Trinity vs. Tawheed Debate | Sheikh Nasser Karimian vs. Rev. Samuel Green

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Dr. Nasser Karimian

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@celestialknight2339 3 ай бұрын

Dr. Nasser: facts, logic, scripture. Dr. Samuel Greene: emotion, theology, opinion.

@apicemstudios 3 ай бұрын

I attended this debate! So nice to see such an eloquent presentation by Dr. Nasser. I hope to see more of these!

@ТавхидСултан-ь8п 4 ай бұрын

Wallah it brings joy to my eyes seeing all the views subscribers and likes. Your channel deserves much much more attention. Thank you for daily guidance dear sheikh

@jamalkhan3708 3 ай бұрын

But you will not see my comment because Islam can’t handle the truth. Jesus Christ is the truth.

@donkeykong2.0 3 ай бұрын

@jamalkhan3708 exactly

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

1. Linguistically Allah Elahi Eloah Alaha are all linguistic cognates for the one God not "gods" ilah is generic God in Arabic Allah is The One God in Arabic eloh is generic God in Hebrew Elohim is plural so can be used for Gods Eloah or Eloheinu is The One God in Hebrew Hebrew prayers still use Eloheinu e.g. Baruch ata Adonai Eloheinu 2. Aramaic Hebrew Amharic and Arabic are all within the same family Semitic modernly or Afro-Asiatic 3. Factually Prophets such as Joshua Isaiah Elijah all praise YHWH ( btw YaHuWa in Arabic means "Oh He Is" or "Oh He Is the only one who ever was , is , and will ever be." HU and HUWA are referring to the Most High) 4. but what about all the -el prophets names in the Bible? Such as Ezekiel Daniel Ishmael these names praise Eloah or Alaha/Ilahi or Allah s.w.t. 5. Michael Gabriel also the Angels of heaven have -el names only 6. There are at least 72 names of God in Judaism and at least 99 in Islam many are identical Ar Rahman ArRachaman El Kodesh Al Quddus Ahad Echad Eloheinu Allah 7. Prophet Muhammad's saws name is in the Bible in Hebrew pronounced as Mukhammad(im)

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@@jamalkhan3708 1. Linguistically Allah Elahi Eloah Alaha are all linguistic cognates for the one God not "gods" ilah is generic God in Arabic Allah is The One God in Arabic eloh is generic God in Hebrew Elohim is plural so can be used for Gods Eloah or Eloheinu is The One God in Hebrew Hebrew prayers still use Eloheinu e.g. Baruch ata Adonai Eloheinu 2. Aramaic Hebrew Amharic and Arabic are all within the same family Semitic modernly or Afro-Asiatic 3. Factually Prophets such as Joshua Isaiah Elijah all praise YHWH ( btw YaHuWa in Arabic means "Oh He Is" or "Oh He Is the only one who ever was , is , and will ever be." HU and HUWA are referring to the Most High) 4. but what about all the -el prophets names in the Bible? Such as Ezekiel Daniel Ishmael these names praise Eloah or Alaha/Ilahi or Allah s.w.t. 5. Michael Gabriel also the Angels of heaven have -el names only 6. There are at least 72 names of God in Judaism and at least 99 in Islam many are identical Ar Rahman ArRachaman El Kodesh Al Quddus Ahad Echad Eloheinu Allah 7. Prophet Muhammad's saws name is in the Bible in Hebrew pronounced as Mukhammad(im)

@odeebob7826 3 ай бұрын

Christians are led away from the authentic teachings of Jesus by Paul, who never met Jesus and wrote the new Bible. I'm thankful that Allah chose me to be a muslim

@TexasHoosier3118 3 ай бұрын

Jesus did meet Paul on the road to Damascus. The same way millions of Muslims meet Jesus these days - through dreams and visions. The crucifixion of Jesus is a historical fact. The sun does not set in a muddy pool. The Quran is a jumbled mess of some Bible truths and mythology all mixed together.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@hermithefrog629 2 ай бұрын

Paul never met Jesus in person. He described the experience in different ways. He changed key lessons that Jesus taught, such as not forgetting one iota of the law or prophecy. Paul very quickly "allowed" people to shirk rules. Yes, Jesus said it's what comes out from a man that matters more than what goes in, but other laws he observed that Paul rejects. Muhammad has a flawed base of knowledge. Details like baby Jesus giving blessings and the Trinity as God Jesus and Mary show he got his knowledge not from Gabriel who would know all details and correctly, but from his travels as a caravan hand.

@Lloyd-m7n Ай бұрын

@@hermithefrog629 He did meet Jesus - read Galatians 1

@Lloyd-m7n Ай бұрын

@@hermithefrog629 he did meet Jesus - read Galatians 1

@chrisraper6181 4 ай бұрын

I attended this debate. I'm glad to see that I can re-watch Dr. Karimian at 0.5 speed 😅. I'm also glad that his slides are visible in the video!

@silalm5445 3 ай бұрын

Hi Dr. Nasser, here is the answer and reviews of your video from S. Shamoun about tawheed debate, here is the link Sam wanted to debate you. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o56WiHyahq2rfNE

@fayaqun0 3 ай бұрын

Yeah, he is quite fast with his words 🤗

@carinaalexandrasimoes89 3 ай бұрын

🤣 glad I was not the only one doing

@malghorani 3 ай бұрын

Salam brother Nasser, not sure if you remember it has been a while but we were neighbours back in Malaysia in PV8. We had a lot of great and meaningful conversations alhamdulillah and we even worked out together. You have no idea how happy I am to see this debate. May Allah open up hearts to Islam using your voice and eloquence. Insha’Allah we meet up sometime in the future.

@dr.nasserk 3 ай бұрын

Yes! How are you Mohammad? I remember you, may Allah ﷻ bless you! If you ever visit the US please come visit me, barakallah feek!

@malghorani 3 ай бұрын

@@dr.nasserk alhamdulillah I’m doing well. Absolutely if I ever do I’ll reach out insha’Allah. I’m based in Dubai at the moment and if you happen to visit please don’t hesitate to message. May Allah bless you and barakAllah feek. Looking forward to more of these debates insha’Allah

@keekl6870 4 ай бұрын

Rev. Green has been debating with Muslims for as long as I can remember. It's not the eyes that are blind but the hearts. Allah guides whom He wills.

@MU-we8hz 4 ай бұрын

And he defeating all the muslims, but you hearts are blind.

@FlockOfYahweh 4 ай бұрын

Thanks for showing the plagiarism of the Quran with the Bible

@MU-we8hz 4 ай бұрын

@@FlockOfYahweh the quran is all over the place. It even quotes THE TALMUD!

@FlockOfYahweh 4 ай бұрын

@@MU-we8hz check out this hadith too As if I am looking at the Prophet (ﷺ) while he was speaking about one of the prophets whose people have beaten and wounded him, and he was wiping the blood off his face and saying, "O Lord! Forgive my, people as they do not know." Then why QURAN CHAPTER 3 VERSE 55 in some acceptable translations does it have Allah saying Jesus is going to die? Type in *Surah Al Imran, VERILY I CAUSE THEE TO DIE* but then in the next chapter verse 157 it says he didn’t die (QURAN 4:157) (Surah An Nisa ayat 157) QURAN IS EXPOSED AND MAKES NO SENSE AND IS FILTH

@rizwanramzan5729 4 ай бұрын

Sam Greene has been opposing Islam since 1990 or the late 80s because there is footage of Sam opposing Ahmed Deedat in an early 1990s video.. This poor soul has been misguided for over 33 yrs...smh...

@MuddassirJamalRazSalafi1996 4 ай бұрын

@dr.nasserk Shaikh You Completely Destroyed pauline Christianity❤. Keys to Debate: 04:06 samuel green's opening statement. 24:03 Shaikh Dr.Nasser's Opening Statement. 44:25 Samuel's 1st Rebuttal. 54:26 Shaikh Dr.Nasser's Rebuttal. 1:04:53 Samuel's 2nd Rebuttal. 1:09:57 Shaikh Dr.Nasser's 2ND Rebuttal. Q&A session, 1:16:30 First Question. Most important Question 1:34:05 Answered Jesus is Word Form ALLAH 1:35:20 And what is Tawheed. Another Important question Answered 1:40:11 Another Most Important question Answered 1:48:55

@aadil7302 3 ай бұрын

Lovely editing.Jazakallah for putting that slides

@SadioBouno 4 ай бұрын

I was there and thought this was such an educational and brilliant way to get people to reflect about their beliefs. Ma Shaa Allah, Dr. Nasser was amazing! I hope there will be more like these coming up In Shaa Allah.

@frossraps4034 3 ай бұрын

Brother Nasser, this is Nasser from Begas. So long since we spoke! I look forward to hearing this and love to see how you've grown.

@hatooma1000 4 ай бұрын

I feel sorry for Reverend Green. He knows he has a losing battle so every time he defensds his case he has to provide a false piece of information about Islam to kind of show that okay this is a problem we both have in Christianity and Islam. He might be fooling some of our fellow Christians who don't know any better but Muslims just listen and shake their heads at his nonsense.

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

What false information he provided?

@hatooma1000 3 ай бұрын

@@ChukwuemekaJohnson Where should I start? Basically frequently when he was cornered instead of answering the question he would start talking about Islam. That does not sound like somebody who is really convinced about his own religion. When he was asked about why there were disagreements about several parts in the Bible among biblical scholars and historians. And how these parts (and actually whole books) are not authentic historically. Instead of answering that he would say yes we have the same problem in Islam. And that he has 10,000 differences in the Quran that he has at home. And then he is showing us two Quran copies and is trying to say they are different. Maybe because Christians are ignorant of the Quran so that would work for them. But as Muslims we all know there is one Quran. Difference in writing style or in pronouncing style does not mean they are different Qurans. He did the same thing when he started talking about the differences in historical transcripts and current Bibles. Then again when he tried to explain the unexplainable Trinity he started saying that in Islam we say that God blew Gabriel. Nobody ever claimed that. What does that even mean?!

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

@@hatooma1000 I think he was trying to say that there are some forms of variants in the Quran that he was holding in his hand which is another debate he can't dive in at that moment.The Muslim debator was the one who first brought the topic up that the bible is corrupted. In the area of God breathing the spirit into Mary since the Muslims believe that Gabriel is the spirit so it will be right to say that Allah breath Gabriel into Mary.

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

@@ChukwuemekaJohnsonYou're doing just like the pastor. You have no idea who Jabriel is.

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

@@a.ld.b.9204 So answer who is Gabriel? Is he the holy spirit or an angel?

@brotainment7556 4 ай бұрын

I may not agree with the answer to my salvation question but I truly respect the brilliant character and arguments made, Dr. Nasser!

@sub7se7en 4 ай бұрын

Yours was the one at 1:29:53 right? In Islam we don't actually believe that you can get to paradise through works. It's actually through the mercy of God alone, which is explicitly stated in Islam. If God doesn't forgive us, which he will through expiation and repentance, then he'll hold us accountable for our misdeeds. And he will also generously reward us for the good that we do for his sake out of his many loving attributes. In these ways he is just but also merciful. I hope this answers the question more to your satisfaction. And I can provide references from Islamic sources if you're interested. Just a note, in the Old Testament of the Bible and the sayings attributed to Jesus you find something similar. In Ezekiel 18: 20-22 it teaches that sins are forgiven by repentance, and Jesus teaches in Matthew 19:16-30 that eternal life is by following the Law. He didn't once teach the atonement that Christians believe in. It's Paul who teaches that grace is free and that Jesus died for you. Jesus taught faith and works, which is corroborated by James. In the OT it's explicitly stated that God does not require nor desire a sin sacrifice in Psalm 40:6.

@brotainment7556 4 ай бұрын

@@sub7se7en Thank you for the in-depth response and explanation of The Islamic point of view on salvation. I learned something new 🙏🏾! However, with all due respect your perspective on the Christian faith when it comes to salvation is skewed. A common mistake Muslims make when it comes to Christianity is reading the Bible as though it was the Quran. Or reading to seek contradictions without context. Christian’s do this as well. Jesus in the gospel states he is above the laws because he has come to fulfilled them (Matthew 5:7). He also constantly states that salvation is through him ONLY (John 3:16-19, John 14:6). Paul is a proven vessel of God with revelation and a necessary voice post-Christ. Similar to how Muslims see Muhammad. Paul and James do not butt heads when it comes to salvation. James is not saying only works save in his writing or faith + works. He is saying you must have a faith THAT WORKS. Anyone can believe but their faith is futile if it doesn’t produce fruit as Jesus says in John 15:2. All still in the umbrella of faith.

@clasher3123 4 ай бұрын

Aisha reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Follow the right course, be devoted, and give glad tidings. Verily, none of you will enter Paradise by his deeds alone.” They said, “Not even you, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said, “Not even myself, unless Allah grants me His mercy. Know that the most beloved deed to Allah is done regularly, even if it is small.” Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 6464, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2818

@TheMuslimHybrid 3 ай бұрын

Just finished watching the entire debate. I’d like to say بارك الله فيك ونفع بك الأمة. Very concise and to-the-point opening statement. Appealing to the Bible and showing that some of the true messages of the prophets before are still prevalent throughout the Bible not only makes it easy to bridge to the Christian audience, but also validates your points. I’m planning to start a podcast to host Muslim thinkers and speakers on different topics, and I’d love to have you talk about your journey. I think it will be beneficial.

@dr.nasserk 3 ай бұрын

Sounds great, please let me know how we can connect inshaAllah

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

@@dr.nasserk What does that mean god is one? One what? I watched your debate! You appeal to the Bible pick what you believe go with Islam and reject what expose it? - intellectual integrity) Is the Qur’anic god a father? Aren’t you against this ?

@TheMuslimHybrid 3 ай бұрын

@@IshaqAamosAwrahamCopticI wouldn’t even dive into Jewish thinking and their religious corpus, the Hebrew language and its grammar, or even the ideas of progressive revelation and abrogation. But I’d ask you from an instinctual point of view: As a kid, before getting indoctrinated, what did your natural instinct tell you about God? How did you picture God? Even when you heard "God is one," did you ever follow up with "One in what?" or "What do you mean by One?" What you have here I’d say is the result of indoctrination. It's without a shred of doubt an unnatural conclusion without any form of outside influence.

@wesleywarhol7772 3 ай бұрын

@user-vb3ri5gh6r "God is ONE" is not the same as "God is Three in ONE" Hope this helps.

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

@@TheMuslimHybrid please do dip inside Jewish thinking! I wait! For your evidence I will bring ours the top scholars …even Jewish scholars…, Please bring it up!

@peachgumdrop8067 8 күн бұрын

This is amazing! I’m a revert and I was looking for a debate exactly like this! Both of you guys were calm and respectful, and the Christian scholar didn’t bring up fringe Islamic thoughts, and you were also fair to the Christian POV! I’ll definitely send this to my dad as food for thought😂

@kutsc3792 4 ай бұрын

1:18:10 blatantly lying. He does this all the time when his Bible is questioned he throws it under the bus by saying so does the quran

@Yesterdaywas17 3 ай бұрын

😂

@mohib_saeed 3 ай бұрын

Idk what he was talking abt here I just interpreted it as someone like Sheikh AlMinshawi switching between Qir’at when reciting to beautify the recitation.

@Yesterdaywas17 3 ай бұрын

@@mohib_saeed meaning doesn't change tho Only qira

@rizwanramzan5729 4 ай бұрын

Dr. Nassar is awesome....really amazing analysis with EVIDENCES and REFERENCES....

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Tawheed is actually very easy and simple until someone filled with ignorance, false beliefs and/or arrogance start using media to spread false ideas among humans which caused Muslims to reply and things get complicated. If you told anyone about Tawheed without being exposed to these stupid false ideas, it will be as simple as it can be. That is not the case for Trinity at all.

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

What is the spirit of Allah mean?

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

What is the spirit of Allah mean?

@samhangster 3 ай бұрын

@@ChukwuemekaJohnson ? The spirit of Allah is the spirit of Allah

@ghofranahmed7252 3 ай бұрын

@@ChukwuemekaJohnson a spirit that allah created, just like saying "prophet of allah" , simple right ?

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

@@ghofranahmed7252 prophets are human created by God.Is the Spirit of Allah an angel,jinn or human.

@ha.alamin 3 ай бұрын

Masha'Allah, you did an outstanding job, Dr Karimian. I was shocked to learn it was your first formal debate. I wish they'd moderated some of the questioners a little better, both Muslims and Christians, but the debate itself went very well IMO alhamdulillah.

@mohib_saeed 4 ай бұрын

ٱلسَّلَامُ عَلَيْكُمْ 1:54:34 One of the questions was a little disrespectful at the end regarding the “ransoming of Christians to take the abode of Hell.” I commend Sheikh Nasser’s reply for not answering without any knowledge on the topic. This question has been specifically answered by Imam An-Nawawi (Rahimahullah) in his Sharh Muslim and by Sheikh Al-Qaadi Iyaad (Rahimahullah) in Mirqaat al-Mafateeh. To wit, the Islamic position needs to be taken holistically. A hadith in Ibn Majah states that for every Muslim, there is both an abode in Paradise and an abode in the Hellfire. If the believer enters Paradise, the disbeliever in Hell will take his place, because he deserves that due to his disbelief. What is meant by the words “your ransom from the Fire” is that you were exposed to the risk of entering the Fire, and this is your ransom, because Allah, may He be exalted, decreed a number for it to fill it. Because the disbelievers will enter it because of their disbelief and sin, they will effectively become like ransoms for the Muslims. It should be noted that is not contradicted by the fact that the Christians and Jews take the sins of the Muslims. Rather, the Jews and Christians are sentenced to punishment for their disbelief, and their “ransom” is only likened to “salvation/sacrifice.” I hope this clears the air. Anything I said correct is from Allah, and anything I said incorrect is from me and the Shaytaan.

@baidamoji1150 4 ай бұрын

This is pathetic doctrine

@Sotmh21 4 ай бұрын

Of course you will justify this because you have to in order to believe it for yourself. A Muslim is peaceful until he gets the chance for violence

@ShoaibAhmedNZ 3 ай бұрын

I thought the Sheikh handled it quite gracefully. No one knows everything. The disrespectful Christian should be more worried because of his pagan beliefs of associating partners with the Almighty.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Green said that God repeated he is coming to save the world, yet Christianity never believe God came, but only one person of the God head. So, are we talking that God is one person and both the father and the holy spirit are out of God?

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

Why did Dr Greene say Jesus spoke Greek? Jesus wasn't sent to the Greeks.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

Jesus spoke Aramaic and biblical Hebrew not Greek the Rev. Is very confused

@ousmanesherif08 3 ай бұрын

His calmness is on another level again masha Allah

@hnbli 4 ай бұрын

Content is great Dr. Nasser but a slower presentation style is important, the information is dense and therefore needs to be relayed more slowly

@AKAtareq 4 ай бұрын

I share the same perspective. However, upon deeper reflection, it becomes clear that this is a significant opportunity for Muslims to share their message with both the attending audience and online viewers. This presentation is designed to be as long as necessary, allowing you to pause and rewind as needed to focus on what is most important to you.

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

The major teachings of the Prophets was to call the people to the worship of the one true God (Allah).

@ChristOverAllJeremy 3 ай бұрын

Have a conversation with Sam Shamoun. I just clipped his 2 hour livestream into 25 minutes, just on John 17:3. Watch that, then decide if you want to talk to him. We all are waiting.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Green always run away from questions by saying: I am not the one who brought this in!

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

Dr. Greene doesn't know Arabic at all. If you give me any of the two mushaf that Dr. Greene showed you, I can read each one.

@rayan3594 4 ай бұрын

Mashallah it was so great to witness ❤

@Coachmohi 4 ай бұрын

I can’t believe Rev. Green tried to make the claim that the bible is 100% preserved. This has been refuted by almost all new testament scholars. Its either he chose to ignore that fact or is delusional.

@Coachmohi 4 ай бұрын

He also makes the claim that modes and recitations of the Quran are “variants” 🤦🏻‍♂️ how is this even a debate?

@Penny-mb9mw 4 ай бұрын

Is the Qur'an perfectly preserved? You have missing Surahs.

@ktbffh7 3 ай бұрын

@@Penny-mb9mwthe Quran has not changed since the uthmanic manuscripts

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

It's very difficult to make sense of falsehood. The trinity is falsehood.

@haseebkhan6621 3 ай бұрын

Mashallah very well spoke by Shiekh Nasser.

@immortalityking5722 3 ай бұрын

This type of videos are the ones that must be popular. We must prioritize learning both the context and the mening of the verses to get us to the truth❤❤

@swafiirbulbul819 3 ай бұрын

From East Africa ... 🇹🇿 ... alhamdulillaah

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Fajr Zuhr Asar Maghrib Isha and Witr Namaz, Dua Qunoot ♥❤👌😊

@Unbiasedknowledge 3 ай бұрын

i think you did better than Rev. Green. More points came from your side and all questions were answers from Rev. Green and the audience unlike Green he did not address much of what you said and you had lots of valid points. Great job!

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

The Christian is confused about who God is.

@villabound5500 4 ай бұрын

Salam Brother. I attended your al maghrib class in Charlotte. MashAllah so thankful you represent Muslims so wonderfully. I still have the notes from your class. I would like to suggest that next time, the audience may benefit more if you spoke more steadily via presenting less divinity claims. That way, your points will sink their thoughts. They are very heavy thoughts and worthy ones , but the audience is forced to discard realizations when you move on because it can be overwhelming to ingest the points while also keeping up. JazakAllakhair.

@AKAtareq 4 ай бұрын

@123MMHS 3 ай бұрын

Dr. Karimian - I've consumed a great deal of information from the Internet from watching KZbin videos + reading on this subject of the Trinity and the divinity of Jesus. I've watched 100s of videos of individuals providing Dawah (e.g. Muhammad Hijab, Zakir Naik, Ahmed Deedat, Ali Dawah, Uthman Ibn Farooq from One Message Foundation, etc). This I have to say is quintessentially the most concise, clear, organized, and thorough explanation of indicating why the Trinity is incorrect. The most important thing in my view what you did was 1) Use information straight from the bible to make your claims; 2) You provide this in a very clear, organized Presentation that was easy to follow. May Allah bless you. I will continue to always come back to this video. I hope to meet you one day to thank you for all of your work.

@aadil7302 3 ай бұрын

Great job brother. Guys please respect each other in the comments.

@dannyguitarra6531 3 ай бұрын

This was a comment i made to someone who came between me and Jesus, as a revert muslim. As if Jesus did not belong to me to learn from. Originally, i had told the person to be more like Jesus while he couldn't fathom why i had said that. Seperating me from the messenger. Comment: In a hall there are 3 tables. Judaism (1), Christianity (2), Islam (3). Table 1 denies Jesus. The people in that table don't allow him to sit there, as it goes against what they believe. Table 2 allows all of the prophets from table 1 to sit at their table, and of course, Jesus. Table 3 allows all of table 1 and table 2 to sit at table 3, as their seats are reserved in going with the belief. Table 2 does not allow Prophet Muhammad (SWS) to sit there, nor does table 1. Table 1, and 3 believe in the monotheistic concept of God. Table 2 believes in Jesus or the son of man to being God; putting Jesus above all who sit there. All of the prophets in table 3 submit their will to God the Creator. All of them put God above them, and spoke saying that God was greater than all, and all things. Jesus spoke as one who sits in table 3. In that table, no prophet is greater than another, rather they all behave with the notion that God is the greatest, they are nothing without him, and they all pray to him. From what Jesus learned about table 1, do you think he'll choose to sit in table 2, when they behave the same in denying Muhammad? It will befit table 2 to be better than the people in table 1. Surely Jesus sits in table 3. Where we all worship, he who created the hall. So, bear witness that we Muslims do hold Jesus in high regard. We sit in a huge table. A table where all the prophets sit, and all worship 1 God. The one who appointed them all. In this table, all of the prophets would rejoice in knowing that those who seeked their Lords pleasures followed one prophet more than the other (with no competition). There is no difference because in this table, the more that the messengers lead the people to God (collectively), the more they fulfill their cause, and their cause is Gods cause. They are with God. For they seek not their own will, but the will of God. If you would be a better Muslim than Muslims, then Glory be to God for this. I would welcome you so. I have seen this behavior in Muslims, and yet to see this behavior in those who say they are Christians. So tilt your ways. That I may pat your back with good intent. And perhaps one day you will pat mine, in accepting that I accept the examples of Jesus. He would be pleased with us, and more so, God would be. His examples are up for grabs after all, so make haste, that you'd be better than I 🤲🏼. Be wise, brothers and sisters. It shall benefit us all.

@snakejuce 3 ай бұрын

Lovely. The QnA was aweseome too.

@MuddassirJamalRazSalafi1996 3 ай бұрын

First public debate of Shaikh Nasser Masha ALLAH, Shaikh Your style of Debating is like that of Sheikh Dr. Ali Ataie [may Allah bless him and grant him peace] which leaves an impression on the audience. I Am writing a book on the Divinity of Jesus. I will upload this debate also on my channel Partly.

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

Yes i am writing a pamphlet on Muhammad prophethood in my channel! Since you have authority to write about Jesus Christ, we have the same scale of authority to write about Muhammad prophethood! Fair…

@adamaourara2942 4 ай бұрын

In the quran, the Trinity is not confused with Mary, it addresses those that elevate Mary as a gidess which some do. Especially the ancient Arabian practice of collydrianism that worshipped Mary.

@rashidaquil5284 3 ай бұрын

You miss understood the verse... nice try

@maz7958 3 ай бұрын

Nice try , to many contradictions in the quran

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Whenever you go to the Masjid please put some coins in the Zakat Box 📦 Allah loves Zakat Alhamdulila 📦❤

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

The Christian guy is a polytheist. He prays to multiple 'gods.

@Abd-al-Qadr 3 ай бұрын

1:25:40 basically hes asking "How can Allah be Merciful if there is no one to be Merciful to?" Very simple answer. All of the sifat of Allah, the attributes, are innately within Him from eternity-past. He eternally-possesses the attributes of Mercy, Justice, Knowledge, Will.... Just because one or more of the attributes is not eternally in action, does not mean Allah does not possess the attribute(s). In order for Allah to create the universe...He must first already possess the ability to create. Being a Creator means you have the ability to create. It doesnt mean you are eternally creating things. And to Allah belongs the best of examples. Edit: 1:27:19 Wallahi brotha.... You nailed the coffin shut on this "argument" way better than I ever could. You just flipped the script on him

@aiya5777 3 ай бұрын

His Logic is basically a person who's known as a merciful person will stop being a merciful person when he loses his consciousness, like, when he's sleeping or something that's why Al-Kursi iS relevant, Allah, the All Merciful Ain't sleeping

@ASH-dj8mv 3 ай бұрын

Bro your QnA section was op man.

@jcs184 3 ай бұрын

You have a skill for presenting things very well and organized.

@eduardoalves1642 4 ай бұрын

Amazing debate!

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

See QURAN 2 : 136 We Muslims should only believe in the original Torah and Injeel that was revealed to PROPHET JESUS pbuh and PROPHET Musa Alaihi Salam.. READ QURAN EVERYDAY AND NEVER IGNORE YOUR FIVE DAILY Namaz, Witr Namaz, Dua Qunoot ♥ Establish regular Namaz and Pay ZAKAT..

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

what's the original torah and injeel tell us

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@lalhawli 3 ай бұрын

Thank God for Islam 🤍

@a.ld.b.9204 3 ай бұрын

Muslim men should not be clapping 👏.

@MrEast900 3 ай бұрын

The Muslim speaker is making things too technical. He responded to the Hafs and Warsh Quran argument with technical jargon like ‘dagger alif’ and ‘ahruf’ which would completely escape the Christian audience. I think he needs to do audience analysis much better and simplify things much more. He made this technical approach too many times during the debate and it will not persuade a Christian who hasn’t already done significant research on Islam. One way he could’ve explained the warsh and hafs difference is to say the way the reverend called him Nasser with an Australian accent is different from how it would be uttered in Indonesia

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Jesus pbuh did not write the fabricated Bible we have today.. Jesus pbuh never celebrated Christmas at all.. Jesus pbuh never claimed divinity at all....

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

Muhammad never wrote the Quran Jesus was baptized in the name of The Father The Son and The Holy Spirit go baptize yourself

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

Jesus said "I and the father are one"

@smk1189 3 ай бұрын

Jesus and Paul did NOT believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. The passages in (Mark 13:32 and 1 Corinthians 15:28) show that the Son and the Holy Spirit are NOT co-equal to the Father.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@iampakistani4092 3 ай бұрын

No doubt there is no god But Allah And Mohammad SAW and Jesus Christ are his messengers

@somesumm2501 3 ай бұрын

Reverend Green says that his problem with Islam is that it is just coming from one man, and the Biblical message as understood by Christians like him is coming from many. This is a fallacious argument. Christians generally seem have doctrines that they believe in already (the Trinity, Pauline claims about faith justifying one, faith in Jesus's death being sufficient etc.) and they back-project that onto the Bible. That is to say, they do not follow evidence, they have a conclusion already, and they impose that onto the Bible. It seems to be a very emotion driven faith. This is from the question on "why don't you believe in Islam - is it due to logical contradictions or simply because it doesn't agree with Christianity?" I think if Christians adopt a more open-minded framework where they question their pre-conceived conclusions, they might not be able to win a debate, but they would learn more.

@somesumm2501 3 ай бұрын

I think Christian justification of their current beliefs is *spin*, and when they argue with you, it is basically *gas-lighting*.

@Abd-al-Qadr 3 ай бұрын

Wallahil Adheem this was just a training session.

@Abd-al-Qadr 3 ай бұрын

Not even sparring. Simply working the bag. 🥊🥊🥊

@Abd-al-Qadr 3 ай бұрын

Not even sparring. Just working the bag

@Truthseeker-o9d 3 ай бұрын

Islam always wins Allahu Akbar

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Christians accuses the Christ of saying rubbish by saying to the Jew that if he followed the commands he will live while Christ must have known that nobody will ever do that perfectly, so the commandments are a curse and must be lifted!

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

Hold done speak about isa the arab Muslim quraishi contrefait of Quran Invented 700 years later out of your prophet imagination and whimp! Isa is for you Muslim 2 men’s opposite to each other! Jesus Christ historical is the real!

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Jesus pbuh prayed like a Muslim See Matthew 26 : 39

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

to HIS FATHER

@nbk2134 3 ай бұрын

@@valmadfMetaphorical father

@aiya5777 3 ай бұрын

@@valmadf you mean, to Himself? jesus and the father are One, remember?😂😂😂

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

@@aiya5777 1 in essence distinct in person ☝️🥰 get the trinity right

@valmadf 3 ай бұрын

@@nbk2134 is allah a metaphorical father ? if so say allah is my metaphorical father I love my father allah

@smk1189 3 ай бұрын

Jesus and Paul did NOT believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. The passages in (Mark 13:32 and 1 Corinthians 15:28) show that the Son and the Holy Spirit are NOT co-equal to the Father.

@hameedkatoor7469 3 ай бұрын

Masha Allah good We need more daiee

@hameedkatoor7469 3 ай бұрын

Thanks

@sondrameyer2816 3 ай бұрын

Rev. Green's response to the question referencing Ezekiel 18 missed the mark from the Christian perspective. I do believe from the Christian perspective Adam is the human father of man. Adam committed the Original or first sin which was according to Christian theology passed along to all his descendants. Man is born from sin in sin. A corrupted understanding of the Jewish theology as it clearly states the son can not inherit the sins of the father and vice versa.

@Bullpup2 3 ай бұрын

As-Salamu Alaikum Sidi Karimian, are you in anyway related to the deceased Saeed Karimian?

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

When Jesus said he is the God are one, so, how would the trinity would justify that a god person is the same as the god head of three persons? And would we now say that the nature of God is a mixed nature of God and Man? Isn't it a circular definition? Trinity by itself is really just a mess.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

The shahada is: لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله The testimony of faith in a worshipped God (إله) is not complete until a messenger is specified, because worshipping God means following his commands and wills, and without specifying a messenger to tell us these commands and wills will make this testimony of faith completely useless. Green's ignorance of Arabic is really astonishing!

@ChukwuemekaJohnson 3 ай бұрын

There is no where in the Torah that a prophet is mentioned in the shamah

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

The Quran includes the whole collection of recitations, and these whole collection of readings are preserved as one message with several recitations. Is that hard to understand? If so, then, let's say that the UN have a decision and they wrote it in several languages, so are you going to say that these are different decisions?

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Green sometimes says the Quran is the written book and sometimes it is the spoken recitation. The Quran is both the written book and all the spoken recitations proved to be coming from the prophet himself. And they match very well. The written book is not meant to read from but it is an additional way to preserve the Quran with all its recitations together, beside that the written book itself have its own miracles other than the miracles in the spoken recitations, as are all revelations from the Almighty Creator SWT.

@elijah.reynolds Ай бұрын

Starting your argument by first attacking the other side is a major fail. The reverend has dedicated years of his life dissecting Islam, misrepresenting Islam as a coping mechanism. Meanwhile, we really don’t think about Christianity ever.

@alib7489 3 ай бұрын

You're a convert, Sheikh! Mashaa Allah. Just out of curiosity, what is your background before Islam?

@dr.nasserk 3 ай бұрын

@@alib7489 My mother is Christian and my father was Shia.

@alib7489 3 ай бұрын

@dr.nasserk Alhamdulillah. I thank Allah for guiding you. Would love to hear the journey in a podcast, perhaps with all the details.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Injeel being a Greek word does not mean it was not a word in Hebrew or Aramaic language. According to our lexicons, Injeel is a disputed regarding its origins, but I couldn't find any one which said it was a Greek word!

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

Eenjel being Greek Aren’t you you who claim the Quran is pure Arabic book? What are Greek words doing inside that book tho?

@wesleywarhol7772 3 ай бұрын

@@IshaqAamosAwrahamCopticwhat language was the Enjil written in?

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

@@wesleywarhol7772 what enjill are you talking about? Enjiil is a Greek word! Which one,? And what is Greek word doing in ( PURE )Arabic Quran?

@wesleywarhol7772 3 ай бұрын

@@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic I'm asking you what language the Enjil is written in since you know everything about it

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

@@wesleywarhol7772 i’m asking you which eenjil , the one that disappeared? L

@FirstCommandment 3 ай бұрын

Professor Bart Erhman, one of the world’s best New Testament scholars, teaches a good course on this, and has written a book, on just this subject, “How Jesus Became God.” BY THE END OF THE CENTURY, some Christians were beginning to think of Jesus as a God equal, or nearly equal, to God the Father. Earlier on, Jesus was thought of as the adopted Son of God, and the Gospel of Mark backs up that view. It was only by the end of the century that many Christians were beginning to believe in Jesus as a fully divine, pre-existing being. And it took a few more centuries still for the Doctrine of the Trinity… Jesus as fully God equal to God the Father… for orthodoxy to completely embrace that doctrine. Before the end of the first century, most Christians were “Ebionite” Christians, who essentially were like today’s Messianic Jews. It is my belief that these ideas accumulated more and more after Jesus’ death. There is Biblical evidence to suggest that Jesus never taught he was God, although some passages in John (which is where the “I am” comes from) suggest he did think he was God. But in the Synoptics… Jesus, when he teaches how to pray, never ever says, “Pray to me.” Never. It is “Our Father” who art in Heaven, not merely “my Father.” All the peacemakers, he claims, “will be called the sons of god.” Jesus asks, “Why do you call me good? Only one is good, that is, God.” That is a troubling passage that is in all three Synoptics: Mark, Matthew, Luke. He says the time of the Second Coming “is known to the Father but not the Son.” And so on Theologian Walter Farrell in his book 'Companion To The Summa vol. 1 chapter 7' writes: The Trinity is a mystery; no doubt about it. Unless we had been told of its existence, we would never have suspected such a thing. Moreover, now that we know that there is a Trinity, we cannot understand it. The man who attempts to unravel the mystery is in the position of a near-sighted man straining his eyes from the Eastern Shore of Maryland for a glimpse of Spain. We cannot probe the depths of the ocean of divinity with the foot-rule of the human intellect.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@riadhvet 3 ай бұрын

"UNDIVIDED nature of god shared by THREE related DISTINCT persons". I guess we have to create a trinitology dictionary, where rational fallacies meet subjective interpretation of conventional concepts, according to ones whims and desires.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

1+1+1=3 but for trinitarians 1+1+1=1? Say what!!!

@Light17784 3 ай бұрын

Allah is unlike anything in his creation - how can one understand the nature or oneness/ahad of allah seeing the descriptions of allah ones gets it from creation? In conclusion - the understanding of one comes from creation - the oneness of allah cannot truly be understood or even taught or even be defended by the most knowledgeable muslims. It's simply Imposible.

@Hasan.ibn.Ali. 3 ай бұрын

. Can you please debate Sam Shamoun livestream ? It would be great to watch.

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@akramrashid642 4 ай бұрын

Great work Masha-Allah. Excellent job disproving trinitarian blasphemies and heresies.

@tashifjilani1732 3 ай бұрын

Jazakallah khair shaykh Nasser love from dubai😊❤

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Christians believe that the nature of the word is the same nature of the God! Wouldn't that make God also a word spoken by someone else?

@sondrameyer2816 3 ай бұрын

Rev. Green is still trying to chip away at Islam after so many years. In response to the question posed about the Shahadah, I have always believed that the part that mentions Mohammad (PBUH) the PROPHET of G-d is so humans would not make the mistake of elevating, by association, his equality with G-d, the way Christians did with Jesus. (AS). It's reiterating the point so as to make it crystal clear he is only a man chosen by G-d.

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Sultan Mehmet did a brilliant job of conquering Istanbul in 1453.😊

@wesleywarhol7772 3 ай бұрын

ALL THE ANGRY CHRISTIANS IN THE COMMENTS 😂😂😂😂😂 I'd be hurt too if my religion was dying because it wasnt starting to make sense to people anymore now that the internet has opened up more of the masses to find its many flaws.

@Jaym-y2f 3 ай бұрын

Delusional. True Christian’s would never convert

@thecoin5394 3 ай бұрын

Debate me 😅

@wesleywarhol7772 3 ай бұрын

@@thecoin5394 ok

@godisonegodhaswon 2 ай бұрын

@@thecoin5394 1. Linguistically Allah Elahi Eloah Alaha are all linguistic cognates for the one God not "gods" ilah is generic God in Arabic Allah is The One God in Arabic eloh is generic God in Hebrew Elohim is plural so can be used for Gods Eloah or Eloheinu is The One God in Hebrew Hebrew prayers still use Eloheinu e.g. Baruch ata Adonai Eloheinu 2. Aramaic Hebrew Amharic and Arabic are all within the same family Semitic modernly or Afro-Asiatic 3. Factually Prophets such as Joshua Isaiah Elijah all praise YHWH ( btw YaHuWa in Arabic means "Oh He Is" or "Oh He Is the only one who ever was , is , and will ever be." HU and HUWA are referring to the Most High) 4. but what about all the -el prophets names in the Bible? Such as Ezekiel Daniel Ishmael these names praise Eloah or Alaha/Ilahi or Allah s.w.t. 5. Michael Gabriel also the Angels of heaven have -el names only 6. There are at least 72 names of God in Judaism and at least 99 in Islam many are identical Ar Rahman ArRachaman El Kodesh Al Quddus Ahad Echad Eloheinu Allah 7. Prophet Muhammad's saws name is in the Bible in Hebrew pronounced as Mukhammad(im)

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Green, you don't seem to understand attributes vs parts/pieces! If I told you an apple is green, did I split the apple into pieces?

@bakarudhin8225 3 ай бұрын

What a poor opening statement of samuel green,its more like Islamophobic arguments than scholarship

@ShoaibAhmedNZ 3 ай бұрын

I suppose the goal isn't really debating Rev Green. He's been caught out a few times making stuff up in various muslim streams. More to reach the people that may not have heard the message before. Articulated well brother Nasser, especially the Q&A at the end.

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

From river to the sea Palestine 🇵🇸 will be free 🇵🇸. 🇵🇸

@codingblues3181 4 ай бұрын

Gospel of John only makes these 'I am' claims no other earlier Gospel does, why? If Jesus was walking around making these claims why no other Gosple thought it was important to mention them.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

In Islam, God is a rab, which is a much more precise term that includes all the attributes of a father beside the humanly begetting part, which was assumed and misused by pagans led Christians to create their false pagan religion of Christianity, and that why this term is not used in the Quran. This is part of the mutable shariah, not the basic tenants of faith, as both Father and Rab can be used for God, but the term Father was corrupted by Christians, so it is not used anymore.

@AllaahuAkbarr 3 ай бұрын

Shaik Ahmed DEEDAT is absolutely amazing orator Allahu Akbar Allah is the greatest 😊😊😊😊

@kakabawani4212 3 ай бұрын

i doubt he will Drink Zam Zam Water he would be affraid after drinking ZamZam He will Revert .

@carinaalexandrasimoes89 3 ай бұрын

😂

@hatooma1000 3 ай бұрын

Very nice discussion. But with all respect I believe the audience at the end should be asking questions not replying to the speakers. Perhaps it would be better if the other speaker who is probably more knowledgeable than the audience be the one replying.

@IshaqAamosAwrahamCoptic 3 ай бұрын

It is true that open the heart not cunnining! And fraud! Like he did! We are following!

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Christians missionaries torture us with that we need to understand the Bible holistically to deduct trinity after failing to present clear verses to support trinity, yet, even when we do that, we find that all their arguments for the trinity is actually not coming from holistic understanding of the Bible!

@rizwanramzan5729 4 ай бұрын

I finished reading the Gospel of Barnabas...which was written pre-Paul and before the 4 Cannon Gospels(selected by Greek/Roman church fathers).. The Gospel of Barnabas is amazing because....i see at least a dozen of events that are written in the Gospels(Mark, Mathew, Luke & John)... The 4 Gospels were written(70-110 AD) after the Gospel of Barnabas. The Gospel of Barnabas is conveniently rejected because it exposes the falsehood of Judaism and Pauline Christianity.

@Psalm_23_ 3 ай бұрын

No m*ron, the Gospel of Barnabas was written between 13th and 15th century 😂😂😂😂 known by most Muslim scholars and non Muslim scholars as a forgery. 😂😂😂 written pre- Paul and it beautiful 😂😂😂😂

@riadhvet 3 ай бұрын

no !brother the Gospel of barnabas is dated back to the sixteenth century, with two copies in italian and one in spanish.Absolutely it does portray the true jesus ministry .The christians rejects it based on dating but unfortunately using a double standards rejecting so many much older hypocrypha predating the four gsopels

@rizwanramzan5729 3 ай бұрын

@@riadhvet Yes, in 2000ish...A 4th century Aramaic copy of Gospel of Barnabas was found in Turkey...2000ish. Catholic Vatican church bought it for $50 million...and continue to hide it from the eyes of the scholars....

@Psalm_23_ 3 ай бұрын

@rizwanramzan5729 Catholic Church bought this "Gospel" and hid it but you know how much they bought for and when it was bought. You just sound dumber everytime you make a comment.

@Psalm_23_ 3 ай бұрын

@@riadhvet Incorrect even muslims scholars reject it as a forgery. Unless you believe Muhammad to be the Messiah as this forgery states.

@AwaisAhmedPodcast 3 ай бұрын

cant believe he quoted john of damascus 😂

@james-yf9wm 3 ай бұрын

If God is supernatural then he can manifest in human form the doctrine of the Trinity make more sense than tawhid.

@zaydquarless1046 3 ай бұрын

James, God is "supernatural" therefore he cannot manifest in human form. He cannot limit himself and his attributes. For example, God is All-knowing, he cannot become ignorant. God is Eternal, he cannot die. God is Just. He cannot become unjust. He will not enter his creation and become subjective to His Laws which govern the universe. The reason why the Trinity DOES NOT make sense is because you cannot even find it in the Bible. However, you can find tawhid in the Bible and Quran. I challenge you. Show me one verse in the Bible that says God is 3-in-1. Show me a verse that says 3 persons equal 1 God. Show me one verse that says Jesus, The father and the holy Spirit are co-equal? You have zero evidence for Trinity. However, the oneness of God is found all over the Bible. The Bible literally says "God is 1" Tawhid is in the Bible, not a Trinity.

@james-yf9wm 3 ай бұрын

@@zaydquarless1046 In Mathew 28:19 Jesus commanded his disciples to baptize everyone in the name of the father, the son and the holy spirit. The bible clearly explains God the Father is the creator and Jesus is the eternal word of God through him he created everything and the holy spirit is the divine power of God...... This clearly proves they are coeternal, coequal and coexistent...for example soul, body and spirit. Luke 1:35 NIV “The angel answered, "The Holy Spirit will come on you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. So the Holy One to be born will be called the Son of God.” Quran 4:171 O people of the Book, be not excessive in your Faith, and do not say about Allah anything but the truth.The MasīH ‘Īsā, the son of Maryam, is only a Messenger of Allah, and His Word that He had delivered to Maryam, and a spirit from Him. The bible and the Quran both of them agree that Jesus was born of the holy spirit so why is Jesus not eternal?......If Jesus was born of the holy spirit then why is he not eternal?.

@zaydquarless1046 3 ай бұрын

@@james-yf9wm Matthew 28:19 has been known by many Christian scholars as an interpolation. Have you noticed, every disciple who continued to baptize in the Bible, only baptized in the name of Jesus. If this was a real command of Jesus, they would have obeyed. They did not, and there are many verses that have been proven as interpolation and not found in the oldest Greek manuscripts. For example, 1 John 5:7 has been removed from the Bible in all new Bibles including the NIV, ESV, and others. This is another example of why they tried to add it in the Bible because it is not there. Check King James 1 John 5: 7. Then check NIV 1 John 5:7. You will see 2 completely different verses, one that says trinity and the other does not. If you read the footnotes in the NIV, it will tell you that the trinity verse is not found in the oldest manuscripts. These are Christian scholars saying this, not Muslims. Look at my original question to you. Even the verse you mentioned, all 3 are mentioned but never called 1 God, never called equal, etc. I will let you answer this before going into your Quran claim. However you are misinterpreting the Quran through a Christian lens. Muslims unanimously understand that Jesus is creation and God is Creator. The Quran teaches that everyone and everything is created, and Allah is uncreated and eternal.

@james-yf9wm 3 ай бұрын

@@zaydquarless1046 You didn't answer my question.....in Quran 4:171 Jesus is the word of Allah and a spirit from Allah.....so if Jesus was born of the holy spirit then why is he not eternal?

@zaydquarless1046 3 ай бұрын

@@james-yf9wm okay, thanks. A better translation is a word "from" Allah. The word is displayed throughout the Quran and it is "be." He was created in the womb of a virgin and Allah simply said "be" and it is. If Allah decrees something, he simply says "be" and it is. That is how easy it is for Allah to create and the "word" from Allah concerning Jesus was "be." You are misunderstanding "word" and "spirit." The spirit is referring to the soul of Jesus being put into the womb of Mary from the word "be." Think about it, Muslims who study and understand the Arabic know that Jesus is created by Allah and he is similar to Adam, Allah says "be" and it becomes.

@A5kY0urs3lf1st 3 ай бұрын

Speak really fast. Affirm your own points. Just spout your own opinion without any evidences. Oh and only God knows the reason. Yep... I'm listening to the defense of islam 😅😅😅😅😅. There is no way to misidentify a Muslim debating 😅😅😅😅

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Christians actually don't have one God, but one God nature, exactly like pagans, the supernatural divine nature which is shared between all their Gods! Tawheed is about having one God with one nature which is never shared with anything else than this God.

@Penny-mb9mw 4 ай бұрын

And your god has a physical form from the beginning of time. How can god have form? This is pagan

@AmerAlsabbagh 3 ай бұрын

@@Penny-mb9mw Are you a bot? Every one knows that Islam denies the form to Allah SWT, so what are you talking about? If you think his hands, legs, face, ... are signs of having a form, then you actually don't understand the basic tenets of Islamic faith. Look, the rule is that, nothing is like into Allah (SWT), so, if you think his hands have form like that our hands have form, then you are wrong. His hands are how befit his majesty, and we say nothing more, because there is nothing similar to him to allow us to understand his essence.

@smk1189 3 ай бұрын

Jesus and Paul did NOT believe in the doctrine of the Trinity. The passages in (Mark 13:32 and 1 Corinthians 15:28) show that the Son and the Holy Spirit are NOT co-equal to the Father.

@AmerAlsabbagh 4 ай бұрын

Green is talking about learning from all the prophets as a plus when compared to learning from one message/prophet, like if he believes that a single message from his God can't be trusted, so, does he think his God can't express his message well from the first time? He seems to be like a conscienceless AI LLM learning statistically from masses of data! No wonder the hallucination he is emitting!