** Before you Buy: Gazelle Tent** - 1 year review

[@idrissamorehouse5776]

I like these “chill dad” style videos -they’re almost boring but really its just an honest and relaxing style - and because its just a dad flowing its just super honest and thorough -big up to the new era of “chill dad” style !!

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad you like them! Thanks for watching.

[@bluecruiser2019]

So I know this video is a bit old, but we just bought the T4 Overlander in August 2021. It literally showed up the night before a two week trip in Arizona (north rim Grand Canyon) and Utah. Literally the first night we set it up on the north rim of the Grand Canyon it was broken. A Grommet was popped loose and the top would not pop up. We did a field repair to get us through the rest of the trip. First of all, must say we love this tent and is absolutely amazing. We contacted them when we got home and said we could fix it ourselves properly if we could get the right parts. They had me take a knife to it and destroy it. Two days later we had a brand new tent! Awesome company and awesome tent!!🤘

[@MWDAdventures]

Definitely a frustrating start to a trip, but I am glad to hear the company took care of you. We love our Gazelle tent and canopy room.

[@jeffweston9743]

Something similar after talking with customer service when I first set it up they decided it had a sewing issue and had me field destroy it and I'm waiting for my new one...great customer service.

[@georgecook1374]

nice honest review. with no fluff or someone acting overly excited or disappointed. thnx.

[@tinabeane]

I've seen a few reviews on this tent, but awesome to hear your feedback after good use. That is so cool they listen to their customers and have made those changes.

[@wadja62]

Have had my T4 for over a year and haven't had any of the problems you described. Well I did bend a couple of stakes, but I live in Arizona and where I camp can have some hard ground, and I probably don't camp as much as you do. I'm 77 yrs old so the easy set up is great for me. Instead of the 90sec it takes me about 2-3 min. I highly recommend the Gezelle T4 tent...

[@eto2352]

Really good no nonsense, honest review. Thank you!

[@rapmeister1000]

Awesome review. Very thorough. I just ordered one of these after reading multiple reviews, and I found yours to be the best of the all. One complaint about the floor I read in a few bad reviews, was that bugs get in at the corners where the poles go though. You video showed the exact solution I thought they were overlooking. I also ordered a footprint to go with the tent. because I've always used one to prevent the micro tears you experienced. The micro tears in the mesh you showed, I've seen on every tent I've ever owned that had it. It appears to just be the nature of that fine, nylon mesh when you use it to store things. Overall, looks like I'll be happy with this, especially with the quick set up/take down due to my spinal injuries.

[@raisingcane225]

Excellent review. I just bought the T4 Overland based in large part on your review - thanks!

[@socksandtea]

This is the first, honest review I have seen of this tent. Thank you very much.

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@9thGenerationCajun]

Thanks man this is the first review I've seen. Your honest assessment earned my sub.

[@515aleon]

This is an excellent and complete review. All in all, I think you have terrific reviews. So much info and you know how to deliver your info.

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@mdpumphrey3159]

Thanks for the input, I was thinking of getting a tent but the rain has been on the for front of my mind, this has helped out.... Thanks

[@seekingjoynow1722]

Just ordered the 3 person tent. I'm sure the quality is the same. Thanks for such a thorough review.

[@flyersfan4558]

Thanks for the honest review. Much appreciated. The cons outdistanced the pros for me. I’m going to go with a NorthFace Wawona 6. I will however, buy those 10” stakes. Hail, hail! Go Blue!

[@bjaminf113]

How'd the Wawona 6 tent turn out?

[@schmoab]

Seems like they addressed his concerns in the Overland editions. I just wish they’d add a proper opening door on at least one side.

[@thomaslewis1268]

Good review, even though it's a year old. I've had an alpine green T4 for a year, and use it in extremely tough conditions; rain, snow, and wind. I mainly wanted to add some info about its wind resistance, since I didn't see any comments about its limitations. The "tent itself" can withstand 50 mph winds. Even when properly guyed, the windward walls will collapse, but they will pop back out when the gusts subside. If two walls collapse, the roof will also collapse. But, once the walls are pushed out, you simply have to manually pop the roof up again. My point being that the tent will survive and continue to provide shelter even in 50 mph winds. The "tent fly", however, is the Achilles heel of the system. A 50 mph wind will rip the fly right off the tent. In my situation, the wind got under the fly and broke two of the bungee tie downs, and as the fly started to blow away, broke one of the fiberglass rods. I was able to run outside and grab the fly before it blew away (and I was able to repair the rod and replace the bungee tie downs for the duration of my trip). But, my suggestion is that you not deplay the fly if you expect the wind gusts are going to be above 30 mph. When I got home from this trip, I ordered a replacement fiberglass rod, plus a new rainfly. So, I now travel with a spare fly.

[@shanecaddad]

Yep, thanks for the review. I ordered the overland edition today. Much appreciated.

[@willtraveltofish]

My kamprite storage bag wore through as well. Great review👊🏼

[@tedspirakis627]

We've had our Gazelle T4 tent for two years, and it is still works great in all weather situations: A great Overlanding tent. Want a footprint? Get a heavy duty plastic 8 x 8 tarp to place underneath.

[@alkydah6741]

Agreed. You can get a tarp for $5 and 6 long 10" steel tent stakes for $4 at Harbor Freight

[@catherinelukaszewicz7050]

I've had my T4 for over a year now & think it's a great tent. Easy set up. Has held up well with extreme rain over multiple days with one exception - after 4 days of constant hard rain I have some seeping around the hubs on the side. Tent seam sealant won't help since the seepage is where the fabric meets the pole hubs. I did buy the footprint separately after getting a small tear from a pointy rock. I always replace the stakes with better ones on any tent so not surprised about that - in fact the stakes provided are better than most provided with other tents.

[@MWDAdventures]

thanks for sharing your experience

[@AlL-fw2cy]

Gazelle really upped the price of their T4 Overland from your screen capture. From $349 to the new $429 sale price!

[@musmustafa7900]

Enjoyed that review very much so and will play a major role in picking my tent.. Thank you

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad it was helpful! Stay tuned for a review of their new G6 Deluxe Gazebo coming soon.

[@titanpat57]

Hi Matt! It's been 3 years since your review. I would love to get an updated version! I just ordered a T4 after coming from an overland trailer for almost 15 years. The trailer took almost 2 hours from start to finish. I know this will be much less. The plan is to cover the rear of the truck with the Kelty Highroads shelter, cook and hang under there if needed. Outside of that Im looking forward to the T4 and a new way to explore! Thanks for the video!

[@kenmeyers382]

Great, helpful review Matt. I've read many reviews and the only thing that worried me is the gaps at the corners letting bugs crawl in. Great to hear that it was not really an issue for you.

[@livableincome]

Thanks. Very useful. I may get overland as well. I have to say, I've never heard of anyone relying on the tent floor without a tarp underneath as well. But maybe I am old fashioned. These footprints are a new thing and I'm looking forward to it.

[@davidcolinstillman5585]

THANK YOU ! BEEN THINKING & LOOKING AT THE GAZELLE T4 TENTS FOR QUICK SETUP ! BE SAFE ! HAVE FUN ! GOD BLESS YOU ALL ALWAYS ON YOUR JOURNEYS ! ENJOYED !

[@HRL48]

Thank you for taking the time for such a detailed report on this tent I really appreciate it. H

[@MWDAdventures]

Our pleasure!

[@oyajiblues]

Great review. No nonsense. Right to the point. Great tent, but here are the issues. I bought something off your Amazon link. That is about the best I can do (other than subscribing) to support you. Enjoy.

[@Murgledoo]

I really appreciate your insights and attention to detail in this video! Thank you sir!

[@Toubabou]

Just received mine, overland edition and so far impressed with the build quality and happy with improvement (footprint especially). I note your new steel tent pegs. I would recommend you find a copper head hammer or those plastic covered one. Over time your steel hammer is going to damage the peg tips

[@MWDAdventures]

Good idea.

[@DadMoves]

Didn't know how "Overland Edition" was different. Thank you for explaining that for Gazelle.

[@taco_timedqp4806]

Great video! I was originally going to go with a roof top tent but after all the videos of setup and climbing up on a lifted vehicle after parking and other challenges, Ive decided my vehicle mounted awning and a ground tent is the way to go. I wanted to make sure gazelle price point was worth it and your video seems to solidify it!

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad it was helpful!

[@WJ4x4OR]

Put some adventure patches on those holes, it will look awesome

[@teeforb]

Awesome review! I found the exact same issues with mine. No tent is perfect. So i still love my t4. I have always used a footprint on my t4

[@bertiemerle4983]

Thank you so much for the great and thorough review. You addressed all of my questions that I had after watching and reading other reviews. I really appreciate that!

[@2niblueharrington67]

Liked and subscribed! Great honest review!

[@michalamorton2611]

Thanks for your video! Very informative. I know condensation is a factor with every tent. Some tents being worse than others I would say, especially if there’s a lack of airflow.. which you mentioned. How would you say it does in that aspect? Thank you again!

[@wannabeangler]

Great review! Much more thorough than others. Thanks.

[@BBBYpsi]

I also have lived in Michigan my whole life. Best tent I ever had was a tent from Northwestern Territory & had that easy tent set up. Unfortunately it got stolen when my place was robbed. But I used it for many years & not a single problem, no tears, leaks...... Went up in about 2-3 minutes & about 4-5 minutes to tear down & repack it in its bag. It was called the easy up tent. It was 9.5 X 11. Perfect for three people & at 5'10 1/2 inches at the time I could almost stand straight up in it (I believe it was 5'6" high inside. Broke my heart to find out they stopped making them. Now I see some of the tents using some of the same technology they were using back in the late 1990's early 2000's. But I feel the quality of stuff made back then was far better than the garbage of today.

[@MWDAdventures]

We love how quick these tents are to set up.

[@DougRowan_photography]

I have a couple ice shelters that have the pop out hubs and you really REALLY have to tie those off, especially the direction of the wind, lol Nothing like getting woke up in the middle of the night (yeah, I night ice fish sometimes lol) and have one of those walls pop in on you. SCARES the crap outta you lol. I'm looking at adding this to my tent collection, so thank you for the video!!!!

[@DougRowan_photography]

Funny thing you mention about the bag too, I bought a Clam insulated shelter for ice fishing and 1st time out the zipper messed up and came apart. I contacted Clam and they said it's a known issue and sent out a MUCH heavier bag, way thicker, much nicer and even a bit more room in it to put it away. Customer service still exists, looks like Gazelle has it too!

[@aladent]

I just got my T4 delivered yesterday. I have 3 hub ice shacks, too. Can't wait to use this one.

[@drested1793]

Good video, appreciate the info. I just ordered a 2020 T4 for a pretty substantial discount. I’ll looking for the footprint for sure even though I’ve always used a tarp. And yea, generally stock stakes are worthless. Going to look for something similar to what you have.

[@thebigempty_5792]

100 % correct - I leave my T4 in my Lexus LX470 ( 2nd and 3rd row seats removed) with it just riding in my truck, the bag has a couple holes in it. I tried the stakes once....just toss them or use for emergency back ups and buy better stakes. Also, I use adjustable bungees to wrap the tent tighter before sliding it into the bag. There's alot of fabric and it gets a little fussy when the wind is kicking. (I've owned this tent for about a year so the new versions may not have these issues)

[@SistahRev]

VERY helpful. Appreciate your thoroughness and your well-organized appraisal. Thank you 💐

[@mquez509]

Have been looking into getting this tent but the T4 is too long for the way I want to transport it. The T3 is the perfect size but no longer being made for some reason, Hope it comes back.

[@donwyates]

I've got a T3 that I've been using almost everyday since the end of June 2020, and for the most part I like it. However, I camped on the Alvord Desert in Oregon for 2 wks., and experienced a dust storm that ruined the no-see-um door's zippers (not YKK). Also, dust blew up under the rainfly and absolutely coated everything in the tent. So if you expect to be in a dust storm, ever, get a 4 season tent. I filed a warranty claim, and the company has agreed to replace it... around the end of Nov-Dec, because they don't have any in stock. The customer support guy implied that the replacement will be a "redesigned T3", but somehow didn't know if it would have YKK zippers.

[@curseup]

Gazelle says the newly designed T3 will be out in 4-6 weeks

[@donwyates]

@@curseup Yeah, I just got an email reply from them that indicated as much.

[@chrisvideo6]

Thanks for the update review. We just took delivery of the T4 Overland. Well made, we love it. We're excited about using it for the first time on our trip in a couple of weeks! It's a good sign that Gazelle listens and responds to their customers. Apparently at some point - if not now - people will be able to purchase the upgraded parts.

[@claudiapatry9454]

HI ! THANK YOU TO SHOW US YOUR NICE TENT ,! I HAVE AN IDEA HOW BIG & ALSO TO SEE THE WINDOWS .. ME I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE ONE BUT IN BLUE SKY COLOR ! .I LIKE THIS TENT ! IT'S VERY EASY TO SET UP ! .👍 FROM DOWNTOWN MONTREAL ⚜️🇨🇦👋👋👋🤗🤩🥰💞💞💞

[@hbhighlander]

Just bought one. Haven't used it yet. Thank You.

[@stevewessels2562]

I watched a video, and the new bag has one handle instead of the original two handle bag

[@WarPig2012]

Thank you for your review. I am definitely sold on getting one. Good job

[@Poncelopr]

Great 👍🏼 review and most definitely subscribed!!!

[@sassysarina9718]

Very good review. Thanks

[@reneecopeland1095]

Good review! Thank you

[@JCB-Jeeps-Camping-Bourbon]

Great review! I have been eyeing a Gazelle for a long time now, and finally just ordered the new T-8 offering. I expect to get it this Friday, and plan on uploading a review since there doesn't seem to be one yet on KZbin.

[@mossifett9071]

Look forward to your review. I'm stuck between T4 plus & the T8.

[@JCB-Jeeps-Camping-Bourbon]

Matthew James not a full unboxing, per say, but I uploaded a quick walk through on my new T8 if you want to slide over to my channel and check it out

[@mossifett9071]

Awesome, headed there now!

[@sabrinafields1050]

What is the best pop up tent that has room and easy to put up and that I can stand up in and also use my queen size 22inch blow up mattress..

[@keithrudge]

Thanks for the video very informative. I had a couple of quick questions. Would this tent be suitable for two people and two oversized single carts with the small table like 3 ft.² and storage for clothes etc. I’m 6 foot tall and I know the height should be plenty but I wonder if the width which I guess is about 8‘ x 8‘ would be enough room. Normally, I hear you should at least double the size of the tent for the number of people.we also have a 12 dog so need to have space for her small bed.. thanks in advance.. also some concern about a spot to put wet shoes etc since there is no awning?

[@RaeInTime]

Great review! Thanks so much👍

[@stout_tossme7541]

I just got my T4 3 days ago. The bag feels heavy enough I can strap it to the roof. The tent it's self is amazing. But I have only had it 3 days. Lol

[@b.v.9864]

I just purchased the T4 Overland Edition, I hope that they have certainly made up for the issues with the older T4

[@bryanmanning5726]

velcro made the little holes in the interior netting

[@davidcolinstillman5585]

THANK YOU 🙏 BEEN LOOKING AT THEM ! BE SAFE ! ENJOYED 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨 🍨

[@timspring817]

Amen, the stakes didn't survive the first trip. Upgraded when I got home. I'm hoping they offer the heavy duty "overland" bag for the T4 Plus soon

[@BlazeYaTwiZtidHomie]

Once again, great review. Keep it up!

[@andrejones8473]

Thank you very much for the information about the tent I have actually been looking for a new tenant and this is the one I was looking at my one concern is the floor I’m not sure I like the idea of the floor comes up just for you can clean it do they have any that the floor that isn’t removable or was that not a issue for you or not. Thanks again Sir for checking out the tent and telling us all about it. PS so basically for me I want a tent with no removable bottom for easy cleanup. So if they have them without the easy bottom opening that would be a bonus. 😁

[@MWDAdventures]

As far as I am aware, all of the Gazelle tents have the removable floors

[@turkey4957]

I agree it seems like a design weakness where more seams can tear and things can get in just for the convenience and silly modern feature of being able to remove the floor. I wish it didn't come like that a because a lot of people complain of it coming apart

[@tlsnana9539]

The good things about removable floor is that you can replace it without ditching your whole tent. Also, we’re getting the T4 plus and plan to take floor out of screened side and use as “screened porch” with lawn chairs. Might change our minds though once we get it.

[@MrLou948]

@@tlsnana9539 how did it work out for you?

[@001Cherith]

Good review. I think maybe a tarp from Walmart should be good enough for footprint. But the cuts on the bag are inexcusable--ought to be a quality issue.

[@skankhunt8099]

This guy has beautiful lawn

[@lvwrx]

I agree, 1st thing i noticed lol

[@Justin-ky9gw]

Facts

[@DadMoves]

Same 1st thought... 🤣

[@neilvargas6850]

I have had similar holes appear in the bag and floor after about 10 overnight trips. I also have some small holes lining where the frame pushes out on the fabric. Frame is still very tight.

[@MWDAdventures]

thanks for you sharing your experience :-)

[@sandycarpenter9126]

Thank you for your review. I just purchased a T4. I guess the new stakes and footprint don’t come with this only the overland? I guess I will see when it arrives.

[@MWDAdventures]

Let me know. I am not sure on the overland model.

[@mikenewman8176]

Gazelle's makes the best tents ever built

[@nataliebrown6089]

I never set up a tent with out putting a heavy canvas tarp down first that should be a given.

[@cartellcalloway5045]

Great video

[@thedisabledoverlander8364]

I’m disabled unable to use on of my arms do you think you could set up the t4 with just one arm?

[@MWDAdventures]

It might be a challange with getting it out of the bag but pulling it open would be ok. Stepping on the fabric and pulling out the sides is easy.

[@GrizzBeaver]

Great tent if the wind is not blowing or not raining or no bugs to get thru velcro.

[@MWDAdventures]

We haven’t ever had bugs make it in the tent from Velcro. I have had 2 day rain storms and no issues with getting wet. The wind has popped a side in during a storm but it pops out easily and it was my fault for not putting out guy lines.

[@GrizzBeaver]

@@MWDAdventures good for you. Camping beside a pond, spiders found a wrinkle in the velcro. Wind of 40 plus guide lines had to be straight out tied to my truck and tree rain socked thru the side after a night of rain.

[@carlbostek3432]

Very useful review, thanks!

[@1ChiMom68]

Hey where do you camp by water? I'm in Clio near Flint. I i have limited options..

[@MWDAdventures]

We are on the Westside of Michigan and do a lot of camping along the Lake Michigan shore.

[@mikelabree]

Liked the review. Just bought the tent. I didn’t get a ground cover with mine or better stakes. They recommend guying the tent it to the stakes but that seems to close to the tent to do any good. Where did you get your stakes and hammer? Thanks again.

[@FishermanATX]

Great details! Thank you so much for this review! This helped me a lot!

[@jeremiahlavoie7998]

Any comment on winter use? Thanks for the video!

[@MWDAdventures]

Unfortunately I do not have any winter camping experience with this tent. I do think it would hold up well thought I have a feeling you would need to keep up on clearing the roof to prevent collapse.

[@davidfields1530]

Great review! I’m new to camping and I have a few questions: -does the gazelle tent fit four bed cots? For four adults ? -in terms of camping : I like having a gazebo type system and then just sleep there. ..meaning a large spacious space, which is why I like the gazelle ….Barring camping in cold climate etc..isn’t possible to just have a gazebo type set up and then just sleep in it? Maybe just add walls during the night Not sure if that makes sense Anyways thx for the great videos

[@NWBroker]

Thanks for the video. Is the top of the tent mesh? We have had a mesh top tent here in Oregon and often just makes it too dang cold and unable to heat. Thanks Again.

[@MWDAdventures]

Yes it does have a screen top

[@51249ca]

So they upgraded 3 things, but they cost extra (Overlanding Edition). Am I reading this correctly?

[@MWDAdventures]

Yes, the overlanding edition is more expensive as it has heavier duty features.

[@gary-fp8rw]

I just got a t3.Do you know why they stop making them? Or what wrong with them? MY LOOKS NEW and I am going too have good times I sure. Thank you for your video. Really good.

[@donwyates]

I've got a T3 with a warranty claim filed on it. The zippers used when mine was made, were not YKK. Hopefully that is part of their redesign. According to their customer support, mine won't ship until end of Nov-Dec.

[@gary-fp8rw]

Thank you for your reply.

[@BradM766]

Great video review. I’ve been chewing on whether or not to buy the T4 Alpine or the overland edition all week. The biggest hang up for me that I just can’t shake is that the overland edition is only available in that orange color and not the alpine green. Why they would do that is ridiculous to me. The overland is $349 on their site. To purchase the Alpine green T4 with the add ons of the stakes, footprint, and overland bag (still only orange) comes out to $414.96! I hate that I’ll have to pay an additional $60 just to get the color I want but in the long run it may still be worth it after watching your review.

[@MWDAdventures]

talking with other you tubers I there is rumor of a green overland edition coming. If you can't wait you can get the regular version knowing you are going to through the stakes.

[@BradM766]

@@MWDAdventures Did those rumors mention when? 😅

[@MWDAdventures]

@@BradM766 nope. It could be just a rumor and never happen. 😀

[@BirdDogOffRoadAdventures]

The only concern I have is with the removable floor. does is make it easier for unwanted guests (mice, snakes, etc.) to come in?

[@MWDAdventures]

We have not had any issues like that. We only un-velcro a small area to sweep out the dirt and put it back together. I have heard people complain it is hard to re-velcro the floor well if you take it off completely.

[@davidclt]

Only problem I found was on sites that had a lot of earwigs, they found a way to get in, not happy with that, still like the tent, I own a T 4plus will try to reseal the velcro joints with tarp tape since I'm not intending to remove the floor, only leaving the corners where the vertical poles get inserted vulnerable and front entrance bottom part of the zipper.

[@JosephCompnotta]

Thanks for the info. How is it still doing?

[@MWDAdventures]

working well.

[@JosephCompnotta]

@@MWDAdventures great, thanks

[@joannhurst6987]

What about the door, I;m 5' foot tall but it look like the door does not open in a square mode?

[@lolotus4borderless]

Tip top review no BS, awesome

[@tomdelorge268]

I just had a side wall pole poke through it's support pocket and I'm trying to figure out how to repair it. Anyone have any pointers?

[@MWDAdventures]

Did you reach out to Gazelle?

[@herniedog4641]

Sand stakes and dirt stakes are better when used properly.

[@GetOutBeHappy]

Great review. Most other review videos are nothing more than preview videos.

[@ashtonpilkey490]

I bought a cheap pop up tent several years ago from some online market... gazelle outdoors I thought that was ironic

[@alexdiaz6183]

Awesome review, thank you so much.

[@Randomboiiii]

Thank you

[@tomnelson3393]

Can you put a stove Jake in the tent or is it a 4 season tent

[@MWDAdventures]

I don’t think I would do that.

[@charlesstrong2280]

What about cold weather?

[@MWDAdventures]

We have not camped in this tent in cold weather so can't give an honest answer to this question.

[@CatfishWeekly]

Great review!!!

[@MWDAdventures]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@kaersten3623]

Do you think that it’s easy for one person to install the rain fly by themselves?

[@MWDAdventures]

Yes, one person should be able to apply the rain fly by themselves

[@luisquinones3227]

How is it works for the beach with ventilation? On a warm/hot night

[@MWDAdventures]

We have not used in for the beach, so can't speak to that. As for warm/hot nights, like any tent, you need some fans for additional ventilation.

[@brendansoutdoors377]

Have you noticed any wear on any of the corner tabs on the tent? I took my Gazelle out for its maiden voyage and within three days of normal, windy-enough-to-be-staked-but-not-excessively-windy use, two of the four corners have started separating from the body of the tent. I'm wondering if that's a common failure point on this design? One of the zippers for the bug screen doors detached from the teeth and ripped a nice big hole in the middle of the zipper, too. They say they use YKK zippers, but I'm not so sure. Every other thing I have that has a YKK zipper on it, you can tell because the zippers actually have "YKK" stamped into them, but none of the zippers on the Gazelle have that stamp.

[@MWDAdventures]

I have had no issues with the zippers. I think you got a defect tent after such little useage I would contact Gazelle.

[@merylstrep5933]

Corner tabs with the rings that attach to the floor? If that is what you are referring to then I too have had issues with it. It looks like I’m seeing that split after a handful of use and removing the floor once. Actually why I can to this video; to see if anybody else is having this problem

[@MWDAdventures]

@@merylstrep5933 We haven't had that problem . I would contact Gazelle.

[@donwyates]

There are counterfeit YKK zippers out there as well. Maybe the manufacturer used them at some point? Same thing happened to my T3 (now under warranty claim). Hopefully the "redesigned" T3 will have the real thing.

[@citizenpark2782]

Would you recommend the T4 or T8 for 3 adults 1 teenager?

[@MWDAdventures]

If it is just sleeping room T4, if you need space for gear T8. The number usually correlates with sleeping space only.

[@citizenpark2782]

@@MWDAdventures Thanks Matt, subscribed!

[@LectroDev]

Would you recommend this tent for beach camping?

[@MWDAdventures]

As long as you have sand stakes - but you would need these for any tent on the beach. I would think it would work good in that situation.