Triple-T Thursday #13 - Testing the Ribbon Burner

In this Triple-T Thursday (Tools, Tips and Talk) we'll test my new ribbon burner and do some more work on the forge.
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[@TyrellKnifeworks]

What do you think of the ribbon burner? Any suggestions on tweaking it a bit?

[@andrewneilson227]

ooooooh fancy!

[@eetukuru787]

Looks really good! Really excited to see the finished forge!

[@DBCraftWorld]

Looks promising :)! Maybe try to change angle of the input of the gas to 45 degree. Also, you can try to replace one of the pipe between gas and the burner to bigger one. It will create a little back pressure.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

The gas mixing issue is resolved. I may try the pipe replacement but no more tweaks until it’s on the forge. Just the enclosed space will help a lot.

[@DBCraftWorld]

Oh, one think Denis: have you calculated the forge volume for this burner? while watching this episode, I remembered why I reject idea of making air forced burner: my forge whistled

[@HeavyForge]

I love waking up and having something to watch with my morning coffee! Burner looks good to me! The beauty of a ribbon burner is its a gentle, even flame. Not to mention much more quiet. I can’t wait to see it all together. You’re never gonna look a Venturi burners the same.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks Spencer! It throws me off not seeing or hearing it “roar”. 😜

[@dapeters19751]

That's going to be awesome when it's done man. Great video

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

It works well!

[@ClenioBuilder]

Thanks for sharing.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You bet! Thanks for watching!

[@sudo_nym]

Those changes - the mig tip and mixer - seemed to make quite the difference. Looking forward to seeing the build!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Yes definitely. Someone (I forget who) commented on the last video that the mig tip might be an issue and they were right. I’m not sure I needed the baffle though. But it certainly didn’t hurt. Thanks for checking it out!

[@dankissinger1969]

Pretty awesome!!!! Right on

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for watching!

[@danwerkman]

Yay.....it's Thursday... My friend messaged me this morning to remind me it's TTT Thursday.... Think you have a following 😂.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Ha, that’s amazing! Thanks for your support, Dan!

[@neogator26]

Great build! I'm looking to set up a forge and propane will be much easier to manage for my current situation. I wondered about forced air as it would add oxygen to the mixture and burn hotter. My brother has a little foundry he built so has some experience building burners but not this style. I may start with an off the shelf set up and modify as I learn more.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

A forced air is no different than a venturi when it comes to adding oxygen. It's the same concept, just that the air is introduced with a fan instead of venturi flow. The forced air takes WAY less gas and mixes better. Thanks for watching.

[@neogator26]

@@TyrellKnifeworks When I hear "venturi" I always think carburetors which require that low pressure area to draw in the fuel which is why they can't be boosted. But as the propane is essentially fuel injection I can force all the air stoichiometry will allow. lol

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@neogator26 yeah, I can see the similarity.

[@nevermore1045]

Nice! This was definitely helpful. Lookong forward to the next build portion. Im still operating off of a hells forge single venturi. Works ok but could be better. Was going to build a new forge using one of the t-rex burners or the ribbon burner. My main concern was more so about the noise itself since I'm just operating out of a garage in suburbia.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

The ribbon burners are actually quieter than Venturi burners. The blower is quieter than the “roar” of the Venturi style. They don’t sound like a Jet. 👍. Thanks for watching!

[@nevermore1045]

@@TyrellKnifeworks appreciate the feedback and content you create thanks!

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thanks for being here to watch it! 😉

[@benlallier1721]

Great burner build. I just finished my burner this week and I am ready to fire it up. Your video showed you testing the burner at .5 psi. What psi setting do you use at startup? Thanks

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

For forge welding and when starting it up I run it at around 2-3 psi. For normal operation it's around 1 or maybe 2 psi depending on what I'm doing. Thanks for checking it out, Ben!

[@lukegraham1945]

Looks like it's going to be a great burner! I've also been thinking about making a new forge, do you have any books or resource recommendations on gas forges/ burner design?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’d say watch a bunch of KZbin videos on it. If you’re considering a new forge, I would highly recommend going forced air and not a Venturi.

[@lukegraham1945]

@@TyrellKnifeworks Ok thanks!

[@Aleeknives]

So cool Denis! This pretty much a dead ringer for what I plan to build soon! Great work and thank you for sharing the tweaks that made it run good. Did I hear you say that you removed the mig tip completely? Or just added a larger one?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Yeah I removed the mig tip completely. There’s a 3/16 hole for the gas to come out. Thanks for checking it out!

[@Labrador_Forge]

Starting my ribbon burner build next week, new forge and all. I look forward to seeing your progress. Which blower are you running?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

I’m using a Dayton blower. The links to all the parts are in the video description. 👍

[@Labrador_Forge]

Thank you

[@christopherconkright1317]

How do you know what size ribbon burner. I have a 17x8 inch chamber will a 6x3 in ribbon burner work or do I need a 8x3 or 6x4 how do you know or figure it out.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

The mistake I made was not using a long enough burner. Won’t worry about width, it’s about the length. I would go you’re forge length -8”, that gives you 4” from each opening to the burner do you have no cold spots at each end.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

For yours, I would use a 2x10”.

[@christopherconkright1317]

Hi I am building a forge. I bought a regular that is separate from the hose but very adjustable. Does anyone know if I need a full flow POL Excess Flow POL or? This regulator is very adjustable and has a nice gauge so want to use it but do it right

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

You need at least a 30 psi regulator. Most that you buy at hardware stores are 3 psi. Make sure it’s a high pressure one.

[@christopherconkright1317]

@@TyrellKnifeworks it is it goes 0-30 but it doesn’t have the tank connection or POL and there are a few on Is full flow no safety I think then excess flow and so on

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

@@christopherconkright1317 I’m not sure what that means. Mine just says 0-30 and it connects directly to the tank.

[@anddysworkshop466]

Good job on the burner! Also if you have the time and interest you could try to do a Brass - Steel San mai, i have seen someone attempt it on Facebook and it looked really good :)

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Maybe sone day I’ll try the brass. I’ve got quite a few projects lined up right now. I’ll do a new project review in the next Triple-T. 😜

[@christopherconkright1317]

I keep trying to find someone plumbing the burner. How to do the piping. How to put the air on etc etc. building the ribbon burner sure but not how to hook it up.

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

There are a bunch of videos that go into detail. You just pipe the air from the blower then inject the gas into that with a 3/16 orifice. Email me if you have questions.

[@Yousoundvaxxed]

Hey Dennis, where did you get the pipes from?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Do you mean what I used for the holes? They are just drinking straws. The steel pipe is just black pipe from the hardware store. Thanks for watching!

[@Yousoundvaxxed]

@@TyrellKnifeworks yes I meant the black pipe, thanks Dennis! Looking to build the same type of forge body currently

[@anthonystrunk5360]

I posted a pic of my ribbon burner forge on Instagram yesterday.. anthony.strunk Same 6 inch burner as mine.. looks almost identical..lol.. I'm gunna try to put a larger blower on it and see if it produces forge welding heat better.. it is much better for regular forging and uses about a quarter of the propane...yours looks awesome! Can't wait to see the finished forge..

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Yup almost the same. Mine was built with 3” square tube and its 8”. I heard one key is to have enough holes to equal the area of a cross section of your piping. If you have to many holes you need a much stronger blower.

[@anthonystrunk5360]

@@TyrellKnifeworks mine is 6 inches and I built it with 3 inch square tubing.. I think i have 21 holes but id have to count..lol.. yours looks really good.i bought the blower from Amazon I think it has a 2 1/2 inch outlet.. no I just counted it just has 15 holes and I used off brand crayons

[@johnli6736]

can you try waste oil to power the burner

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

Thus burner is not set for oil, gas only. Thanks for watching

[@morgenstern3958]

Когда ещё будет видео с ковкой ламината с медью и никелем?

[@morgenstern3958]

И?

[@TyrellKnifeworks]

У меня будет куча других проектов, прежде чем я попробую это снова. На горизонте появятся довольно крутые и подробные сборки! Спасибо за просмотр.

[@ZackofAllTrades87]

Woah

[@morgenstern3958]

@@ZackofAllTrades87 вах