Trigon(DC) vs Pennywise(True Form)- Who Wins?

[@davidlitterson7992]

To the people that think pennywise will beat Trigon is absolutely wrong. Trigon is a spiritual demon that basically can manipulate and transcend his power to anything to anyone throughout the entire DC universe and the DC multiverse. everything pennywise has ever did plus has ever done Trigon did and done on multiple occasions beyond death it's self; infact just giving him a low ball trigon does not need to use any telepath abilities or physical abilities; infact pennywise is indeed a minion to Trigon because anything and everything pennywise had done and ever did Trigon has done on levels and the DC universe unimaginable levels that you can't even explain which basically shows you whenever Trigon tried to fight the Justice league and possibly darkseid no one could not beaten him but put him inside Raven's diamond or like dark side did and justice league dark apocalypse war dark side used his laser beams to shear Trigon inside because Trigon is an inevitable demon that cannot be defeated by anything because he is beyond death it's self. And that is just a low ball and I'm going to leave that here.

[@BigSirSplash]

Can you site your sources? I cited every single one of mine lol. Its convenient to write all you wrote, without any justification. Pennywise is the One Who Consumes Stephen King, is own Author, in Dark Towers, stated Pennywise can kill him. Pennywise himself is also above the gunslinger, who can mind hax and even kill stephen king. So, where in the comics does it say Trigon is beyond the idea of size itself? This proposition may confuse you. You seem confused as you believe these things about trigon, when he has lost multiple times. So I need you to cite every source when you address this: 1 Universe in the SK verse= a grain of sand on a beach. However, each grain of sand is actually trillions of universes. Each one of those universes contains and infinity inside of it. All of these are on the beach that normal beings in the verse walk. It Takes time for Trigon to conquer 1 Universe, when gunslinger tier(who is below Penny btw) ACCIDENTLY walk, and when they do, they accidently knock away infinite multiverses. But this is just the beginning. You see, in DT 7, Man in Black continues to explain that size itself, encompasses the idea of life itself. Life comes from spirituality and other such abstract principles. You said Trigon is "spiritual" correct? Your words, not mine. So we will go with that. We will highball and say Trigon scales to the idea of Life itself(this would imply hes above the source in DC😂😂😂). Now, thats just the conceptual idea of life. This concept is then encompassed by the idea of size. Whats that? The idea of infinite layers of infinite. That no matter what you believes is the final transcendence, their is infinite transcendences to go. This, the idea of "size", infinitely Transcends Trigon. Now, we still have to keep going even though Trigons already dead, because you need to understand the true lengths of your ignorance. I will help you. Now that we have infinitely transcended the idea of life itself, and encompassed it with Size, this all is encompassed by the Dark Tower😂😂😂. The Dark tower is "everything and anything. All things possible and impossible." This, which is above something that infinitely Transcends Trigon, Dark Tower sits on the back of Maturin the Turtle. This Turtle exists in the larger Macroverse. Multiple layers of infinite transcendence beyond even the idea of infinitely transcending😂😂😂. Beyond the macroverse? Pennywise.😈 I horrifically lowballed penny in this video to make it somewhat competitive. Now, because of comments like yours, I understand you need it all. You need to understand how bad it REALLY is.

[@davidlitterson7992]

@@BigSirSplash as I said from the beginning that was a big low ball of all Trigon does at his lowest but let me go ahead and give you some of the facts. 1. He can reshape entire planets with the snap of his fingers. He's drained the souls of millions of worlds and can create wormholes to other dimensions and legions of demon hordes with a single thought. this is still a lowball. On multiple occasions, he has defeated the Teen Titans and the Justice League. In the times that you recall Trigon being defeated was only by raven his daughter. Unless you can show me some others. 2. Highball; if Trigon can destroy millions of worlds and planets with the single thought what do you think he can do with millions of multiverses if he ever use the maximum amount of his power it's not that hard to understand in rationalize if he can destroy millions of planets at the snap of his thing finger that should tell you he can and will do a lot more when it comes to an entire universe and multiverses in fact I will also include not just only transcending his power in his well-being and other characters but he can also transcend himself to infinity plus infinity in fact he can become infinity himself on top of that your explanation of how the life of the universe is just as one speck of a grain of sand that has an infinite amount of infinity is ongoing and never stops the same way Trigon is and can be. In fact if Trigon wanted to he will be the entire Beach that holds and carries trillions and trillions in infinite amount of infinity he will be the infinite amount of universes himself if he wanted to but for some reason Trigon chooses not to because of his own personal reasoning, because of him having all of that power he has nothing else throughout infinity times infinity to conquer so he put most of rarely well all of his powers aside and rarely use any of them. 3. And you're saying that you was explaining trigon will already be dead if his Transcendence only stopped at one universe as you recall me saying that only giving him a low ball, that the Transcendence goes on to infinity and it's not that it's one Transcendence it's always another to infinity so as I was saying now he would not be dead because if he transcend to Transcendence itself then he's going to transcend into infinity and let's just say the Transcendence of life stops at the universe then he is the Transcendence of that whole universe. So in your own words that the Transcendence of Life keeps going infinitely right so by Trigon being the Transcendence of life he himself is the Transcendence of life infinitely as it goes and never stops. As I said from the beginning he can be that entire Beach with all that grain of sand. But he chooses not to because there will be nothing no more for him to conquer or do because he's infinity to infinity Non-Stop. So yes my brother as I said from the beginning pennywise is a minion to trigon beneath his feet.

[@davidlitterson7992]

And I will also like to add Trigon can transcend life himself bigger than the macroverse so please pennywise is just a joke to this guy another little joker

[@BigSirSplash]

@@davidlitterson7992 so you cant read. Lol. I am screenshotting this for future content😂. Your response to a being being INFINITELY transcendental to the idea of infinite transcendences, was to say "Trigon can kill millions of worlds." 😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂😭😂 im rolling bro you actually made me laugh irl😂 have a good week

[@BigSirSplash]

@@davidlitterson7992 LMFAO YOU SAID TRIGON IS ABOVE PRESENCE AND THE SOURCE I REALLY GOT YOU TO DO IT😂😂😂 I am truly the goat😈

[@MidnightMonsterClub]

So happy you pulled from the Book IT’s an absolute beast!

[@deonte8355]

Never seen someone scale penny wises true form

[@Judas.G0J]

Pennywise transcended my expectations, damn

[@davidogundipe808]

When I'm about going to bed your favorite villain uploads.

[@ashtonhaynie9082]

I was not expecting these two demons to fight

[@ashtonhaynie9082]

Joker vs Pennywise LOL

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

That would have been better😁

[@jjdaman2149]

emporor joker

[@sonicelimario2892]

@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 your funny

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@sonicelimario2892 that surely was a joke by my side

[@sonicelimario2892]

@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 and you succeeded at making the joke funny

[@ducksoup6986]

Does this mean Superman would stand a better chance, being the embodiment of hope and justice and all that?

[@Bigsmoke-tn3wf]

Yeah

[@GokuJR5467]

Superman wouldn't defeat Trigon pennywise perhaps

[@Leomessi-nf4iw]

@@tinalovre noo,wtf

[@Leomessi-nf4iw]

@@tinalovre ur saying pennywise solos dc and marvel?nah g fck off

[@Leomessi-nf4iw]

@@mr.laststand5566 fr?

[@LetQCook]

Glad we're finally delving into the incredibly broken dope Stephen King Verse, and guys remember, it was written True Form Penny is most likely just a minuscule thought of Gan's mind.......

[@fancyxemon2706]

Hello, Q! I have found a lot of your comments in this video and it seems that you are pretty acknowledgeable about Dark Tower than I am. Say, do you have Discord or Reddit? Because if you don't mind, I'd like to talk about Dark Tower and learn more about the fictional verse from someone like you.

[@LetQCook]

@@fancyxemon2706 uhh sure, I have a discord, Morpheus#9956

[@fancyxemon2706]

@@LetQCook Alright. I'll add you right now.

[@dbxncops4418]

Pennywaise >>> Gan

[@phantasmo88]

@@dbxncops4418 no wrong

[@tomchuur6431]

This was crazy

[@thediplomat4418]

Resides in nothing inside of nothing inside the Macroverse, damn this dude is busted lol

[@spinozilla2421]

People really sleep on my boi pennywise and forget that kids had a outerversal amp in order to even stand a chance to him

[@keithcole8536]

Because his weak

[@Flaobiedu]

No bc they found out his weakness dummy

[@spinozilla2421]

@@keithcole8536 nope

[@spinozilla2421]

@@Flaobiedu a weakness that that needed help of massive physic amp to inorder to achieve it as before ritual they couldn’t do anything thing him, and even with this power up they only destroy avatar of him and never his true form

[@keithcole8536]

@@spinozilla2421 yep

[@damianstarks3338]

Interesting fight.

[@BigSirSplash]

😎

[@TallWomenEnjoyer]

@@LASLAY13 BILLY agrees

[@johnmartinez631]

Please do a series on the Stephen king multiverse

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

Nice goggles😙

[@NerdyCommenter]

The Stephen king verse was always a confusing verse. I'm interested in seeing some scaling for some of the dark tower characters

[@narutokurosaki2929]

Trigon literally dwarf the concept like love, hope. That's like god sphere lmao

[@bantuboi3131]

Idk about the hope thing. It was mostly Gan backing the Losers club. He willed them to win, and they did. Since Gan is essentially Stephen King himself, Pennywise was defeated(temporarily) by plot. But even that didnt work as Penny shows up in 2 other novels that take place after IT. For those that don't know, Gan is basically god in the Stephen King verse, and its a self insert. He writes the books and that dictates what happens. It's a massive 4th wall break. But even Pennywise is something he cant put down for good. But its pretty funny when Penny starts to lose and begins to question if someone as powerful as him traveled with him to the current universe/world he's in.

[@jeremiahsamvs2341]

Great video keep it up

[@Gavin_sfc]

“And we all know Superman is omnipotent”

[@BigSirSplash]

Fax

[@shadow15kryans23]

@@BigSirSplash Yo Can i chill with you on Discord or something Sometime??? I got A LOT of Interesting True Darkseid scaling, that most don't know about, that i think you will find cool AF....

[@BigSirSplash]

@@shadow15kryans23 youd have to become a member lol

[@thebeyonder4138]

Nah Batman rapes

[@keithcole8536]

His even stronger when hit with a quasar because then at that point his nigh omnipotent

[@kianwhittle]

You should definitely keep this Stephen king stuff going and are you also going to cover oblivion or protege from marvel at any point?

[@BigSirSplash]

I considered Protege vs Dream

[@kianwhittle]

@@BigSirSplash ooooh that sounds good 👌🏻

[@kianwhittle]

@@BigSirSplash also a question about oblivion’s true form can it be destroyed? Because If you were to destroy something in marvel like existence wouldn’t that mean it would all just become oblivion since oblivion is non existence itself?

[@evolveaxsym9422]

@@BigSirSplash I'm pretty sure this is a stomp, but what about pre retcon beyonder vs dream?

[@thebeyonder4138]

@@evolveaxsym9422 yes

[@brandonnix7278]

And people want Pennywise to fight Freddy Krueger. Poor Fred the Necronomicon won't save him.

[@plzletmein3267]

I think they’re talking about penny wises avatar instead of the actual true form(either way he still easily wins lmao)

[@brandonnix7278]

@@plzletmein3267 I still like the matchup and it'd be cool in animation. I'm just a little sad Freddy gets stomped though to give him some credit I do think he can beat some of IT's weaker avatars.

[@plzletmein3267]

@@brandonnix7278 maybe but he would have to bring them into the dream world and wouldn’t that mean bringing pennys true form as well?

[@brandonnix7278]

@@plzletmein3267 That might be a little tricky. But I do think an avatar can get in the dream world without the true form since True Pennywise mostly exists in the macroverse outside of our reality. While the Dream World is just a parallel realm to our reality.

[@plzletmein3267]

@@brandonnix7278 well if that was the case it took a few kids with lucid dreams to beat Freddy while it took a few kids with the help of a godlike entity to have them stand a chance

[@thirtydindy701]

Man i love all ur vids

[@akhonambalula9436]

Stephen king verse is no joke

[@Endgame707]

great video dude

[@kindle184]

Dark tower is really insane verse really inspired from cosmic horror (lovecraft).

[@BigSirSplash]

Funny enough, King listed Tolkien as his major inflence

[@kindle184]

@@BigSirSplash well I don't have much knowledge on lotr franchise haha so could be.

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@BigSirSplash man, everyone took inspiration from Tolkien's works, what a legend.

[@BigSirSplash]

@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 yeah King himself said Tolkiens thr goat and that if you claim he didnt inspire your writing you are lying lol

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@BigSirSplash yah, Tolkien's the GOAT without a doubt.

[@Hermit7414]

Please more Stephen king I just did a small bit of research into the lore and It’s insane

[@BigSirSplash]

You should become a member👀

[@shadowfire6003]

LET'S GO!! Pennywise solos fiction? Also, this hit 400 likes, so will you make another King Verse Video?

[@BigSirSplash]

Already did

[@tajup8741]

I wonder why people think trigon is on the level of the Presence

[@thebeyonder4138]

Real

[@danielsemakula1526]

@@thebeyonder4138 your op

[@danielsemakula1526]

@@thebeyonder4138 could probably solo most fiction

[@danielsemakula1526]

@@tinalovre how come

[@danielsemakula1526]

@@tinalovre it was a forced retcon. And apparently I didn’t read the comic so u don’t even know how he got defeated. Second Pennywise lost to a bunch of kids but that doesn’t make him any less powerful than he is

[@PantherCrane]

Marquise Of Death vs Mad Jim Jaspers! 🤯

[@GamrMonstr]

If you were surprised by the power or trigon and penny dude you gotta look into doom patrol they’re insanely op.

[@WearyFeline]

Please do Chaos King VS True Form Penny. That versus match sounds cool af.

[@peacefulman9369]

Penny negs.

[@WearyFeline]

@@peacefulman9369 Ehh idk.

[@geekymetalhead5112]

True Form Penny vs TOAA

[@TheBoltcranck]

Stephen King verse is so vast, hope you can bring videos about it.

[@salahsaleem518]

Awesome video more Steven King stuff and grant morrison multiversety and Cosmology

[@itsjj4266]

Where would this scale Pennywise is he as strong as people like toaa and the presence of DC?

[@ackeemfyffe3091]

How about a video on bill cipher from gravity falls

[@aaronkolatch5211]

I'd like to see True Form Pennywise versus True Form Darkside.

[@peacefulman9369]

What has poor Darksied ever done to you 😭

[@godzillagurus576]

Bruh that clown is going to eat his head off.

[@aaronkolatch5211]

@@godzillagurus576 you're probably right about that. 😂😂😂

[@aaronkolatch5211]

@@peacefulman9369 🤣🤣🤣

[@kalameliviki4790]

True form pennywise vs bill chifer

[@godzillagurus576]

Penny eats him .

[@dominicduran6986]

You cant even describe pennywise power level its inconceivable

[@BenImmortal]

Blessed are the characters who never job

[@bojakai2102]

Trigon vs Dormmamu? True Form Pennywise vs True Form Darkseid?

[@KOOLAIDMAN-tp2zu]

Bumblebee vs Christine

[@qevansable]

True form Darkseid vs true form pennywise

[@thetf8142]

Penny wise slams He has literally combatted against the author of his story

[@BillCipherandFreddyKreugerFan]

Fax

[@manngay5046]

Lucifer Morningstar (Vertigo Comics) vs The Crimson King (The Dark Tower) Both are Devil Figures and that's pretty much it.

[@LetQCook]

Crimson King most likely takes it

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

Donno who'd win, but Lucifer's a big MF, you'll know if you have read Sandman and Lucifer.

[@shadow15kryans23]

Damn that is a good one

[@Maelkor]

Lucifer stomps big missmatch

[@LetQCook]

@@Maelkor absolutely wrong

[@chrisbrownie1511]

Do wolverine vs t1000

[@yourareoneiam2bythewayhowa744]

Pennywise vs Azathoth

[@BackwardsMMA]

Azathoth would MURDER him, zero dif

[@LetQCook]

@@BackwardsMMA Gan vs Azathoth would be juicy

[@BackwardsMMA]

@@LetQCook Fairly certain Azathoth would win, but it would be awesome.

[@TheMasterReaper]

@@LetQCook Azathoth bullies the verse

[@LetQCook]

@@TheMasterReaper we're doing more and more research on the King verse and this has potential to blow the Lovecraft Mythos out of the water

[@Endgame707]

Hey you think could win trigon or the great evil beast since they are both considered incarnations of evil

[@Anil-mt7or]

Trigon vs Clown Yeah I see the true winner here.

[@keithcole8536]

Yep its trigon

[@keithcole8536]

@@michaelmyers849 I'm not

[@keithcole8536]

@@michaelmyers849 not really but if you think so your wrong

[@keithcole8536]

@@michaelmyers849 nope

[@Flaobiedu]

@@keithcole8536 you are so so wrong

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

Wouldn't they both be the same being if we consider them abstract or personification of evil, hatred and stuff??

[@BigSirSplash]

No

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@BigSirSplash recently I've been watching many of the hypothetical vs battles of these conceptual characters and its raising questions in my mind of how its even possible. Like if you put Death (marvel) vs Death (DC) or Presence vs OAA, wouldn't they just be the same beings working for different verses in different forms?

[@BigSirSplash]

@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 some verses clarify how far a concept goes in their verse. For example, nightmare might be below archetypes in one verse, but conceptually beyond them in another verse. Depends on the cosmology

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@BigSirSplash ok, I get it.

[@culturedwrench6811]

I've always wondered if domammu can beat trigon but not gonna lie finding out pennywise can clown trigon is just a straight smack in the face and my coulrophobia just increased

[@keithcole8536]

He cant

[@manno150]

@@keithcole8536 he can

[@keithcole8536]

@@manno150 nope

[@k.s.9138]

@Keith Cole he can

[@kalameliviki4790]

Rune king Thor vs immortal hulk

[@midekubrandio8592]

Emperor Joker vs Pennywise XD.

[@tok8037]

@@tinalovre lol dc stomps it pennywise fanboy

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@tok8037 tell yourself that

[@DragonCat846]

Teen Titans and Teen Titans Go Trigon was 1 & separate at the same time

[@DeltoidZ3814]

Be cool to see the Dragon born from Skyrim in a Battle.

[@BackwardsMMA]

Gan vs The Presence, they both transcend there own respective verses, which has high outerversal characters and structures. It’s be nice to see more Steven king respect, maybe to see if it’s up there with the top dogs.

[@BackwardsMMA]

@@tinalovre Yeah he does

[@achimpanzee9210]

@@tinalovre who’s top 5

[@an0rangutan]

Bro, Pennywise has a Turtle as a rival, bro unless you a Hare, ain't nobody weak enough to have a Turtle as a rival, come on. (Don't want to hear nothing about TMNT or Gamera)

[@LetQCook]

I mean one of the 12 Guardians of the Dark Tower alongside Maturin is Owsla the Hare. So yeahhhhh there actually is a outerversal Hare in the Stephen King verse lol

[@an0rangutan]

@@LetQCook Damn, lol

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

Ninja Turtle stomps

[@an0rangutan]

@@monitor-mindtheover-void6712 Stomps who?

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

@@an0rangutan everything, everyone, everywhere, everytime

[@analternatemultiverse2063]

Pennywise stomps.

[@geekymetalhead5112]

I got one....True Form Penny vs TOAA

[@imstrongerthanyouthink9966]

So basically Trigon is at least Hyperversal to possibly Outerversal and True Penny is Outerversal or possibly above. Ok but how would Penny get stronger throughout the fight, Pretty sure he only gets stronger by feeding off of fear which trigon wouldn't fear him.

[@BigSirSplash]

Less form he has the stronger he gets. He would keep receding and overwhelm.

[@imstrongerthanyouthink9966]

@@BigSirSplash wait so your saying everytime Trigon kills him he'd come back until he defeats Trigon?

[@BigSirSplash]

@@imstrongerthanyouthink9966 no lol. Penny would recede further into Nothing then Beyond and trigons arguably not strong enough to fight him at that point

[@imstrongerthanyouthink9966]

@@BigSirSplash So he'd just run away into Nothing then beyond and win?

[@BigSirSplash]

@@imstrongerthanyouthink9966 yeah hes just a higher level

[@DragonCat846]

So Trigon Concord ultimate universe's like it's Christmas shopping😕!

[@luvcryo3245]

is Crimson King above True Form Pennywise?

[@BigSirSplash]

Yes

[@LetQCook]

Penny is like an ant compared to the CK

[@tongueviciousnemenace8028]

Who wins Melkor vs Trigon

[@eivor5453]

Pennywise wins

[@Rober-fs1tx]

No

[@slowassassin2610]

Oryx the taken king vs chaos king?

[@jkink6974]

I have seen the video yet but my money is on pennywise

[@keithcole8536]

Trigon murders the cosmic entity known as pennywise

[@LetQCook]

LOL not even close Trigon gets stomped

[@davidlitterson7992]

Keith cole thank you

[@davidlitterson7992]

@Gasper Vidovic nevermind them keith cole these guys have NO IDEA about trigon true and full power

[@davidlitterson7992]

@Gasper Vidovic and just for the record I will make a video showing you how WRONG splash is about trigon

[@eivor5453]

Read the novels lmao trigon gets slapped

[@kingtodd6760]

Eric Bana’s Hulk vs Edward Norton’s Hulk Just use the 2008 movie

[@williamsummerson1204]

I choose pennywise

[@Mr.Voiddweller]

You said steven king multiverse 6:27 i'm not sure if that's the correct way of wording it would it have sounded weird if you said outerverse?

[@tobiasbaumgartner8629]

If pennywise is so powerful then why chase a couple of kids?

[@BigSirSplash]

I explained in the video? Children produce some of the rawest abstract imagination possible. Penny eats that abstract imagination.

[@tobiasbaumgartner8629]

@@BigSirSplash why do he have to chase them and just not take them if he is so powerful?

[@BigSirSplash]

@@tobiasbaumgartner8629 hes not as powerful in creation bc he has to take Form, when he is meant to be Formless. He chases to inspire their imagination to eat more.

[@tobiasbaumgartner8629]

@@BigSirSplash ah yeah make sense

[@josethebeast8709]

Maybe Raven can take him

[@shadow15kryans23]

True Since She has the Good side of Her emotions which Dwindle Pennywise's Power.... Sooo, She can EASILY probs take him if she is on her home turf inside creation at least Outside of Creation on Pennywise's Home Turf though it gets questionable

[@shadow15kryans23]

@@tinalovre Bruh.... I'm literally basing this conclusion on canonical Pennywise dynamics.... Pennywise is weakened within Creation Canonically.... He ALSO is weakened against the pure of heart people canonically..... This is how a couple of kids within real Canon books with Pennywise in them, sometimes manages to beat pennywise.... And This is weak KIDS, with no powers. Anyways... When ignoring these weaknesses though Raven gets Wrecked. I'm Implying when said weaknesses are in effect THEN Raven wins... Do Something called "Actually Reading" my comment next time before being such a dumbass. 🤦🤡🤡🤡😂🤣

[@shadow15kryans23]

@@tinalovre Sidenote: Also Realize.... That I never mentioned she could beat pennywise without the Rituals! I just am Implying that she "Can" take him.... A Probability aka a potential, that she can beat him! Even though not a High Likelihood aka Plausibility. Nice arguing with the Strawman, and eating your own words Delusional boiii 🤡🤡🤡

[@shadow15kryans23]

​@@tinalovre Already Covered that saying in the other comment reply section "It's For His True Form when Intersecting the plane of Creation! An Avatar by Definition is "a manifestation of a deity or released soul in bodily form on earth; an incarnate divine teacher." OR "an incarnation, embodiment, or manifestation of a person or idea." Incarnation by Definition is "a person who embodies in the flesh a deity, spirit, or abstract quality." and Manifestation is "an event, action, or object that clearly shows or embodies something, especially a theory or an abstract idea." Sooo, A Avatar is a Deity in Flesh Form.... But, Pennywise Isn't really NORMAL Flesh let alone a "Deity" he is MUCH more.... In Canonical Books he still can shapeshift and etc.... which isn't normal "Flesh" qualities! While Emanation is the Next step up meaning "an abstract but perceptible thing that issues or originates from a source." ^ This is the better term.... Because, It stems from the Source of Pennywise... It is a Fragment of the Whole... Just as Humans can only see a Fragment of the Whole of Pennywise (in order not to go crazy).... Sooo, CORRECTION... That Applies to an Emanation of Pennywise! NOT An Avatar of Pennywise... Still Though.... If you actually read the Book, the Ritual is based on Maturin the Turtle... Pennywise True Forms Equal and Opposite Brother! Sooo, Even if we applied this to True Form, it still would effect his True Form IF somehow his True Form Could Manifest within Creation as a Whole. Sooo, This "Avatar" or more accurately "Emanation" mention, really is just a load of excuses considering it doesn't make any Difference in the Ritual itself! No Matter how you look at it, it still is a weakness... Nice Excuses though! 🤡😂🤣💀"

[@shadow15kryans23]

​@@tinalovre Sooo, Yeeeeah... If Canonically Maturin is Pennywises Equal and Opposite Brother... This "AvAtAr" mention is just a load of Bullshit Excuses, since this origin implies it would apply both ways! 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤡🤡

[@cheesefinder111]

Pennywise eats Marvel and DC

[@stateofoblivion8999]

So Trigon and Darkseid are defined similarly.

[@BigSirSplash]

Not in power but similar in how people think they function

[@stateofoblivion8999]

@@BigSirSplash Makes sense. If I remember correctly Darkseid can function without the concept of Evil within the verse.

[@abhibp5095]

@@BigSirSplash who is stronger in both then?

[@BigSirSplash]

@@abhibp5095 probably darkseid

[@abhibp5095]

@@BigSirSplash Please do a video of Trigon vs Darkseid.. Love ua content by d way

[@a6yss_149]

can you please do fate vs strange just to shut gate fans up please. they won’t get over the death battle

[@LetQCook]

He already debunked it

[@achimpanzee9210]

I think he already stated that fate would win and that he was using classic strange

[@kyesadler1721]

This is a joke right trigon wins his sons are cosmic beings like Etrigan, penny wise take the L all day long

[@BigSirSplash]

He does? Which part of the pennywise scaling suggests that? Penny is bigger than the idea of size itself. Size is the idea that something can always transcend infinitely. All of trigons sons got thugged by phantom stranger except Belial😂

[@davidlitterson7992]

Kye sadler only the very few understand the true power of trigon. Others want proof of feats because they don't understand the common basis of his power.

[@BigSirSplash]

@@davidlitterson7992 if i accused you of murder, and you say prove it, i say I dont need my evidence, just my opinion. You then get put on deaths row. Thats cool right? Evidence isnt neccessary right? In your world

[@davidlitterson7992]

@@BigSirSplash we're talking about two different worlds here and that doesn't justify proof that someone actually did it. There is people that have been charged with murder with irrefutable proof and solid evidence that they did not commit but was still overturned by the judge in sentenced, very few this happened to but it doesn't matter it still happened. Now back to Trigon the common basis of this guy's power is that he is immortal spiritual entity that cannot die so what there's comic book feats of him getting beat and possibly destroyed by other characters but it does not prove that Trigon the beneath dc op characters. Look at the reasoning for the authors and the people who made Trigon all Trigon does and wants to do is destroy and conquer worlds universes multiverses etc and he doesn't have no other purpose to be a character of villain at that above all

[@davidlitterson7992]

Trigon does not have no purpose no more to be the being he actually is he's literally a higher form in a out of her soul entity he doesn't even come from none of the main DC universes or multiverses in fact he has a infinite universe of his own and that is called hell and there are infinite versions in his universe of hell but if you really honestly care to do your research all it takes for you to do is look at the common base of his power. Look at Goku's primal source if Goku train his base power at universal and he goes super Saiyan he'll be 50 times that power. that's common basis! But of course guys like you want to see feats of him doing that but since there's no actual feats of him doing that thus far it makes it invalid to you which in your minds Goku can't do that when that is the literal and actual common base of his power that's how you understand your characters and your anime you don't seem to know anything about them based off all of the feats you saw in evaluated which makes you a not good of a comic book and anime evaluator at all. And you're the guy that actually thinks Captain America can beat Batman and that Captain America can beat bane you are literally out of your mind and I'm going to debunk your video that you made on Captain America and Batman and Captain America in bane

[@leaderzark]

pffff this isn't even a fair fight it is so one sided its not even funny. Pennywise cosmology is so much higher than Trigon's cosmology pennywise one shots Trigon no difficulty oh also pennywise solos Dc

[@Cieges]

Trigon in the new dceased comics defeated phantom stranger and a Constantine with some much magic support it’s ridiculous. He was wearing the helmet of nobu and was consistently seeing the future but still he lost

[@kindle184]

I don't think he fight phantom stranger in dceased comic also John was controlling the situation it was all as per his plan then he possess trigon and killed him.

[@anthonyhudak9363]

How about Pennywise vs Knull?

[@Lm-xd1qk]

How far does he reach marvel or dc tho

[@LetQCook]

Definitely High Outer

[@eivor5453]

Outversal. CAS can beat him tho

[@eivor5453]

@Gasper Vidovic CAS is outversal ++

[@eivor5453]

@Gasper Vidovic it actually does

[@eivor5453]

@Gasper Vidovic anyways CAS can still win this fight he's deus ex machina on legs

[@kingrobert7122]

Superman vs Pennywise

[@whiteisbetterthanwhitegay6289]

clown beats demon of course

[@Sam-Pound]

Penny clowns Trigon so much its not even funny

[@michalischronis5440]

Isnt Injustice Non canon? I mean its story is part of the game, so it belongs to the games franchise .. Therefore it is not connected to any DC comic reality.. By the way i dont think Trigon could beat Nabu.. Classic Fate could hold his own against Trigon.. If you mean Modern Fate i agree he would lose to Trigon.

[@BigSirSplash]

It was shown he had beaten Fate lol. Trigon is canon in all dc works bc theres only 1 form of trigon

[@monitor-mindtheover-void6712]

Every version of every character is canon in DC, all movies, games, TV shows and comics. But there is only one version of Mxy in multiverse as it was shown in Superman Reborn. Injustice world was erased in Convergence story BTW

[@michalischronis5440]

@@BigSirSplashI understand what you are saying but Injustice itself is part of a game story so is that Trigon..not all stories can be cannon if the editors dont have a common strategy to make them all fit in..like i said, modern Fate would lose, so actually losing to Trigon is not so surprising..

[@BigSirSplash]

@@michalischronis5440 ok so your authority usurps DC comics? Lol. They said its only 1 Trigon so all appearences are him. But apologies, I didnt know you bought dc comics

[@michalischronis5440]

@@BigSirSplash Haha is that what you understood from what i wrote? I say gaming and comics are too different things.. They made a comic version of the game that is based on the game and not to the rest of DC comics.. the question is Injustice game now Canon to comics ?because they were definitely not in the past... My comment on editors not fitting all stories was not only about this case but more general as well.

[@MidnightMonsterClub]

Damn right 🤡🎈

[@SUthunder14]

Does this mean the Thing (with or without his infinity version) can beat novel pennywise because he's full of love and (maybe) hope?

[@kanekx5962]

U despise trigon

[@ethanpasok209]

Chaos king vs true form pennywise

[@michalischronis5440]

I wonder if Chaos King could absorb him.. Otherwise its a stalemate..

[@LetQCook]

@@michalischronis5440 idk how you could absorb a non-corporeal entity residing in a void of nothingness behind nothingness lol

[@michalischronis5440]

@@LetQCook Pennywise is a being that represents a part of existence, so maybe as an existing being even if non corporeal he could be absorbed by a Non existing being... If Pennywise had the power to create instead of devouring, he could Counter Non existence.. Maybe.. Thats how i thought of it..

[@kindle184]

@@michalischronis5440 no lol pennywise is an entity beyond nothingness.

[@TheMasterReaper]

Chaos King stomps easily

[@nutmatical1042]

Trigon stomps

[@analternatemultiverse2063]

🗿🗿🗿

[@بشرى-ث8ذ3ش]

Wrong

[@peacefulman9369]

No

[@kanekx5962]

Pennywise>surfer

[@LetQCook]

LMAO no shit

[@kanekx5962]

@@LetQCook that was a joke considering surfer is omnipotent

[@LetQCook]

@@kanekx5962 haha you gotta say ComicVine Surfer then 😆

[@kanekx5962]

@@LetQCook we can't mention him, he stomps every omnipotent character with 0.0001% of his suppressed power

[@shadow15kryans23]

@@kanekx5962 HAHAHAHAHAHA Love this comment section sometime 😂🤣

[@inkkid376]

Trigon is pan lol