Short Turns Demystified

[@myfelicidade]

One of the best video out there for sure! Classification of the type of turns, and recognition that they all have their own purpose is very refreshing.

[@dj_617]

Great video of classic Austrian short turns. Great how you pull back and tip the inside foot.

[@JB-tu1to]

One of my favorite videos. I find many videos annoying because they advocate or condemn techniques without any reference to the underlying physics involved, and as a result are simplistic (up unweighting=bad, etc.). Thank you for a video that can be enjoyed by skiers who also think about Newton.

[@Triggerboy62]

Hi, thank you so much for such great feedback and thanks for watching. Indeed, my physics teacher at the university said students make chairs fly up in the air, houses slide down the road and stand still cars tip over. And yes, old school skiing is really what everyone should learn instead of just carving. Cheers, Tom

[@MrArunasB]

Hi Tom, in your drill if Im getting it correctly you make oposit little turn or “opposite edge” before the main turn and doing it so you position you center mass correctly, and this move helps you to get your balance as it should and outcome is that you get ski energy from the main turn which is the main thing to get feeling of. When you get ski energy (momentum) which gets your skis in new turn and with the right rhythm your short turns became easy, and from my experience, the use of ski energy or momentum is one of the most important things in skiing and I'm trying to perfect it once you master it, your skiing progress overall gets to a higher level.

[@Triggerboy62]

Exactly. You make a turn in the opposite direction. That turn is then later on when you make short turns, part of the previous turn ending. Tom

[@tadeuszjastrzebski7791]

Excellent video. Narration explain so much. Waiting for more like that. Thank you.

[@andrewwhitelam3059]

Great explanation using concepts that everyone can relate to.

[@magnificoas388]

hello! pre-turn is a classical in France. It was teached...50 years ago :) We call this "contre virage". Strictly forbidden in competition now (replaced by vaulting)...I remember one of my coach shouting when one was executing pre turn... Very nice @ 11:34 it is the way we were learning "avalement" decades ago :)

[@LagartijaIncognito]

Thank you for the useful explanations!! Been trying to dial my short turns and the categorization helps understand the different variations.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thanks for watching and glad I could be of some help. Remember, short turns are linked. One turn relies on momentum from previous turn. If you dont have this momentum as in the first short turn in a row of several linked short turns, you need to create it yourself. Two basic options, up-unweight and pivot or pre-turn and pivot. Pre-turn is the concept taught in this video. This is the right video for you and Im here to answer all your questions :) . For fundamentals check out my 3 Way Concept videos.

[@kountchev1]

good explanations! thanx! waiting for the part where the carved short turns on steep slopes (!) are explained. hopefully this part is coming too! cheers! jordan

[@samyeoski]

15:05 I don't understand what you are doing here? Are you rolling your skis to the new edges with a pole plant or completing the previous turn with a pole plant? Is this to work on the transition between turns? Thanks

[@samyeoski]

What are you doing with your legs/skis? As it's not just a traverse with a pole touch

[@veliveli8996]

Tom, great video! Been trying to work on short turns and this will give me something to work with next time I am out. BTW, how do I get a hat like that?? Paljon kiitoksia!!

[@Triggerboy62]

Hahahaa.... just email me on [e-mail] and I will see what I can do. But dont tell anybody ;)

[@GangGang1]

Dos the turn start with a pole plant or dos it end with a pole plant????

[@hussainaljaberi1171]

I'll quote, "The most important thing about skiing moguls or bumps isn't doing it perfectly?????!" 😅

[@Triggerboy62]

Did I say that?

[@hussainaljaberi1171]

​@Triggerboy62 I thought you were planning to give a good clue at 2:28 and i felt foggy here"sorry". but the norm for newbies is bad turns execution at moguls and bumps at the beginning 🤔

[@hillers54]

Check / counter turn 😎😎😎

[@Triggerboy62]

Check :)

[@tabphilip4757]

What about down unweighting as well........ don’t forget that......!!

[@tabphilip4757]

Point taken. But thanks for a great explanation of a classic technique that still has much relevance today. It’s a nice way to ski....

[@TomBomBing]

First!

[@z3a3k3]

Hm, I can’t help wondering how people, who being skiers themselves, keep on finding fault with other skiers who also can ski very well and take care to share their experience with others? You know what, it just occurred to me right now as I was writing the above, I know the reason! It’s this dammned cultural communism: it has this inherent critique, to criticize every aspect of reality until it’s annihilated!!! 😲 😃💫😊

[@Wanderlust073]

Same nonsense on nearly every ski video. If not armchair technique criticism, then “that doesn’t look like a black to me” commentary. Opinions cloaked in anonymity offered without evidence. Welcome to the Internet.

[@z3a3k3]

Triggerboy62 And it does make sense what you do. My skiing improved noticably, and it’s my ski companions who observed that too, thanks to such internet tutorials like yours. Living far from the mountains I need to at least sort things out in my head and do some dryland training so as to more efficiently use these few precious days on the slope. Thank you -:)

[@z3a3k3]

Wanderlust073 Those anonymous nagators can be a nuisance but their fun is that of a drunk smashing things on the way after a night out. These ‘intelligent’ ones who go contrary to whatever is true get me thinking ...

[@z3a3k3]

Indeed, the case. You seem to have figured out human reactions as much as skiing techniques, the examples right at hand. I usually let the mountain verify first what I learn, then might ask a question. Thanks anyway.

[@Dr.Jivago-x8u]

Hi, one year is an eternity, I can saying, u send me a message from Precambrian, sir !🤓

[@Triggerboy62]

One year is an eternity but one minute can last a lifetime :)

[@TalentedDilittante]

Friend, you're incoherent. You need a writer to organize your thoughts. I tried to listen to you, but threw up my hands and quit at 6:15. SERIOUSLY, listen!

[@Triggerboy62]

Hi, thanks for watching and commenting. Sorry if that came out unclear. I categorize turns into "carved" and "skidded" turns. Skidded turns I then subcategorize into "turning out of a traverse" and "linking turns".

[@mrnoodle43]

Rollerblade skis.

[@mrnoodle43]

@@Triggerboy62 yeppa do. Everything is easier with a super short ski. What length of ski do you use. Looks like a 158. 😁

[@mrnoodle43]

@@Triggerboy62 yup. Like having rollerblades on your feet. Still takes skill to make them perform. Will play w your drill next ski. 😁 Big problem I see is to many skiers are locked up at the end of the turn. I teach aiming the inside knee to try to unlock the hips. Shorten the inside leg and aim the knee. Thx for the reply sir.

[@mrnoodle43]

@@Triggerboy62 I allow the inside(uphill) knee to point in the direction of the turn. If the inside(uphill) leg is locked up the hips are locked up. As you shorten the inside(uphill) leg and aim the inside knee we in turn lighten the inside leg allowing us to now apply pressure to that foot and set the edge. I then aim my bases up the hill which in turn allows me to get onto my new downhill foot sooner. Hope this makes sense

[@rmsmith2396]

This is a this is a this ia a aaaa I'm sure the information is helpful but the delivery is terrible.

[@Triggerboy62]

Thank you for your honest opinion. And thanks for watching.

[@justyolivieri5807]

Excuse me, but your skiing is as bad as your speech. And the analysis you make makes no sense. How do this posts gets uploaded here?

[@justyolivieri5807]

@@Triggerboy62 Try writing in Spanish, or italian. I hope that is better than what I saw in the video!!

[@justyolivieri5807]

@@Triggerboy62 Sorry if I sounded rude! but the steering on a flat outside ski, the back position that makes difficult, instead of a steering of the tail of inside ski, while "standing" on the outside arc (BTS) on a more advance CM position, to produce the necessary gradual "slipping". To do steering Action you must have the skis on edge,. with a light pressure to facilitate the skidding. Those videos were from 2001 or before. The speaker is confusing!!!

[@chrisroblin3320]

''Les chiens aboient, la caravane passe''.