Can this $31 gaming keyboard dethrone the Wooting 60 HE? (MadLions Mad60/68 HE)

[@TrixSquid]

UPDATE: thanks to a nice commenter I am now aware that ALL versions of this keyboard can go down to 0.02 lift off distance after you update the firmware in the browser! Save your money people! Also, changing the polling rate is NOT possible as far as I am aware unless you own the R version of the keyboard ($70). I was able to click different polling rates in my software due to a visual bug that made my mad60 show up as a mad68 R. I thought I was changing the polling rate, but since my keyboard doesn’t support it I wasn’t doing anything. Also explains why it didn’t have any effect on my CPU. I have since unpaired the board from the software and re-paired it, it now shows up as a mad60 and the option is gone. This really sucks if you ask me! Also since making this video, new versions of the board have been added. There is now a no rbg version of the white one available as there wasn't one before, a 1000hz version of the white one has also been added along with a white version of the 68R configuration. I should have mentioned this in the video, this keyboard is fully hot-swappable, and supports gateron he switches aswell! Sound test at 9:04! Other timestamps in the description or in the chapters section! What other peripherals would you like to see me review in the future? Thanks for watching! ❤

[@behoon]

Hello, have you tried to change the switch to gateron? Even tho it's using gateron socket, they are not intended for gateron. Apparently there's a lot of RMA case because their pcb is breaking after using gateron switch, so they said if your board come with aiyan switch it can only use aiyan switch. Except one version that using gateron (the yellow keycap) they said you can use other gateron switch with that. I got this info from my retailer and my friend that asked their customer service in JD (chinese marketplace).

[@TrixSquid]

@ I put a few jades in (mostly for my movement and consumable keys) and they worked fine for the few hours I tested them. I did switch them back though I liked the stock switches enough and I prefer a uniform feel across my board.

[@behoon]

@@TrixSquid oh yeah, I found some people use gateron jade and it works fine. idk what type of gateron switch that chinese ppl use so the pcb is breaking, or maybe they're using basic or 1K variant. My friends already tested some switch on it too, like jade amethyst (works fine) and geon raptor (doesn't work). My unit still on my friend in CN, I can't wait for it to arrive here and test with my geon raw he.

[@TrixSquid]

@@behoon good luck!

[@piwan4780]

@@behoon I am using the gateron jade pros on mine and can confirm that they do work and sound amazing. I think any switch that's compatible with the wooting is compatible with this board.

[@kidfruitloops9121]

sad to see its your only review but excited for the future, this is perfect, its informative and not boring, and covers everything, keep it up, subbed

[@TrixSquid]

@@kidfruitloops9121 thank you!

[@vladbivol8153]

damn you bought a product with no reviews? Thats bold but glad its safe, might buy from there as well

[@TrixSquid]

@@vladbivol8153 Yeah, a friend of mine bought from the same seller. That’s why I kind of trusted it. Either way I know AliExpress is very good with refunds. As I have had issues with other sellers in the past. There is always the official website aswell!

[@chompyhunter123]

i just bought a fun60 and its new so 0 reviews. luckily ali express got a 90 day return policy if i dont like it

[@TypeHero]

Great review, thank you for creating it! I am also glad that your video gets so much interaction!

[@TrixSquid]

@@TypeHero thank you so much!

[@nijijan]

thank you so much, i've never seen a white version review and i had doubts about buying the white version but looking at this video i'll make sure to get that one, it looks amazing!

[@TrixSquid]

@@nijijan yeah it looks really good doesn’t it? I should have shown it on the video but the RGB really pops on this version aswell!

[@nijijan]

​@@TrixSquidi imagine so, in the other versions it doesn't stand out much, but in this one the rgb must be beautiful!!

[@TrixSquid]

@@nijijan yeah it is! Truly looks like an expensive keycaps set aswell

[@alexmaldonado2804]

Watching this even though i just got my wooting 60he. Crazy how cheap almost the same tech has gotten

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah, I wouldn’t stress it though. I loved my wooting for the time I had it. And I would definitely get one again. This is just a nice option for people on a budget

[@alexmaldonado2804]

@TrixSquid yeah, it's good it's available for people not willing to spend $250 on a keyboard

[@mustafafaisal8605]

woah the production quality for your first youtube video is crazy keep up the good work , on a side note can you review the gamakay tk75he or tk68he, they are also a budget hall effect keyboard with all the premium features like snap tap etc , there aren't many videos on it either so I think it'll do well on your channel

[@TrixSquid]

I will add it to the list man, and thank you so so much it means a lot! I tried my best. I know I missed quite a few things but I am working on it! ❤

[@GrqxEdits]

yo wsp trix this is your fist vid that i watched and im in love keep it up buddy

[@TrixSquid]

Thanks for watching!

[@fusir]

thank you bro, i m french and you answered my questions.

[@TrixSquid]

Happy to help!

[@yayafv]

Les français on est laaa

[@IgorthecreatorH]

@@yayafv YEESSSSS

[@YonkersDolphin]

ohh gonna have to pick one of these up! I couldnt justify spending the amount of money on a wooting keyboard lol so this is a cool option to have. Also the stabilizers sound pretty good!

[@TrixSquid]

@@YonkersDolphin Yeah they really surprised me! I was super super skeptical about this board at first!

[@sethsifuentes3520]

U can buy 4 of these for the price of 1 wooting lmfao

[@croxfps]

Cool Vid, just ordered one after watching this.

[@TrixSquid]

Thanks for watching! Enjoy the keyboard!

[@croxfps]

@ as a matter of fact, im going to order one for my gf when shes back from vacation lol

[@TrixSquid]

@ Nice man! She will love it!

[@43musti]

@@croxfps Hey! Could you let me know your thoughts when it arrives? That would be super helpful! Thanks a bunch!

[@croxfps]

@43musti ill let you know

[@piwan4780]

Just got my mad68he with the 8k polling rate and its great, only thing I'll mention is that the switches are made a little cheaply, but you would only notice that when trying to remove, which I did to swap them out for magnetic jade pros.

[@TrixSquid]

@@piwan4780 I took one of the switches out and mine honestly felt okay. They had less wobble than my original lekkers haha. But they do have a bunch of different switches so maybe yours are a bit different. Happy you like the board!

[@x1105]

The funny thing, the flagship switches is better than lekker wooting switches.

[@jameshong-e3d]

can you tune down your hz in the software ?

[@TrixSquid]

@@jameshong-e3d I can but my keyboard shows up as the wrong one so I’m not certain that it’s doing anything. Apparently according to another commenter you aren’t supposed to be able to unless you get the R version.

[@TrixSquid]

My keyboard shows up in the software as the R version. Which supposedly is able to change the polling rate. But since it isn’t the R version I don’t think it’s doing anything

[@zei6666]

finally an in depth review in english

[@TrixSquid]

I did my best, it’s my first video so I did forget a few things. I have tried to clear up as many things as possible in the comments. And pinned comment. Thanks for watching! ❤

[@Texas-1126]

This keyboard is definitely worth it imo i like the white version tho i dislkie it a bit bcs there's no letters on the white version lol so for me i prefer the first option on their website & just swap out keycaps & paint the casing, great review 👍

[@TrixSquid]

@@Texas-1126 there is letters on it! Just on the side of the keycaps!

[@Texas-1126]

@TrixSquid ouhh I didn't know LOL

[@TrixSquid]

@@Texas-1126 if you want a better look I show them on the thumbnail and when I show the design of the board. Maybe I should have taken the keycaps off to show separately. I will keep this in mind for the next review. Thanks!

[@Texas-1126]

@@TrixSquid is the white color version 8000hz polling rate on their website?

[@TrixSquid]

@ yeah!

[@angelincireasa9121]

I want to buy one, the 68HE version, what annoys me the most and what is very confusing is the trillions of different versions (different names, different names of switches, in the end you won't understand what you are getting in the package. One remark to your video is that from what I read (so, not 100% sure, even tho the person said that he contacted them directly) the site that you posted in your description it's not actually the original site of Madlions. my understanding is that their only site is the fgg one

[@Swap2Hot]

Well, I found my keyboard thanks bro!!!

[@TrixSquid]

No problem friend!

[@Swap2Hot]

@@TrixSquidis it compatible with console, and what’s the default actuation without the software??

[@TrixSquid]

@ default actuation is set to 1,50. And yes according to another commenter it is compatible with console. And apparently the software should work in the browser there aswell

[@Swap2Hot]

@ appreciate it man! Dropped a sub!

[@TrixSquid]

@@Swap2Hot thank you so much!

[@playstudio-tu8gp]

IF I BUY IT FROM ALIEXSPRES WOULD IT STILL BE GOOD ?BTW GREAT REVIEW I PROBABALY BUY IT

[@TrixSquid]

@playstudio-tu8gp yeah of course! Mine is from AliExpress!

[@playstudio-tu8gp]

@TrixSquid thanks yo😁😁

[@IgorthecreatorH]

thank you bro !!

[@KaimoSiru]

My mad 68 r arrives today can't wait for it

[@TrixSquid]

Nice bro! Hope you enjoy it! :D

[@yumerxcy6336]

can you send the link of where u bought please

[@TrixSquid]

@@yumerxcy6336Mine is in the description!

[@yumerxcy6336]

@@TrixSquid dyk if the irok na87 pro is good im looking at it and its way cheaper than nano or mad and offers good specs

[@TrixSquid]

@ not sure man I’m sorry! Haven’t heard of that board!

[@Chiongster101]

I already knew that HE keyboards don't cost that much to make, and it's great to see that there are now alternatives at great prices. Still, I prefer mechanicals for typing and the noise, but I'd probably go HE if I'm building a silent keyboard. Actuation flexibility is a good thing

[@TrixSquid]

@@Chiongster101 Yeah I much prefer the feel and sound of a nice mechanical keyboard aswell. But for gaming, Hall effect really is the way to go.

[@Chiongster101]

@@TrixSquid yeah agreed, instant keypress is important for gaming, for touch typing, that's a lot mispresses lol

[@TrixSquid]

@ yeah indeed

[@umi_yuri]

sick keyboard

[@Ne0nx860]

nice vid i just orderd one

[@TrixSquid]

Thank you so much 😀

[@remedyy7804]

The only thing I'm concerned about with this keyboard is the rapid trigger implementation, it's always been a problem with cheaper HE keyboards like the reddragon fizz, e-yooso, gammakay, etc. There's a lot of added latency during inputs, in the case of the fizz its like +70ms which is really a lot in the grand scheme of things. The problem with the gammakay is the presence of deadzones which is rather self-explanatory. So I'd like to know if the madcatz has any of these problems.

[@TrixSquid]

@@remedyy7804 I have around 50 hours of game time on the board now. I was using rapid trigger along with low actuation and low lift of distance the whole time. I personally did not feel any issues or differences from my wooting. Not saying there aren’t any differences but I did not notice any. I’ve performed just the same in gaming as I would have on my wooting or my apex pro. But I do realise this is all subjective as I don’t have a great rig to test all this latency and stuff. Thanks for asking I hope you find your answer!!

[@quatre_monet]

ordered mine on the 1st! cant wait for it to arrive hehehehe

[@TrixSquid]

@@quatre_monet Enjoy your keyboard! If you have any more questions be sure to let me know! Thank you so much for watching :D

[@quatre_monet]

@TrixSquid thanks brother just wondering if you can use the software on Firefox since Ion use chrome or edge I don’t mind ig just wondering

[@TrixSquid]

@ yeah of course! Runs on any browser!

[@Zaczr]

Thank you I just bought it I have the wooden 60 HE but I basically let my brother have it.

[@TrixSquid]

@@Zaczr Nice!

[@ibraafake]

in terms of actual performance, do we know if it’s the same as wooting?

[@TrixSquid]

I don’t have the setup to actually test the latency. But from someone who has owned a wooting 60he and currently mains a 80he. I don’t feel any difference between the boards.

[@moetxt.]

hi sorry for the so many questions but can you link where you got the keyboard, like the seller?

[@TrixSquid]

@@moetxt. i would, but the exact seller I used is no longer selling the keyboard. Hence why I have removed the link from my description.

[@moetxt.]

@TrixSquid ohh okay thanks

[@Iustis]

You can have 0.02 RT on the keyboard but you need to update the firmware from web driver

[@TrixSquid]

Thank you! This does work!

[@Houdaifa321]

What is RT

[@Iustis]

@Houdaifa321 rapid trigger

[@xKrypticFPS]

ordered one and now i wait :)

[@TrixSquid]

@@xKrypticFPS enjoy the keyboard!

[@hmn_cls1399]

Do you have any idea if this fits aftermarket wooting cases? Or can you compare screw wholes with a wooting board. I've been eyeing this keyboard for a while especially the 68 one. Kinda want it recased instead on an aluminum one for different sound profile. Thank you in advance! Great review. You definitely should do a guide on the software, especially on RT settings for new comers on HE keyboards.

[@TrixSquid]

@@hmn_cls1399 yeah it does! Exactly the same as a Wooting 60HE. I put mine in a tofu redux today. Fits like a glove. I don’t know where you are gonna find a case for the 68 version though. That might be tough.

[@TrixSquid]

@@hmn_cls1399 as for the guide, I will think about doing a detailed video about it!

[@hmn_cls1399]

@@TrixSquid Nice! Thanks for the info! Imma order now. Might get the 60 instead. And maybe recheck with the seller if he has anything for the 68.

[@moetxt.]

After a month of usage do u have any bad things?and hows the build quality

[@TrixSquid]

@@moetxt. still feels the same as when I first got it! Build quality on this board is nothing to write home about, but the same can be said for 200$+ “premium” boards. It holds up just fine!

[@moetxt.]

@TrixSquid oh okay, im about to buy it but pretty concerned for long term, not tryna buy a new one every year lol

[@TrixSquid]

@ it should hold up fine :) just don’t rage throw it across the room!

[@moetxt.]

@@TrixSquid bet, tysm

[@Twizpoint]

Hey, im having some issue sometimes that the keyboard type itself without pressing it. Is there any solution or is the deadzone settings?.

[@TrixSquid]

@@Twizpoint put the actuation from 0.1 to 0.2 you won’t feel the difference but the keyboard will haha. It’s because the switches are so light

[@Twizpoint]

@@TrixSquid Yeah, sometimes i change a few and calibarate the issue will go away but sometimes it happend again. So i guess the solution keep calibate the keys.

[@TrixSquid]

@ Nice, thanks for letting me know!

[@stanbaconstbh]

Ordered the white ultimate because of your review thanks so much! Just a question if you dont mind tho if youve played fortnite with this how close/comparable would you say it is the wooting's performance in fortnite.

[@TrixSquid]

I do not feel a difference between this and the wooting performance wise! It may be there but nothing you or I will ever be able to notice!

[@stanbaconstbh]

@@TrixSquid this reassured me, thanks!

[@winko1257]

Yo trix amazing video brother just wanna point out that i actually own the 68r version and its actually kinda different. I get your point every variant on this keyboard is actually good but i compare the sound and my switches (kunlun ones not the same as you have) are much creamier and sound better. Also I`ve looked at a lot of chinese and indian and every review and the 68r actually has less imput delay than all the others and also less imput delay that most flagship hall effect keyboards on the market. I just wanted to say this to clarify if someone still had doubts on which version to pick. Anyways amazing review and video brother keep the amazing work up!

[@TrixSquid]

Thanks for clarifying! Yeah I knew they were different but I meant that you wouldn’t really feel the minimal difference in latency. Maybe I should have worded it differently. Thanks for clearing this up!

[@angelosantillan5724]

I am planning to buy one right now which is the rgb cipo switch pro, although I am speculating if it would last longer from what I am expecting or is there any defects after longer usage?

[@TrixSquid]

@@angelosantillan5724 mine still works just as new!

[@jesicamaza2223]

Friend, did you buy it on the official website or somewhere else?

[@TrixSquid]

i bought mine on AliExpress, but the seller i got mine from is no longer online. I don't trust giving a link to a seller i personally did not buy from, that is why the link is no longer there. Thanks for watching!

[@jesicamaza2223]

@ Do you know if it can be bought on the official page? I'm from Argentina and it gives me distrust to ask elsewhere

[@nimmy404]

i ordered the nd63 pro heard a lot of great things about it, has the same features as these just less wooting looking lol

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah this one does look just like a wooting haha. Enjoy your board!

[@dannyS1k]

would the 1000hz no rgb be okay for a budget keyboard for valorant? idk whats the difference between 8000hz and 1000hz

[@Kapnifox]

What are yalls experience regarding durability? Any qc issues? Also whats different regarding to switch feel? Is it worth pay more for it?

[@TrixSquid]

I haven’t had any qc issues thus far. As with different switches I have only tried one of their options. Jades feel great in this board though! :)

[@saafiefnbr]

how long did it take you to get it. i live in the netherlands and i want to order what can i expect on delivery time?

[@TrixSquid]

@@saafiefnbr Got mine exactly 7 days after ordering. I’m in Belgium. :)

[@Awkward1337]

Could you show how your switch looks? :) is the bottom part of the switch green?

[@TrixSquid]

White stem and a greenish translucent bottom of the switch. This is their "pro" version of the switch. Feels similar to a lekker60 v1!

[@Awkward1337]

@@TrixSquid Thanks! Will you make more videos of other mice and keyboards? I saw this video and wanted to check out more but saw this was your first video :D subscribed and the bell is on

[@TrixSquid]

@@Awkward1337 Thank you so much! Yeah that is the plan, to review more stuff. I used to make gaming content when i was a little kid but all of those videos are private now haha. Thanks for the support! :D

[@linuxshawty]

wait so just to be clear you found NOTHING to complain about with this $30 hall effect keyboard?

[@TrixSquid]

@@linuxshawty After about 50 hours of use nothing really! Apart from my keyboard showing up as the wrong one in the software at first, causing me to think I could change the polling rate while it wasn’t doing anything. This was fixed by unpairing and repairing the board with the software. Apart from that I’ve had no issues! But keep in mind I’ve only used it for about 50 hours of gaming and next to no productivity work. So I don’t know how it will hold up for the rest.

[@Kahlimer0]

Definitely not hard to make a better keyboard than wooting, there are better cases, better (sounding) switches and smoother stabs all over the place, the "mother brand" probably owns the factory wooting order their cases from, what is more difficult is to make a better software and eventually a 2 to 4 years warranty ( and are fine with using ANSI layout ). But i agree if you want to try how it feel to use a HE keyboards whithout having to pay 175€ for a wooting, go for this one, turns out, HE is fine but personally i still do prefer using a mechanical one.

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah that sounds about right. The base wooting configuration is pretty hard to justify for the price. But nothing beats the software and customer support they offer. Thanks for watching friend!

[@flypinkpig8155]

Is the 0.02mm trigger point adjustment really useful for the vast majority of players, or does it just increase the cost for users?

[@TrixSquid]

Just increases the cost. As i mentioned in the video you and I won’t ever feel the difference. Side note the new firmware update made it so all versions of this board can do the 0.02 :)

[@Condred]

Think about how small a millimetre is. Now imagine a distance 50 times smaller than that. How big a difference do you think that's going to make?

[@FN_FFAB]

I heard from people it stopped working properly after a few weeks is that true?

[@TrixSquid]

Mine still works just fine!

[@FN_FFAB]

@@TrixSquid ok thanks

[@TehOnionGod]

Any keyboard can dethrone the Wooting in build quality, but nothing can beat the Wooting in software.

[@TrixSquid]

@@TehOnionGod sounds pretty accurate to me!

[@behoon]

oh buddy, wait until u see nuphy software

[@MasonMNK]

Yeah no shit

[@gizmozera]

So many people say this, but what is so special about the wooting software? I picked up one of these keyboards and the software seems decent. I don't understand what the wooting does better.

[@TehOnionGod]

@@gizmozera The Customization and Control that the software gives is better than anything else. This is only for HE Switches (hall-effect), if you want non HE keyboard there's many way better options.

[@Lightning-y9e]

i got the white one too its soo beautiful but i think the black one looks too

[@TrixSquid]

@@Lightning-y9e yeah the black one does also look clean!

[@Bali_gam]

nice review, but i have one question. how to set the 8000 hz ?? or this come auto and cant change it ?? i didnt found this option in the web firmware

[@Bali_gam]

i have the Limited edition 68 HE

[@elite6372]

@@Bali_gam if you click the performance tab then look right below where it shows the keyboard theres 3 options, click where it says performance and it shows you the polling rate options

[@TrixSquid]

@@elite6372 Thanks for answering for me, i was at work. But yeah it should be available in that tab. If you bought a version that supports it, it should be set to 8000hz out of the box aswell.

[@Bali_gam]

@@TrixSquid TY I WILL CHECK IT

[@Bali_gam]

I JUST CHECK AND DIDNT FIND WERE THIS OPTION😞

[@nazillohana7197]

now that you have discovered that your keyboard doesnt support the 8k hz. what version would you recommend now?

[@TrixSquid]

Any version that you feel like paying for. I don’t think the 8000hz is needed. Just get the switches you like, the rest is basically the same across the board.

[@817Godism]

also, would the tofu 60 fit the 68 version you think? dumb question, but unsure if theres a size difference

[@TrixSquid]

i honestly dont think it would. The 68 is ever so slightly larger and tofu 60 is already a nice snug fit for a 60% PCB. KBDfans does sell the same case in a 65% layout though (tofu65 redux) that should fit the 68 nicely.

[@MTS__]

What is the difference from the flagship and the cheaper RGB version? I mean the switches. I'm buying it for osu, so switches are extremely important

[@TrixSquid]

The polling rate, and the switches are different. But only feel wise. They won’t perform any differently. For OSU I might recommend the non flagship version. As these have a lighter required force to press I believe.

[@MTS__]

@TrixSquid ok, thank you, I'll buy the non flagship version then

[@TrixSquid]

@ no problem!

[@emanuelecorso2684]

I saw that they made a white version of the Mad 68 R, do you advice to get the 68he or the 68R?

[@TrixSquid]

Doesn’t really matter to be honest. If you value changing the polling rate get the R.

[@Oscar-Brunt]

not sure if you showed this in the video but are the pcb and the case screws the same as the wooting? cause I'm getting a 3d printer and want to 3d print a case.

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah, it’s literally the same case as the wooting haha. Pretty sure they come from the same factory

[@Oscar-Brunt]

@@TrixSquidthanks

[@kyrmaxi]

wonder what's the latency; looks like wooting copy but like 1 to 1 but kudos to the company for making a browser based app cause I wouldn't trust downloading a Chinese kb software lol

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah I totally get that hahaha! I think web based stuff is the future anyways. And for the latency I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if the latency is pretty “slow” to cut in on the cost maybe? Either way I felt zero difference to my apex pro tkl. I also used to own a wooting and that also felt the same. So it may be slower but I don’t think you would feel it.

[@TrixSquid]

Then again my version is the 8000hz, so maybe the 1000hz is slower than the wootings 1000hz. But from what I’ve heard it feels nice and responsive aswell.

[@Syvern.]

Kind of sinophobic, but ok...

[@TrixSquid]

@@Syvern. I get what you mean, but I also understand where the commenter is coming from. I don’t think he actually means Chinese, just the software from a cheaper lesser known brand

[@jajajaja6522]

Eyejoker did latency tests. It is all false marketing. The 8k polling madlions is slower than the 1k polling 60HE lol. Also the actuation point doesnt go below 0.15 even though you set it in the app to 0.02 or something.

[@3bo6tshyPersonal]

does the 8000hz polling rate actually make a difference ? is it worth the price compared to the 1000hz version?

[@TrixSquid]

@3bo6tshyPersonal I don’t think it’s worth it. It’s only faster on paper or in fancy spreadsheets. You will NOT feel the difference. Anyone saying otherwise must have inhuman senses or something 😉

[@3bo6tshyPersonal]

@@TrixSquid Thank you

[@TrixSquid]

@ no problem

[@1up.studio]

yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeah lmfao im sticking to my wooting. sounds 10x better and it feels like a cinder block with the weight of alumaze case

[@TrixSquid]

Yeah my current wooting sits in a tofu60 with a brass plate. I’ve modded this one aswell and it’s nice as a budget option. But there’s a reason my wooting lives on my desk and this one lives on the shelf. It’s a nice option, but if you have access to both there is no reason to not pick the wooting.

[@zayyaanali7841]

Can you tell me the difference of: - Black Magnetic Pro Switch 1KHz - Black (Pro) Magnetic Pro Switch 8KHz I plan to buy the 1KHz but don't see Pro in front of it. Is there a difference? Apart from the KHz, is there any other difference?

[@TrixSquid]

@@zayyaanali7841 the switches are different on paper. And may physically feel a little different. But you won’t notice a difference in performance. And same with the 8000hz. Just looks fancy on paper you won’t feel it. Just get the 1000hz and save your money!

[@zayyaanali7841]

Thanks for replying. I will order one today. Great review

[@TonyBentayga2-yz9sz]

Can you do more videos on AliExpress pc products that you recommend

[@TrixSquid]

@@TonyBentayga2-yz9sz Sure!

[@FreeLiquidity1]

@@TrixSquidtest out the kysona m617 mouse. It comes with grip tape and extra pair of feets/skates. Its super cheap while wireless and 8k polling rate. For 33$.

[@spritcs]

The only real difference between the switches are the sound!👍👍👍

[@TrixSquid]

@@spritcs Yeah that’s what I thought :)

[@KPG9999]

I ordered from the link in your description 4 days ago and it still hasnt shipped out yet, still says processing. I know you said yours shipped in 7 days, do you mean it took them 7 days to ship it or 7 days to arrive? If it took 7 days to arrive how long did it take them to ship it from the time you ordered?

[@captainruthless]

Just be patience. It's coming from China so it will take 2 weeks at most. Just keep checking for updates.

[@KPG9999]

@ i know that but typically i get a notification that the order has been shipped within a day or two. It hasnt even shipped at all yet.

[@TrixSquid]

It took mine 5 days to ship from China, 7 days to arrive at my door. :)

[@KPG9999]

@@TrixSquid seller cancelled my order after 7 days. I hope the refund is quick because I dont want to waste more time.

[@TrixSquid]

@ oh Damn that really really sucks! Refund should be nice and fast with AliExpress

[@fvyalexnn]

Does the keyboard have delay?

[@jalokan1402]

woah, but can we change the polling rate from 8k to 1k tho??

[@TrixSquid]

With the updated firmware you should be able to. According to some comments only the 68r can do this. But I’ve been able to change mine aswell so I don’t really know to be honest. My mad60 shows up in the software as a mad68 so maybe it’s having no effect.

[@jalokan1402]

@TrixSquid i think it's a bug, cause i asked couple of other people who uses the flagship version and they can't even change the polling rate with the latest update 1.4(cmiiw)

[@TrixSquid]

@@jalokan1402 yeah I’ve heard that aswell, must just be an issue and I guess it isn’t having an effect then. I guess the polling rate you buy is the polling rate you get unless you get the $70 r version?

[@TrixSquid]

@@jalokan1402 maybe that’s also why the 8000hz was having the same impact on my cpu as the 1000hz. I guess the 1000hz was never actually on

[@jalokan1402]

@@TrixSquid i think so, but thank you for answering my comment.. by any chance can i have ur twitter? wish u all the best and do more amazing contents🙌

[@dragon-ox6ql]

Hey Trix is the 1000hz good because it is the cheapest keybaord that i can afford

[@TrixSquid]

@@dragon-ox6ql yeah!

[@dragon-ox6ql]

Ty I also have a question how long did the madloin 60he last

[@TrixSquid]

@ it’s still working!

[@Ceezirr]

Is the apex pro mini better than the mad 60he?

[@bluegamigaming7319]

Getting the MAD68R. Would I be able to change the keycaps to maybe gmk’s?

[@TrixSquid]

@bluegamigaming7319 Yup! I’ve also swapped my keycaps out. And the board is in a different case now aswell :)

[@bluegamigaming7319]

@ oh I see that was unexpected that your board is in a different case already. Thank you for answering and I would love to see a video about that board in a new case!

[@Yabatoos]

can you please try a geon raptor switch on your board? some people say it's working and some say no..

[@TrixSquid]

@@Yabatoos I sadly don’t own these switches :(

[@Yabatoos]

@@TrixSquid wohooo i just received my mad68r

[@Moneyyzz]

magger68,melgeekmade 68 pro,keychron q1 he,atlantis pro,darmoshark kt68z,nuphyhalo65 he,and 007b akko which one should i pick bro

[@TrixSquid]

@@Moneyyzz if price isn’t really a problem I would get the melgeekmade 68. I own one myself and it is really really nice! You could get this one if you are on a tighter budget!

[@817Godism]

Would you think this membrane fit in a wooting case/metal wooting cases?

[@TrixSquid]

@@817Godism yes! I’ve put mine in a Tofu 60 redux made especially for wooting by KBDfans!

[@MILLXNEUM]

Im thinking of buying this but im scared of getting bullied for having a ripoff by my friends which have a wooting, i just dont want to spend a whole $200-$300 on a keyboard.

[@TrixSquid]

@@MILLXNEUM if you get bullied for the keyboard you have I would look into some new friends 👀

[@MILLXNEUM]

@@TrixSquidthats very true

[@znozhacks6892]

real bro if u get bullied for keyboard thats js trash friends (id still make fun a lil of my friend but hed know im just playing)

[@TrixSquid]

@ yeah exactly!

[@KaziSarur-h8o]

@trixsquid should i go for mad 68r or 68he ?

[@TrixSquid]

The r allows you to change the polling rate if that is important to you.

[@petracconi1x]

is there a massive difference between the 8000hz and the 1000hz keyboard? im from brazil and there is a quite big difference in price between the two versions thanks!

[@farmeunit]

Not from what I have seen.

[@petracconi1x]

@ Thanks!!

[@TrixSquid]

Thanks for answering! But indeed there is minimal difference nothing you or I would ever be able to feel! The 8000hz numbers just look fancy in a spreadsheet! At some point we reach a point of diminishing returns.

[@b4g4b3l]

i got the 68 white rgb for 46$ on aliexpress... think that 8k hz its just placebo... dont know where you found it for 31$, click bait ? 31E its not the same as 31$

[@TrixSquid]

If you skip to the part where I show the different versions, the $31 references the 1000hz no rgb version. The euro and the dollar are close enough. I got my white mad60 for a little under €45. I also agree that the 8000hz is almost not noticeable. Thanks for watching! :D

[@onkarkhade1919]

Bro what will be custom duty cost in india le me know please . And total cost

[@TrixSquid]

@@onkarkhade1919 I have no clue friend, I’m not from there!

[@twizzychriss]

do you think the iqunix ez60 pcb would fit in this if i made a hole for the usb? i dont like the iqunix ez60 case at all

[@TrixSquid]

It probably would, and yeah the case sucks I have one aswell. Almost all of my 60% boards (including this one) sit in a TOFU60 redux from KBDfans. I know it’s the cliche option but it’s the best option.

[@bbascobivouac]

does it support other switches like the Geon Raptors? I'm new to HE keyboards.

[@TrixSquid]

Yes! I should have mentioned this keyboard is hot swappable!

[@bbascobivouac]

@@TrixSquid Thanks, Good to know. Would like to try other HE switches.

[@TrixSquid]

@@bbascobivouac good luck! Hope you find a nice switch!

[@jalokan1402]

​@@bbascobivouachi there, have u tried the geon raptor on it? can it be used on madlions board?

[@bbascobivouac]

@@jalokan1402 I'm still waiting for the keyboard to arrive. I've seen a reddit post it says other Gateron swtiches are compatible. I don't really know because there are so many variations of this keyboard.

[@er1k08]

is it worth getting the 8khz version over the 1khz version for 15$ more?

[@TrixSquid]

@er1k08 In my opinion it isn’t!

[@mirDaaa]

hi, so I can get any option and it will be 0.02 lift? also, do you think this is a better option that logitech g413 SE TKL, i am unsatisfied with it and i wanna change it

[@TrixSquid]

@@mirDaaa yeah that’s possible. And i do think this is a nice option. A nice step into Hall effect boards!

[@stanbaconstbh]

A bit of a stupid question but excuse me I am not very good with keyboards, if I replace the switches on the board with for example gateron he switches will I still have the options for actuation points and rapid trigger etc and will they function normally

[@TrixSquid]

Yes! Those are dependent on the PCB of the board :)

[@TrixSquid]

Just make sure to actually put Hall effect switches in the board haha

[@stanbaconstbh]

@@TrixSquid oh thats good to know thanks!

[@mcpenaman]

Does the rapid trigger & SOCD work good in fps games?

[@TrixSquid]

@@mcpenaman yeah!

[@Wyn3e]

SOCD doesn’t work on CS2 anymore once it detects its inputs it will kick you out of the game until you turn it off so just letting you know for that

[@moetxt.]

can you feel the 1000hz and 8000hz apart?

[@TrixSquid]

@@moetxt. nope!

[@moetxt.]

@TrixSquid thanks man love ur vids i just found out about you 2 hours ago and already finished watching ur vids and liked them so much, pls continue ❤️

[@Xisorgxi]

Does it update your keyboard when you change the settings and save them even of you switch to a console?

[@TrixSquid]

Not sure about that, but I think it would!

[@Xisorgxi]

@ okey thxxx

[@rKhexo]

Do you think this keyboard is any better than a Apex Pro Mini?

[@TrixSquid]

@@rKhexo performance wise it feels about the same as my apex pro. when it comes to build quality and overall feel I like this better!

[@jaelonvilla3931]

If you change the switches will that mess with the 8000hz polling rate and 0.02rt

[@TrixSquid]

@@jaelonvilla3931 no it won’t, that’s all linked to the pcb! As long as you use a magnetic switch everything will be fine!

[@bositirana1239]

A Korean guy tested this keyboard has little bit of dead zone like reaven 68 maybe do you think that will matter. A lot , to its my first time trying to get magnetic keyboard And I'm fine using 1mm to 1.5 mm actuation point at the beginning it just the dead zone problem that makes me not buy it yet

[@TrixSquid]

@@bositirana1239 I haven’t felt anything! Maybe it’s there I dong know but I’ve been loving the keyboard so far! I have about 50 hours of gametime so far without many issues!

[@andreacasula-n5f]

hi guys when i start my pc with the keyboard connected It doesnt turn on,i have to disconnect and then reconnect everytime anyone knows why?

[@TrixSquid]

@@andreacasula-n5f no idea, I will look into it and let you know if I find something out.

[@AshCasssula]

​@@TrixSquidok, this is still me i have White 1000hz rgb model

[@AceyBlox]

work on console?

[@TrixSquid]

@AceyBlox yes!

[@VincentN0ne1]

Apparently ali express dont ship to canada at least in Calgary anyway is there any other way to get it cuz from the official website its asking for 40 shipping fee thats literally the price of the keyboard itself

[@TrixSquid]

@@VincentN0ne1 Oh damn really? That sucks. Maybe check if maxgaming or mechkeys have it? Both are trusted sellers that I buy from often!

[@yimm8699]

i thought this keyboard had socd thats why i bought it in the first place. but the software doesnt show socd and looks exactly like the video when he goes to the advanced key tab. why is that?

[@TrixSquid]

You have to update to the new 1.4 version for SOCD!

[@steylzwrld140]

ive heard that they added socd but i can't find it on the site

[@TrixSquid]

@steylzwrld140 update the software, after that it’s in the advanced tab!

[@wwgwwsntsos]

did you feel the difference between 8000hz and 1000hz on the keyboard?? i was thinking about that,because its 15$ difference for this keyboard

[@TrixSquid]

If that’s the only thing keeping you from buying it I would just buy the 1000hz! 8000hz is just a gimmick. Yes it has a faster response time but you won’t ever feel it. 1000hz is the way to go!

[@TrixSquid]

On paper the 8000hz is faster. But you won’t feel the difference

[@Khino727]

Not worth they are practically the same For reference:kzbin.info/www/bejne/aGqlfa2ZqrOnpcUsi=oXzW4rTjdPrEVTA_&t=659 If you want an actual 8000hz board go for ace60 or the ace68 (I suggest Ace68 more because of 128K scan rate (8 KEYS x 16kHz)and same pricing so ace68 better a bit but if you play only fps pick what you want)

[@TrixSquid]

@ thanks for the suggestion!

[@sparky_ox]

can you do a review on zuoya 65he too

[@TrixSquid]

I will add it to the list!

[@414devin]

If your on console can you still change the actuation and everything?

[@TrixSquid]

@@414devin if you do so on a computer and then use it on a console, the settings wil save to the board

[@414devin]

@@TrixSquidThank you, did you notice and delay because a lot of people say there is delay

[@TrixSquid]

@ no I didn’t notice anything. The delay people are talking about is about a few milliseconds. Nothing noticeable, just looks “bad” in a spreadsheet. The board still have better latency than any normal mechanical keyboard. And is on the better side for budget Hall effect boards.

[@10CentWenty]

Does this keyboard have analog switches, like having 50% actuation in stuff like racing games, i canceled my order because someone else said no

[@TrixSquid]

@@10CentWenty You can fully customise the actuation and set a different action for different actuations as well with their dynamic keystroke option. Let’s say you set it so walk when slightly pressing down the switch and run when fully pressing down that is possible. As for true analog switches, that mimic analog sticks this board does not have those.

[@Hyperionxzs]

whats the difference between the Madlions Mad60 HE and Madlions Mad60 HE ultimate. the listing shows the same specs, only difference being the name and price. also having higher polling rate on my mouse causes games like fortnite to stutter and the only fix being lowering the polling rate. since this keyboard doesnt have the option to change polling rate i just want to make sure if it causes and stuttering issues while playing fortnite

[@TrixSquid]

I believe its the polling rate and switches, but you wont feel a difference.

[@Hyperionxzs]

@@TrixSquid the switches wont affect latency right?

[@Goodied]

What is the difference between the 60HE Flagship White and the 60 White RGB?

[@TrixSquid]

I believe it’s the polling rate, and the keycaps are top printed instead of side printed if I’m not mistaken. And “different” switches. The switches will have the same performance just different feel and sound probably.

[@whnamyl]

should axial alignment be turned on at all times or should i turn it off after im done calibrating once

[@TrixSquid]

It should auto turn off after calibration!

[@ZaldivarBuilds]

Are you able to switch cases like the wooting to use a reflux case?

[@TrixSquid]

Yes! That’s my plan with this board

[@Gooseman1206]

What type of switches did you get?

[@TrixSquid]

This one comes with their “pro” switches

[@Gooseman1206]

@ thanks

[@Trav11s_]

Can you do mice? Im looking for a good gaming mouse for Fortnite

[@TrixSquid]

Sure, my safest recommendation is the Razer Viper v3 pro (my main mouse aswell) it’s just the safest shape I can recommend. But it is very pricy. I also love the pulsar x2h mini for a more claw grip focused shape. When it comes to a budget mouse I recommend things like the VXE mad r or hitscan hyperlight! I might review that last one soon as I am currently testing it.

[@qurat9788]

hey just wondering does the keyboard have socd features?

[@x1105]

Yep, they do.

[@TrixSquid]

Thanks for answering! I was asleep haha. But yes as you mentioned they do