Triton P2413 Fault Code MiracleMAX

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MiracleMAX

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This Trion is a regular in the workshop. The customer takes good care of the maintenance of it and is happy for any servicing suggestions I make. Recently the intake system had an ultrasonic cleaning, which involved a massive job of removal of the intake system including the EGR valve while valve clearances were being carried out as part of a service. Now it’s back with a P2413 fault code.
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@deanhusband
@deanhusband 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Max, great work, I love how you kept going on the diagnosis to understand the problem. Guess I’ll be buying a new part for my Triton or doing some testing to get rid of that expensive light!
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
For sure, it's no use being a parts changer if they are not needed. That's why I test so much - to make as sure a I can be with the data provided to replace the correct part only. Also you need to try and figure why the part failed in the beginning.
@odyromero7233
@odyromero7233 2 ай бұрын
hi max. kindly help me out. I forgot to put the MAF SENSOR backe after i sprayed some contact cleaner. I road tested my car after for about 30 min. Then I noticec the CHECK ENGINE light turned on. I stopped the car turned the engine off and put the MAF plug back into place. But the CHECK ENGINE light did not go away. Can I try re learning it or something? cna u teach me how? MITSUBISHI STRADA 2012 - Philippines hoping to hear from you soon. Thanks a lot.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 ай бұрын
You should be able to easily clear the code via a scan tool. If the vehicle goes through several drive cycles, it may even clear itself if you have reconnected the sensor.
@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage
@GerardBurkeBurkesGarage 4 жыл бұрын
As comprehensive as it gets, absolutely quality video mate packed full of fantastic info. I was delighted you pulled it apart at the end, gave me a warm fuzzy feeling :) You need to create links for your tools and parts to pop in the description. Give me some feedback on that new scope too, looks nice.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your feedback Gerard. Just like you, I've always liked to pull things apart to see how they work and what failed. Good idea on putting parts in description. I haven't used the scope enough to properly review it, but will give an opinion in future videos. It's pretty good for the price & once you sort out the navigation, quite useful. Once again, thanks for the feedback. 😊
@rogerwhite2653
@rogerwhite2653 3 жыл бұрын
I love to do electrical repairs too great video on when you pull it up the info is a great headlightin too love see more of your videos you are a great teacher
@rogerwhite2653
@rogerwhite2653 3 жыл бұрын
I just watch ur video on fix the vehicle
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@rogerwhite2653 Hey Roger, welcome to the channel. I find electrical repairs and testing both frustrating and satisfying. When you are trying to diagnose something difficult and it doesn't make sense, you can end up ripping out your hair. But, if you slow down and think about what is actually working, move forward to find the fault, that can be the most satisfying part of the repair. Thanks for your comments. 😁
@theodoreholland559
@theodoreholland559 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max I am answering some of your questions concerning my triton. I boughti it as a second hand with 144.000 km already on. I do not know its service history because it was imported in my county from Austria and the mechaics there don't answer my e-mails . The chassis number is MMCJYKB40CD006084. Can you or anybody find anything from the record files of Mitsubishi motors ? I forgot to mention the P1766 FAULT SO its three P1766 P1782 and P1783
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
Sorry, I am not able to research history of your vehicle. Here is some information on the remaining fault code you have asked about P1766 mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/pajero_iv/online/Service_Manual/2017/23/html/M123112220042100ENG.HTM
@jessethomas-n2t
@jessethomas-n2t 7 ай бұрын
Hey mate I had the same code coming up so changed the EGR valve and all gaskets to do with EGR. Fault code keeps coming up even after clearing it , it will come back up within 30minutes of driving. Exhaust had a bit of black smoke coming out also , any thoughts?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 7 ай бұрын
Did you carry out all the tests shown in the video? Is there a large amount of carbon built up in the intake system? When the EGR valve is activated, can you see the MAF reading change in live data? Does it have any exhaust leaks? Is the air filter clean?
@borjaevo
@borjaevo 7 ай бұрын
Hello Max, i have a montero that show p2413 error. I did some diagnosis and position sensor is ok, but something weird is happening with the egr motor. The problem is im not sure if is a problem of the egr or its the ECU that cant generate the proper function to move it. I tried to move the egr to 50 or 100% sending the command using diagnosis and its not moving. The egr never moves except if i force it with my hand to open. In that case the egr is returning to close when you turn ignition off. Is the only situation where the egr moves. I tried to operate the valve providing constant voltage with a power supply and it moves... so i dont know... thanks anyway
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 7 ай бұрын
You may find that the EGR valve can not be operated with the fault code. The code must be cleared first
@ishaismail9128
@ishaismail9128 5 ай бұрын
Hi max I have a triton 2.5did which I’m stuck with vehicle starts when cam sensor unplugged but won’t start when it’s plugged in I’ve changed the sensor but no luck Timing is spot on the marks Just some background timing belt snapped breaking rockers we had the head redone with engineers and injectors where also reconditioned fault only came up now after we did the head . Please help me
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 5 ай бұрын
Are there any fault codes?
@ishaismail9128
@ishaismail9128 4 ай бұрын
@@MiracleMAX when the cam sensor is plugged in no fault codes
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 4 ай бұрын
@@ishaismail9128 Has this fault only happened since the head repair has been done?
@kiwiaus
@kiwiaus 8 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT - thorough - well filmed, simple, great resource for the backyard mechanic - you've just picked up a subscriber 😆
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 8 ай бұрын
Thanks! I hope you get some benefit from the other videos on the channel as well 😊
@theodoreholland559
@theodoreholland559 Жыл бұрын
Hi Max as I was searching I found this "Malfunction of second brake system" (for diagnosis codes 1780 and 1783) what is the second brake system? Another interesting in my case is the "Malfunction of underdrive clutch system (for diagnosis codes P1779, P1780, P1781, P1782)
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
Here are some links that might help P1779 mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/pajero_sport_iii/online/Service_Manual/2018/23/html/M123115860001100ENG.HTM P1780, P1781, P1782 mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/l200_2006/online/Service_Manual/2015/23/html/M123112610014701ENG.HTM What full codes are the 1780 & 1783 P, B, C or U?
@knolez1546
@knolez1546 Жыл бұрын
I live with this code, lol
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
Hopefully the video will help you repair it. 😉 Of course there could be many other issues creating the code, including carbon build up in the intake system
@theodoreholland559
@theodoreholland559 Жыл бұрын
Hello . Thank you for this video. I am an owner of a 2012 Mitsubishi L200 with an automatic transmission gear box. And here is the problem . As I am driving at a normal speed of 80 km/hour -55 miles/h , often stepping away from the gas pedal and let the car go due to traffic, then the car breaks suddenly 2 times and moves from the 4th gear to the second gear. After that it is stucked on the second and I cannot accelerate, the D indecator flashes, and the only way out is to pull over and switch off the engine and started again. Do you have an idea what is causing it ? Can anyone help ? Thank you the diagnostics reads P1782 and P1783
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
When was the transmission serviced last? Has the oil been flushed, not just drained? Can you see in live data if the over-drive pressure switch is changing state? For the P1783 code, check and see if the transmission temperature sensor is reading correctly in live data. Do you do towing? Have you towed over the limit and overheated the transmission? This also may give you some direction mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/pajero_iv/online/Service_Manual/2017/23/html/M123113320020900ENG.HTM
@grumblesaw4415
@grumblesaw4415 9 ай бұрын
Thanks Max. I had an MN triton, we cleaned the EGR and intake. still had the P0403 and 2413 codes code up. EGR wasn't that bad before, valve works very free after clean, the spring would just closed. but after watching your video, we found that we had 0% EGR duty command and 99.2% error. So I hooked the 12v up to the motor to see if it went in and out by itself, off the EGR valve. Went in and out. then we mounted back to the valve , we could hear it operating the valve ( plug disconnected) . Then we plugged it back in, started the ute, the Cheap EML327 scan adaptor with Car Scanner app showed the duty cycle working 67%, no error. thanks, I understand a little more.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 9 ай бұрын
Great to hear that those testing procedures were helpful. Well done! 👍 Thanks for your subscription
@francisibanez2058
@francisibanez2058 Жыл бұрын
i enjoyed watching your video. i have the same P2413 error on my obd2 code reader on my SUV Mitsubishi Montero 4D56 diesel. there is black smoke on the exhaust during quick accelaration and noticed higher fuel consumption. check engine indicator goes on and off for several days apart. I try to pull out the EGR motor and connect it to a 12V PWM DC motor controller to check its action. I dont have a pulse generator to simulate ECU control voltage. I learned a lot from you video. I plan to buy an economical full systems scanner, what brand and model do your recommend for Mitsubishi / asian/japanese cars. i dont have auto shop. im looking at Ancel FX4000 or X6 Do I need to have bi-directional active test option on the scanner to have a complete diagnosis and confirm the failing component of my car? or a full systems scanner is just enough for a hobbyist like me. thanks. Pls keep doing more videos to help everyone.God Bless you and your family.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
Hey Francis, I'm glad you are getting something from the videos! Obviously with scan tools, you get what you pay for. A few things to keep in mind. You must make sure the software that they load into the tool will cover the vehicles you require. Some companies get you to pay for updates each year. I would ask if the tool is bi-directional as that is a crucial feature that helps diagnose faults quickly. I don't know the brand Ancel, so I really can't comment. Also, I don't know what your specific needs are for a scan tool, so it is a little hard to give advice. Read reviews on the tool before you buy. I hope that helps a little Cheers MiracleMAX
@cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813
@cesarjorgemurillobarientos1813 3 жыл бұрын
good master
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Cesar Jorge Murillo Barientos for your kind words.
@moeamanzadeh5273
@moeamanzadeh5273 6 ай бұрын
Changed the EGR but still getting the code! Perhaps need to clean the cooler and the pipes..?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 6 ай бұрын
Has the intake system been cleaned of carbon? In live data, can you see the MAF change readings when the EGR is activated?
@Dru180sx
@Dru180sx Ай бұрын
Hi Max, I swapped the old EGR with a brand new one. Cleared all codes, when i try an active test to set EGR to 100%, I can feel there is no movement with the EGR motor, EGR stays at 0% and it throws this code ? What do you think ? Also putting 12v to the correct pins on the EGR opens and closes the valve no issues.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
So did you replace the EGR valve because of a code? Have you checked for 5 volts, tested ground and varying voltage at the signal wire? Have you tested it at the PCM?
@Dru180sx
@Dru180sx Ай бұрын
Hi Max, thanks for your reply, I replaced the EGR as I was getting P4213, after a clean the old EGR motor did not actuate with 12v applied to neg and pos pins, new EGR worked fine. Update : After I cleared the codes, and de-energised the car, the new EGR Position is at 65% after idling for a few seconds (Engine at operating temp), however, EGR ERR value is eratically fluctuating anywhere from -70% to 69%. After a 3min test drive, same P4213 code pops up, and both EGR values are back to 0% MAF g/s reading is also eracticlly fluctuating from 19.00 to 29.00 g/s on idle, and CAT temp has a static value of 22 degrees Celsius... Im guessing dirty MAF and blocked CAT ? The turbo had a history of oil leaks into compression housing(now fixed), which left heaps of engine oil in the intercooler & in the piping on hot and cold side (now cleaned), any thoughts? Much appreciated!
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
@@Dru180sx Does yours have a CAT or are your referring to a DPF? Carbon buildup can cause this issue. It is strange that the MAF is reading this way. Is it clean? The MAF reading will change with the EGR actuating, therefore changing the reading, however it should not be erratic. Temp sensors can play up. Can you disconnect one and see if it reads -40 degrees on the scan tool? Are the EGR readings at the actual valve consistent with what you are seeing on the scan tool? If you had oil leaks through the intake system, it is possible that you have carbon buildup that must be removed. Have you carried out a smoke machine test to see if there are any intake vacuum leaks?
@Dru180sx
@Dru180sx Ай бұрын
Mine has a CAT. It's the 2011 MN model. I'll clean the MAF, and check the intake for vacuum leaks, and clean the temp sensors, including EGT sensor, I think is a good start to see if I can rectify the MAF readings... than a EGR Relearn. See how she goes. Thanks again mate.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
@@Dru180sx Let us know how you go 👍
@AkonomarcelStephane
@AkonomarcelStephane Жыл бұрын
A quoi sert ce compteur ??
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
The trouble code P2413 is defined as Exhaust Gas Recirculation System Performance issue.
@fcemech3692
@fcemech3692 Жыл бұрын
Thanks mate for your video, very helpful
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
You are welcome. I have a heap of Triton videos that you might find useful. 😉
@vasinalyzhaika
@vasinalyzhaika 3 жыл бұрын
я правильно понял, что управляется клапан напряжением 12в, а управление выходом клапана осуществляется частотой ?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey MAX PROFF, I have entered your comment into Google translate and will try and answer your question as best as I can. The EGR valve is broken into two circuits - the motor and the potentiometer. The motor is driven by 12 volts. The potentiometer has a 5 volt reference, a ground and a signal return back to the ECU. The ECU drives the EGR motor via a pulse width modulated signal. kzbin.info/www/bejne/poOXe2huptKlbs0 This is also another video I did on a Triton with an EGR fault kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ2oo3qInbd5g6M&ab_channel=MiracleMAX I hope that answers your question. MiracleMAX
@KATSAMBA0719
@KATSAMBA0719 3 жыл бұрын
How much is the cost of gscan3 Sir?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Jo Pay, Here in Australia I would contact Mount Auto Equip for pricing. www.autoequipment.com.au/
@eddymofo3359
@eddymofo3359 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I blocked my egr 😅
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment Eddy
@neereshdevraj1282
@neereshdevraj1282 9 ай бұрын
Very good explanation, thx
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 9 ай бұрын
Thank you 👍
@clauskam
@clauskam 3 жыл бұрын
Good morning, when my l200 triton does the learning of the nozzles it only does the first injector nozzle and for learning, then the mechanic interrupts the process. I've already tried another mechanic and he says it can't be done. Could this procedure take a long time to finish? Brasil L200 triton gl 2013 motor diesel 3.2 4M41
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Claus Roberth Kamchen, I'm not exactly sure of what you mean. Are you referring to injector coding or small injection quantity relearning? I have a video on each. kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3SuZIV7hpKssMk&ab_channel=MiracleMAX kzbin.info/www/bejne/kGfCo6hpjd2CaJI&ab_channel=MiracleMAX This should provide you the step by step process of both procedures. I hope that helps MiracleMAX
@clauskam
@clauskam 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning, I bought Aliexpress's egr valve. but it works a few kilometers, and after it heats up, it stops working, the supplier sent another one under warranty, but it gave the same problem. Where did you buy this from the video? thank you Claus Brazil Google translator
@anishchalnand4681
@anishchalnand4681 Жыл бұрын
Hi mate great work .
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers! 😉
@braythiago1127
@braythiago1127 3 жыл бұрын
How could I put that fitting room together. You will have the diagram to make egr tester
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Braythiago, I'm not exactly sure of what you are asking, but I will be making a video at some point about the function generator build with a schematic. I'll put it in my 'DIY Workshop Equipment' playlist. I got the little function generator off Ebay under the title '1Hz~150kHz PWM Signal Generator Pulse Frequency Adjustable Module Test EquiSJKA' I used the voltage protection circuit from Vince's Thoughts Blog blog.deconinck.info/post/2017/12/22/18650-Battery-charger-reverse-polarity-protection I also used a mosfet on the output side to cope with the high current. Stay tuned for the video & don't forget to subscribe & hit the notification bell so you don't miss out! MiracleMAX
@braythiago1127
@braythiago1127 3 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if you can share me the schematic diagram of the egr valve tester
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@braythiago1127 Hey Braythiago, I have that information in my last comment. When I get a chance, I'll make a video on the build.
@yusuflbs7535
@yusuflbs7535 Жыл бұрын
Hello Max, good information there.. do you use 5V or 12V to moving Motor ?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
As you can see in the video, I have used a 12 volt UPS battery. kzbin.info/www/bejne/poOXe2huptKlbs0 I use this a lot as it is small enough to carry around. In fact I use one of these regularly teaching the apprentices in class for demonstrations. A very hand piece of equipment for testing components. Thanks for your comment. 😉
@yusuflbs7535
@yusuflbs7535 Жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX Do you think 5V can move the motor ? i read service manual Mitsubishi, and they say use 5V to move the motor.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Жыл бұрын
@@yusuflbs7535 The position sensor built into the EGR has a 5 volt reference. The motor itself uses a 12 PWM signal. 5 volts may start the motor moving, but I suggest there will be a lot of electrical noise and possible shuddering
@yusuflbs7535
@yusuflbs7535 Жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX Thank for explanation
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u Ай бұрын
Hey mate, I've watched this a couple of times. I've replaced my EGR, clean the sensors, clean my intake manifold. Mechanic took it off my hands did the egr valve replacement and check engine light came straight on. I can clear it but keeps coming back
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
What fault code do you have? Have all the tests been done that are shown in the video? What are the MAF readings when the EGR actuates? Is this the same engine?
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u Ай бұрын
@@MiracleMAX p2413 done everything and it's not going
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
@@BenjaminOBrien-m6u Can you clear the fault code, remove the EGR, activate it with the scan tool and see if it is moving?
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u
@BenjaminOBrien-m6u Ай бұрын
@MiracleMAX yep it moves. I don't understand it at all. It's been to the mechanic and he is out of ideas. I put the old dc motor onto the new valve and a codes been thrown I've had P4213 and P0405. If I put the new motor on its only code P2412 and if put the new motor onto the new valve I only get P0405.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX Ай бұрын
@@BenjaminOBrien-m6u Have the 5 volt reference, ground and signal wires, together with the position sensor readings been checked at the PCM using an oscilloscope? Are the MAF readings as well as the MAP readings correct when compared to known good data? Has a wiggle test as well as a voltage drop test been carried out? Is the PCM up to date with software? mmc-manuals.ru/manuals/pajero_iv/online/Service_Manual/2008_eu/13/html/M113350140022300ENG.HTM
@carlosbah4623
@carlosbah4623 3 жыл бұрын
Superb video. ¡gracias!
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
You are welcome Carlos.
@astobizamagrachastobizamag5389
@astobizamagrachastobizamag5389 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic-
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@iankelly2110
@iankelly2110 3 жыл бұрын
well done max brilliant info been shared you deserve more subscribers
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ian, In this case it was just an excuse to play with some new toys....sorry tools 😁 Feel free to tell your friends to subscribe!
@neiljohntolentino6365
@neiljohntolentino6365 3 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Is it 5V supply?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Neil John Tolentino, The motor is driven by 12 volts, the potentiometer has a 5 volt reference. The information is listed here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/poOXe2huptKlbs0 MiracleMAX
@neiljohntolentino6365
@neiljohntolentino6365 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX thank you sir. I have no check engine but when I scanned, the value of egr target position is zero at idle, once rev it goes up and went back to zero.. do you think its on the egr assembly?
@neiljohntolentino6365
@neiljohntolentino6365 3 жыл бұрын
I have an old egr. When i drive it with 12volts.. the valve does not fully open.. is the motor already broken?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@neiljohntolentino6365 So what issues are you having with the vehicle? Do you have a fault code to work with? How many kilometres has the engine done? Are the target values the same as the actual values?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@neiljohntolentino6365 The EGR valve is driven by duty cycle. However when you put 12 volts to it, it should open and when the wires are reversed, it should close. Here's an example of what I mean kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ2oo3qInbd5g6M
@ramenzwagermam4193
@ramenzwagermam4193 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video. Have you had a new faulty OEM EGR? Just replaced my EGR and now have A CEL P2413. Previous shudder, rich running condition with old EGR but no CEL. 4N14.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Ramen, Why was the EGR replaced? Is there a build up of carbon in the intake system? Have you done an EGR reset with the scan tool? What are the symptoms now in comparison to the old EGR? Has the fault code been cleared and comes back straight away? According to the scan tool, when was a regeneration done last? Is the oil level overfull? Does the oil smell like fuel? Has a small injection quantity relearn been done?
@ramenzwagermam4193
@ramenzwagermam4193 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX thanks for the response! I was having shudder and hesitation between 1800-2200 rpms with rich running condition blowing lots of black smoke, this symptom was resolved with an EGR delete cable. I had already removed and cleaned intake manifold and egr but symptom persisted so I replaced the unit. This has completely resolved all issues except intermittent CEL and rough shut down. I only had a basic obd tool and have been able to view and reset. I was unaware the EGR position was able to be reset! I had followed work shop manuals. Oil levels are normal. I'll have my mechanic have a look with a proper scan tool to check DPF function and EGR reset!
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramenzwagermam4193 Let us know how you go 😉
@ramenzwagermam4193
@ramenzwagermam4193 2 жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX I went to a local suggested mechanic with a decent scan tool and he only just erased error codes stating this should Zero Values. Same as I had already done. Is there a more complex process under PCM controls to reset EGR Values? I have seen this process with other vehicles. Hope you are having a great weekend!
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
@@ramenzwagermam4193 Yes, you need to go into 'special functions' to do any resets. Clearing codes will not change any of the settings.
@ibslpaul
@ibslpaul 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. With this information I hope to solve my P2413 on a 3.2l Shogun/Pajero. I am interested in your function generator. I have built various gadgets to help me solve other real world problems and would like to build one like yours. Have you a link to your solution?
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Paul, I'm glad you got some help from this video. If you subscribe, you won't miss out on any future related videos. Here is another video where I used the function generator to diagnose an ignition coil. kzbin.info/www/bejne/fZCTaYR-fd2Xr6M&ab_channel=MiracleMAX I will be making a video at some point about the function generator, so stay tuned! 😉 MiracleMAX
@ibslpaul
@ibslpaul 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX Thanks. Subscribed! I lifted my EGR and found 6.4ohms across the servo motor. Applied 12v across the yellow and purple pins and got crisp movement out and back (with mechanical valve coupled so physical resistance probably not an issue). With unit removed from loom I measured (at connector, ignition on, from connector pin to vehicle ground) G pin1 5v, Br pin 2 9.3v, Bl pin 3 9.5v, Y pin 4 9.4v and Purple pin 6 9.4v. I failed to get a reading with loom connector fixed to valve motor as the seal between loom wires and connector pins is sealed and water tight. I set up mobile phone on video record, cleared codes on OBD-II tool and turned ignition on, waited, off and saw valve pop open/closed and then the unit, without valve movement, heard electro/mechanical pulses that had no visible effect, but may have been an attempt to cycle the valve to open and closed several times (a cycle I've seen reported on other forums), no movement. I'm left wondering whether the motor for the valve is faulty, or the wiring to the value faulty. Any thoughts? I wish I had your function generator to exercise the motor/valve properly.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
​@@ibslpaul Hey Paul, Has your code come back? The fault code P2413 EGR System Performance, can mean a range of problems, not just the EGR itself. Not sure if you have seen this video relating to the same code. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pJ2oo3qInbd5g6M&ab_channel=MiracleMAX How many Kms has the vehicle done? The EGR valve will mechanically wear and then put extra stress on the motor, causing the fault code. Or, carbon build-up can create faults as well. If you have cleared the code, then the EGR will work again. As shown in the above video, these vehicles will not allow you to do activations until the code is cleared. Just keep in mind, that this is just a motor with a potentiometer attached, so the ECU knows where the valve is at the time. I show you further testing in this other video I have given the link for. It's best to leave the EGR connected to get correct voltage readings as the ECU may run a bias voltage or other strange things may happen. Just use some dress making pins to carefully go past the weather seals to back-probe the connector. You can see I have used some in the linked video. Here's a link to some information that might help www.obd-codes.com/p2413 Check out that video - it might give you some more direction in your testing process. MiracleMAX
@ibslpaul
@ibslpaul 3 жыл бұрын
@@MiracleMAX Thanks. My engine is the Pajero 3.2 DiD, 200,000Kms, 2012. I studied the info via the links you kindly sent. I was able to fit dress pins to connector and after clearing codes could see a change in the output voltage from the potentiometer 0.8v closed to just under 5v fully opened (manually moved). Bolted EGR back in position. Ran a live recording on my scanner and noted once engine warm the EGR Command could be seen to vary the EGR Error % seen to grow on command change and quickly drop to 0% as the movement matched the commanded position. It operated at tick over for about 5 mins before the P2413 was thrown. I have the live recording and a freeze frame. Nothing jumps out in the various readings leading up to and immediately after the code being thrown. Once thrown the Commanded and Error stay at 0%. I noted that my scanner has another monitor feature which provided the following information: EGR Monitor Bank 1 (title) followed by a list of parameters and settings, Component ID: $01; Limit Type: Min/Max; Test Value: 0.00mg/stk; Minimum Limit: 655.35mg/stk; Maximum Limit: 655.35mg/stk; Status: Fail. Is this an indication of a MAP/MAT sensor error? I think this is my best lead at present. I have cleaned the valve in past and recently - no play in the value and smooth to move. I have cleaned the pipe from EGR to Manifold. I have not removed and cleaned the manifold and wonder if the ECU is clever enough to identify flow problems if manifold is badly gummed up? It's such a big job to remove the manifold. I have a tin of the Wynns EGR cleaner so may give that a go tomorrow. Any thoughts or guidance on next diagnostic step most appreciated.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 3 жыл бұрын
@@ibslpaul Hey Paul, As you saw in the video, I have used Wynns EGR cleaner with a certain amount of success. These engines suffer heaps from carbon build up. At 200,000 Km, I'm sure there is a fair amount of carbon build up. Just keep in mind that the EGR valve is only part of the intake and exhaust system in the EGR system. If any part of this path is blocked, then the EGR system will log a code. If you are concerned about if you have a faulty MAF sensor, check out in live data what your readings are at idle and about 2000 RPM.
@ruwansl5175
@ruwansl5175 2 жыл бұрын
Good job.
@MiracleMAX
@MiracleMAX 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
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