Tricky Purchase - Suunto Race S Review

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Matt LeGrand

Matt LeGrand

Күн бұрын

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@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
It's been a bit tricky to find this watch lately. Here's one place to buy the Suunto Race S: amzn.to/4etzFob
@KwyjiboVanDeKamp
@KwyjiboVanDeKamp 2 ай бұрын
Oh man! All the little details in the editing of this video are amazing! The transition into the battery for showing the battery drain of each GPS setting. Or the increase in volume while showing how you can turn up the volume on the watch! An absolute piece of art! As always!
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words. I’m pumped that you noticed all of those tiny little details 😂
@seansutton4836
@seansutton4836 2 ай бұрын
I own the Race S and am using it as my daily driver at the moment. I also have used the Vertical and the Race. Historically I have used the Fenix 47 and 51mm watches and I find the Race S all black edition very refreshing. The screen size as you said is 1.32 vs 1.4mm on both the new Fenix 8 47 and 51mm versions as well as the 1.43 for the Race and the Vertical. While the watch seems smaller, the screens are very similar in daily wear. My Race was a titanium edition and it was beautiful. but this all black Race S really is a looker. I do not get the feeling it is "cheaper" when I am wearing it. The Vertical is really nice, but it is older and has some key differences. MIP, no crown, solar and a massive battery, and a slightly older sleep tracking system. (For me the Vertical had more accurate sleep tracking, but I think that is different from person to person) Overall as I said above I have found the Race S a very refreshing change. Especially with Zonesense. As a trail runner that does a ton of endurance, zone 2/MAF runs this has been very interesting to use. It is a potential game changer. To sum it up I find the Race S to be a refreshing change. It is a little hot rod of a watch. It is getting me away from having a rock on my wrist like I have had with a lot of other adventure watches. The reality is few of us are doing Ultras every day or multi-day backpacking trips where you need a massive battery. Long battery life and "the best of the best" was definitely my mindset for a long time. I thought in terms of battery life A LOT and I always wanted the newest and best. The Race S is an amazing compromise of form and function. Lastly it is totally personal, but I have not been super excited about using Garmin Connect for some time. Garmin's are amazing, but that app has not been a great experience in some time. I also find the Suunto App refreshing and gets me all the info I need to improve my running and fitness. I love love love. the TrainingPeaks metrics like TSB, ATL and CTL that they use on the Suunto app.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Great mini review comment here!!! I'm glad you don't get the vibe that the build quality is less than a Race or Vertical. That's been my impression and I've been getting a lot of flack for it in the comments. I think the extra weight and etched bezel really gave the Race a feeling of high quality. Even if the lighter weight and slimmer size of the Race S might be more functional. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Sean! I really appreciate it. 👍
@philnichols4680
@philnichols4680 2 ай бұрын
I have both the Race and the Race S. For my mainly steady state cardio, the heart rate performs the same. Since the original Race has now been updated to include the customized watch faces, I actually prefer the larger size and display of the Race. To me, they’re both great. And I appreciate Suunto pushing their updates to previous devices. Now we can choose based on size, fit, and finish, and know we’re getting the same features.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
In your opinion, does the Suunto Race feel like a nicer, higher end watch? To me the Race S feels significantly cheaper. Not that it’s bad, it’s just not as nicely designed as the Race series in my opinion.
@philnichols4680
@philnichols4680 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrandexactly!
@ActiveIdeas
@ActiveIdeas 2 ай бұрын
Smashed it Matt, as always, I'm super inspired! Loved the Heart Rate Graphics 🔥
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, but I'm not sure they're worth the time put into it. 🤦‍♂️ Thank you for the kind words!
@bonn1771
@bonn1771 2 ай бұрын
Solid video Matt. This be a good middle range watch for someone starting in my mind Amazing editing as well. Happy training
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Thank you! Hopefully you're getting a break after a successful triathlon season. Catch up with you soon!
@RobynRunsFree
@RobynRunsFree 2 ай бұрын
Tried a race S. Had wildly off step counts compared to my oura and a garmin. Wore both a Garmin Epix and a 965 while testing the Suunto for comparison and the Suunto was thousands of steps off over a course of a day. So I swapped wrists to see if my movements might be biasing it. It didn’t change results no matter what device it was compared against. So I had to return it. It just wasn’t consistent with other devices. Loved the design and I genuinely liked the interface. It just wasn’t trustworthy for the data.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Dang, I should have tested step count. Thanks for posting this Robyn! I'm typically wearing two watches so I'll have a look to see if my numbers are similar to what you're seeing. 👌
@Crying-x9z
@Crying-x9z 2 ай бұрын
Counting steps is a deal breaker? Man ,its enough internet for me today 😂
@RobynRunsFree
@RobynRunsFree 2 ай бұрын
@@Crying-x9z It is. If the data it captures isn't correct, how do you trust any of the other analytics that a training watch attempts to quantify for you? If it can't tell how many steps my legs moved, it will be great on treadmill runs, calorie calculations, etc. So yeah, a deal-breaker. But to each their own.
@Crying-x9z
@Crying-x9z 2 ай бұрын
@@RobynRunsFree one thing is the steps and calories burned. All brands overestimate that. Suunto, Garmin, Coros,Polar etc. They have their algorithms and they rarely agree on their predictions. If I would trust in that data probably at this moment I would have more than 100 kgs. In my active days, running,gym, work my Garmin in the end of the day give about 3800 calories burned. If i believe in that and my goal was maintaining my weight I would be in troubles 😂 I know everyone have their purpose on having a fitness tracker,but personally I think steps, calories burned and sleep stages are that kind of things we don't need to give to much value
@RobynRunsFree
@RobynRunsFree 2 ай бұрын
@@Crying-x9z no argument. But if you are thousands of steps different from 2 different Garmin devices and my Oura which are mostly close (maybe 100-200) off versus the 3000-5000 difference with the Suunto (across a busy day and the Suunto was drastically low) then it isn’t a device for me. If you like it and don’t care about those metrics, great! But for me, I care. I posted this not to denigrate anyone who likes it (I liked it) but did want to share my observation over a few consistent days.
@AaronToponce
@AaronToponce 4 күн бұрын
Came here because I'm debating upgrading my watch. I had the Suunto Ambit3 Peak and currently am using the Suunto 9 Baro. My 9 Baro has a very laggy UI across all aspects of the watch and it crashes on structured workouts. Further, I think Suunto's ZoneSense is a game changer and would love to give it a spin, but the 9 Baro does not support it. The Race S is currently looking very good to me, so I'm trying to decide if this is what I'm looking for. Thanks for the review.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 3 күн бұрын
I hear you. That laggy UI can be pretty frustrating. I think you'll like the Race S. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@Chris_hong_sung
@Chris_hong_sung 2 ай бұрын
Great review and beautifully made! Would be interesting, how you find Suunto’s new Zonesense technology. Seems pretty impressive!
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, that looks super interesting. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Chris! I really appreciate it. 👍
@Bushcraftranger
@Bushcraftranger 3 күн бұрын
Wow, what a great Video! Thank you very much for your effort! I never owned a sportwatch but i think about buying one. So Videos like that are super helpful. At the moment i think about the Race S, the Coros Pace 3 and Pace Pro. Main use will be for road cycling, second for running and Workouts. Can i ask your opinion and / or suggestions for sportwatches for cycling?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 күн бұрын
I tend to use a cycling computer but the between those 3 options, maybe the Pace Pro from COROS. COROS is promising to improve mapping in here which might be helpful on a watch for cycling. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@dadandvideogames
@dadandvideogames 2 ай бұрын
You always know Matt's going to break out that smooth jazz.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
🎷 😂
@nilstoll6937
@nilstoll6937 Ай бұрын
For me it was a no-brainer going with the Sunnto Race S over Garmin given the pricepoint and inclusion of mapping. Its a life saver when running in unknown places. Suunto also introduced their new ZoneSense feature when paired with their HearRate straps, its a game changer for zone based workouts.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Nice. I haven’t tested the new zone sense stuff. Looks interesting. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@RealChemist88
@RealChemist88 2 ай бұрын
Much prefer the Suunto UI to Garmin. I got the Race S the same time my wife got the 265s and we had to google how to skip the daily suggested workout and how to manually set heart rate zones on hers.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, Garmin's menu system is . . . thick. 😬 I had one of the runners that I coach ask me how to do something on her watch yesterday and it took me a few minutes even though I knew where and what to do. 🤦‍♂️ Simple is good. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@MrBecksy2
@MrBecksy2 Ай бұрын
I’m tempted with a Suunto as my next watch since Garmin got really expensive. But would prefer the Race with a better heart rate monitor. A big negative for me is no music storage and cannot connect headphones.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Yeah, I agree. The Race with an improved heart rate sensor would be ideal. 👌 Hopefully Suunto hears our pleas. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@YoeriNijs
@YoeriNijs 2 ай бұрын
Cool video, Matt! Really enjoyed it!
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Yoeri! I really appreciate it. 👍
@parkerkerth8446
@parkerkerth8446 2 ай бұрын
Incredible details! love the video Matt
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Thank you Parker!!! Hope training is going well.
@albertomardegan9585
@albertomardegan9585 2 ай бұрын
Which one would you recommend between the Race S, the Forerunner 265s or the Venu 3s? I’m looking forward to starting running more to do a more hybrid training, but my ruinning is pretty weak and it would be great to have someone helping me improving, like tracking my anaerobic level, proposing me some programs,… Does Suunto has the same offerings as Garmin, in this sense? Btw, very captivating review! :)
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Thanks! Suunto doesn’t have the exact same offerings as Garmin. That 265 would be a fantastic option for sure. Maybe there will be some holiday deals coming up soon? 🤷🏻‍♂️
@adrienb6593
@adrienb6593 2 ай бұрын
Hi there, I am basically hesitating between the Suunto Race S, Garmin 265 and Coros Pace 3. I run and do some HIIT training. The map on the Suunto seems like a big plus for me and the Suunto just looks better on the wrist. Would love to get your two cents on which you would recommend based on my usage. Keeping in mind, I like things to be simple and straight forward in terms of data/ usage. Thanks Matt!
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
If you're really need maps and you like the look of the Suunto than that's a good way to go. I recommended the 265 to my older brother because he swims, bikes and runs a good bit. Mapping wasn't very important to him. It really all depends on which one you like the look of and what you'll be using it for. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@adrienb6593
@adrienb6593 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand Thanks or the reply and the great content, keep it coming !
@cm99cox
@cm99cox 2 ай бұрын
Tried the Suunto Race. Liked the device well enough but no music storage and notifications weren’t the best. The biggest thing that led to me sending it back was the app. I know some people like it but to me it was horrible
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, I’ve liked the app for the most part. Anything in particular that turned you off? Or were you just used to much much more with something like a Garmin Connect?
@cm99cox
@cm99cox 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand I was more used to apple and garmin connect. To me the TSS and other stuff were more confusing to figure out. Also I usually take advantage of Garmin training plans as I’m a novice and Suunto does not offer anything like that
@miket00123
@miket00123 Ай бұрын
Hi Matt. When swimming a swimming set. Does the Race notify you when your on your last lap? I currently use the FR 265 and it gives me a notification when I’m on my last lap.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Not that I know of Mike. Are you thinking about switching away from the 265?
@miket00123
@miket00123 Ай бұрын
@@mlegrand I am. Just a couple things that I kinda struggle with on the 265. Creating workouts is one.
@1519Spring
@1519Spring 26 күн бұрын
There's a new Courtney Dauwalter edition of the Race S out now. Titanium and band with Courtney's "believe" motto in her handwriting. $450 list.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 25 күн бұрын
Nice! I haven't had the chance to review or see the titanium edition. That might be worth the extra money. 🤔 Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@lbenegas
@lbenegas 2 ай бұрын
I am a 45 yo guy with some overweight. I am planning to start GYM and Running for the first time after 30 years of doing zero exercise. I was thinking to get a watch that could guide me in my exercises, but also keep track of my health (I have weak heart). Some people tell me to go "Garmin", but my wallet finds those crazy expensive. Would you recommend this watch for a starter like me? (Or maybe any other watch). THANKS!
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I have a few suggestions. 1. Start back into running slowly. Way slower than you think. Walk some run some. 2. This Suunto would be a great option. 3. I'd also look at the Garmin Forerunner 165, 255 (sale) and 265. 4. There are typically a lot of good Black Friday deals if you're willing to wait. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@TheSandornagy
@TheSandornagy 21 күн бұрын
I bought a Race S for my wife. The bottom says 'Designed in Finnland' and 'Made in China'. Hmm? Is there any chance to get live tracking for this Suunto? My friend's Garmin Fenix 6 can send a 'safe follow' link via e-mail when he starts his outdoor run, and her wife can get an accurate follow of his Garmin in the wood. I do not find any similar option in the Race S yet.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 21 күн бұрын
I don't remember seeing that feature on any of the Suunto watches. I know it's been a very popular feature request from Suunto. Here's the spot on the Suunto Forums where it's being suggested and talked about: forum.suunto.com/topic/158/live-track/107
@antje8303
@antje8303 2 ай бұрын
Does Suunto have Coaches Like Garmin to Prepare your for a race ? And suggest workouts ? Im a beginner and that's super important to me...
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Good question. Not that I am aware of. Garmin does a great job with this. COROS also offers a free marathon training program automatically adjust for your specific ability level.
@davosteel
@davosteel 2 ай бұрын
Great video Matt. I recently upgraded/updated my old FR935 to the 965. For the best part I love it but the OHR is way off against my old device and chest HRM (not just by the odd BPM but way off). I contacted Garmin CS who advise me that this is a software issue they are working to fix ? Are you aware of this ? I sure wish I’d have known about it before dropping 600GBP !
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I was not aware of this. It's interesting because the HR sensor was working fine. They must have mixed something up with a newer software update. I'll give that a test using the same kind of set up. Two optical HR watches and a third attached to a chest strap. Thank you for posting this Dave!
@davosteel
@davosteel 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand thanks Matt. Happy to forward the email if need be.
@tanyapitre731
@tanyapitre731 2 ай бұрын
What's your opinion on the Race S vs the Coros Apex 2?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I like the Race S. The Apex 2 wasn't my favorite watch. It's solid. I wore that and the Apex Pro for a while and I have a review on this channel somewhere. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@EricA0321
@EricA0321 2 ай бұрын
How you tested sleep tracking? Compared it to the Apple Watch or oura ring that is top of the line in terms of sleep?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I mostly compared this watch to a Garmin watch. But I will often wear an Apple Watch or smart ring as well. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@ChristianSlagter
@ChristianSlagter 2 ай бұрын
Wow, such a gem for my ears and eyes. Thank you for reviewing the Race S, I've been looking forward to it. I thought the case would be steel. What do you think about the build quality and durability of the watch?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
The build quality seems fine but the materials definitely feel cheaper than the bigger Suunto Race. I still think this is a great option for people to consider. 🤷‍♂️
@thomasmann6416
@thomasmann6416 2 ай бұрын
Only the bezel is stainless steel...
@ChristianSlagter
@ChristianSlagter 2 ай бұрын
@@thomasmann6416 thank you 👍🏻. Or titanium in the upcoming variant.
@sebastiento9695
@sebastiento9695 2 ай бұрын
​@@thomasmann6416and back plate, same with titanium, only bezel and back plate. (The Race and vertical however also have the lugs in metal)
@CraigEggleton
@CraigEggleton 2 ай бұрын
For those interested the Race S Titanium is now available on Suunto at $449.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Nice! Thanks for posting this!
@MarkoVukic-ef5yy
@MarkoVukic-ef5yy Ай бұрын
I prefer SS version. my wife lost Suunto 9 peak pro titanium on parking place in front of Supermarket but she found it when she came home.
@nakartkibiel
@nakartkibiel 26 күн бұрын
Hi!😉 Is that watch could be connect to the karoo 3 as a heart sensor?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 25 күн бұрын
Actually, unless this has changed, I don't think Suunto has a broadcast HR option. Seems like a obvious miss considering most brands have this at this point. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@nakartkibiel
@nakartkibiel 25 күн бұрын
@mlegrand thanks ! 👍 I was asking cos I saw U used it both in cycling 😎 when I'm reading more and more about watch and cycling computer I see it's not so obvious, to make a good choice.. Did U try to connect any sport watch to a cycling computer for sharing heartbeat?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 25 күн бұрын
@@nakartkibiel - Yeah, I’ve typically not had any issues. The data accuracy isn’t as good as a $20 chest strap but it’s nice and easy with most watches.
@CraigEggleton
@CraigEggleton 2 ай бұрын
Suunto seems to be following the pattern of camera manufacturers. Give better features to newly released cheaper models while leaving the more expensive model owners left behind. With the watch sensor of the S of course they can’t magically put that in an older Race or Vertical but it seems they would be better served to release multiple options with new hardware at the same time to maximize sales. Unless they plan on better hardware for next vertical and race. If Race had better OHR it would be on my wrist. If vertical came with Amoled and better OHR that would definitely be on my wrist. Seems like they are missing obvious ways to capture market share. Especially given the Garmin price points.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Well, I could be wrong but I think the Vertical with an AMOLED screen is available. It's just called the Suunto Race. But the newer OHR is missing on those devices. That'd be nice to get over to that line ASAP.
@CraigEggleton
@CraigEggleton 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand watch crown and lugs on the race are differences to the vertical. Strangely the vertical lugs are sharper and dig into the wrist for some. I’d personally like a Amoled vertical without the crown.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
@@CraigEggleton - Oh that's good to know. Thanks! I actually haven't ever reviewed the Vertical on this channel. Maybe I'll get to review the Vertical 2 some day 🤷‍♂
@henrikpalin6845
@henrikpalin6845 2 ай бұрын
@@CraigEggleton That would be the Suunto Ocean.
@iggalan
@iggalan 2 ай бұрын
It’s an amazing watch for running or cycling, not so much for swimming in the pool and much less in the open water unfortunately. If Suunto gives some love to these profiles I may get another Race S but as it is now I had to return it. In open water the track it’s all over the place, unusable. GPS signals are blocked in the water so software has to be designed for this; Garmin and Coros have this figured out, Suunto not. Even in the pool it miss calculates the length, detects random turns…
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, fixing gps tracking for open water swimming is not a small task. Hopefully Suunto has it on their development radar. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@youling1997
@youling1997 2 ай бұрын
It’s not amazing watch for cycling. You can only have one sensor of the same kind remembered on the watch so basically if you have multiple bikes and have multiple cadence sensor, it doesn’t work with this watch.
@matthewstopint8852
@matthewstopint8852 Ай бұрын
no floors widget ? did not see anything listed in the user manual...
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Not that I know of. Maybe that’s something they’ll add at some point?
@Cometbolide
@Cometbolide 2 ай бұрын
So, im a XC runner for my high school, im looking for like accurate HR monitors and pace/distance tracking as well as it feeling comfortable and light. Would you recommend the Race S or the Race in that respect?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
The Race S tested more accurately for me than the Race. BTW, I coach at the high school XC level in Camas WA. A lot of my kids wear Coros, Garmin and Apple Watches.
@Cometbolide
@Cometbolide 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand How have they worked for them? I'm currently on a Garmin 55 that I've used for a year and a half and considering upgrading, which would you recommend?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
@@Cometbolide​​⁠ - they seem to do ok with each brand. The Garmin FR 165 or 266 would be a nice upgrade 👌
@martinlevy5833
@martinlevy5833 2 ай бұрын
Afaik there is no track running mode and it is blocker for me. Otherwise great value for money‼️
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Good point Martin! Thank for posting this. I am also a big fan of a dedicated track mode. Suunto should consider developing one.
@reineroberhaus
@reineroberhaus 2 ай бұрын
what about the latest update for the suunto race. I read that theys fixed the HR Issues.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I had to send that watch back to Suunto after my testing. That would be super interesting to re-test. 🤞
@khairulannuarab
@khairulannuarab 3 күн бұрын
Does it detect naps?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 3 күн бұрын
Not that I know of but I didn’t test that to find out. Nap does sound good though
@DylanHobbs1
@DylanHobbs1 2 ай бұрын
Man this video is very well made! I’m not sure if you currently use one but putting the audio through a de-esser might be an idea! Could just have been a lot of sibilance in this though! Awesome stuff, thank you ❤
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Ssssuunto Race Ssssss. Makes sense. I'll try that. Thanks for the suggestion Dylan! Do you work in audio/visual field?
@bbibbi935
@bbibbi935 2 ай бұрын
Cool video!!, Could you help me choose my first running watch between fr965 and suunto race,I'm training for my first marathon.thank you sir.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
The 965 would be a nicer more full feature device. But it costs a good bit more. The Suunto Race is a solid device at a better price. Either would work fine for a marathon. Which one are you leaning towards?
@bbibbi935
@bbibbi935 2 ай бұрын
@mlegrand I looking into 965 more,Personally I feel like the data running in garmin is better however I really like the material in suunto race.That's why I can't really chose on these watches🥹🥹.
@CornyS
@CornyS 2 ай бұрын
And does the Sunnto Race S have a quick-charge function like the 9 Peak Pro?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I haven’t seen any specific details about that. 🤷🏻‍♂️
@sebastiento9695
@sebastiento9695 2 ай бұрын
It charges pretty fast, from 0 to 100 under an hour for sure!
@ferhancevik9972
@ferhancevik9972 2 ай бұрын
Hey Matt, I'm torn between the Coros Pace 3 and the Suunto Race S. I'm on a tight budget, so I'd love your advice. Which one would you recommend?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I think Suunto Race S is an overall nicer device. But the Coros Pace 3 is a rock solid option at a better price. What are you leaning towards?
@ferhancevik9972
@ferhancevik9972 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the advice Matt. I think I'll go for the Suunto Race S. It seems to have everything I need.
@Gohealt
@Gohealt 2 ай бұрын
Coros App is quite good as well. I don’t know how good Suunto app is?
@venkatshashank
@venkatshashank 2 ай бұрын
Great review…I am using Race and yes HRM is bad.. but my question if you had to buy one watch with own money and use it daily - what watch will you buy ? …
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I’m cheap. I’d probably go with the Race S. I also don’t ever have to look nice. To me, the Race series looked significantly nicer and better designed. What do you think?
@pj8761
@pj8761 2 ай бұрын
Hi Matt, do you know if Suunto will be coming out with a titanium Race S ?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I have no idea. They don’t talk directly to me unfortunately. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@bossh0g
@bossh0g 2 ай бұрын
Titanium model is out now :)
@noisetin
@noisetin 2 ай бұрын
Beautifully done video 👌
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!!!
@DomBurgess
@DomBurgess 20 күн бұрын
The lack of music is such a dealbreaker for me. Means I have to take my phone with me, and if I have my phone with me then I don't need maps on my watch.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 20 күн бұрын
Yeah, it's a tricky situation for Suunto. They're not nearly a big enough company to talk to the Streaming companies like Spotify (leaving it to pretty much Garmin and Apple) but they could do .mp3 files.
@MarcoCipriani-j8i
@MarcoCipriani-j8i 2 ай бұрын
HI can you tell me if it calculates the slope of the climbs if I do uphill? repeats?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I think there is a % grade of the climb that you are on. I don't remember testing this but I think it's using an average over 30 seconds so it might not be extremely responsive. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Marco! I really appreciate it. 👍
@kofev
@kofev 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for the review! I have one additional question. Does the watch measure heart rate well in water?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I haven't found any watches that truly do a good job of measuring heart rate in the water. And I test pretty much everything on the market. It's pretty tricky to get right. If you do interval sets, I've found HR to be accurate when breaking between sets. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@BoysTrack
@BoysTrack 2 ай бұрын
This review is too late, but still must watch this review
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Too late? Yeah, it takes me a really long time to make and edit reviews like this. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@leebhagat868
@leebhagat868 2 ай бұрын
I have both the race and race s and wear the race s more as it’s just easier to wear due to its size for every day and sleep in. The heart rate is way better on the race s so I trust the metrics more for health tracking
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Nice! I think that's really what people will want to hear. How does this compare to the more expensive Suunto options. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@lobboleibheimer
@lobboleibheimer 2 ай бұрын
i switched from garmin epix gen 2 to suunto race. The menu is quiet more comfortable like garmin. Even the design is better.....my opinion ;) greetings from germany
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Lobbo! I really appreciate it. 👍
@lobboleibheimer
@lobboleibheimer 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand no worries!
@RumbleBack-iz3tl
@RumbleBack-iz3tl 2 ай бұрын
I did the same. Garmin is sooo lame. The innovation like Suunto zone sense comes nowadays from Suunto
@peakzzyt6135
@peakzzyt6135 2 ай бұрын
Would you reccomend the race or the coros apex two pro kinda leanning towards the apex 2 pro but love the design and ui on the sunto and the sleekness of the watch the only thing holding me back is battery life onthe race id say compared to apex two pro Which do you think would be better i mostly do running with a bit cycling also do half marathons 5ks ,adventure races trail races and hope to do marathons and ultras in the future Which do you think would be better suited thank you Great video also .😎
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Wow, tough call. I’d look at price and if you’re leaning towards the Coros than that would be a great option. It’ll get better battery life but the screen on the Suunto Race S is going to be sharper. When are you hoping to decide by?
@peakzzyt6135
@peakzzyt6135 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand hoping to decide by Christmas lol is the Suunto race compatible with the coros hr strap Thanks ,😎
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
@@peakzzyt6135 - I wonder if there will be any good holiday sales as we get closer to Christmas. The Suunto would be compatible with any heart rate sensor. 👍 There's always a chance these companies might announce something new before then. 🤔
@peakzzyt6135
@peakzzyt6135 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand ye maybe it'll be interesting to see lol I feel like I'm tied between Suunto and Garmin the Fenix 8 is awesome but way too pricey at that price point to justify it the Fenix e has most of the features of the Fenix 8 except for mic and speaker,dive computer and a few other smaller features ,so I just can't justify it so the race might be a good option just wish it had a flashlight lol Soo handy ,thanks for your advice 😎🤩
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
@@peakzzyt6135 - Did you look at the Epix gen 2 being on mega sale?
@Jauhopaa69
@Jauhopaa69 Ай бұрын
nobrainer for me to buy this watch, coming from an apple watch the battery life cant be something I should worry about:D Nice video.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@user-wb5kk4ek1n
@user-wb5kk4ek1n 2 ай бұрын
9:32 Made of plastic? And on 10:02 , you see on back written stainless steel. Its not made of plastic and does not feel cheap...
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Feels cheaper than the Suunto Race to me.
@sweeyong7756
@sweeyong7756 2 ай бұрын
This or huawei gt5 pro?
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
I've never tested a Huawei watch. So . . . Suunto I guess 🤷‍♂️
@youling1997
@youling1997 2 ай бұрын
The data page customization is a pain in the ass. You cannot edit the default profile they provide. If you customize your own, you cannot have some of the specific data page or data field that’s included in their provided profile. This is insane to me that as a watch this marketed for UTMB, does not have 3-D distance or 3-D speed. And the only way to get grade adjusted pace is to have a completely new data page from a third-party. Blood oxygen accuracy is nowhere close to Garmin. Not only failed to measure blood oxygen many many times, but also it will register false measurements. And there are many other small things that I am so used to on Garmin and COROS platform, but Santo just seems to go out of their way to prevent you from having a nice user experience. I returned it and got a the Garmin 265.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
That 265 is an impressive watch. That’s what I recommend for my brother who mostly runs but also does the occasional triathlon. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@winterkhan
@winterkhan Ай бұрын
great review, respect 🙏
@mlegrand
@mlegrand Ай бұрын
Wow, thank you!!! 🙏
@lhzsdgsfbvv
@lhzsdgsfbvv 2 ай бұрын
Quite an complete watch for the price.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
It really is an impressive offer from Suunto. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@KC-UT4rmAZ
@KC-UT4rmAZ 6 күн бұрын
Not having sapphire screen is a big take away for me for Suunto to be calling it “the same watch only smaller.” The titanium edition should have 100% had a sapphire screen. Not putting a sapphire screen in the titanium edition feels like to me it was merely a $$$ grab.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 6 күн бұрын
I'd prefer getting the sapphire and over the titanium if given a choice. It's such a resistant material to scratches. Oh well . . . 🤷‍♂️
@MussabGasmelseed
@MussabGasmelseed 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for great video
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@farulkalra
@farulkalra 2 ай бұрын
Heyy matt, amazing video. Just a small correction, it does have stainless stell bezel around.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Oh no! I hate it when I make mistakes like that. Thanks for the help and correction!
@farulkalra
@farulkalra 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand hey matt, its absolutely alright. It happens, i still love your videos anyhow. You are the best.
@seanporter166
@seanporter166 2 ай бұрын
Thanl you for the amaing video.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Wow, thank you Sean!
@gon-tanaka
@gon-tanaka 2 ай бұрын
I own the Traverse Alpha Foliage
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Nice! How do you like it? Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@gon-tanaka
@gon-tanaka 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand yes it’s really a tank. Nothing can Break it !
@christreadwell5899
@christreadwell5899 2 ай бұрын
Suunto Race s heart monitor is awful! I’m sending it back.
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Glad you're able to return it. What else are you thinking about switching towards?
@TTAviation
@TTAviation 2 ай бұрын
Where is the trex 3 review 😁
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
Maybe 2-3 weeks away. I’m testing it now.
@ryanvanderwesthuizen6573
@ryanvanderwesthuizen6573 18 күн бұрын
if it had Spotify i would get it
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 18 күн бұрын
Good call. It's really hard for smaller brands like Suunto to make deals with larger companies like Spotify. So sadly, this is a feature that will probably never happen. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment. I really appreciate it. 👍
@maxihristov4488
@maxihristov4488 2 ай бұрын
Coros Pace 3 is better value for money
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
That Pace 3 is an amazing value. Thank you for watching and taking the extra time to comment Max! I really appreciate it. 👍
@tadejdanev5030
@tadejdanev5030 2 ай бұрын
T-REX 3
@mlegrand
@mlegrand 2 ай бұрын
@@tadejdanev5030 - I do have a TRex3 video coming up. 🙌
@tadejdanev5030
@tadejdanev5030 2 ай бұрын
@@mlegrand cant wait :)
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