Triumph Speed Twin - How to cure a snatchy throttle

[@7up761]

5 months ago - l put 2 small oil resistant O-rings on the top "lug" of the two in the throttle housing , instead of "the kit" , and it has been TOTALLY reliable. The above kit was purported to be approx $112.oo delivered in Australia . 15 minutes and "cents" to fit :•) Fantastic Result ! ! ! Needless to say : this WILL work for Ducati T0_0 My mod to throttle was/is very accessible to anybody - IT WORKS - enjoy the control.

[@normanemery7504]

John Buckley what was the diameter and ring section of the o rings? Ta, Norman

[@7up761]

@@normanemery7504 Orings l used are R-05 from an Aldi Workzone kit - 5mm inside diameter/1.8mm cord diameter . l used 2 on the "top" lug , and have not felt the need to put any on the "bottom" lug closest to your thumb . It is a fidget to do without 2 more hands = but WORKS and is only pennies . Update : the O-rings wiggled off after a few more months 🥴 so I took the 2 off and put only 1 back on with a spot of super glue on 3 of the faces of the lug 😇 and no more problems ! ! ! 💪

[@stevetaylor8698]

I've got a Jawa 350. Throttle snatch is never a problem, in fact you can grab as much throttle as you want and it won't make any immediate difference. It works rather like a telegraph system on a steamship, it sends a signal to the engine room, and a crew member opens a valve and eventually you go a bit quicker.

[@Fernweh1965]

I always place a towel over my petrol tank whenever I go anywhere near it with tools, I learned that the hard way. Good video though.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes good tip....

[@derekm6236]

I do too now, after also learning the hard way!!

[@wongfeihung6285]

Great tip 👍

[@mattnicholas9842]

Useful for mopping up the tears when it all goes wrong as well.

[@dt6949]

Fitted the spacer kit to my Speed Twin and it's a total transformation. Took about 10 minutes and the kit is now available within the UK at Square Deals UK Ltd. Well worth the investment. Thanks.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Told you it was good!

[@satudave]

Having the same bike, this video was perfect. I had no idea anybody even had a fix for the slop. Ordered a set already. Thanks

[@yonniboy1]

I fitted the spacers to my Street Triple R after watching your video on your Panigale, it makes a tremendous difference on a fly by wire throttle.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It's not just me then!

[@linserr90]

What year is your Street Triple R? I am looking to do this mod on my 2019 Street Triple RS (not the newest model out now)

[@yonniboy1]

@@linserr90 August 2018

[@linserr90]

@@yonniboy1 Ok it will fit mine then. Which model did you pick in the orderlist because there is no street triple in the selection?

[@yonniboy1]

@@linserr90 I'll have a look to see if I can find the details as it was over a year ago.

[@perhaps6112]

Nice vid Andy. In answer to all those people asking why there is free play built-in originally, and it's the same with the clutch lever, is that without it you cannot be certain that these controls are fully released. Thus the manufacturers have to spec a certain small amount of free play in them to make sure the operation has passed the release point. Bike manuals will specify the actual amount of free play to be set for the throttle and clutch controls. For throttles this has probably become less important with the advent of electronic control, but it remains important for the clutch lever.

[@GWMotley1]

Hello Andy, thanks for the tip. I finally stopped procrastinating this weekend and installed the spacer kit on my Triumph Street Scrambler and love the result. Great videos. Thanks again, Gary.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Told you it was worth doing! Simple little fix isn't it....

[@chrisgibson4235]

Just fitted this to my Street Scrambler, and my god what a difference, no more lag or snatching, thanks for the link and also the discount. Brilliant channel, been an avid watcher for a few years now..👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad it helped Chris - I must say I have found the spacers excellent on both my Triumph and Ducati....

[@edfoss9974]

The jerky throttle was making me batty and taking a lot of the fun out of riding this great bike. Thank you for providing such an easy remedy. Used your discount code, as well!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good fix isn’t it!

[@edfoss9974]

@@TheMissendenFlyer The throttle has reverted to it's prior smutchy self!! Even worse I'd say. Any time I close the throttle below 40 MPH, I have to use the clutch or hang on tight for the lurch forward. Something must not be staying put in there.

[@vikinglab79]

I saw your Panigale video a week after receiving my new Speed Twin and ordered the spacers immediately. An absolute must for me, not only for first-gear riding, but also when flying through the gears on country roads. Yes, the plastic is worth a few cents (less than the supplied bit even), but the “problem” solved is worth way more than 30 bucks IMO. While you’re next shopping on TEC’s website, I thoroughly recommend the Raider 2-1 (decat) exhaust. The look, sound, and especially the massive weight saving make this a very worthwhile purchase.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Lachlan - I have the Vance and Hines pipes on mine....I love em!

[@HoraceFogsworth]

I've only ever had cable throttles and always take all the play out of the them as soon as I can. I know you're not supposed to but it makes any bike so much more pleasant to ride. I check for smooth throttle operation with the bars turned each way before declaring the job finished and am still alive to be typing this.

[@david-comfortablynumb.2570]

Do you think it would fix the snatchy throttle on my 2019 GSX S1000 which has a cable throttle? The snatchiness drives me mad!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No....

[@rich.dodd1]

@@david-comfortablynumb.2570 no, ask me how I know....fucking throttle is a nightmare on these bikes, bucks like you wrist is having convulsions. Only way to fix it is a remap. I've tried on my 2016 pcv 5, autotune, throttle tamer, slack removed, suspension adjustment. It's all made sod all difference. Bike has now been remapped on a Dyno, it's a fucking beast now and 100% as you would expect

[@PhilipBallGarry]

Thanks for this - very interesting. Of course the usual reason for having free play (usually about 5mm) is to allow for the movement of the bars and ensure that from lock-to-lock it doesn't pull the carb or throttle body from it's detented idle position. This is obviously negated with a TBW system - but manufacturers still seem to insist on having the free play there. It would be interesting to see if Triumph (or Ducati) have caught up yet?

[@olddudeonaducati3153]

My throttle at low speeds is absolutely horrific on my 16 monster 821..must try this...thanks and a big thumbs up from across the pond...

[@craigprosser9554]

I fitted these to my SuperSport after watching your first video, I have to say it surprised me how well they worked.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It’s a top mod isn’t it!

[@theglynux]

Just purchased a speed twin, it’s definitely got a snatchy throttle. Ordered the kit, thanks for the discount code

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to help!

[@commo3451]

Took my new Speed Twin out for its first ride yesterday and immediately noticed the sloppy throttle at slow speed. Expected a little, but was surprised at the amount of play and I agree, it really spoils slow speed riding. Blipping the throttle, nothing happens for the first part of the twist. Total contrast to my 2015 Street Triple. Not a major problem but just a bit pants. If, as someone suggested, its meant to replicate the original feel, then I'm happy for my bike to be a little less authentic. Delighted to learn about this mod from your channel and have already sent for a set of the spacers. Top tip and thanks for the discount code. (Helps towards the postage).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes this is a great mod - congratulations on the new bike, good choice!

[@Aaron.Newman]

Thanks for this video! I just installed my spacers two days ago for my Speed Twin. What a difference! My riding feels much more precise now and no more jerky throttle at low speed.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good aren't they!

[@Richard-pe4cx]

there's nothing better than doing a job on your bike and feeling job well done

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed - rarely happens in my case, I usually cock it up but luckily this install was pretty straightforward....

[@telbenj]

I did mine, the first week I had the bike, it makes a massive difference, why the throttle isn't made that way I don't know, I actually leave mine in sport mode all the time now. Very worth while mod Terry

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad you found it useful!

[@trailrider1980]

I finally had the chance to visit a triumph dealer for a demo ride. I tested the speed twin. Really like the attention to detail. Suspension was awesome in comparison to my mt09. However, I was surprised that the throttle is jerkier than my mt09. My mt09 has been flashed which solved most of the issue. The speed twin torque and snatchy throttle was a big surprise. I still like the engine of the mt09 better by a lot but I am loving the triumph brand as well. The mt09 is not meant to be compared to the speed twin. Both are fun bikes. The mt09 is very smooth and way more powerful. The triumph has a mechanical vibe to it which I like as well, it is also responsive but redline comes fast. At this point, the speed twin is not different enough to make me switch or sell my mt09 but I will definitely upgrade the mt09's suspension. I am now looking at the t120 for my wife and I and keep the mt09 for spirited riding.

[@iainwaterston7476]

Last time I commented I said I fancied a speed twin as a first bike. Against your advice I now have one 😂😂 Just did this mod, thanks for the video, the code and all the other videos that made my mind up on this bike 👍😄😄

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Nice one Iain, be safe!

[@caroldave4037]

Never ceases to amaze me how the simplist of fixes work... creaky rear brake on my 240miles himalayan out with the pads sandpaper the edges bit of copperslip and wey hey silence.!!!!

[@kereyholton6108]

Are you a fucking moron!!!

[@lordpunter6188]

Hi Andy, just fitted a spacer kit to my Tiger 900gt pro - wow what a difference! Thanks for finding these !

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Told you they were good!

[@HarryHartman71]

Just ordered the spacers. Stupid I forget to enter your discount code. Hopefully my Speed ​​Twin will arrive next week. Love your videos. Thanks a lot. Stay safe, drive safe and have fun!

[@bradleyalexander5821]

Brilliant, now you can come on over and install my new tires and the “Bark Busters”. 👍🏼 👏👏👏 😎 🇺🇸

[@davidmohr4004]

Quick and easy on the '22 Speed Twin. Thanks for another good video.

[@richardjohnson3463]

I have a similar issue on my Triumph 900 Street Scrambler, thanks for posting this "fix" and for the discount code, just ordered!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You’re welcome Richard!

[@colindeans5972]

Well done TMF. I asked a forum the same question about the Street Triple. Some suggested leaving the slack as it was beneficial if you hit a rut or pothole, less jerk essentially. The feedback was mixed so I left it unchanged. It seemed a no brainer to me to make the mod.

[@returnedtotheearth1326]

I also have the Street Triple and find the throttle very smooth so don’t see the need for it. I checked the website TMF mentioned and the Streety isn’t listed as an option? So is that because the throttle body is different or they don’t think it’s worth doing? Anyway I wouldn’t change mine as it’s good as supplied for me.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yeah it's a matter of preference I guess - personally I way prefer the precision control I get when the "slop" is taken out...

[@EWAScotland]

Think I would do the same, good quick fix to an annoying problem 👍 I always throw a cover over the tank, one Allen key flipping onto the paintwork will ruin your day 😢

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes good tip - I should have done that! (you're not the first to mention either!)

[@ragerider6283]

Nice job & helpful little vid. I always take the slack out of the throttle whenever I get a new bike but more used to doing it with a cable. Good to see ride-by-wire can be pretty simple too.

[@lord.onk99]

Your videos are always very interesting and informative.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Thank you...

[@Lyingleyen]

I had the same problem on a 2013 Street Triple R - I just asked the tech at my local Triumph dealer and it was set up for me when I took delivery with no free-play.

[@josephwagg4084]

Culchethstyle - did you use these spacers on your Street Triple R? I find the throttle jerky on mine and would like to fix it

[@Lyingleyen]

@@josephwagg4084 To the best of my knowledge I noticed the problem before the first 600 mile service, mentioned it to the tech guy and they adjusted it during the service. Have a word with the service manager / tech guy at your local Triumph dealer.

[@jimharness106]

Andy, I have just purchase a 2016 Speed Triple and noticed the free play on the throttle immediately. I remember seeing your video on this issue so have just purchased some spacers. Once installed lets see if it addresses the issue. Thanks for the tip and the video.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

They’ll work Jim - trust me on this!

[@simontucci8170]

Thanks for the discount code mate. Been meaning to buy a set for my Monster 1200 for a while now.

[@brettcummings7834]

Just did my Thruxton R and I am very impressed.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Good fix isn’t it!

[@big500]

I did the same thing on my Ducati, using heat shrink tubing... cost= free as I had the tubing already

[@Supercruze]

I did this mod a couple years ago on my 16 TTR. Fantastic result.

[@keefer3335]

Ive had my 2020 Speed Twin for a few days now and absolutaly love it. Wouldnt say the snatching is awful but Ive just fitted some spacers. Mine mustve been cheap Chinese parts as they took some pushing to get on. Test ride tomorrow. Cheers.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congratulations!

[@plouf3522]

Thansk so much for this and the discount on ducatispacers. Took me literally 30mins to do the job and bike is just so much better !! Thanks a lot for the video and the channel, love your test rides ! keep it going !

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad to help and will do!

[@God-Knows-I-Dont]

Class, Just purchased a Multistrada V2ST, same issue, Thought it was the chain after coming from a shaft drive, and had resigned myself to live with it by holding the bar end and throttle to keep it steady, but I just checked and there is a fair bit of play in the throttle. Cant wait to try this one. Thanks.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

They are great little solutions to the problem.....

[@SeaMonkey137]

Just did this install with the kit from ducatispacers.com. Took five minutes after watching this video, and the MISSENDENSK code worked. Note: They're only giving you one set of spacers now, though. So be careful opening that clamshell package; it can send them flying around the garage. Definitely takes the slop out. Still worth the money even if you don't get a spare set anymore IMHO.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Told you they were good!

[@matthewroy5076]

Thanks for the video. I'm seriously thinking of picking up the Speedy and I am probably going to have this, the booster plug and the de-cat as my first accessories.

[@stepheneldridge6998]

Good vid TMF, there's a great 'free ' throttle mod that works brilliantly on my Tenere and other bikes. Basically on a lot of bikes the pull cable on the throttle sits 'on' the throttle body. By making a groove for the cable to sit in it is so much smoother...a disproportionately good result for a simple free mod! Cheers Steve

[@thelastcoyote1423]

Bought a 1050 Speed triple in April and had a bit of a moment on a mini roundabout the other day due to this exact same thing. Thanks very much for the video (even though uploaded a while ago I could look this up in the “flyer Encyclopaedia”). Will purchase these 👍.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Defo worth a try!

[@greenroly]

got on Ebay for just under £20, easy to fit and the difference on my Triumph thruxton 1200 R is amazing, definitely recommend

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes told you it was good!

[@gunton21]

Nice informative video, TMF, I've just bough the triumph T120 bonneville black, and loving it.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Congrats Peter - lovely bike!

[@oksatch]

Put these spacers in the throttle control of my SpeedTwin after watching this very informative video. It has made a tremendous difference, much smoother and more pleasurable to ride now. Thank you for the information and also the link with discount on the price 😁

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad it helped - told you they were good!

[@Jeez726]

Thanks TMF. Got me looking into my MT09 and can adjust the free play out with the cable turnbarrel.👍

[@creative-renaissance]

I had a jerky throttle on my T100 in the past and absolutely hated it. Now I am looking for a new bike, I discounted the Triumph's for this reason! but with your fix I may put Triumph back on the short list.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You should! Completely fixes it…

[@markhenry192]

I have the same slack on my Harley but it is meant to be that way as it controls the rear cylinder shut off and on thing (for when it gets too hot). Interesting to watch all the same. Thanks

[@phils2180]

Very interesting vid! I'm into my 2nd month of new Triumph Street Scrambler ownership and have noticed the problem you describe. This is my first bike with a "virtual throttle" as I call them as opposed to the positive cable connection on my other bikes. I've read about the plug in fuel booster device which is quite pricey and seems to get very mixed reviews but the spacer fix is certainly worth investigating first! 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I have both and can tell you the spacer makes much more difference than the booster plug!

[@Banditmanuk]

Good to know how to get rid of jerks. 👍Disappointed there was no white van though.

[@trevorbest]

The spacers got rid of the white van also

[@robzz9002]

I know you’re supposed to have 2-3mm of freeplay in the throttle to allow for accidental inputs when going over bumps/potholes etc, but that doesn’t make sense to me. When I’m on the road, if I’m going to hit a pothole, I’m already on the throttle, so I’ll have already taken up the freeplay. With that said, I tend to keep mine at the tighter end of the scale, allowing just a tiny bit of freeplay to prevent the revs from jumping up at full lock (cable throttle).

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I find the free play makes control far worse the majority of the time....

[@geneahart5607]

What a brilliant video! I have 2022 T100 with snatchy throttle, that bugs me quite a bit. May try thus at some point soon. Thank you!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

You'll thank me for it!

[@Warner1981]

Just fitted these to my Ducati Hypermotard 950 sp absolute transformation. Shame to need them on a known issue but hey a satisfying easy fix

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Agreed!

[@xjandgs]

Thanks for sharing this tip. A must do for sure. I am going to add to my Speed Twin.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well worth it - don't forget to use my link!

[@The333]

Vids like this are one of the reasons that I feel TMF is the best motovlog out there. Practical tips that are extremely useful and doable by us garage "mortals". One question on these spacers, TMF - I just bought my Honda CB1000R in June ( in part because of your great bike review on it) - The CB has this same annoying throttle play in it. On the one hand, I am happy to know it is intentional (not like a flaw or defect) - but I also don't like it for the same reasons you cited on your bikes. Will these spacers work on Hondas - do you know?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I’ve no idea I’m afraid - sorry!

[@tinks43]

Great stuff, Has been on the wish list for a while now 👍🏻

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I thoroughly recommend it....cheapest best mod I’ve done on the Speed twin and my Panigale....

[@thesheriff1300]

G,day, love the look and styling of the 1200 speed twin, what do you use to keep the black on the motor please.do you know of and decent luggage carrying gear for the Speed Twin... John in Australia ..

[@chrisfield2034]

Thank you! I’ve been looking at this mod for my Thruxton R, you made my mind up, now on order! BTW what make is your ratchet driver set? That flat based handle looks very good to use. Keep up the good work, really enjoy your material.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Cheers Chris - that ratchet was from Costco!

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

Thanks for the video, ordered some too with your handy discount code

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Excellent - it's a great fix....

[@paidburglar1384]

Ahh so that’s the problem haha, I recently did my mod 2 and the bike I was training on had this exact problem.

[@phcastilho]

Great video ! The website ducatispacer.com offer the kit for 5 different Triumph models but the T120 is not one of them. Do you know if any of the 5 they have fit the T120 ?

[@charlesw22]

Just fitted them to my speed twin and taken the bike out for a test ride (between November rainstorms). The jerkiness at slow speed was my only criticism of what is a wonderful bike. At times, when manoeuvring at slow speeds it was very tricky. At first I was sceptical that a couple of tiny pieces of plastic would make any difference, and when they arrived thought I had been ripped off. How wrong could I be? As TMF says, it really transforms the bike. Thanks for the recommendation, and the TMF discount!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Told you it was a top mod Charles!!

[@charlesw22]

TMF - thanks for the brilliant video. I have found the snatchy throttle on my speed twin a real pain and is the only negative I have on an otherwise brilliant bike. I was considering the 'fuel booster plug' which to quote the TEC bike parts website, 'This fuelling device interrupts the signal from the air temp sensor and modifies it to make the ECU add approx 4-6% more fuel during acceleration in open loop mode, it will not affect MPG as it has no effect in closed loop mode ie. cruising mode or steady running. The device has its own temp sensor and it modifies the signal to release the correct amount of fuel for the measured air temperature. Very easy to install with correct plugs ( PLUG AND PLAY ) no wire cutting required'. I will try your suggestion first, but do you or any of your subscribers have experience of fitting these?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes I also have the booster plug fitted on mine....didn’t help anywhere near as much as the spacer! Sometimes simple is best....

[@bobz1736]

$37 on their website plus postage and duty. Nice idea but ouch? Maybe I'll buy some, copy the design and sell them for a tenner...

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It is well wort every penny (cent) regardless of what they cost to manufacture!

[@GWMotley1]

Thanks. Just ordered a kit for my Street Scrambler.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I think you’ll find it a brilliant mod!

[@MarkSmith-io3qd]

My Tiger Explorer is the same, but can’t say it’s ever bothered me during my four years of ownership. Have you ever tried the ‘Triumph 12 minute tune up’? Basically start the bike from cold, don’t touch the throttle at all and let it run until the fan kicks in and then leave it running for twelve minutes. It’s been known to work in the Tiger Explorer community.

[@johnsumser9743]

The "snatchiest" parts on my Speed Twin are the front forks. Just at the moment the bike actually stops, there's about a 1/4 inch of movement down, then up. Feels like loose handlebars, but isn't.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Weird!

[@garya3056]

Good vid, Andy! BTW, my ex-mother-in-law was a bit snatchy.

[@torqueofthedevil8145]

You might need some bigger spacers to fix her

[@CorvusHyperion]

Just ordered for my Thruxton R 2019. The free play makes it difficult to open the throttle smoothly at slow speed. Looking forward to trying out this fix.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

It's an excellent mod....

[@Bass.Player]

I have had to this adjustment on every bike I have owned. (cable adjustment in my case)

[@Pillokun]

You need to have that play on a street bike, just like you need to have play on the clutch lever, there is play on the throttle so that you dont twist the throttle on a big bump for example :P If I am not remembering it wrong we are even taught in driving school when we take the license that there should be a bit of play. I too thought the play was making the ride a bit jerky but then after focusing on being really smooth at the start of the twist/stroke of the throttle for like a week I got super duper smooth and never had any issues since then.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I don’t need the free play personally! Makes this bike and my Panigale so much more pleasant to ride in slow moving traffic in particular!

[@Pillokun]

@@TheMissendenFlyer well yeah, everything is about personal taste but what will happen when it is inspection time? Personally I was really fed up with the long throttle actuation and wanted to install a quick/short throttle but as time went I was liking the long throttle throw as it actually gave me better throttle and precision feel compared to my 2005 636 and seeing how some of mine friends flew to the moon and back with a short throttle throw I even went back to a longer on the 636.

[@iankendrick1739]

Hi, great video..does this work on the 2014 speed triple?

[@andrewthomas6505]

That worked a treat mate, many thanks

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Glad it helped!

[@RorySeanWainer]

Note of caution. I’ve had Throttle Spacers on a few Triumphs before & thought they were great, so I ordered a set for my Thruxton R, then watched Andy’s video again. All looked ok when I installed them. However, on my test-ride the bike behaved strangely ... the revs were slow to drop and I couldn’t easily rev-match on down shifts. I pulled the throttle housing apart again & noticed that I had not pushed the spacers in far enough - they were ever so slightly rubbing on the throttle housing. No wonder the revs didn’t drop as expected! Easy fixed, but worth double-check as it only takes a few millimetres to get it wrong.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Yes care required - is a bit fiddly….

[@Toni62R]

It is a SHAME that you have to do those "repairs" on a bike which cost you 13000 Euro or more....

[@johnsumser9743]

As he said, almost all manufacturers build the slack into the throttle; it isn't poor quality but rather a conscious engineering decision. Why they do it, I have no idea.

[@filthymcnastyazz]

John Sumser same reason they fit tall first gears to sporty cars. Stopping the inexperience frightening themselves

[@craigcraigm4388]

@@kawasakizrx1164 its a fix for throttles with ride by wire ( no cables to adjust)

[@jordanblack2250]

You need to do maintenance on EVERY motorcycle

[@Richard-il3lv]

@@jordanblack2250 This isn’t maintenance, it’s a fix for a manufacturing flaw

[@racingrooster4642]

Excellent helpful video as usual .

[@louv3080]

I've got a Speed Twin and a 2018 Suzuki GSX-S1000 that has the old fashioned cable throttle and when I experimented there with removing most of the slack I'd get jerkiness going over bumps as the slack wasn't there to absorb the throttle blips caused by the bumps. So at first blush, tightening the slack on the Speed Twin would give it MORE jerkiness not less but first hand experience from TMF indicates otherwise and I can only assume that's because the electronics account for the slack on the Speed instead of the mechanics on the GSX.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I guess it must too - transformed the ride on my Speed Twin and Panigale for the MUCH better.....

[@spetersonmusic]

Outstanding. I'll be using that discount code! **Note, in the USA your discount code netted a $5 discount, more than 10%. So that's great!!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

W'hey - brilliant!!

[@p.santos6644]

🚦 Hello everyone. I was wondering... CRF250L...isn't a way to put the exhaust closer to the bike so the rear isn't so wide and more symmetric ? Maybe with a oval form exhaust ? I just think it makes the panniers look so far apart from the body. Thank you for sharing, love your videos. Cheers 👍👍

[@mattnicholas9842]

You say Philips.. probably not... Most Bikes use the Japanese JIS standard, similar but not identical to philips (and nothing like pozidrive). Most people complain that the Japanese screws are "made of cheese" are probably chewing them up through using the wrong screws. Get a couple of JIS screwdrivers. you'll feel the difference when using them.

[@PhilipBallGarry]

That's JIS not "JIZ" :-)

[@mattnicholas9842]

@@PhilipBallGarry JIS essential..... JIZ optional, although some people really really love their bikes. 😀

[@daveharriman2756]

Interesting.... on my new Speed Twin, I have no more than about 2mm free play, what symptoms did you get? I have 'hunting' for want of a better phrase at low speeds, I just ride around it, do these spacers cater for such a small amount of throttle play? because I would hate to have no play at all. thanks for your time mate!

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

The spacers remove all play - for your hunting issue you probably want the booster plug (an electronic fix which I also have fitted)

[@daveharriman2756]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Great, thanks for replying.... did you do a video on fitting the booster plug? cheers, Dave

[@LittleDaveGuitar]

The factory leave play in the throttle for a reason. Triumph were not happy when they found out people were fitting these.. The play is there to ensure the ecu gets correct closed throttle information. It's not worth risking your life messing with throttle sensors.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I dropped my Panigale once because of a jerky pull away at a junction - this mod has now made that so smooth I'd not drop it in the same scenario again...I think they have enhanced my safety....I love 'em

[@Shrekeo]

Please correct me if I'm wrong but I have yet to do this on my Panigale because as far as I can tell, it would only take up the slack from a completely closed throttle. If that's the case surely when riding along normally on part throttle there would be no difference at all?

[@t4ketsuru]

i know everyone is different and taught differently depending on where your from, but wouldn't having some free play on the throttle is ideal? Eg when breaking there would be times when you will still say engage 5% or more of the throttle.I mean manual bike yeah probably no problem but for automatics that extra % could save you. you never know what would happen in a emergency

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well I know it’s meant to be there but personally it doesn’t work for me - transforms the bike!

[@peted7295]

@@TheMissendenFlyer I believe the manufacturers have free play in there to mimic the feel of the old cable operated throttles.

[@sharpbends]

@@peted7295 Ride my wire throttles are snatchy without it, particularly in 'race' mode, did it on my Panigale and it works well :-)

[@returnedtotheearth1326]

Yes it should be there as you say. It all depends on how well it’s done. They are better now that on the first ride by wire bikes but you still get some better than others. My Street Triple is very smooth in all modes so I would never change it but if your bike is snatchy then it becomes a pain to ride and I would make the mod. On the website TMF mentions they don’t list the Street Triple as an option does that mean it’s a different throttle body? Don’t know.

[@charlesw22]

@@returnedtotheearth1326 Hi. Just checked their website and while the speed twin isn't mentioned on the opening page, there is a drop down menu to select the model which specifically lists the 2019 Speed Twin.

[@tedgerman511]

That WAS a lot of faffing about fitting them but it was worth it, big difference for sure 👍

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Actually it’s not as bad a faff as I made it look...

[@dsimon9s29]

Thank you for posting. The Speed Twin is one of the bikes I am considering as a "next" bike. So I will tag this video for future reference. :) Do you also have the Street Triple or is it the Speed Triple? Those two are also under consideration. Soooo many bikes out there. A high class problem.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

I have a Street Triple as well.....

[@loddude5706]

OK, but why do they sell you a multi thousand pound bike, that then needs 30 quid's worth of plastic 'falsies' to run well?

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Ask Triumph!

[@loddude5706]

Heh heh, true! Be interesting to know if their dealers are prepared to fit them to make a new bike sale, & if not, why? : )

[@mrswinkyuk]

Because it's a preference, not an engineering short-coming. Most people come from cable operated throttles and expect some play.

[@sv650nyc7]

You can take the slack out of cable operated throttles as well, but manuals ask for cable play of 2-4 millimeters. I assume that's to make sure the throttle valves are definitely closed when you let off the throttle. Once you get a feel how far to turn the throttle to open the valve, it shouldn't make a difference how much play there. I guess since TMF rides so many different bikes, he prefers to have zero freeplay, so he doesn't have to re-learn how to adjust his throttle position on every new bike.

[@DrummerboyUK1]

You shouldn't have to do this. The free play on TMF's Triumph was ridiculous. I had a Bandit 1250 with cables and tbh there was no where near that much play in the throttle.

[@madhatter7521]

I got older bikes,,,,is there not an adjustment on the throttle cable,,,most machines I have, have a spec and it's routine maintenance ,,,,

[@richardpearson4248]

Asked triumph if they would fit them in my speed twin before I picked it up from the shop they would not fit them as not being a triumph part said it would effect warranty

[@johnsumser9743]

Not at all surprising. I usually wait a year before doing any mod that can be considered a "performance part." Don't give them a reason for denying you a repair.

[@MyRandomLife247]

Your thumbnail looks like your squeezing out a good fart 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@piersmoore-ede8444]

I am going to invest in some of these bad boys, thanks TMF.

[@robertwbeams9929]

Slack is intentional, to compensate for the changing radius of the bowden cable when the steering is at full lock. Resolved on modern bikes by an electronic throttle. The price you pay for cheap and simple. Now await the quick fix to reduce leg heat soak on your Panegale ;-)

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

Well of course the Triumph Speed Twin is "ride by wire" and has an electronic throttle, as does my Panigale - neither of which I would describe as being particularly cheap/simple motorcycles - but yes I agree this was the case in the day of throttle's with cable controls....

[@911engineguy]

"Absolutely!"

[@ikbendusan]

i feel like i'm the only one who likes a little free play in their throttle

[@longjammeriii3323]

Me too 👍

[@ikbendusan]

hooray i'm not alone :D

[@michaeljkasnter]

Dušan Pešić you are

[@ikbendusan]

;-;

[@mijoizagas3747]

Well done sir!

[@michaeldonaghy4703]

Any idea what that top plastic housing is called or part number. Installed fine but the plastic nub had already been broken, probably from forcing on grip puppies :)

[@dustytriumph]

Does, or can this raise the at idle RPMs? Is a little dab of lithium grease recommended to slide the shims in place? Or on outside surface after slipping into position? Thanks very much for this install vid.

[@TheMissendenFlyer]

No it doesn’t raise the idle revs…

[@dustytriumph]

@@TheMissendenFlyer Thank you.