Kilmore, so it follows the direction of the chart - hence a SHM on our port side..
@jcfgh4 ай бұрын
Thank you, I get it! Best wishes
@pinknblues14 ай бұрын
neat!
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@ushi1204 ай бұрын
There are various explanations for "prop-walk", but I don't think that the difference in water pressure at a different depth of 30 cm is large enough to explain this phenomenon. I think the following physical explanation describes the phenomenon more accurate. The prop pushes the water in a circular motion (clockwise or anticlockwise) and also pushes a water-stream forwards or backwards (depending on the direction of the propeller). The water-stream is equal to prop-wash and the prop-walk only corresponds to the circular movement. The circular water movement and the generated water pressure is more or less the same in all directions and decreases steadily depending on the distance from the propeller. The difference in water pressure at a depth of 30 cm is ridiculously small. But what makes a big difference - and this is a more accurate physical explanation for prop-walk - is that the circular water movement encounters resistance below the hull, which builds up a higher water pressure that pushes the hull either to port or starboard. This also means that every prop generates a prop-walk in both directions (starboard AND port) depending on whether the propeller is rotating forwards or backwards. The difference is, while moving forward we do not notice the prop-WALK because the prop-WASH on the rudder is many times greater. Maybe we both are right or wrong with our explanations and maybe in anear future somebody will make a study about this topic. Cheers a.h.
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@ushi120 Thanks for your comments. There are various models for describing effects in fluid dynamics, and they each have their own problems. The problem with the model you prefer is that it doesn’t account for prop-walk on twin rudder boats.
@ushi1204 ай бұрын
nice video, very informative. Thanks for that. It seams that this instructor like to teach the hard way. 😂 There are a lot of advantages to do it the opposite way, especially with modern monohulls. 1. Much easier and better control while steering stern-to against the Wind to the first buoy. 2. Easier to pick up the windward buoy from the stern. 3. With two stern-lines from both cleats attached to the first buoy (windward) you have a perfect controllability of the vessel to pick up the second buoy (leeward) from the bow. 4. Drop the buoy and leaving the harbour much easier. Disadvantage: The wind is blowing into the cockpit, this can be annoying.
@theboatcheat12043 ай бұрын
The problem here is that the wind changes direction almost instantly if the mean wind is from the wrong direction, as it switches from going one side of the high ground to the other... but your points are all correct of course.
@warrenjs4 ай бұрын
Have had a few nightmares in my Halmatic 30 going aft out of the berth.....lol. Best part is learning everytime, thanks for the tips will try this wee cheat.
@simonstell80184 ай бұрын
Very helpful video. Thank you for this. I am just about to put into practice what you have advised for a single engined outboard on a small (24 foot) catamaran. We are really tight into the pontoon in Torquay Council pontoon so very little space fore and aft to manoeuvre or swing. Also we have an overhanging dinghy on davits so I think I will stick to using your first bow method to get out. Any extra tips for a catamaran as you said that you had also had experience with cats?
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@simonstell8018 Thank you! For a small cat there is one additional tip which you might find helpful… I will do a video in the next few days specifically about your issue. Am I right in assuming it has a single outboard like many smaller cats, or do you have the luxury of two engines?
@simonstell80184 ай бұрын
Thanks for your reply. Just a single outboard in a well. We have a Solaris Sunbeam 24 cat.
@MakingWaves-IsleOfMan4 ай бұрын
Another great video with more good tips about using Port Erin as an alternate destination considering the wind, and the advice for anchoring safely. Im glad you got to see a small sample of the island and if next year permits, I'll be more than happy to give you both a few days to show off a few more of the sights. Have a safe onward journey (I'm late, so your next video is already waiting for me 😊) Cair Vie
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@MakingWaves-IsleOfMan Thank you!
@gtrim9954 ай бұрын
I'd ask to be moved two down on the downwind side.
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@gtrim995 If only life was that simple, but you are of course right that asking for a move is worth a go.
@bjrnaadny77864 ай бұрын
Brilliant idea. Need to test this tonight!
@theboatcheat12044 ай бұрын
@@bjrnaadny7786 Thank you! I look forward to hearing how well it works on your boat…
@jasonchamberlin15325 ай бұрын
Useful video. i think my preference would have been to rig the bow line as a bridle and then pay it out whilst the helm went astern until about 4-5 feet off the other buoy, then made it fast - head to the stern and then use the engine power to get close enough to rig the stern line and centre the boat.
@theboatcheat12045 ай бұрын
@@jasonchamberlin1532 I do a similar thing in leaving the bow line slack enough to get the transom next to the other buoy, then adjust using engine power…
@Corkedit5 ай бұрын
😅😅 tosh
@WavedancerWesterlyfulmar5 ай бұрын
I use bowline but snub on middle cleat on pontoon to stop forward movement then bring it to bow cleat tie off quick husband throws stern line, I tie off quick . He steps off and does final tie off and spring lines
@Jarek120105 ай бұрын
cherry picking easy scenarios - not good. Mid cleat line first is great, unfortunately, it has to be executed very fast and you have to have a cleat exactly where you can fit your boat. How about a scenario that did not seem to occur to you. A bow line and engine forward with rudder hard to port? This will hold the stern to the dock, to give you time for the rest of the lines.
@theboatcheat12045 ай бұрын
@@Jarek12010 Problem is that it won’t work with twin rudder boats.
@DagGoering4 ай бұрын
@@theboatcheat1204 For the vast majority of boats using prop wash as described by Jarek12010 makes the most sense.
@andrewmcgregor86455 ай бұрын
Could you do a video navigating round Dodman’s please? Experienced friends have advised me against going round until I get more experienced. Then I understand the currents into Fowey can be a challenge too?
@fimmac31484 ай бұрын
Fowey is straightforward. Just don’t moor on the swings with a decent southerly. Gets swell in there. Rock n roll….